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Fedora Core Release 3 Released

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the stuff-to-play-with dept.

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anyweb writes "Fedora Core Release 3 is out now, Heidelberg, 2.6.9-1.667 kernel, Firefox included ! Gnome 2.8 and more. Here are some screenshots" New release includes Gnome 2.8, KDE 3.3, Kernel 2.6.9, Firefox PR1, Thunderbird 0.8, Ximian Evolution 2.0 and more. Here is a Mirror List and Bit Torrent

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fiiiinally (4, Funny)

The Other White Boy (626206) | more than 9 years ago | (#10754971)

now everybody kindly hop on the torrent so i can have this done by the time i leave work in six hours. =)

Re:fiiiinally (0)

The Other White Boy (626206) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755159)

slashdot, i love you. 405k/s down, 311k/s up =)

guess i'll let it run a while since i've actually got a good connection on upload for once.

Re:fiiiinally (0)

JPriest (547211) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755312)

There are no torrent's listed for the 4 CD ISO's, Only the 2.5 gig DVD ISO.

Re:fiiiinally (2, Interesting)

Pros_n_Cons (535669) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755323)

Don't forget about the binary DVD folks, It's much cooler not having to switch CD's during install, or waste 4 CD's

Time to Upgrade (4, Interesting)

a3217055 (768293) | more than 9 years ago | (#10754977)

I wonder what is the bestway to upgrade to FC3 from FC2 ... Maybe just use apt and yum to upgrade :)

Re:Time to Upgrade (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755016)

Maybe just use apt and yum to upgrade
The recommeneded way to upgrade is to use installer (annaconda), some people have reported problems using yum or apt.

Re:Time to Upgrade (5, Informative)

Oxide (92607) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755025)

1) Download FC3 ISO images
2) Burn them to CDs
3) Put on the FC3 cd and click on upgrade

can't get any easier than that. I wouldnt want to use yum or apt because of the GCC upgrade.

Re:Time to Upgrade (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755069)

Single DVD iso is easier.

Re:Time to Upgrade (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755217)

Will that still upgrade from RH9 painlessly? How compatible is the upgrade really, if you've installed a few programs not using rpm/yum.

I'm using Fedora Legacy to keep my RH9 system up and running atm, but I guess I'll have to upgrade sooner or later anyway.

Re:Time to Upgrade (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755277)

3) Put on the FC3 cd and click on upgrade

I don't have X installed, you insensitive clod!

Re:Time to Upgrade (1)

saderax (718814) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755342)

Anyone got a list changes?

Putting it off.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10754982)

I've been putting off moving to Fedora after Redhat, but I guess this is a good time to start tinkering.

screenshots (-1, Redundant)

dnaumov (453672) | more than 9 years ago | (#10754986)

any mirrors, please?

Re:screenshots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755018)

any mirrors, please?

Don't sweat it - there wasn't much to see anyway. Just a few desktop shots with "about" boxes for Firefox et al, plus the guy's progress downloading it (!).

Re:screenshots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755221)

Nope, sorry. But you can borrow my comb if you like...

Re:screenshots (0, Troll)

LnxAddct (679316) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755321)

BitTorrent, the world is your mirror.
Regards,
Steve

who gives a fsck (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10754994)

It look like redrat 1.0 so why bother get w2k even win 3.0 was better

Heidelberg (1, Informative)

Jimmy The Tulip (770323) | more than 9 years ago | (#10754995)

I guess..first time some city name is used for linux version.. earlier windows and other M$ products were named after places eg. whistler for XP. and even tcp versions too like tahoe-reno.

Re:Heidelberg (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755060)

I guess..first time some city name is used for linux version..

No, FC1 was Cambridge and FC2 was Tettnang (also in Germany).

Re:Heidelberg (1)

Jimmy The Tulip (770323) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755112)

phewww.. i didnt know about that. there must be loads of german-city-name l0vers in FC naming group.

Competition (5, Interesting)

Donoho (788900) | more than 9 years ago | (#10754996)

Is it just me or are there enough high profile distros available now to keep them all pushing a little harder to stay current. I like it.

