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A Review of "The Incredibles"

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the leave-the-cape-at-home dept.

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erikharrison writes "Last night I caught a late showing of 'The Incredibles', Pixar's new computer animated bonanza. Here is a review, relatively spoiler free." Read on for the rest of Erik's review. I saw the movie yesterday too, and it's excellent - go check it out.

First off, this is Slashdot. You know, News for nerds, yadda yadda. So, let's start off with talking about the special effects, or more generally, Pixar showing off all that they have learned and accomplished.

The big hype in the animation sector has been the characters - real human people. Don't be fooled by the hype. Pixar has been doing humans as characters since "Toy Story". With the single exception of "A Bug's Life", human beings have featured as a major character in every Pixar film, and while the effect here is fantastic, it is evolutionary, not revolutionary. No, what stands out in terms of technical acheivement here is the movie's stunning use of light. Sure, "Finding Nemo" accomplished a lot here, but in that film, light was a tool to give depth to the water that surrounded the characters. Here in "The Incredibles" the light is a thing unto itself. Gorgeous shadows, warm red lava, sunlight against clouds, all of these things are breathtaking. The use of sunlight, especially in the jungle sequences, give objects a three dimensionality they have never possessed in a Pixar film before. It's clear that Pixar didn't have the chops prior to this film to do action sequences, because prior to this, the feeling of moving in a three dimensional space just wasn't there.

The movie itself is not just a breakthrough technically, it's a very different movie from previous Pixar productions. This is very intentional. All previous Pixar movies have been dreamed up primarily by John Lasseter and Andrew Stanton, Pixar veterans. So the story goes, these guys are looking back at Pixar history and while they see the series of wonderful made films that the rest of us have seen, apparently they also saw something else: an encroaching rut. There was a very real chance that Pixar could have become the next Disney in a very short time, making well produced and financially successful repeats of their earlier successes for years on end. They didn't want that to happen. And that takes fresh blood. Enter Brad Bird. Bird was an art student with Lasster, and had made one feature film five years ago - the sady underseen "Iron Giant". Brad Bird was challenged to make a different kind of movie, with complete creative control - he wrote and directed. This gamble paid off hugely.

This is not a kids movie. Seriously. Previous Pixar films have been consumate kids movies, movies so well made, and so funny that parents could enjoy them. And there are even a few adult gags the kids might not get. "The Incredibles" is a completely different tack. "The Incredibles" is an action movie, first and foremost, one of the best of the current crop of superhero films. Then it is a family film second, and a kids movie third, if at all.

To give you the basics: the world is full of superheros. The biggest are Mr. Incredible, super strong and invulnerable, Elastigirl, a Ms. Fantastic of sorts, and Frozone, a Silver Surfer/Iceman hybrid. Due to events that occur on Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl's wedding day, superheros wind up on the wrong end of - get this for deja vu - lawsuits. Lawsuits by the thousands. The government comes up with a relocation program, hiding the supers and pardoning them from actions performed in spandex, with the agreement that they hero no more.

Mr. Incredible becomes Bob Parr, an overweight insurance adjuster, with three kids. The symbolism is rampant. Once incredible, now he must suppress both his gifts and his insatiable need to help people, getting in trouble with his boss for actually helping their customers. From incredible, to just par. He's huge. He fills up the entirety of his cubical space, he fills up his entire car, he bends doorknobs, and cutting through his son's steak, he cuts through the table. He is too big for the small world that society wants to peg him in.

On the other hand, he's missing the one incredible part of his life - his family. His son Dash is tired of suppressing his lightning speed, and his teenage daughter Violet is tired of moving everytime the government needs to cover up her father's identity. When she can't hide behind her goth hair, she uses her powers to turn invisible. Managing the two of them and their third child, a normal baby named Jack Jack, Elastigirl is getting tired of being the only real parent.

Their marriage is strained, their kids are young and angry, his job is about to fall apart, and her patience is thin. It's a domestic situation primed to explode, and for the many of us out their who have seen couples divorce, we know exactly where it's going.

Except something happens.

And thereby hangs a tale. As you can see, this isn't some allegory about our lives from the point of view of a bug or a toy or a monster. It IS our lives. But with superpowers. Much like the also fabulous "Shaun of the Dead" the real story is a human one, but framed within spectacular events. The visuals are awesome, the special effects are fabulous, and the dialog not only funny but at times witty. I can bet that 90% of Slashdotters will see themselves on screen, most likely identifying with the daughter Violet or the villain Syndrome.

