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Halo 2 Retail Date Broken in Midwest

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the bungies-gonna-be-ticked dept.

XBox (Games) 394

Thanks to c0nrad, who alerted us to a Gamespot article stating that Halo 2's launch date has been broken by a Midwestern store. From the article: "Several reports on the Gaming Age forums--which included photos of the limited edition of the game--said that several individual Meijer stores, a self-described grocery and general merchandise retailer that operates in Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, and Kentucky, were selling the game early. However, calls made by GameSpot to several Meijer outlets made it sound like the franchise was sticking to the deadline." The reader continues: "Despite that, Ebay auctions have already gone up, with one having already reached $265!"

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Violation (0, Redundant)

metlin (258108) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735634)

Wouldn't this be a violation of the terms?

I wonder how the makers of Halo 2 would react to something like this -- may make the store lose the dealership, if it had one.

Re:Violation (2, Insightful)

mfh (56) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735748)

Wouldn't this be a violation of the terms?
Maybe so, but it shouldn't be.

A covenant without a sword is but words among men. The problem with retail dates in the video game industry is that of enforcement. Sure the publishers, distrobution companies could sue the retail stores, but that would result in a bitter fight, and a lot of animosity. Stores compete with eachother locally to strenghthen their customer base, and one way that keeps coming up is this breaking of release dates as a method of getting customers to flock to a store in order to buy a copy of the latest game early.

Policy should be to just put the games on the shelf when they arrive in the stores, because timed releases are just foolish on a number of levels. If copies are just collecting dust waiting for a retail date, the store is losing money and the customers are losing patience. Some stores will follow retail dates and others will ignore them, at whatever the cost may be.

If video game companies just don't apply retail dates, stores can bid with the games companies to get early shipments at a slightly higher price, and the customer wins in the end because they can buy a copy earlier for a little more money. If they hold off and wait, they should get a discount on the games in proportion to the delay. Yes, there is an opportunity for some capitolist exploits if retail dates are a thing of the past, but supply and demand should not be controlled by anyone, IMHO, and supply and demand will still apply to a release model that does not support retail dates or try to enforce them.

Re:Violation (3, Interesting)

phorm (591458) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735752)

Most likely, and probably there will be consequences for the store. What scores me though, is that if sufficient hype is generated and/or enough keeners actually bought the early release for such heavily inflated prices, we might start seeing a trend. If game manufacturers or stores get the idea that they can sell pre-releases at 3x-4x the street value, we'll probably see them trying this as part of business in the future.

HL2 is great and all, but don't feed the sharks guys!

Re:Violation (2, Informative)

dykofone (787059) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735884)

Good point. They could start following the model the motion picture companies have been using for a while: release the movie on VHS/DVD initially at a ridiculous price, usually from $100 to $200. Generally it's too pricey for the average consumer, but Blockbuster will buy multiple copies at the price expecting to make it back up in the large volume of rentals. Effectively, it takes the large demand for a product and forces the consumer to rent it if they want to see it, then buy it later.

I remember the $150 version of the Matrix DVD being sold at Amazon a couple of months before the "normal priced" edition, and people spending that much just to have the movie early. Marketing at its best.

Re:Violation (0, Troll)

DarkMantle (784415) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735777)

How do you think Microsoft is gonna respond? With a court case of course.

BTW: Bungie is a subsidiary of Microsoft now, and even if my information on that is incorrect, Microsoft is still the "Publisher" because it's for their console.

Re:Violation (2, Insightful)

milkman_matt (593465) | more than 9 years ago | (#10736024)

How do you think Microsoft is gonna respond? With a court case of course.

Actually, back in the day I worked at blockbuster video and we were bound to release dates too. One day a couple movies were put on the shelves like 2 days early and corporate freaked. Turns out what the movie industry does (or did) was, IMO, far more sinister than a lawsuit. If the studios found that we put out one of their movies early they postponed their shipments by 90 days for a period of time (the period, i forget) but can you imagine a store (or franchise) being denied shipments of games for 90 days? Gives everyone else a bit of a competitive edge and completely screws the people who screwed up.. I think this is far more effective, and a better deturant than a lawsuit.