Re:Competition (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755286)

apparently, debian doesnt care about "competition"

So.... (5, Interesting)

_undan (804517) | more than 9 years ago | (#10754999)

Did they fix that little problem of the install process hosing drive geometry tables so that Windows won't load anymore?

IIRC, it was a kernel+parted issue (5, Informative)

wiredog (43288) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755073)

and wasn't just a Fedora issue. I hadn't heard about it, as I don't run Windows on my home machine, until I had to install it here at work. The main thing is to not let it futz with the partition tables at all during an install.

Re:IIRC, it was a kernel+parted issue (2, Insightful)

_undan (804517) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755367)

Yes, but for those of us without ready-made ext3 partitions, it's a problem. Can't install linux straight into empty space.

And using Knoppix/similar and QTParted (which i've not had any troubles with) is rather backwards. If people want linux to be taken seriously, they need to make it play nicely with the big boys until people are ready (or able -- until there's native GTK or QT versions of Flash, Photoshop and Illustrator, I can't switch to it full-time, and I refuse to use WINE and/or the Gimp) to switch to it permanantly.

MOD Parent up, and answer (0, Flamebait)

larsoncc (461660) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755080)

This is exactly what I'm waiting to hear. That stupid error has been a problem since what, FC 1? Earlier, like the betas?

It's been there long enough, at any rate. I hope it is solved.

Re:MOD Parent up, and answer (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755139)

It was a problem specific to fc2, has been fixed forever in fc2 updates and non-existant in fc3.

Not specific to FC2 (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755309)

> It was a problem specific to fc2

Not true. Mandrake 10 and Suse 9.1 also had this problem.

As one of the parents points out, it was an error with the parted application used by all three distros listed above.

Re:So.... (1)

Seth Finklestein (582901) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755099)

It worked for me. My FreeBSD partitions were completely unbroken after doing a Fedora GNU/Linux install.

And what about mp3? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755181)

Does it finally have support for play mp3s? It's pretty lame to have to search for some unsupported apt repo for media players that support mp3 and other basic standards.

Re:And what about mp3? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755242)

No, what's pretty lame is the patents on MP3. It's a little thing called this is a freaking litiguous world and they aren't going to ship something that might leave them in legal hell.

Idiot. Read the DOCS!

Re:And what about mp3? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755297)

You should be using oggs anyway, so it is a non-issue.

Re:So.... (1)

zero_config (753118) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755246)

I think they have solved it since it happened with one of the interim test versions and was later fixed in the next test version. Atleast the problem didn't re-occur on my system.

Oh, the irony! (0, Troll)

Seth Finklestein (582901) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755011)

Oh man! I just finished downloading Fedora Core 2 and installed it on all of my boxen. Don't tell me that I have to upgrade again!

Oh well, at least it's better than Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 With 60 Hotfixes Installed. Linux is so much stabler and securer.

Re:Oh, the irony! (4, Funny)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755262)

Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 With 60 Hotfixes Installed.

You need service pack 4, that's your problem.

I don't believe that either "stabler" or "securer" are words.

Enterprise? (4, Interesting)

Espectr0 (577637) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755014)

If fedora is the base for which RHEL gets developed, why do they keep releasing new versions? When do they decide which fedora release gets frozen to develop RHEL 4?

Re:Enterprise? (1)

j.blechert (726395) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755172)

why would they have to freeze fedora? they could just make a new branch out of it and stablize (and enhance) it in there for RHEL

Re:Enterprise? (4, Informative)

mattdm (1931) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755230)

If fedora is the base for which RHEL gets developed, why do they keep releasing new versions? When do they decide which fedora release gets frozen to develop RHEL 4?

What do you mean "why do they keep releasing new versions"? They keep releasing new versions because that's the point of having a distribution. Fedora Core partly exists to support RHEL, but it has its own life as well -- think Mozilla and Netscape, OpenOffice.org and StarOffice.

And "when do they decide"? Well, market realities mean they need a new RHEL release every certain amount of time -- probably every year and a half or so. So when that "when" approaches, I imagine they look to see what the most solid current Fedora base, and develop along with this.

In fact, RHEL 4 is being developed in parallel with FC3. See this LWN.net article [lwn.net] for more details.