The performances are of course amazing. Pixar continues its talent of finding distinctive and expressive voices in the world of more traditional acting. Jason Lee as syndrome hints at his performance in "Dogma" and Craig T. Nelson shows us he can be so much more than just the coach from Coach. Holly Hunter shows her never ending flexibility (no pun intended), and newcomer Sarah Vowell as Violet (from National Public Radio's "This American Life") is quite delightful. And the only complaint about Samuell L. Jackson is that there isn't enough of him.

One sad difference between "The Incredibles" and Pixar's previous offerings is that it has a few minor niggles. Regardless of how you feel about Pixar's previous work, it was all carefully and consummately made. The movie's mixture of family interactions and superheros almost always works, but is slightly shakey with its villain Syndrome. He's got great lines, a good backstory, and a perfectly over the top performance from Jason Lee, but something just doesn't quite work, and that's the first time I've ever said that about a Pixar flick. But in the end it doesn't matter. So much works here, that the little stuff gets washed away.

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Not so great? (-1, Flamebait)

wertarbyte (811674) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747735)

Or how do I have to interpret "Nothing for you to see here. Please move along."?

Re:Not so great? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747804)

Or how do I have to interpret "Nothing for you to see here. Please move along."?

Not that hard to interpret. I moved along and won many fabulous prizes! Instead of moving along you hung around here to whine and moan and didn't win anything. I guess it sucks to be you.

cartoons ?... (0, Offtopic)

ilikeitraw (706793) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747736)

p'shaw.... FIRST POST !

Great Job (2)

Saturn SL1-WNY (807134) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747738)

Glad to see that Pixar is finally moving into something besides the little kids genre, I hope the same success that applies to Shiny Animated Kids's Charactors applies to this higher-age-range action film as well.

excellent (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747742)

excellent

This begs the question: (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747753)

Is Disney even relevant anymore?

Don't get there late (5, Informative)

citking (551907) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747755)

When you DO go to "The Incredibles", be sure not to arrive late. The "Revenge of the Sith" trailer is attached to the movie, and the cartoon short that appears before the show is absolutely hilarious! Adding to the hilarity of the movie is Jason Lee (of Kevin Smith fame) voicing a bad guy. I kept flashing back to "Chasing Amy":

"I AM NOT A TRACER!"

Re:Don't get there late (4, Interesting)

Ikn (712788) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747777)

I'll second this. The short wasn't as great as some (The Birds!), but still very good. And I'll also mention there's a trailer for Pixar's next movie, 'Cars'. It definitely looks geared a bit more to kids than the usual Pixar flick, but I thought the same about Shrek, so what do I know?

Re:Don't get there late (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747809)

"So if George W. Bush wins, I will sit down, and I will cry. I will cry for my children, who will most certainly face a military draft, and I will cry for my country, because I believe that America can, and must, do better than George W. Bush."


Wil Wheaton.

Re:Don't get there late (2, Informative)

JoJoTheDFB (61532) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747828)

On the SWE3 trailer front, not all prints have it attached. My wife saw The Incredibles at one show, and I saw it at another (we have a 4-mo. old, so we see movies in shifts :) ), and she got to see it and I did not. I'd ask before you buy your ticket if that's super-important to you.

Re:Don't get there late (4, Informative)

FlutterVertigo(gmail (800106) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747886)


Sith Trailer: the "code" on the film reels is "Sand Dog" or "Sand Dogs".

If you ask the theatre which screens & shows have the trailer and they aren't certain, ask them to check the code name on the reels - they're supposed to be labelled clearly although not all of the threatre personnel know this is the distinction and have been confused regarding what the code means and have ignored it.

Re:Don't get there late (2, Informative)

Robotech_Master (14247) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747860)

Actually, it's only attached in certain areas; it wasn't there in Springfield, Missouri, nor did a friend of mine from New Jersey get it where he saw the movie.

If you know for a fact that you don't have the trailer, or just don't care about it, you might actually want to arrive late, to miss the annoyingly twee "Boundin'" short that precedes the movie.

Re:Don't get there late (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747946)

Here in Portland Or, we went to a theatre out in Hillsboro and Saturday morning, there was no RotS trailer.

Re:Don't get there late (1)

xanadu-xtroot.com (450073) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748003)

I, personally, would call Mall Rats as his greater "claim to Fame". Him as Azrael in Dogma was a great role as well (especially the cut footage of him in the bar scene towards the end of the flck).