Personally my favorite part is -- That shows that not everybody solves everything in a court, and I love it.

-matt

Re:Violation (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735780)

The very first post is marked redundant?!

lol...! crazy mods....

Re:Violation (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735860)

This is why the "Redundant" moderation should be eliminated. It's overused. 95% of the time a Redudant mod is used, it shouldn't have been.

Oh, and get rid of the Overrated and Underrated moderations, as the only reason to use those is to eliminate the purpose for meta-moderation, as they cannot be meta-modded. They have become even more over-used then the Redundant mod.

Re:Violation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10736032)

So the "Redundant" mod is redundant?

Good show old chap!

Re:Violation (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735847)

It's the first fucking post and on topic.

How the FUCK is it redundant? Bloody mods.

FUCK YOU.

$265? (5, Insightful)

BlueCodeWarrior (638065) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735647)

Why would anyone pay $265 for Halo 2? 1. It's on the Internet if you want it now. 2. If you're that much of a Halo fanatic, you've got Halo 2 preordered. Which means you're garunteed a copy in 4 days at 1/5th of that price. Is there something I'm missing here?

Re:$265? (5, Insightful)

retrev (367302) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735694)

Collectors might want this "special" copy. There are people with too much money and too little sense.

Re:$265? (2, Insightful)

grub (11606) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735762)


Not sure what a pre-sell copy would command on the open market. I mean, they can't go to eBay and say "This was sold 4 days early! Trust me!" If they wanted it that bad, grab it on P2P and buy it when it comes out. I've had it for a while, not bad but I stopped after maybe an hour and it hasn't touched my xbox since.

I think that's why the companies are so strict on release dates: poor reviews based on early releases could kill the hype

Re:$265? (1)

JPriest (547211) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735808)

Yes but by the time the auction ends and they ship it, you would get it maybe 1 day early.

Re:$265? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735712)

Your missing 2 things
1. The copy that is available on the internet cannot play online.
2. People are morons.

Hope that helps

Re:$265? (-1, Flamebait)

timts (766509) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735837)

who really wants to play online FPS with consoel any way? the aiming sucks, display resolution sucks, actually halo2 sucks. it makes people feel dizzy and people who played it said it's not as good as halo.

Re:$265? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735942)

yeah, thanks for stopping by.

Re:$265? (4, Funny)

UnrefinedLayman (185512) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735929)

1. The copy that is available on the internet cannot play online.

Gee, I sure wish *I* could be one of the three other people that's able to play online.

Re:$265? (1)

mowler2 (301294) | more than 9 years ago | (#10736030)

1) You can probably not play online until the official retail date even with the retail version. So there is ABSOLUTELY no reason at all to by the game for 270 USD instead of downloading a copy from www.piratebay.org, and then purchase the retail version when it is officially available.

2) You are right on this one oth. :)

Re:$265? (1)

neema (170845) | more than 9 years ago | (#10736055)

Playing online must be really fun with those two other douschebags that paid over 200 for a videogame that costs 50.

Re:$265? (2, Funny)

Arcturax (454188) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735714)

No you aren't missing anything, but whoever is paying $265 is certainly missing something.

Re:$265? (4, Funny)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735727)

Obviously there's a benefit to buying a copy on Ebay (auction closing in another seven days, plus 7-10 days for transaction and delivery). I mean, why wait four whole days when you could wait two weeks?

Re:$265? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735955)

so what you do is put a copy up for sale on ebay, put the shipping date sometime after halo2 actually ships. Kids with rich parents credit cards see halo2, miss the shipping date, and heavily over pay you for a copy that you will go out and buy to send to them when halo comes out.

look at it this way, they are paying you 200$ to buy a copy for them.

People are stupid (4, Insightful)

Aash (130966) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735736)

Yeah, there is something you're missing: the fact that most people are idiots. Remember when the PS2 came out, and was sold out everywhere? And it was selling for triple or quadruple what it was worth on eBay? And this was despite the fact that the PS2 didn't have a single decent launch game. Some people just have to have the latest thing now now NOW, even when it flies in the face of logic.

