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Excellent (0)

Compact Dick (518888) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763787)

About time they hit down on those causing real grief.

Re:Excellent (-1, Troll)

ComaVN (325750) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763806)

419 scams are the montary equivalent of survival of the fittest.

Anyone who falls for this deserves to be stripped of all assets.

Re:Excellent (0, Troll)

fingerfucker (740769) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763909)

Damn, I should have checked that "post anonymously" box

You 'should have', but you are carma-whoring, so you didn't.

No no, *this* is karma whoring (5, Funny)

blowdart (31458) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764231)

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By virtue of my position as editor I am free to ignore any emails pointing out duplicate posts but I cannot acquire the karma points in my name. I am therefore looking for an overseas partner into whose 0wn3d windoze box we can transfer this karama, to a grand total of SDK1024 (ONE THOUSAND AND TWENTY FOUR slashdot karma). I are writing this email as I am willing to share the karma points with you, 20% for you, the account owner, 70% for us, 10% to bribe people to shut up about duplicate posts.

Please note this transaction is 100% safe as we will use paypal and we hope to commence the transfer latest 7 banking days after the next topic which attacks Microsoft without ever reading the links in the topic.

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Re:Excellent (1)

BottleCup (691335) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763931)

"There's a lot of gullible people out there that are very vulnerable and they think that this is the pot at the end of the rainbow," she said.

Everybody sing along now...

Someday we'll find it
the rainbow connection
the lovers
the spammers
and mee...

Re:Excellent (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10764096)

Bah! I posted this story 2 days ago...

Re:Excellent (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10764286)

Prove it. You're just trying to discredit such a lovely site. I hope the Devil punishes you, you Liberal asshat!

Interesting... (5, Insightful)

cfalcon (779563) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763794)

How come when they finally get busted, it's not the stereotypical sleazeball you hope for? Life would be easy if it were 1 dimensional. Oh well, still good to see crime being punished.

Re:Interesting... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763825)

How people want life to be easy when it is not.

You would actually hope for a sleazeball?! Its that kind of thinking that make all Arabs terrorists, all programmers basement dwelling trolls, and all righteous policies reasonable.

After all your either with us or against us!

Re:Interesting... (2, Insightful)

cfalcon (779563) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763948)

Yes, you would hope that a person running a scam is in all ways sleazy. While this is to some extent simplistic thinking, it's not *at all* the steretyping you mention.

Wishing that people behave in consistent ways is not wishing that they lived up to stereotypes. Wishing that a person who engages in horrible scams is the kind of person who engages in *OTHER* morally questionable activity is wishing for consistency. It the equivalent of wishing that all Arabs are at least partially of Arabic descent, and that all programmers know how to program.

It is unrelated to preconceptions society may have.

The New World Law of Godwin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10764181)

And I was wondering how long till somebody mentions Bush's foreign policy...

Re:Interesting... (4, Insightful)

frovingslosh (582462) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763827)

So he's a "disability pensioner", so what? Why assume he's not a sleazeball? Heck, I'm assuming his "disability" is a scam too.

Re:Interesting... (5, Informative)

harrisben (823301) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763942)

Being on a disability pension doesn't necessarily dicatate the degree of your disability in Australia. It could be anything from having a bad back (can't do any lifting) all the way to quadraplegia (definitely can't do any lifting). I'm assuming this guy was of the 'bad back' kind.

Re:Interesting... (1)

Basehart (633304) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764000)

What about the people who pretended to charge a fake paypal account of mine $175 - should they get 9 yrs too?

Re:Interesting... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10764087)

Great to see you assume he's got a bad back.

Re:Interesting... (1)

ozmanjusri (601766) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764008)

Why assume he's not a sleazeball? Heck, I'm assuming his "disability" is a scam too.

His disability is schizophrenia so it's not likely to be a scam and it certainly won't affect his sleazeball status.

Re:Interesting... (5, Informative)

Gonzman2000 (829312) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764019)

In Australia you can be on a disability pension for something like back pain, it doesen't have to be so severe you can't move or are really disabled in any way. This guy could be a regular joe with a back problem, so not particular care should have gone into mention of "disabiliy pensioner"

Re:Interesting... (1)

rjshields (719665) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764123)

Surely that should be disabled pensioner, not disability pensioner. Ahh well, there's no accounting for grammar on /. stories.