Great movie (2, Interesting)

Ikn (712788) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747757)

Pixar really does seem to know what they're doing. My 2 favorite lines are somewhat spoiler-ish so I'll keep them to myself, but they definitely have the whole 'market to kids, but the parents will enjoy it' routine down. I saw it with my 22-year old SO and was laughing as much as the annoying kids behind us (quit kickin' my chair!)

Re:Great movie (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747882)

I saw it with my 22-year old SO

Decided to take the 22-year old SO out this time? Guess you need a change from the 27-year old SO and the 19-year old SO from time to time.

Re:Great movie (3, Interesting)

FlutterVertigo(gmail (800106) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747919)

I've seen questions posted elsewhere asking for advice about kids. Obviously, seeing animation in a commercial attracts not on the kids but makes the parents think it's likely apparent. I've talked to several people who have taken their kids & regretted it.

Ebert & Roeper both stated it was not a movie for kids. Hopefully, the next time I see it the parents will learn to keep their kids occupied (not ooh, ahh, laughter, but chatter, chatter, chatter) or adjourn them outside of the screening room when it's far enough into the movie it would be time for a commercial were it to be on television.

Re:Great movie (3, Informative)

reso (716467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747957)

I'm guessing ebert & roeper's kids must have really bad ADD, or you work for dreamworks.

my nephews loved it.

Man... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747759)

"Mr. Incredible becomes Bob Parr, an overweight insurance adjuster, with two kids."

I would commit ritual suicide if that happened...he really is incredible :p

Re:Man... (1)

jhtrih (218203) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747936)

Why do I think of Tom Clancy? Maybe he has superpowers too...

Re:Man... (4, Interesting)

bl1st3r (464353) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747986)

"Mr. Incredible becomes Bob Parr, an overweight insurance adjuster, with two kids."

Good quote. I competely missed it. Mr. Incredible actually becomes Bob Parr, an overweight insurance adjuster, with three kids. Not two. The reviewer completely forgot about Jack Jack.

Grammar Nazism aside, this was a completely thorough and delightful read. This should stand up as a model on how to write a review.

I also missed the reviewers name. Erik Harrison. This is insanely creepy because my name is Eric Harrison. I wonder what his middle name is.

Re:Man... (3, Insightful)

MagicDude (727944) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747996)

Can an invunerable man commit suicide? What could he do to himself that supervillans couldn't?

Re:Man... (1)

ender1598 (266355) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748028)

Die from lack of oxygen?

Re:Man... (1)

AlfredoLambda (654892) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748055)

As seen in JMS' Rising Stars...

Computer animation at its best (5, Interesting)

Patik (584959) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747760)

There are so many details in the movie it's insane. The scenes where they run through the jungle are amazing. Every single tree and plant is highly detailed even though it rushes past you in the blink of an eye. The humans are just right -- not realistic-looking, but realistic enough. Their hair and clothes are excellently textured, while their skin and faces are comic book-like. The mechanical robot they fight looks like it is made of real metal, not drawn. The lighting effects, as mentioned in the review, are perfect. The whole movie is an animation masterpiece.

Re:Computer animation at its best (2, Insightful)

DeepHurtn! (773713) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747913)

The humans are just right -- not realistic-looking, but realistic enough.

I haven't seen The Incredibles yet, but I know what you mean. I saw a trailer for The Arctic Express the other day, and I really disliked the animation style it uses -- it's trying too hard, IMHO, to be realistic. The end result just looks creepy (especially the Tom Hanks lookalike train conductor ).

Speaking of CG, Blizzard is showing good form... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747763)

...as usual, with the latest WoW trailer [gametrailers.com] (~20MiB).

Humans, animals, fur, particle systems, water, fire, etc.

Watch it.

Re:Speaking of CG, Blizzard is showing good form.. (0, Flamebait)

cbreaker (561297) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747899)

Surely that was contracted out to someone else to make, just like the EQ2 movie.

Neither of them represent the games they are trying to sell, either. Not even close.

Maybe one of these days they'll make a CG movie on the D&D type genre though - it could be good. The trailers for these games always leave you wanting to see more - but then I guess that's the point; "for more, play the game!!"

Re:Speaking of CG, Blizzard is showing good form.. (3, Informative)

Japong (793982) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748059)

Blizzard does all of their animation in-house, and they are very well known for their high quality work. Their artists are obsessive with detail, and the standards for getting into one of their animation jobs are sky-high.