Fedora moves too fast (2, Insightful)

gtrubetskoy (734033) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755030)


Great news.

The dissapointing thing is how often Fedora major releases come out. Makes the lives of those of us who have to keep up with it quite difficult. We just got used to FC2 and now FC3's out! :-)

That's the point (5, Insightful)

3770 (560838) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755085)

They are using you to test the system so that their enterprise customers will get the quality that they expect.

It is a really cheap way of doing quality control.

Re:That's the point (5, Informative)

LnxAddct (679316) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755295)

Pretty much any company that releases both consumer and business software uses the consumer software to test the waters and once it seems okay they make the fixes and sell it to businesses along with 5 year contracts. Thats just business, get over it. At least Red Hat isn't ripping off the consumer, the Fedora development model isn't too much different then it was with the RH desktop distro... but the community kept complaining that it wasn't free and Red Hat made very little money (something like 3 million dollars) from its desktop version so they released it to the community as Fedora. Now the consumer gets probably the highest quality linux distribution avaialable, along with a huge supporting community. I use Fedora because it is stable, but has the latest and greatest. It is the only distro that runs on my laptop, and it is the only distro that I have been able to reliably install on just about any machine. If you haven't had the pleasure of using it, I would suggest you do so.
Regards,
Steve

Re:That's the point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755303)

Hahahaha.

Oh, wait, you mean like *EVERY OTHER LINUX COMPANY*?

Gee, Mandrake does the same thing and no one complains. Lots of other distributions do the same thing and no one complains.

Grow up, they're providing a distribution for free to you, and they said they would be releasing it this often. Don't like that? Pick one of the other one gajillion distribution available.

I'm so sick of this pathetic whining about how they don't like distro X, fine, then use distro A-Z excluding X. Idiots.

Re:That's the point (1)

3770 (560838) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755355)

I was actually not complaining, just explaining how I think it works. I should have been more clear.

I don't think the original poster really is complaining either. I think he is having a lot of fun tinkering with his system and being excited about every new release.

I fall into that group. I used to use Debian Unstable just because I enjoyed trying out the latest and when something broke I would actually enjoy trying to get everything to work again.

If he really had a problem with the release cycle he would skip every other release.

Re:That's the point (4, Insightful)

cpn2000 (660758) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755349)

Thats one way to look at it.

The way I look at it is ...
- I get a free OS (beer & speech).
- Updates from a source I can trust (Redhat)
Now, if it does help RedHat get some things done for their paying corporate customers it seems like a fair deal to me.

Re:Fedora moves too fast (5, Informative)

tuffy (10202) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755089)

The dissapointing thing is how often Fedora major releases come out. Makes the lives of those of us who have to keep up with it quite difficult. We just got used to FC2 and now FC3's out! :-)

Six months. It's always six months. [redhat.com] You need to download them sooner, perhaps. ;)

Re:Fedora moves too fast (1)

IANAAC (692242) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755142)

They're all getting that way. I just ordered SUSE 9.2, and in my purchase history, I bought 9.1 in May, '04. Prior to that I bought 9.0 in October, '03. Seems like all the distros are shooting for six month release schedules.

Re:Fedora moves too fast (1)

mikrorechner (621077) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755151)

We just got used to FC2 and now FC3's out! :-)

You know, you can always change to Debian.
You would have a looooong time to get used to a release :-)

BTW, does anyone have recent news about when sarge will be released? It has been some time since DWN cited a concrete release date.

Re:Fedora moves too fast (4, Insightful)

pomakis (323200) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755282)

The dissapointing thing is how often Fedora major releases come out. Makes the lives of those of us who have to keep up with it quite difficult. We just got used to FC2 and now FC3's out! :-)

Then upgrade every two versions (e.g. RH9 to FC2 to FC4). That's what I do. There's no requirement for you to upgrade with every release that comes out.

I was just asking on the Firefox forums... (0, Flamebait)

skogs (628589) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755031)

the other day when Distros were going to start shipping with Firefox. Gosh I hate Konquorer and Netscape and whatever else ships usually. I know it hasn't shipped in the past because it was not a full fledged 1.0 product yet...but jee whiz I can only suffer so long. Really, do you expect morons(aka users) to install a separate browser that doesn't suck and doesn't take all day long to render a screen? This has been a long time in coming. Hopefully now that there seems to be some Distro-wide acceptance, use will spread to other distros. Kudos to the Firefox team. You guys make a great product. Keep it up.