Re:Interesting... (2, Informative)

stor (146442) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764162)

Surely that should be disabled pensioner, not disability pensioner. Ahh well, there's no accounting for grammar on /. stories.

No no, it's right the way it is.

A "disability pensioner" is someone who receives a pension due to their disability.

"Disabled pensioner" would be someone who receives a pension due to their age and just happens to be disabled.

Cheers
Stor

Now there is hope (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763802)

I hope this guy gets anally raped in jail. And then slit open like a pig.

Re:Now there is hope (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763813)

I think his colostomy bag might scare them off....

Regards,
g@z.

Re:Now there is hope (-1, Flamebait)

james_34567 (826329) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763862)

nah! don't give him a quick exit, let him get raped everyday for the lenght of his term, unless he starts to enjoy that. if he does begin to enjoy the daily rape, then slit the pig

Re:Now there is hope (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763915)

I've got a good mind to pay him a visit, get him alone in a room and stomp his fucken face in. Fucking spammers. FUCK

tips needed (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763803)

Has anyone ever used vapor bros vapir "herbal" vaporizor? I think its a total waste of herb. Maybe I'm missing something? What temp should I set it at? For how long?

Help me slashdotters.

Re:tips needed (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763858)

Well, it's a new way not to smoke, based on the fusion between nature and technology.

Delfa, show him.

Re:tips needed (0, Offtopic)

VocabularyNazi (816686) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763924)

if you're smoking herbs in the damn thing, no wonder you ain't getting high from it, you dipshit. try smoking marijuana and use a fucking one-hitter if you're so goddamned concerned about not wasting weed.

Phew! (-1)

billysk8r (827793) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763804)

It makes me happy to see people facing consequences for what turns my mailboxes into clutter-ridden junk-piles, even if none of what this particular guy sent out ever reached me. by the way, did i get 1st post?!

Re:Phew! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763901)

by the way, did i get 1st post?!
No. You fail it.

Here's my reply to those things (5, Funny)

BrianGa (536442) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763809)

I modify the namea/dates/amounts/etc, and fire this off:

Dear DR.ONORIODE BOBOLO,

It is so good to hear from a fellow-countryman, having been raised and lived for many years in our most beautiful homeland, Nigeria. I want to send you my sincere thanks and gratitude for your kind offer of USD$25,000.000.00 (TWENTY FIVE MILLION UNITED STATE DOLLARS) for taking part in this funds transfer transaction.

However, I am a businessman too, and I make my living transferring large sums of money from and to my friends, relatives, and business associates in Nigeria. Therefore, I know that you would agree, that in order to participate in this wonderful opportunity, I must have an advance monetary commitment from you -- a good faith gesture on your part -- in order to proceed.

Therefore, I ask that you deposit just 10% ($2,500,000) of the $25M into my PayPal account as an indication that you truly possess the funds and are actually authorized to release them. Using the online PayPal service is a very convenient and secure way to transfer funds. All you need do is access the PayPal web site -- http://www.paypal.com -- open a PayPal account, deposit the funds into your new account, and then transfer the money into my existing account, which has already been set up to receive the $25M.

You only need my email address, which you already have, to transfer the funds into my account. Therefore, the complete safety of your account, as well as mine, is guaranteed and insured unconditionally. You have asked that this matter be handled with the strictest confidentiality, and I will agree to that condition, provided that the transfer takes place in a reasonable period of time, say by Friday, 5 October.

If the money has not been received by that time, I must assume that you are not making a legitimate offer, and that you might be someone other than who you say you are -- although I can tell by the exceptional language of your email, that is probably not the case. However, if that is the case, then I will be forced to embark upon a most unpleasant course of action that I would prefer not to undertake.

Because I have so many loyal friends in the Government of Nigeria and the Military, and many close ties within the Security Service where you work, it would be quite easy to locate your office and your home, as well as learn the identities of your friends and relatives.

I truly don't believe that you would want to jeopardize their health and well-being, and your own future. I will access my PayPal account on next Saturday to verify that your good-faith payment has been made. Once that takes place, we can move forward with the final transfer.