So yeah, I'm not surprised that people are paying ridiculous amounts just to have it a few days early. People can be really stupid sometimes.

Re:People are stupid (4, Informative)

DaHat (247651) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735887)

selling for triple or quadruple what it was worth on eBay

I take it you've never taken a basic economics course. If a foo sells for price x in the store and plenty of people buy it, it is worth it. However should the same foo be sold on eBay for more than x, say 10*x and someone is willing to pay that much... is the foo worth x or 10*x? the answer... is 10*x. Why? Because if someone is willing to pay a price, it is worth it to them.

Even today, PS2's and Xboxes cost a given amount which is far lower than in pass, however they are still not worth that amount to me, so, I do not buy them.

Ultimately, worth has nothing to do with what price a retailer puts on a product, it is what both parties are willing to buy for and sell for.

Re:People are stupid (4, Funny)

dcocos (128532) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735920)

Yeah, there is something you're missing: the fact that most people are idiots

Yes and by most you mean 59,459,765 (in the US at least)

Re:$265? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735740)

People who don't have to earn their money at $20/hr or less. There are far too many of them in this country.

Re:$265? (2, Funny)

zoobaby (583075) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735751)

Kind of funny, because even with overnight shipping, they might not get the game until Monday. To garuntee a Saturday delivery, I bet that will add even more cost, close to $50 or more just for shipping.

Can't wait to hear about Halo2 buyers remorse!

Re:$265? (0, Flamebait)

falser (11170) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735768)

What's special about the copies on eBay is that they are (gasp!) illegal. Which makes them rare and desirable to brain-dead eBay-ers. It doesn't matter that they won't even be recieved until after Halo 2 ships anyway. At least they'll have a copy that was illegally released.

Re:$265? (1)

Diomedes Tydeus (826148) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735821)

The other strong possibility is that the $265 bid isn't serious. I've seen a lot of bid retractions and non-paying bidders in my time on e-bay, especially when I price gets as crazy as that. Just my experience however. -Diomedes

Re:$265? (1)

Jakhel (808204) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735923)

Because halo fanboys are notoriously delusional. I mean, they think Halo 2 will be better than Half Life 2 for gods sakes! How many sane people do you know who would say something that crazy??

Re:$265? (1)

shawn(at)fsu (447153) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735937)

No one is paying 265 for Halo2, after reading your post and realizing that it made a lot of sence I decided to look to see if anyone bid on it, the problem is there is no auction for just Halo 2 all the one's in the 150+ range are bundles of Halo 2 and Xbox. I think the story submitter was just embellishing a bit.

As always I could be wrong

In other news... (-1, Troll)

SnprBoB86 (576143) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735648)

SnprBoB86's post was released to the /.ing public early (or at least "first")

Hurry! (1)

kngthdn (820601) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735652)

That one is gone, but there are still plenty [ebay.com] left...

dont kid yourself (4, Interesting)

spacerodent (790183) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735655)

most these ebay "sales" wont ever pay up. They bid on several of the games and then will pay for the lowest one they won, if at all. A lot of the people bidding are deliberatly waisting the sellers time "to make it fair" so no one gets the game early. Yes I know it's a jackass thing to do but thats what at least one guy said he was doing.

Um, who cares? (5, Insightful)

EvilMagnus (32878) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735659)

The game has already gone gold. MS and Bungie will still get money from the sales. Some rubes on eBay will be out some more $$$ just for bragging rights. All that will happen is that some PR prick will feel as though their spectacular launch day has been violated.

But tomorrow, the sun will still rise and Halo 2 will remain just a game.

The bees, on the other hand... the bees will soon control the world.

No x-box for you (1)

mobiux (118006) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735666)

I am guessing that Meijer stores will no longer be selling x-box related materials.