And represent the game they're trying to sell? That's a matter of opinion: they're trying to make the most exciting and visually pleasing movie possible using the source material, which they do, and do rather well. A video reflecting in-game gameplay would be best served by... recording in-game gameplay, maybe? It sure as hell wouldn't be as interesting to watch, that's for sure.

Copy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747769)

I am dying to see this movie, but the one thing that sticks out to me: Isn't this the fantastic four, power-wise? You have a really strong brute, someone who can turn invisible and use force-fields, someone who is really stretchy, and instead of Johnny Flame, you you have the Flash. That doesn't really mean much for the enjoyability of the movie, but surely Marvel must have seen some sort of connection?

Re:Copy? no... "satire" (4, Insightful)

mughi (32874) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747821)

I am dying to see this movie, but the one thing that sticks out to me: Isn't this the fantastic four, power-wise?

It's precisely because of that sort of thing that the movie works. Rather than "Copy", though, it's more frequently called "tribute" and "satire" (the latter gaining them protection from lawsuits).

There's touches of Fantastic Four, X-Men, Superman, Spiderman, James Bond, Rankin and Bass HeatMiser and more. Just look for them and enjoy the cultural richness

:-)

Re:Copy? no... "satire" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747863)

Re:Copy? (1)

BottleCup (691335) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747826)

That was exactly my reaction when I saw the trailers. I will have to admit that I too havent seen the movie, but yeah even the name bears some similarities: Incredible - Fantastic

Re:Copy? (1)

morcheeba (260908) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747888)

yep, power-wise the Fantastic Four [superherostuff.com] have similar powers, but it's not a copy. From what I remember of the F4, the personalities are very very different. Bob Parr is a thoughtful, sensitive strong man embarrassed when he accidently breaks something -- very unlike The Thing.

A lot of these super powers have been recycled - strength, flexibility, invisibility, speed. The only suspicious thing is that invisibility and force-field are in the same person in both families.

Re:Copy? (1)

cfalcon (779563) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748016)

Yea, you just have to deal with this, I guess. I kinda bugged me, but most of my friends are ok with the unoriginality. I mean, the chick can go invisible and use force fields. Those two powers have nothing in common, except to rip off whatserface. On the bright side, I'm now totally convinced that the "strechable hero" is much better as a female. I had thought that with those similarities, they were going to be doing something tongue in cheek about the originals, but, if there was, I didn't see it. More disturbing is the fantasy nature (those who nature/god has blessed with powers are divinely fit to rule, those who are noteworthy through intelligence and effort are foes, and the rule of the fit is better than democracy). At least to me, I dislike that rule-of-kings crap.

Saw it last night too... (3, Interesting)

thewiz (24994) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747773)

And absolutely LOVED it!

It's nice to see that Pixar is sticking to it's guns on having a great story/script BEFORE they start making a movie out of it. Too bad Eisner & Co. didn't get that clue and I think Pixar will be all the better for it now that they've told Disney to get lost.

As Steve Jobs would say, the movie is "insanely great"!

Re:Saw it last night too... (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747840)

"Insanely great" though the film itself may be, I still have a beef with the distributor [losingnemo.com] . I'll probably wait for the video, as I did for Finding Nemo. I'll more likely see Pixar movies in theaters once the Disney deal expires and Pixar starts owning its own franchises, starting with Rata-however-you-spell-it.

Grrrrr *jealous* (1)

AkaXakA (695610) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747912)

Yeah yeah, get us jealous already.

Does anyone know when it's coming out in Europe?

I've looked for it everywhere, but can only find the American date!

Re:Saw it last night too... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747917)

As Steve Jobs would say, "Shut up and drink your Kool-Aid."