I trust that you will not disappoint me in this matter, since the consequences for non-compliance could be quite severe. I look forward with great anticipation to working with you.

Yours faithfully,

Issa Gidada, JD, MMB,
President & CEO
U.S./Nigeria Funds Transfer Organization
Beverly Hills, CA

Re:Here's my reply to those things (1)

Associate (317603) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763841)

I'd love to see any replies you've gotten.

As for the crip that did this in AU, as I always say, sometimes you gotta push the old lady down the stairs. Remember, you're only protecting them from the terrible secret of space.

Re:Here's my reply to those things (4, Insightful)

ravenspear (756059) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763842)

Asking them to give you money through Paypal is a bad idea. These people have a buttload of stolen credit cards and that's what they will use. Ultimately all (or almost all) of it will be charged back by the card owners and removed from your account by Paypal's fraud department.

Don't do it. It would only result in more grief for everyone involved.

Re:Here's my reply to those things (1)

shepd (155729) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764158)

If it's a stolen credit card, better it wastes a few minutes of a Paypal plebeians' time than result in unpaid stolen merchandise from a store before the (likely idiot) with the stolen credit card notices.

Just my 2 cents on the issue, of course.

MOD PARENT UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763849)

Simply awesome!

Re:Here's my reply to those things (2, Insightful)

icekillis (777986) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763855)

Hah! They won't even care to reply to a direct question such as: "Yes, but can I have the info faxed?" Or anything else. they will just resend you the email, acting as if they cant read at all. They are not smart at all, they are just bulk mailing everyone,when they finaly get some of the data they just report it to smarter people who make all the money.

Protecting the gullible? (4, Interesting)

mind21_98 (18647) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763811)

Although scammers are nasty creatures, shouldn't people know better than to send money to pay for something they supposedly won? This isn't a troll; I'm totally serious. Are people not taught common sense and critical thinking skills? In any case, I'm glad this person's going to jail.

Common sense? Critical thinking? (5, Funny)

muntumbomoklik (806936) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763819)

You followed the election last week, didn't you?

Re:Common sense? Critical thinking? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763929)

that just proves people didnt fall for the bigger loser.
kerry lost, so less than a majority of people are total retards in the US (you didnt think he would actually win did you?)

lighten up... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763972)

it was a joke.

Re:Common sense? Critical thinking? (1, Offtopic)

Arker (91948) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764116)

Actually, if you really want to go there, well over 90% of voters chose either Kerry or Bush one, so there you go. Grandparents point is made. If there is intelligent life in these parts, it's certainly not very common.

Re:Protecting the gullible? (1)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763831)

You are gullible for thinking people are smart enough to not be made a fool. So, wanna send me some money? hehe, seriously though, if people were not protected from themselves, they would turn into the middle east.

Racist! (1, Troll)

DrInequality (521068) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764070)

if people were not protected from themselves, they would turn into the middle east.

Now that's plain racist.

Try "if people were not protected from themselves, they would turn into the USA" on for size.

Next try some tolerance...

Re:Protecting the gullible? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763837)

If the general masses possessed some criticial thinking skills and weren't so gullible, then Bush wouldn't have gotten elected by a long-shot.

Re:Protecting the gullible? (2, Funny)

Zork the Almighty (599344) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763853)

I hear he'll give you TEN MILLION US DOLLARS if you help him get early parole.

Re:Protecting the gullible? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763988)

Where do I send the check?

Re:Protecting the gullible? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763860)

One of the wonders of bulk e-mail is that you can send out huge numbers of 419 solicitations. Even if only one person in a million falls for the scam, you're onto a winner.

Re:Protecting the gullible? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10764058)

Are people not taught common sense and critical thinking skills?
If they were, the 419 scam wouldn't work. It clearly works though, so apparently they arent.

Re:Protecting the gullible? (4, Interesting)

jesterzog (189797) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764079)

Although scammers are nasty creatures, shouldn't people know better than to send money to pay for something they supposedly won? This isn't a troll; I'm totally serious. Are people not taught common sense and critical thinking skills?

Well yeah, in an ideal world.