Re:I was just asking on the Firefox forums... (-1, Redundant)

Ninjy (828167) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755167)

Though, mentioning Firefox... it makes me wonder. Why didn't they wait an extra few days to include the final 1.0 release of Firefox?

Re:I was just asking on the Firefox forums... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755226)

the other day when Distros were going to start shipping with Firefox.

SuSE Prof. 9.2 is also shipping Firefox (RC1).

Fedora Core Release 3 Released? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755032)

Isn't that as redundant as "Hot Water Heater"?

Re:Fedora Core Release 3 Released? (0)

The Other White Boy (626206) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755307)

somebody mod parent redundant.

*rimshot*

DVD iso is a convenient size (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755033)

Just appears to be a collection of the binary CD isos (no source).

Screenshots (-1, Redundant)

Gibberx (631490) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755035)

Are the screenshots /.ed already? I noticed that they're on a webforum, not Fedora's website.

Released? (5, Funny)

RealProgrammer (723725) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755039)

Whenever I read that an Open Source package has been "released", I think, "Wasn't it already Free?"

Re:Released? (1, Funny)

supergiovane (606385) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755141)

No, it wasn't.

Cordially yours,
RMS

Re:Released? (0, Redundant)

Plutor (2994) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755300)

Have you never used an open-source application before? More to the point, have you never used a beta release or a CVS build of an open-source application? Release might be a confusing name for it in this context, sure, but releases still have a strong place in OSS. Basically the developers are saying "here, this snapshot is Safe to Use." If there were never releases, you could never be sure you were using the same build as another person, or that you weren't grabbing the CVS HEAD in the middle of someone's four-part CVS update.

Relax (1)

RealProgrammer (723725) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755364)

It's just a joke.

If you aren't happy with the level of humor, you can have your money back.

Monitor Swarm Speed? (2, Interesting)

GnuPooh (696143) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755040)

I'm curious about how high the swarm speed with get for the torrent. How can we monitor it? The Duke site doesn't list those stats.

firefox pr1 (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755042)

Why didn't they wait 1 more day for the 1.0 final?

Re:firefox pr1 (1)

Ninjy (828167) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755243)

I'm not sure if one day could cover the required procedures of including and testing. Firefox 1 PR has been out for a bit now, and I'm assuming they've tested this in combination with other software. Nonetheless, I still wonder why they didn't wait a few more days -- especially with the launch compaign [full-page new york times ad] drawing attention to the final release.

Re:firefox pr1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755252)

So according to you Fedora Core's only purpose in {0,1}* is to run Firefox?

Re:firefox pr1 (4, Interesting)

Soko (17987) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755278)

Ummmm...

After the final of Firefox has actually been released, and been through the Fedora QA process, a simple "yum -y update" will get it for you.

Everyone has a schedule that they like to stick to.

Soko

Re:firefox pr1 (1, Interesting)

Zorilla (791636) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755326)

I still don't think it would have made it. The Linux versions of Firefox seems to be trailing behind the Windows releases as of late. My memory is fuzzy, but I think wasn't able to upgrade to 1.0PR on Linux until a couple weeks later than I did on Windows.

Unless they're planning a synchonized release of the binaries or something for both Windows and Linux.

Question (-1, Offtopic)

bunburyist (664958) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755055)

Yo linux-ppl! I got a question, With fedora core 3 goodness out, would you guys recommend it above SuSe?? SuSe was nice, but had some buggy GUI problems, I dunno if thats related to KDE specifically or to SuSe in general, but what advantages/disadvantages does fedora have compared to SuSe? Or should i grab a copy of this novell thing that was released earlier today? What should the un-informed do!!!?! hahaha thanx.

Re:Question (0, Troll)

a3217055 (768293) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755229)

Fedora Core is like a normal Car. A four door family sedan. Suse is a sports car inside a family sedan. Suse also has nicer kernels. Redhat Kernels are just ...