Re:No x-box for you (1)

MrMetlHed (518539) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735720)

Meijer is fairly large (each store is a Wal-Mart combined with a sizeable grocery store, and they're all over Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio at least), so I doubt that'll happen.

Re:No x-box for you (1)

metlin (258108) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735750)

Yes, but I'm quite certain that Microsoft is larger.

And has more lawyers.

They may just sidestep it, but that may encourage other stores to do something similar. So, it's quite likely that they'd deal with quite harshly.

But what do I know, the only Halo I know of is the one around the moon.

Re:No x-box for you (1)

rhsanborn (773855) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735856)

Who cares how much larger MS is, the point is, MS doesn't want to lose the business. Meijer's have lots of parents running around inside them getting Xmas/Bday presents for their kids, MS wants to have their product there. In stead, MS should start distributing their product with a stipulation that if the release date is not adhered to, they will fine that company. Its something I'd try at the very least.

Re:No x-box for you (1)

metlin (258108) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735879)

Or...

Maybe it's a test of a new marketing, suggested by MS.

You never know. Just hype up the game beforehand so that idiots flock to get it first and the companies make a killing.

Re:No x-box for you (2, Informative)

Jane_the_Great (778338) | more than 9 years ago | (#10736023)

Stores break release dates quite often and aren't sued over it. There is no way that MS is going to bring a lawsuit over this. They'll raise a stink about it behind closed doors and express their anger over the incident but it's not going to court.

Please, if you don't know a thing about the video game industry perhaps you should not be making definitive statements that you're sure MS is going to sue over this. This is not ground-breaking news nor is it unusual for some store to break a release date. I've gotten quite a few games before the release date simply because some store is trying to get a leg up on the competition.

Re:Meijers != Walmart (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735874)

Meijer's is like a walmart.... no wait that's wrong. Meijer's is like a walmart without the po-dunk. I moved 9 months ago from Ann Arbor, MI to Boston and the one thing I miss about Michigan is the Meijers. One of the best grocery stores I've seen (and not as freaking expensive as Whole Foods).

Re:No x-box for you (2, Insightful)

blueZhift (652272) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735770)

Well actually, Meijer is a fairly big chain in these parts, so they'll probably just get a slap on the wrist, if that. This assumes that this wasn't some prearranged test marketing scheme.

LAUGH! (4, Informative)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735963)

No x-box for you -- I am guessing that Meijer stores will no longer be selling x-box related materials.

Meijer, for those unfamiliar is a BIG BOX store chain which probably moves a significant portion of video games.

The chain started, ages ago in the Holland/Grand Rapids area as Meijer Thrifty Acres, with a dutchboy in wooden shoes and pageboy haircut nicknamed Thrifty, as the mascot. It's like pairing Safeway and Target stores, food and general merchandise.

When they built one of these in my former home town of Midland, MI, it nearly killed all the other grocery stores in the city.

Don't kid yourself that Meijer would suffer some injuction. They're simply so big the left hand and right hand don't quite reach each other.

Off to eBay (4, Funny)

JUSTONEMORELATTE (584508) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735671)

/me creating a new auction for Halo ][ on eBay.

(please note that the auction ends on November 10)

--

Re:Off to eBay (1)

2MuchC0ffeeMan (201987) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735906)

Careful, make sure you say that you get the CD with the box on this one, unlike those 'ps2' boxes for sale.

Ebay? (5, Funny)

sdo1 (213835) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735673)

Ebay auctions have already gone up, with one having already reached $265!

Repeat after me. "It's just a game".

Sheesh

-S

Re:Ebay? (1)

nmb3000 (741169) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735839)

"It's just a game".

That signature, -S, looks somewhat familiar [bungie.net] . If you're who I think you are how could you ever say that? Traitor!

:)

Re:Ebay? (1)

sdo1 (213835) | more than 9 years ago | (#10736054)

Actually, I've had my .sig for a very long time. I didn't copy it from anywhere (i.e., I made it up myself, though it seems a fairly obvious statement so it's certainly possible that others had it before me, though I'm not aware of any). Since I've started using it on /., I've seen it showing up in various places. It's kind of cool to see it quoted along with quotes from great authors.