There are lots of people who are just a bit thick, but to be fair there are also a lot of people out there who are incredibly desperate, probably beyond what the majority of slashdot users could conceive of, and simply aren't quite thinking straight.

From what I understand (I'm not an expert but I've read a little), the people who these scammers appeal to often aren't the people who are simply greedy. They're the people who've been told that they need a $100,000 payment on their home within a month or they and their kids will be kicked out of the home that's been in their family for generations.

Maybe they've been trying to save money and they're malnourished, or perhaps they're getting over an illness that cost a lot of money to treat. (Perhaps they desperately need money to treat it.) It's the same sort of thing as the loner or widower who's sitting at home feeling lonely, and after three months of happiness through online chit-chat, decides to send thousands of dollars to an internet "girlfriend" in another country so she can fly there to say hello, only to have "her" never contact him again.

It's easy to turn around and say that people were stupid to not be careful and give away their life savings to a stranger. But at the end of the day there are still victims and the scammar's still a con artist who defrauded people and often wrecked their lives many times more than they might've been already. If you really feel as if you have have nowhere else to go and the world seems to be falling down around you, it can sometimes illogically seem reasonable to take up an offer like this against any real common sense.

I'm not trying to suggest that everyone who responds to these things is in the same position. Some, perhaps many, probably are just greedy and/or silly, although without meeting them I wouldn't want to pinpoint who. I do think it's short-sighted to simply say that all of these people are obviously stupid, without actually looking at the situation. This is nothing against you personally, but that tends to be the general tone on slashdot and I don't think it's very fair.

Re:Protecting the gullible? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10764133)

...shouldn't people know better than to send money to pay for something they supposedly won?

Behold, the gap between "should be" and "is".

Are people not taught common sense and critical thinking skills?

Just for the heck, I'm going to take that rhetorical question as an actual inquiry.

On the count of "common sense", presumably such a thing isn't taught anywhere. It's supposed to be innate, right? And while "common sense" may tell you there is no chance you've won an overseas lottery that you've never entered, don't underestimate the power of greed and wishful thinking, which tend to be more common and more motivating than "common sense".

On the count of "critical thinking skills", my experience is that the local university teaches a 100-level philosophy unit on the subject, but I've yet to find it anywhere outside a philosophy department. I think most educators erroneously assume that it's a part of "common sense". Admittedly it is, to some extent, but the average person will readily fall for certain logical fallacies (both formal and informal) without additional training in critical thinking.

As a matter of idle curiosity, what is it about 419 scams that makes you think the victims need better critical thinking skills? Does the typical 419 scam contain subtle sophistries? I'd have said they mostly contain whopping great lies, a liberal dose of appeal-to-greed, and perhaps a little garnish of emotionalism so that the victim's conscience may take refuge in the fact that they're actually helping a poor benighted widow, not slavering like a loon at the prospect of riches beyond the dreams of avarice. On the other hand, I suppose that a good (general) course in critical thinking would include learning to identify such rhetorical devices.

Re:Protecting the gullible? (1)

techwolf (26278) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764200)

Are people not taught common sense and critical thinking skills?

Common sense just isn't very common anymore.

Let me take this great opportunity to inform you.. (3, Funny)

httpamphibio.us (579491) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763816)

With due respect,trust and humanity,I write this letterto you seeking your help and assistance,though its difficult since we have not met before.I got your address from the SOUTH AFRICA INFORMATION EXCHANGE (S.A.I.E)regarding your business profile and sincerity.I believe that you are capable and reliable in handling this urgent international transaction of this sort.

I am MR.RUFUS MUKHENZE,the first and only son of COMRADE.BORDER D.MUKHENZE,the Zimbabwean former Minister for Youth & Gender Equality who is also a businessman and politician,in the Zimbabwean political arena.My father was the famous politician who stood firm against President Mugabes idea of continuous fight in Democratic Republic of Congo and my father also stood against the seizure of white owned farms and the distribution of it to the blacks without Compesiation to the white owners.Before my father's death, in his "WILL"he specifically drew my attention to this sum of US$21,320Million,(TWENTY ONE MILLION,THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND UNITED STATE DOLLAR)which he deposited in a safe box of a private security company in south Africa,INFACT MY FATHER SAID IN HIS WILL AND QUOTE:-