Re:Saw it last night too... (4, Insightful)

Octagon Most (522688) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748071)

Eisner & Co. may get the last laugh. The Pixar deal has one more picture to go, "Cars" in November 2005. Disney has said that the previous offer that Pixar rejected was the best they would offer and if they return to the bargaining table will not even be that generous again. Of course there is a lot of corporate posturing going on here by both sides and both companies are run by men of extraordinary egos. Pixar stands to gain huge by owning their movies and just cutting a distribution deal - as George Lucas has with Fox for the Star Wars franchise. But Disney has an Ace up their sleeve. They will retain the sequel rights to all the Pixar movies made under the current contract. So they can churn out straight-to-video sequels to Toy Story at will. The Incredibles practically begs for a sequel. But ask yourself if you want the company responsible for The Lion King 1 1/2 or The Return of Jafar (aka Aladdin II) to make them. Can the Pixar talent that crafted these films bear to see that happen? Can they cut all ties to their creations and move forward with the same drive and determination? And will they continue to create new films that are both critical and commercial hits? While they are contemplating this Disney has a lot of time and money to build a new kind of animation studio to compete with Pixar. Maybe they will even find some of that old time Disney magic and start prioritizing great storytelling. I'm still willing to bet on Pixar in head to head competition, but I think Disney is in a much better bargaining position than most people realize.

Nice Job Mr. harrison (1)

eltoyoboyo (750015) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747778)

I have many reviews, but Erik's one one of the better ones. (His review, not the movie itself). I am looking forward to the movie, not just because it looks good and also because the "Sand Dogs" trailer appears with it in the U.S.(That would be the Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of The Sith)

Re:Nice Job Mr. harrison (1)

erikharrison (633719) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747955)

Actually, when I saw "The Incredibles" in the theatre on the 5th I saw no Star Wars trailer.

Now I'm kinda disappointed . . .

ps - Thanks for the compliment.

Don't lie (3, Funny)

MrP- (45616) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747781)

We know you didn't actually watch the movie, you just went in to see the new Star Wars trailer on the big screen, then you left.

Wet hair rendered (5, Informative)

morcheeba (260908) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747783)

I was amazed at the rendering of long, wet hair. I dug up this cool paper [unc.edu] on the subject.

With every movie, computer graphics takes another step. Antz had water, Lion King had computer-generated herds... Although we're really close, we'll get to a point where the animation no longer constrains the story.

Re:Wet hair rendered (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10748010)

Antz was a rip-off of A Bugs Life and financed by blood money from Microsoft soley to screw over Steve Jobs and Pixar. Another one of the many pieces of evidence that solidifies the theory that Gates is Satan.

Chuck E. Cheese (1)

sinnfeiner1916 (793749) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747785)

You can't get in if you are under 18 without an adult. You also can't get in if you're over 18 without a kid. I guess this is to keep out creepy weirdo molesters. Doesn't anybody think that it might be a similarly good idea to keep weird adults out of kid movies? When does it stop being OK to watch cartoons?

Speaking of humans... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747788)

...seen Final Fantasy?....best 3D graphics movie i have seen yet. The textures, cloth, hair...not to speak of the motion capture...aah...it was awesome.

Re:Speaking of humans... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747938)

Too bad the plot and storyline were shit.

The flaw with 3D animation these days isn't the graphics, it's the motion. The physics of certain motions are not accurate and this gives a very odd result on the screen. Once they fix this, it'll be much better.

Highlight (0, Troll)

Ambient_Developer (825456) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747795)

I sure hope the highlight of the movie isn't MR. Incredible getting his belt buckled.

Re:Highlight (1)

reso (716467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747831)

yeah, they based the success of the entire movie on some slapstick. you are a special person indeed.

Re:Highlight (4, Informative)

dcstimm (556797) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747890)

It wasnt in the movie......Only the trailer... I love when they have exclusive shots for trailers so they dont ruin the movie.....

Re:Highlight (1)

nofx_3 (40519) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747911)

IIRC, that is not actually shown in the movie. Not to spoil the movie, but the first time you see him in that particular red suit he is already ready for action.

Re:Highlight (1)

Ambient_Developer (825456) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747931)

To bad, that sure was funny! I have seen movies base their entire story line off of a single funny thing though.

Just go see it, it's great. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747798)

I just got back a little while ago from catching an 11am showing, and it was worth sitting in a theater full of annoying, noisy children to see this one on opening weekend (instead of waiting a couple weeks like I usually do).

The animation was spectacular, and there were quite a few laughs.

My biggest disappointment (3, Informative)

blamanj (253811) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747801)

...was that the scene in the teaser trailer, of Mr. I attempting to buckle his belt, is not in the film.

Other than that, a pretty good movie, though perhaps not in the same league as Toy Story and A Bug's Life.