For those with sigs shut off, here's what it says...

"What parts of "shall make no law", "shall not be infringed", and "shall not be violated" don't you understand?"

-S

Re:Ebay? (1)

masterQba (699425) | more than 9 years ago | (#10736012)

and slashdot is just a website. sheesh

$265 on ebay?! (1)

outernet2 (810042) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735678)

that's ridiculous. if you're that itching to play the game, and don't care about violating all sorts of copyright laws, just download the french version online. i've already beaten halo 2 (french edition, ha!) on an "acquaintence's" console.

Pirates (4, Interesting)

alaeth (78655) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735684)

wow, some people really can't wait. 260 bucks for a couple days early release? Probably not when you factor in shipping time/auction closure/ et all.

Re:Pirates (1)

justforaday (560408) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735719)

same thing i was thinking...how many of these people buying it on ebay are actually gonna have it in their hands before the release date?

ebay clicky (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735695)

Re:ebay clicky (1)

herting (542478) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735872)

my favourite of the auctions is this one [ebay.com] . No buy it now feature and the auction won't end until an hour after it is available on the East coast. Way to make yourself irrelevant!

well... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735699)


... I have a leaked copy. It's OK, "more of the same" IMHO. Played about 30 minutes and got bored. The storyline is pretty good. It's no Thief 3, thats for sure. :)

Halo Outlaws (5, Interesting)

slumpy (304072) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735704)

At the EBgames I work at we have around 10 or so big boxes with Halo 2 and the strategy guides.....so it's no surprise people are selling it early. It's tempting as hell to take one home.

Each of the shrink-wrapped game cases has a sticker....under the shrink-wrap, that says "DO NOT SELL UNTIL 11/9/04." I've never seen a game this hyped or this heavily protected. Hope you all pre-ordered.

Re:Halo Outlaws (1)

rdewalt (13105) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735994)

Sounds like standard "Street Date" shipping to me. Used to work retail electronics. Wasn't uncommon to have half a dozen boxes with "DO NOT SELL UNTIL $Date" on the shelf. (Hell, I had "Finding Nemo" DVD's sitting on the stockroom shelf while the movie was just hitting the second run theater.)

But good to know that there's not going to be a shortage. This game is almost as heavily anticipated as Doom 3 or even Half Life 2.

Who am I joking. There will be a shortage.

Re:Halo Outlaws (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10736036)

Each of the shrink-wrapped game cases has a sticker....under the shrink-wrap, that says "DO NOT SELL UNTIL 11/9/04."

That explains it then. We're way past 11 September 2004.

Oh my! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735716)

Halo 2 has been spotted! I'm peeing my panties! This is almost as good as the Cabbage Patch kids hype.

Why discourage sales? (5, Interesting)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735732)

Why not let stores sell it when they have it? It kind of makes software industry whines about piracy losses ring hollow when the product is sitting there in the stores and the software company is prohibiting stores from selling it. There is also the message of "want to buy it? Forget about it: we're sitting on the boxes for now. You'll have to scan Kazaa for a cracked copy."

Re:Why discourage sales? (1)

arose (644256) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735784)

Ain't marketing grand?

Re:Why discourage sales? (1)

MankyD (567984) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735795)

Why not let stores sell it when they have it?
My guess is that its so the game has a chance to be distributed to all retailers before they're allowed to start selling. It would be an unfair advantage to allow Meijer's to start selling if they had, say, received it a week before everyone else.

Re:Why discourage sales? (4, Informative)

Kaboom13 (235759) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735940)

They make an agreement with the stores to ship the game early, but they cannot sell it until release date. This way all the stores across the country can start selling it on the same day. If you don't agree, they don't ship to you until just before the release date, so you dont get it until on or after the release date. This way ensures a nationwide simultaneous release, which maximizes release-date hype and the effect of release date advertizing. Stores like it because there is plenty of time to fix shipping problems without missing out on all the release date sales and pissing off their pre-order customers. It also stops the first shop to get it from hiking up the price and taking advantage of the situation. Stores voluntarily enter into these agreements as they benefit everyone, although some stores break them from time to time (either intentionally or by mistake).