"MY beloved son,I wish to draw your attention to the sum of US$21,320,000.00(TWENTY ONE MILLION,THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND UNITED STATE DOLLAR), which I deposited in a box with a security company in Johannesburg,South Africa. Incase of my absence on earth caused by death,only you should solicit for reliable foreign partner to assist you to transfer this money out of south Africa for investment purpose.I deposited the money in your name and it can be claimed by you alone with the deposit code.Your mother has all the document.Take good care of your mother and
sister

From the above,you will understand that the lives and future of my family depends on this money,I will be very grateful if you can assist us,we are
now living in South Africa as political asylum seekers and the financial laws of south Africa does not allow asylum seeker certain financial rights to such huge amount of money.In view of this,I cannot invest this money here in south africa,hence I am asking you to assist me transfer this money out of south africa for investment purpose.

For your efforts,am prepared to offer you 25%of the total fund, while 5%will be set aside for local and international expenses and 70%will be kept by my family and me.All I want you to do is to furnish me with your entire personal phone and fax numbers for easy communication. Note that this transaction is 100% Risk free and absolutely confidential.

Looking forward hearing from you.

Yours Faithfully
MR. RUFUS MUKHENZE

fuzzy math (0)

frovingslosh (582462) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763817)

From the article: ....today sentenced the disability pensioner to a maximum of five years and three months in jail, with a non-parole period of four years and four months.

and later: Marinellis will first be eligible for parole in February 2008.

Do they let just anyone in Australia do the reporting?

Re:fuzzy math (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763845)

Presumably he's already spent some time in jail while he was awaiting trial.

Re:fuzzy math (1)

frovingslosh (582462) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763874)

We should just assume that, even when it wasn't stated in the article? Was it so likely that a disability pensioner would be in jail before ever being convicted for something no one had yet received jail time for? Were they concerned that this disability pensioner was going to skip out on them?

Re:fuzzy math (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763916)

You mean the disability pensioner who claimed "I have 220 African brothers worldwide" and was able to scam millions from people? Yeah, I can't imagine why they would think this guy would be a flight risk.

Re:fuzzy math (1)

Trozy (666364) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763933)

Was it so likely that a disability pensioner would be in jail before ever being convicted for something no one had yet received jail time for? Were they concerned that this disability pensioner was going to skip out on them?

That would depend on wheather or not he was scamming his disability pension.

Re:fuzzy math (1)

VocabularyNazi (816686) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763950)

are you that naive as to think he wouldn't leave town ? just because the man is on a disability pension doesn't mean he has a disability to disappear.

Re:fuzzy math (1)

rking (32070) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763986)

Was it so likely that a disability pensioner would be in jail before ever being convicted for something no one had yet received jail time for?

This is not the first time someone has been sent to jail for fraud.

Re:fuzzy math (5, Insightful)

Marlor (643698) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764045)

Presumably he's already spent some time in jail while he was awaiting trial.

He has been in jail since October 2003 (according to The Register). If there is a significant risk that an alleged criminal will flee the country, then it is standard practice to deny bail. Someone who claims to have "African Brothers" throughout the world who will help him flee probably fits this description.

There is more information here [theregister.co.uk].

Re:fuzzy math (1)

KiloByte (825081) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763861)

The trial might have taken quite a while...

I know that Australia is not Poland and is at least a bit civilized, but if our judges often do 10-15 years for some simple criminal cases (well, that's usually when there is a politician involved), 13 months here is not that much.

Re:fuzzy math (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763863)

From the article: ....today sentenced the disability pensioner to a maximum of five years and three months in jail, with a non-parole period of four years and four months.
and later: Marinellis will first be eligible for parole in February 2008.

Do they let just anyone in Australia do the reporting?
It is generally a good idea to know what you're talking about before you mock other people.

He was arrested in October of 2003, and has spent most of the time between then and now in jail. October 2003 and Febuary 2008 are about 4 years 4 months apart. It isn't that difficult, now is it? This took me all of 30 seconds to find out using Google.