Re:My biggest disappointment (1)

Rutulian (171771) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748049)

Uhhh...actually it is. When he puts on his old super suit and goes on the secret mission.

wow (1)

leav (797254) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747807)

sounds really cool... it wont air here (israel) for another 3 weeks though... :(

Re:wow (2, Interesting)

wertarbyte (811674) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747845)

it wont air here (israel) for another 3 weeks though... :(

I guess it'll take even longer here in germany. Well, it'll be coming soon to a torrent tracker near you :-)

Re:wow (1)

Trurl's Machine (651488) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747894)

I guess it'll take even longer here in germany. Well, it'll be coming soon to a torrent tracker near you :-)

Or a country near you. It open on Nov 19th in Poland - after a couple of vodkas, you will even begin to understand Polish dialogue :-).

Re:wow (1)

name773 (696972) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748026)

so once it airs in Russia, he's all set

Re:wow (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10748073)

just go kill some arabs to make time.

Probably the Peak (5, Interesting)

DumbSwede (521261) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747819)

While The Incredibles is indeed incredible, I was much less impressed with the Jackalope lead in, which I'm guessing was more for the kids as an offset to the more adult story line of The Incredibles itself. Unlike previous Pixar previews, Cars left me cold. I suspect The Incredibles will be the Apex of Pixar and Disney's union. Here's to hoping Pixar going alone will continue to amaze and innovate.

Ironically, Disney's solo "Chicken Little" looks to be pretty good (previewed at The Incredibles also).

Re:Probably the Peak (5, Informative)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747916)

I was much less impressed with the Jackalope lead in, which I'm guessing was more for the kids as an offset to the more adult story line of The Incredibles itself.

That may be so but most of these lead-ins were not made to be precede Pixar films. Most of them are short films on their own that Pixar has made in the past. Boundin' was made last year and was an Oscar nominated animated short film. [scifidimensions.com] I'm not sure what criteria is used to pick these shorts but I think that they are probably Pixar's way of recognizing their employees and their work.

Randism? In a world where everyone is super... (5, Interesting)

DoorFrame (22108) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747847)

I really enjoyed this movie, but it had a weird streak of Ayn Randism running through it. I actually rather liked that, but each time it caused to step back from the movie a little bit. There were a couple of lines thrown in like "And when everybody's super, then no one is," announced by the bad guy. Or when Dash is told by his parents that everyone is special, he retorts with "that's just a way of saying that nobody is."

This movie encouraged exceptionalism in a way that was striking for a kid's movie. It actively lobbied against the idea of everybody being unique in their own way, it argued in favor of there being Nietzchi-esque supermen among us who should be lifted up above the masses for the betterment of society.

Whether or not you like the message, it was kind of fun to see what I was expecting to be a kid's film making an arguement about philosophy. Fun stuff. Good movie.

Re:Randism? In a world where everyone is super... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747915)

There were a couple of lines thrown in like "And when everybody's super, then no one is," announced by the bad guy.

Except for... Bicycle Repair Man [orangecow.org] !

Pixar + Nietzsche = The Incredibles (3, Interesting)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747929)

This review on the blog Backwards City [blogspot.com] has an interesting take on the Nietzchien implications of the movie.

Which point is an interesting philosphical problem in itself: the ethical question of what do you do with the gifted in the first place?

Re:Pixar + Nietzsche = The Incredibles (1)

name773 (696972) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748081)

to say that everyone is or isn't special is somewhat lacking in information, as people are typically gifted in a certain area or group of areas... granted that among a group of people geared a certain way, there are varying proficiencies, saying that there are simply two categories is a bit off

Re:Randism? In a world where everyone is super... (1)

GQuon (643387) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748075)

Yeah, but those who said that were both showing their negative sides. One moping over being called to the principal's office, and the other was a gloating powerist bigot.

Alan Moore "Watchmen" (4, Interesting)

Trurl's Machine (651488) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747853)

While I enjoyed "The Incredibles" very much, I couldn't shake the impression that the movie storyline is just a bit too close to the storyline of the classic Alan Moore graphic novel. "Watchmen" also tell the story of superheroes whose activity was banned by law - thus ending the Golden Age - and they were given new identities by the government just like in the witness protection. Even the idea of portraying the Golden Age and the contemporary narrative in different graphic styles, reflecting differences in aestethics of contemporary graphic novel and 1930's comics is present here - in "Incredibles", we have contemporary CGI animations and hilarious spoofs of "retro" cartoons of the Golden Age.

I had the opportunity to ask Brad Bird directly about this similarity on "The Incredibles" junkt in Santa Monica. He said he has never read "Watchmen". I believe him, but... it's just too close.