Re:Why discourage sales? (2, Informative)

DaftShadow (548731) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735972)

Your argument makes sense as a rant, but it completely ignores the reasoning behind release dates. The stores can't sell it early because it doesn't go on SALE until the 9th. Everyone knows it comes out on the 9th. I met a 50 year old guy the other day that couldn't stop talking about how he couldn't wait until Nov. 9th so he could get his copy of Halo 2. This is a huge date, and there are huge parties and huge programs and lots of hype and lots of expectations. Many of the EBGames will be hosting halo tourneys, and staying open very late, so they can give away Halo 2 at 12:01am on Nov 9th.

Now, because of the effort required for a store to recieve merchandise and ready it for sale and put it into their store's computer systems, and all that jazz, they have to do a lot of work. Hours and Hours worth of work. It's not as simple as getting a box, putting it on the shelf, and selling it. So all the stores need to get their copies early. It's common practice for movie stores to get movies 1-2 weeks in advance. I expect that, for game stores, the same is generally true (if possible, of course :).

Having games in the back offices early doesn't "encourage" piracy... it merely means that it is possible that someone unscrupulous might get their hands on a copy early and put it up for download.

- DaftShadow

Re:Why discourage sales? (1)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10736011)

"The stores can't sell it early because it doesn't go on SALE until the 9th"

So you have a product sitting there, easily sold, but they can't sell it.

"Having games in the back offices early doesn't "encourage" piracy"

It certainly does, just like the "DVD Region" system does. It does provide an incentive for piracy ("illicit appropriation") if the product is available, but for some arbitrary reason (or region) you can't buy it.

Re:Why discourage sales? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735988)

This is pretty common practice on new releases of product and is not limited to the software industry. It's to be fair among retail stores. Distibutors feed the various retailers with product, if retailers are given the rights to sell on reception of the product, they gain an advantage over the retailers who have not yet recieved that product. So they set a common date, where all stores should have receieved their product by and can put it out on their shelves and be competative with the other stores.

Re:Why discourage sales? MARKETING PROTECTION (1)

Snowhare (263311) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735998)

To prevent 'word of mouth' from killing bad products 'day 1' sales. If 'opinion leader' players decide it sucks by playing limitted quantity 'pre-release' copies and tell all their friends, it will decimate 'day 1' sales that could normally be guaranteed by a marketing blitz even for the lousiest game.

As someone famous once said... (4, Informative)

lpangelrob2 (721920) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735733)

...whoops.

Meijer, for those who don't know (and since they're a regional store, I suppose there would be many that don't), is the name of a chain of stores that are individually frickin' huge. They're compete directly with Wal-Mart and Target. So if Microsoft/Bungie decides to stop giving Meijer their software/hardware to sell, I think Meijer would just say 'boo-hoo'... they've still got hundreds of aisles of clothing, food, other companies' software, and housewares to make a profit from.

Will it come to a lawsuit? Maybe. Would it be worth Microsoft's time? Probably not, but that is a question left up for debate.

A lawsuit (1)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735802)

"Will it come to a lawsuit? Maybe. Would it be worth Microsoft's time?"

Yeah, it would be great to see someone sued for selling a legal properly-licensed product.

Re:A lawsuit (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735890)

Microsoft probably has a deal with the suppliers that they will not sell copies for release before the release date. In cases where they are the direct supplier (like to Wal-mart) the deal will be between Microsoft and the retailer. Shit rolls downhill. Someone is probably getting sued.

Re:A lawsuit (1)

Samari711 (521187) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735984)

If that's true, Microsoft would still have to figure out if it's worth it to sue. with a company like Meijer who probably has a large pack of rabid lawyers (it's a grocery store, pretty good target for consumer suits) and the fact that this causes very little actual damage to Microsoft, it'd probably end up being more expensive to sue.

besides, it's free marketing; Halo2 is on the front page of slashdot again...