Re:Question (2, Funny)

Misch (158807) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755332)

Suse is a sports car inside a family sedan. Suse also has nicer kernels. Redhat Kernels are just ...

Just what? Cup holders?

Re:Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755281)

Simple. Just install Windows XP with service pack 2.

All fair and good but... (-1, Redundant)

fulgan (116418) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755064)

...does it finally address the problem when it will sometime send your partition table to nevereverland at install ? Because without an explicit "yes, we fixed it and it will never happen again" commitment, Fedora is never comming near any of my HDs again.

Re:All fair and good but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755101)

This problem wasn't only confined to Fedora (although I never saw it myself). So quit your ad hominems.

Fedora? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755074)

I sure hope he wasn't running Fedora. How long did it last, 2min 3 maybe?

Screenshots? (5, Insightful)

Jukashi (240273) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755087)

Whats with all these screenshots for distro releases - what exactly are people looking at? All I see is gnome or kde that could be running on anything. Are the distro-specific wallpapers that intresting?

Fedora Core 3 Thoughts (5, Interesting)

jsav40 (614902) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755104)

I had all three test versions of FC3 running and am very much looking forward to installing the release version.

Inpressions from the test releases

-selinux is enabled by default & *just works*
-firefox (finally) is included in Fedora Core proper
-automounting bahavior of usb keys, external HDDs etc. is greatly improved
-Totem has been added
-Yum has been greatly improved (faster)
-works well on the two laptops I tested it on
(IBM T20, CPQ Armada M700
-Better wifi support built in

I use Windows.... (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755113)

... you insensitive clod!

All insensetive clod jokes.. (1)

shredluc (805905) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755350)

are just karma boosters, you insensitve clod!

why is it necessary to post screenshots? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755117)

when most of the time more or less of all linux distributions look the same,if they are all customized the same. And here on Slashdot I'm sure everyone already know what things look like in almost all the different window managers.

Despite this, we still decide to slashdot their screenies site!

Re:why is it necessary to post screenshots? (1)

duncan (16437) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755256)

Pretty Colors.

Re:why is it necessary to post screenshots? (1)

Ninjy (828167) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755291)

Think about it. Most of us geeks know what things look like, and we might or might not be arsed to rea about all the changes. Nonetheless, the casual Windows user would not know a single thing about the packages mentioned in the 'updated' lists. As they say, a screenshot says a thousand words...

Re:why is it necessary to post screenshots? (0)

bcmm (768152) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755320)

And you noticed this/minded why?
C'mon, you were looking at screenshots too, weren't you?

Re:why is it necessary to post screenshots? (1)

obsid1an (665888) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755351)

The real question is why would someone post a link to screenshots on /. Obviously no one is going to be seeing them anyways after about 15 seconds of the article going live (if that long).

Heidelberg? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755126)

The blurb says that Heidelberg, 2.6.9-1.667 kernel, Firefox are included. What is Heidelberg? I've never heard of it before.

Re:Heidelberg? (4, Informative)

afd8856 (700296) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755255)

The name of a German city. Insightful, huh? :-) Actually, it's Fedora 3' release name.

Firewire Support? (3, Interesting)

leinhos (143965) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755132)

Can anyone comment on the level of Firewire support in FC3? I tried to get FW working with FC2, but eventually gave up...

Question: (2, Interesting)

RLiegh (247921) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755148)

Is there a way to do a network install of fedora? I'm not sure why, but every cd I download is corrupted and unusable; so installing from cd is pointless for me.

Thanx. :)

Re:Question: (4, Informative)

A Boy and His Blob (772370) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755272)

Yes, you can either download the CD and use it to boot, then do a network install through an FTP or HTTP server (just make sure you find a server before booting because it doesn't give you a list or anything). If you can't even get the CD to boot and you already are running Linux just mount the iso as a "virtual drive." This is how I installed mine. [216.239.41.104]

Bittorrent (1)

bcmm (768152) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755360)

Yeah, you can network install.
FTP/HTTP always seem to corrupt large files. I have never had a broken ISO (i.e. doesn't match MD5 checksum) via bittorrent, because it has built-in checking of each chunk.

Can I install this on PPC? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755160)

I have an old B&W and would love to install this on it (without paying the yellodog linux tax). Is this possible?