Re:Alan Moore "Watchmen" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10748022)

Watchmen was amazing.

I also loved V for Vendetta.

Man I remember going to the store on the day of issue releases with all the other comic fiends at Comix and Comics on Telegraph ave..... Those were the days!

Nobody is quick to point out the anime references! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747864)

Was Syndrome character design based off Akira or Vejita?

Akira Toriyama wants to sue for likeness!
Otomo Katsuhiro just wants you to go see Steam Boy.

I almost cried (5, Interesting)

Ballresin (398599) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747865)

The movie was able to jerk emotions out of me much more than expected. I come from a divorced family and there's lots of kids. I somehow had a weak spot for this and it shows when I watch it. Very Very VERY well made. Gotta love Pixar. Don't know what I think about Cars yet. Looks kinda goofy and stupid. But Incredibles' trailers didn't give anything away about the content of the movie either....

Re:I almost cried (1)

reso (716467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747883)

as far as Cars goes, lets hope it takes a long time to release. preferably with another Incredibles/Nemo sandwiched in-between ;)

Saw it last night... (4, Interesting)

herko_cl (533936) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747868)

...and I have to agree with the comments so far. The movie is extraordinary, one of the best I've seen so far this year. It may be an even better superhero movie than Spiderman 2, and that's saying a lot.
The effects are there to help the story along, not to shine by themselves. At lots of times I completely forgot that it was CGI; it's not animation, not live acting, but something in which you can get utterly absorbed. A must-see for any self respecting film geek, Pixar fan, CGI fan, or all of the above.

the dancing sheep (1)

cyfer2000 (548592) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747891)

hey,

do you guys all get the "dancing sheep" stuff before "the incredibles" either?

I like it.

Lighting... Finally!!!! (4, Interesting)

mughi (32874) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747892)

Ever since the early days, one thing that has annoyed me about Pixar is their strange love of over-saturated light. From their early TV commercials on they've had it. The one part of Toy Story I didn't like was that lighting (most often in sunset scenes, etc.), especially since I had just figured out that general problem in some 3D work I had been doing myself at that time and was very attuned to the look.

However... as the review pointed out, in this picture the lighting is just beautiful. The choices are great, and the look enhances without intruding. Basically it's moved up to being a strong supporting character

Elasticgirl! (1)

boingyzain (739759) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747893)

Psst... It's spelled ElastiGAL, not Elastigirl. You see that in the scene where he's flipping through the superheroes on Syndrome's computer.

Re:Elasticgirl! (1)

dcstimm (556797) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747940)

she was hot!, Oh wait she wasnt real. Oh wait..hmmmm I shouldnt think that way

Re:Elasticgirl! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747987)

Well thank fuck it isn't ElastiGRRL. I'd burn down every cinema showing it if it was.

Disinformation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10748038)

I've got the_incredibles-tlr_m480.mov paused at 00:00:49, and the frame says ELASTIGIRL.

I don't care about the movie (1)

Trogre (513942) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747906)

I'd go see it just for the "Revenge of ths Sith" trailer!

Favorite line and biggest issue (1)

hbmartin (579860) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747909)

My favorite line is when Syndrome (when he is just a boy) after Mr. Incredible telling him "Everyone is special," says "Which means no one is special."

My biggest issue with the movie was the modeling of the character's ears. It sounds small, but considering how well modeled the rest of the characters' facial features are, the lego-looking ears are really distracting.

And of course, my favorite thing about the movie was the RotS trailer...

Re:Favorite line and biggest issue (1)

theonetruekeebler (60888) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748054)

The nostrils are the same. Then I thought: action figures. These heroes look like action figures, not actual humans. Hence there isn't a deep hole where the ears and nostrils are.

Better than Shrek 2 (2, Informative)

GQuon (643387) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747926)

Better than Shrek 2, in my opinion.
The Incredibles has less of the movie spoof scenes, but makes up for it with a more compelling story.
The pop culture references are mainly about 50s/60s era super-heroes, but you won't miss it once the story gets going.

The Incredibles are simply incredible (5, Interesting)

MajorBlunder (114448) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747944)

I too saw the move at a late showing last night. I found it thoroughly enjoyable in all respects. The story was great, the acting (both vocal and animated) was supurb, and the effects were spectacular. I agree with the review in that while I would have no hesitations in bringing children to see this movie, it is not a "kids movie." There are some very mature themes in this movie that deal with family dynamics, middle age crisis, and the use of force/violence.