Are there even going to be availability issues? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735745)

It sounds like Nintendo won't have enough DS's to go around, but I can't imagine M$ hasn't pulled out all the stops to press as many of these as possible to try and compete with the new PStwo.

Priorities (2, Funny)

rackhamh (217889) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735746)

$265 to play a video game a few days early.

Surely an undersexed geek can think of a better way to blow $265????

Re:Priorities (1)

Chi Hsuan Men (767453) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735815)

>Surely an undersexed geek can think of a better way to blow $265????

How do you think they became undersexed in the first place?

Re:Priorities (4, Funny)

Kenja (541830) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735846)

"Surely an undersexed geek can think of a better way to blow $265????"

Like spending a half hour with a 500$ an hour hooker?

Re:Priorities (2, Funny)

Squareball (523165) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735850)

Like 13 blowjobs from a hooker? Damn, they'd still have $5 left for a Big Mac meal afterwards!

Betas Have Been Leaked For A While (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735747)

I don't know why anybody would pay ~$265 to get the game a week early in the first place. Anybody with a modded Xbox can get the beta version of the game.

A french beta was floating around my dorm hall a few weeks ago. Everything was in english exccept for single player dialogue. I played the multiplayer game for a while.

Apparently there is an English beta around now too.

Online Play Prior To Official Release Date? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735816)

I wonder if Microsoft has the XBox Live servers for Halo2 up and running yet? If not, its hardly worth the hassle of searching for an early copy.

Meijer Thrifty Acres should have known better. (2, Funny)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735830)

Meijer's should have known better. They'll pay big for this. That will teach them. Next time, they'll give away free cracked copies of "Halo 3" or whatever. Anything is better than actually selling properly-licensed packaged software to customers for the proper price.

Re:Meijer Thrifty Acres should have known better. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735864)

*cough cough*astro*cough*turfing*cough cough*

Fines can be Huge (2, Informative)

MISplice (19058) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735842)

When I use to work for a retailer.. if a major release was sold before the date we could be fined as much as $10,000 per copy that was sold. If Halo 2 is that drastic Meijer would be looking at a fairly hefty penalty.

Re:Fines can be Huge (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735880)

They may have called them "fines" but don't imply that there is any law at work here, other than the language of whatever contract the outlet has with the distributor.

Re:Fines can be Huge (1)

Gannoc (210256) | more than 9 years ago | (#10736041)

They may have called them "fines" but don't imply that there is any law at work here, other than the language of whatever contract the outlet has with the distributor.

Usually its something like: "If you ever want to sell our games again, pay this additional $X fine"

Happens all the time.... (4, Interesting)

Chanc_Gorkon (94133) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735851)

This happens all the time. I myself got the Tron Collector's DVD at Walmart 2 days before (wasn't realy looking for it, but I saw it and realized it was early and picked it up anyway...). Usually the way it goes is EBGames, or Meijer or some other retailer will have some low wage guy accidently pop it in the case and start selling it. It wasn't his fault. Then people will see it, think it's out, and go to thier favorite store and ask them about it. Most managers of these stores figures well if one store is selling it, then I sure as hell am going to make a sale as well. Then it just goes by local gamer grapevine and the day before the release date, everyone has it out for sale. I honestly don't understand why they do things like this. If it's not supposed to come out til X date, why ship it so it's sitting in the store room for 3 days? I doubt Meijer will have anything happen to them. They sell too many Xboxes and game for Microsoft for Microsoft to even care. For all we know, it may be a stunt being pulled by Microsoft....i mean the game was advertised by ilovebees.

Big deal... (4, Funny)

Rorschach1 (174480) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735861)

J'avais joué le Halo 2 pendant deux semaines, et appris à parler français, aussi!

Reminds Me (3, Interesting)

techsoldaten (309296) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735862)

Reminds me of how I got my Playstation 2. This happened about three days before they were officially released.