Re:fuzzy math (4, Informative)

iamplasma (189832) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763867)

When calculating prison sentences, if the person has already been held on remand prior to and during trial then that time will be considered part of their punishment. While admittedly one year does seem an exceptionally long time, it's at least a possibility that he has been in remand that long, and that's why he'll be eligible for parole at that time.

"disability pensioner" (4, Insightful)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763818)

How disabled? If he's one of those "disabled" people that you see up on the roof fixing tiles despite a "bad back", then this is no huge surprise. If we're talking wheelchair then I officially lament how times have changed. It used to be that wheelchair-bound geeks ran the local BBS.

Re:"disability pensioner" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763902)

How disabled? If he's one of those "disabled" people that you see up on the roof fixing tiles despite a "bad back", then this is no huge surprise.
Can I assume that because you are able to judge what a back problem would stop someone from doing without having any other information on the circumstance that you have some sort of training that is more advanced then the dozen or doctors I've talked to about back injuries? Or should I just assume that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

It is next to impossible to tell what an injury will/won't prevent someone from doing. I myself have back problems that wouldn't stop me from doing something like carrying 80lbs worth of cement or working on a ladder, however make me touch my toes and I'll probably be in a hospital that night. On a similar sort of thing, I know someone who used to work for the state police, and got hit by a drunk driver while on his motorcycle, it screwed him up to the point where he still can't ride the thing (this was ~7 years ago mind you), but he is afraid to do anything else because pricks like you will go accuse him of lieing about his condition when you don't know squat about what his condition actually is.

Re:"disability pensioner" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10764121)

Well, the idea is that if you are able to fix a roof, or do something else that people are willing to pay money for, then why are you living on taxpayer's expense?

Re:"disability pensioner" (2, Interesting)

xixax (44677) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763907)

You do not have to be in a wheelchair to collect the disability pension here. It's quite likely he has something like arthritis that makes it difficult for him to work full time. Unless it's a really obvious disability, they usually keep at you to prove you really are disabled.

A friend of mine was on a disability pension because he is photo-sensitive. They dumped him off said pension the moment he landed a job, and wouldn't let him back on when he found that he could do the work (because he was photo sensitive).

And even if he is in a wheelchair, I'm sure the judge would have taken that into consideration in his decision (I don't know how well our gaols are set up for sheelchair access).

Xix.

Re:"disability pensioner" (1)

xixax (44677) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763911)

when he found that he could do the work

couldn't! Doh! Murphy strikes.

punishment (3, Funny)

adamruck (638131) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763829)

Make them work for dell customer support for the rest of there lives.

Re:punishment (1)

james_34567 (826329) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763877)

you're too kind, make them work at Microsoft's customer service... wait a minute, ms doesn't do customer service... yeah, give them to dell!

What (-1, Troll)

mikefe (98074) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763856)

Next they'll have a scammer that is stuck in a wheel chair.

Maybe we should just give his brakes to the two he defrauded the most and then push him down a hilly street.

Die chair boy die!!!

One down... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763864)

418 to go.

Re:One down... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763910)

you suck

Always must mention when the topic of 419 comes up (4, Informative)

ChiralSoftware (743411) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763900)

419 Eater [419eater.com] is one of the funniest sites on the net. Check it out when you need a good laugh.

Re:Always must mention when the topic of 419 comes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10763944)

In fact this is one of the funniest MP3s I've ever heard, of an actual 419 scammer calling an actual victim: http://419eater.com/images/audio/martins_jide/mart ins_jide_191004b.mp3

Where's my pot (2, Funny)

ET_Fleshy (829048) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763905)

"There's a lot of gullible people out there that are very vulnerable and they think that this is the pot at the end of the rainbow"
Don't those people know that pots of gold are always guarded by trixy leprechauns who'll con you out of your own money to add to the pot?

Re:Where's my pot (5, Funny)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764052)

Don't those people know that pots of gold are always guarded by trixy leprechauns. . .

No, no, no. Trix are guarded by kids. Lucky Charms are guarded by leprechauns.

KFG

OT: Red vs Blue (3, Funny)

Bega (684994) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763947)

Come to think of the NYC Video Festival Red vs Blue extra.

- Hi, I am Nigerian royalty, and I want you to send me money. Please disregard the fact that I can't spell Nigeria or royalty.