One of my favorite parts of the movie (spoiler alert) is when Elastigirl is talking to her children while hiding from the bad guys in a cave and warning them:

"You know those Saturday morning cartoons you used to watch? Well the bad guys here are not like that. They will not exercize restraint just because you're children. They will kill you if they can."


Again, while I thoroughly enjoyed this movie, I have a sinking fear that Disney is going turn this into another franchise that they will milk for all its worth. Until it has none of the spark which makes this movie so enjoyable.

Re:The Incredibles are simply incredible (1)

reso (716467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747995)

well, now that dreamworks is selling shrek tampons® , they gotta keep up ;)

could it be????????? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747950)

frost pist

Dear Slashdot (1)

Letter (634816) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747952)

Dear Slashdot,

Pixar didn't give the characters capes because it'd take too much time to compute the fabric simulations.

Wild!

I loved it (2, Insightful)

catdevnull (531283) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747968)


I think there is something silly about the critics (and wanna be critics) finding funny faults with something that isn't "so believable" about movies like this.

You can suspend disbelief about the super strength, the elasticity, the super speed, and invisibilty of cartoon characters but you have a hard time with they straw-man villain of the story?

Hello?

It's called "EN-TER-TAIN-MENT" --say it with me.

Save that kind of criticism for Start Wars: Revenge of the Sith

:-)

This movie is fantastic. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747970)

Undoubtedly the best Pixar movie yet. Sure, it has beautiful visuals and a great story, but there is something layered much deeper than hit right with me while I was watching it.

I think it's the message.

In public schools, kids who are incredibly intelligent and wish to progress forward in learning are discouraged to do so because it would be "unfair" and what have you. Because of that, they are sent down to the same classes as those who are, to put the bluntly, stupid(or just not as gifted).

It's the same thing in this movie, the unique(or "super") are sent down to live with those who they were once helping because they don't want it anymore.

Now MAYBE I'm just reading too much into something that isn't there, but it sounds like it is a metaphor for an ignorant populace that no longer wants to be helped by ones who can, which could be a metaphor for those who are creative and intelligent. Essentially, scientists and engineers(and the combinations of the two).

They all celebrate mediocrity and everyone being the same. It's a rather socialist point of view, and the Incredibles finally pull themselves out of their stuper and go back to helping mankind.

That's my view on it. Which is why I'm going to go see it again.
And again.

Many, many times over.

Re:This movie is fantastic. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10747983)

Pardon me, to put -it- bluntly(to correct a typo).

Did I just read... (1)

soulctcher (581951) | more than 9 years ago | (#10747975)

...the word "niggles"?

Seriously though, I caught the movie a couple nights ago and I was blown away. Pixar just gets better and better. The movie was just enough of a bold stroke away from what they've done previous.

If you are out to catch this film, be sure not to leave for the bathroom!

Did anyone catch the phone number? (2, Interesting)

pspmikek (195542) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748000)

The phone number on the Mirage business card appeared to be a real 866 number - anyone get it?

Obscure Star Wars Reference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10748004)

If you listen to the callsign of the plane piloted by ElastiGirl at one point in the movie, you should catch a reference to The Empire Strikes Back.

I was the only one that laughed at this... (1)

DA_MAN_DA_MYTH (182037) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748009)

probably because I was in a theatre with kids.

Evil Minion: Let's take a shot evertime we see people run.

Adult humor in a Pixar film, now that's comedy.

As I was watching the Acton Sequences... (1)

lasmith05 (578697) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748025)

I was just thinking about how great it would be if we could see marvel characters with the pixar treatment. They could keep their original costumes (cause they wouldn't be so ridiculous in a cartoon/cg movie) and super powers would be like they are in the comic books. Not to mention that the powers that the Incredibles had were biting off the Fantastic Four majorly.

"Wait 'til I get going! ... Where was I?" (4, Informative)

AaronBS (685204) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748031)

Another hidden gem in this movie is Wallace Shawn (Vizzini from The Princess Bride) as "Bob Parr's" boss in the insurance company. Fortunately, his role includes the lightning quick monologues that he's famous for.

I have to agree (1)

comwiz56 (447651) | more than 9 years ago | (#10748080)

It was an amzing movie. The visual effects, story, voices, everything!

And the soundtrack! How has nobody mentioned the soundtrack? It was fabulous.

This movie definately matched its title.
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