A friend of mine is general manager of an unnamed software retail store, and he owed me for money I loaned him to get his car fixed. He called and told me to come by the store. He handed me a PS2, the most recent version of Madden, a hockey game and a couple of others. It sucked because you could not buy the extra dual shock controller yet, so he popped open another box and gave me the one from there.

Just because a store has a release date in mind, does not mean people's agendas change.

M

While you're at Meijjer... (-1, Offtopic)

ZipR (584654) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735883)

Pick up some of there gummy bears from the bulk foods. They're the best you'll ever have and only $1.49 per pound. Seriously!
Wishin' we had a Meijjer store here in Washington, DC...

Re:While you're at Meijjer... (1)

Eclypser (618863) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735943)

MMMM Precious Gummy. Bring Meijer to Maryland.

Re:While you're at Meijjer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10736020)

Having moved from Michigan to the DC area, I'll agree we need to get a meijer down here. There aren't even any Super Wally-Worlds. Groceries are ridiculous at the super markets. $8.99/lb. for ham or turkey the the deli counter, yikes!

And of course, mmmmm....... gummy bears........

Viral marketing (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735898)

We've already had the bees, this is simply another way to make buzz, "heat in the channel". Thank you /. for giving them free advertising.

Worse still, Microsoft might assume $265 or whatever is bid, is the actual value of the game, although it only reflects the valuations of a few desperate nerds.

Even though the obtaining-of-software-before-the-release-date goes against the principles of intellectual property that M$ hold so dear, we all know how they make exceptions for themselves, being so big and all.

Suckers... (0, Troll)

DroopyStonx (683090) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735908)

*cough*alt.binaries.cd.image.xbox*cough*

Re:Suckers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10736021)

You said all of that in a cough? some talent!

its would be cheaper (1)

joper90 (669321) | more than 9 years ago | (#10735947)

to chip the xbox, download the game.. and then get your pre-ordered copy when its 'offically' released. total cost for the desperados $25

i played it the other day (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10735975)

kind of shite.

exactly the same as the first but with 2 guns as far as i could see.

even had the same rubbish bad guys.

i gave up after the first level and played Prince of Persia instead - maybe it gets better after that i don't know.

anyway, it's certainly no worth £145..

I miss Meijer's Thrifty Acres (1)

Rich Klein (699591) | more than 9 years ago | (#10736025)

I used to live in Michigan and did a lot of shopping at Meijer's. I still remember my mom buying me some Mexican Jumping Beans at Meijer's when I was still in early elementary school. Meijer's carries damn near everything - groceries, clothing, appliances, etc. - and most stores are open 24 hours (IIRC). I doubt video games are a large percentage of their sales, so I doubt a reprimand from Bungie will do them any serious damage (though it'll still sting).

Meijer! (1)

Trailer Trash (60756) | more than 9 years ago | (#10736026)

Meijer stores, a self-described grocery and general merchandise retailer

For those who have never had the pleasure to go to a Meijer, it's like a large, clean Wal-Mart Supercenter. The smallest Meijer store that I've been in is still larger than my hometown. I believe that Wal-Mart's supercenters are possibly patterned after the large Meijer stores.

Check out their web site. [meijer.com]

WTF (1)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 9 years ago | (#10736043)

All this crappy hype for Halo 2 yet it's already been leaked in French (Still playable) and has been for a good few weeks now.

Maybe we should start on HL2 and pimp it on slashdot (See : Doom 3), for a couple of weeks yea?

Slashdot games : Never looked at yet always trying to sell us the latest FPS game

Meijer Rules (2, Informative)

Ryan Stortz (598060) | more than 9 years ago | (#10736049)

I've lived in Michigan all my life, not far from Greenville where the first Meijer store was founded. I have to say, Meijer rocks. They do so much for the community.

One thing I just think is awesome, is that the Meijer family paid for the casting of a Leonardo da Vinci sculpture. The sculpture was to be a 22 foot tall bronze horse for the Duke of Milan. However, before Da Vinci could finish, the French invaded and used the horse as target practics. The Meijer family had two cast, one is now in Milan, the other sits in Fredrick Meijer Gardens in Grand Rapids.
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