ACPI suspend support (1)

pyros (61399) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755173)

What kind of default ACPI scripts do they have, especially for laptops? I'm struggling to get ACPI going on my Inspiron 2600, and a distro that has this working with no fuss would really be something (already tried the liveCD of suse, which surprisingly has the ACPI control panels in it, it works the same as ubuntu so far). Does the kernel have any suspend-to-disk patches enabled/built by default?

How it compares to Ubuntu? (1, Interesting)

Koyaanisqatsi (581196) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755184)

Anyone care to explain how it fares againt http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ [ubuntulinux.org] ?

I've been wanting to try a linux desktop for a while and I had a mixed opinion with Fedora Core 1, not I'm not sure wich one of the two to pick - since I don't have that much time to commit, I can't try both and compare ...

Re:How it compares to Ubuntu? (1)

jsav40 (614902) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755301)

I installed ubuntu on the same laptop I was running fedora core 3 test 3 on (IBM T20) Core 3 test 3 ran fine. Ubuntu was a little iffy.
-battery applet did not work
-system would freez hard after 1/2 hour or so of use
-etc...
I could have looked @ ubuntus bug tracker and possibly rectified these but would much rather go with a distro that justworks(tm). YMMV, ubuntu does look promising but still requires more attention/tweaks than I'd like to give my day-to-day OS.

when will we have FC4? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755192)

could it be next week because I'm thinking these guys are a bit too slow. I'd like them to move the pace up a bit that way I really don't have time to get used to their distro before the next comes out.

Re:when will we have FC4? (1)

DrWhizBang (5333) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755299)

6 months. Hardy har - but you forgot the <sarcasm> tags

Fedora (1, Interesting)

digitaltraveller (167469) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755198)

How do you apt-get dist upgrade with Fedora? --Don't ask.

Wierd since, Fedora decided to copy Debian's mistaken policy of offering three software troves called stable,testing and unstable.

When are they going to learn, users want ONE package tree, with the ability to migrate between versions and patches.

SURE, you'll say. Fedora is just Red Hat's loss leader product to wedge people into RHEL.

But wait until someone who has a superior understanding of the marketplace comes along and evaporates RH's marketshare. Then they will wish they'd had a better view of the market than 'per-ass proprietary enterprise linux'.

Otherwise a solid release from the folks at RH. Release Notes [redhat.com] .

You bastards!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755211)

... you slashdotted all of us.

I'm not getting anything out of the torrent at the moment!

Linux Screenshots (4, Insightful)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755219)

It's always a fancy desktop with cute icons, a shot of OpenOffice, one of GIMP, and then the rest are all of a thousand xterms opened up.

They end up showcasing the lack of good linux desktop applications, it's pretty funny if you're not a zealot.

Re:Linux Screenshots (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755357)

ok retard.

we are sick of your inability to think.

Try actually LOOKING for once in your life and please stop worshipping your lord Ballmer and Gates, they are sick of you kissing their asses at every turn.

Mirror in Europe (5, Informative)

Yenya (12004) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755265)

Mirror whore mode on:


If you are in Europe and looking for a fast mirror, try this one [linux.cz] (i386; x86_64 is here [linux.cz] ).
80 minutes after the release and my bandwidth and HDD speed is still not maxed out ...


(IAAAOTS - I am an administrator of this server).

Vector Graphics in Linux. (before Windows, btw) (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10755314)

You want to know my favorite "brand new thing" with Gnome 2.8?

Vector-based graphics games like solitare. I know it's a small thing, but it's sooo purty.

Well for a card game. It's a small thing, but it's going to be cool once people start porting things wholesale over to vector graphics once it gets established.

Imagine: No more conflict between resolution/text size/desktop space.

Also for the programmers in here check out the new support for dbus and HAL in Gnome. Shadows of things to come in future revisions.

It's not a huge difference over 2.6, but it's a nice improvement with lots and lots of little refinements.

kernel.org stats (4, Informative)

hpa (7948) | more than 9 years ago | (#10755322)

From this morning...

570 Mbit/s (about 540 Mbit/s of which are mirrors.kernel.org, i.e. mostly Fedora); load average 232.44.

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