Greed (4, Interesting)

nate nice (672391) | more than 9 years ago | (#10763979)

Don't be consumed by greed. Although people taken by this scam are indeed victims, I have trouble feeling really bad for them. They thought they could get something for free, with no work, effort or percieved risk and they end up paying for it. Life teaches really hard lessons if you don't take notes before hand. Either way, you will learn these lessons. Just hope you are a good student so you don't have to be taught by example.

Ideas for frustrating "419" scammers (2, Interesting)

Serious Simon (701084) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764003)

I am quite annoyed by the stream of scam emails I receive, and always forward them to abuse@ of the e-mail accounts provider that the scammers use (mostly free mailboxes).

Hopefully these accounts will then be shut down before any potential victim can respond. The fact that the scammers often use a different email address in their follow-up communication indicates that these accounts are indeed often short lived.

I have thought of mail bombing these accounts until they are shut down, preferably with legit looking bogus responses that the scammers have to read one by one, wasting their time and hopefully having them pay for extra online time in their Lagos cybercafe. It would help if each of you would send a response on any scam e-mail you receive (don't use your regular email account).

Frankly I don't have the time and the talent for elaborate scambaiting (http://www.419eater.com/html/joe_eboh.htm is hilarious!), but I am interested in any other simple but efficient ideas for frustrating these scambags.

Re:Ideas for frustrating "419" scammers (1)

Fuzzums (250400) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764150)

1) the fun with 419 spammers is their reply address has to be real.
2) enough gmail invites left for various purposes
3) have fun with a 419
4) no profit ;)

Re:Ideas for frustrating "419" scammers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10764243)

I always forward those that get past my filters to all responsible abuse addresses. But unless the account is at hotmail, yahoo or one of the thousands of domains hosted by mail.com, it is unlikely that anything happens. Often there is a standard reply, sometimes stating why they feel they are not responsible, but more often the abuse@ address just does not exist or the mailbox is full.
When I get repeated junk from domains that apparently do not handle abuse, I just block the entire domain.
But still those clueless Nigerians don't seem to understand I am not interested, and sending me their scam is a risk to their own account.

Lately they seem to have switched from large webmail providers like yahoo to websites running "PHPnuke". Those are often run by amateurs, are not secure, and never provide an abuse address.
Fortunately, this mail is very easy to filter.
(many clues in both headers and tagline indicate the mail was sent via such a service)

emails on sale at MercadoLibre (eBay) (3, Interesting)

pmagsa (828320) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764051)

The war on spam is a very tough one. I have found that there are some email databases on sale at MercadoLibre (eBay branch for Latin America). Vendors also offer software for capturing emails on the Internet and for sending (up to 30000 emails per hour). You may see my finding here: http://abundando.blogspot.com/2004/11/se-lucran-eb ay-y-mercadolibre-con-el.html [blogspot.com] I'm sorry guys. Post is written in Spanish.

Good $ in this scamming, then... (1)

rolling_or_jaded (645622) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764142)

...I'm surprised people are _that_ dumb.

From a New Zealand Herald article [nzherald.co.nz]:

Although described in court as a church-going disability pensioner and a diagnosed schizophrenic who cared for his ailing parents, police said his assets included a A$970,000 house and seven other properties in New South Wales, five cars, and an office complex in the British city of Nottingham.

Seems this guy (Nick Marinellis) wasn't real smart though...

Police said they were first alerted in February last year when the Hungarian Consulate had complained that a "Dr Nick Marinellis" had demanded US$2500 ($3604) in connection with an attempted scam.

So he's an idiot, and he still managed to make megabucks...

It's disgusting (2, Insightful)

Bloke in a box (781163) | more than 9 years ago | (#10764173)

Regardless of how old someone is or what mental / physical state they are in. Ripping people off is not acceptable.

COCK (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10764192)

Raadt's stubborn 4roject. Today, as

Interesting coincidence. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10764298)

Last Friday evening, I sent a scammer I was baiting a fake Western Union certificate, which he was going to cash in yesterday. I haven't heard anything from him or any of his aliases. I think he probably just got wise to it, but I can only hope... ;)
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