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Mandrakelinux 10.1 Out For PPC

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the nifty-and-commendable dept.

Mandriva 28

joestar writes "Less than two weeks after the release of Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official for x86, Mandrakelinux 10.1 for PPC has been released! The interesting news is that this version of Mandrakelinux is now a community-driven project. This means that Mandrakesoft is not anymore behind the PPC port. Hardware requirements and release notes are available online at Mandrakelinux WiKi. Any volunteer for SPARC & Alpha?"

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good or bad (1)

BortQ (468164) | more than 9 years ago | (#10772194)

> The interesting news is that this version of Mandrakelinux is now a community-driven project.

So is that good or bad? Sounds like it is bad to me, if they were previously being helped and are now not.

Ah well, I am very happy with darwin underneath my pretty OSX eye candy.

Re:good or bad (4, Interesting)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10772335)

Any contribution is good. Linux for PPC isn't as actively developed for x86, so this only helps the situation. Mandrakesoft probably just can't justify the money spent for PPC, so it's not worth it for them to pursue it.

Dont forget the Other PPC platform as well. (5, Interesting)

sethstorm (512897) | more than 9 years ago | (#10772285)

Does this kind of support extend to the RS/6000 or pSeries line? Not every PPC machine is a overchromed box or an upgraded Amiga, and there's some nice hardware that could use some more distribution support other than the quad digit priced varieties.

Re:Dont forget the Other PPC platform as well. (1)

finkployd (12902) | more than 9 years ago | (#10772397)

Are you insinuating that RS/6000s are cheap? Price them lately?

Besides, if you have an rs6k and probably also have AIX, just learn that. As of 5.2 it is quite friendly to Linux users (and lots of Linux packages available).

Smit is your friend

Finkployd

WTF? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10772380)

What the heck did I download a month ago then?
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04 /10/04/ 1624205&tid=147&tid=106&tid=3

Re:WTF? (1)

2mcm (775747) | more than 9 years ago | (#10772898)

Also it has been listed on DistroWatch since 8-31 ie 10 days ago

Re:WTF? (1)

tokenturtle (765853) | more than 9 years ago | (#10773192)

Re:WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786811)

That announcement refers to the ALPHA release.
This thread is about the 10.1.0 release.

wwhhyy? (0, Redundant)

rubee (826908) | more than 9 years ago | (#10774432)

If you're going to spend the money for a Mac you owe itself to yourself to use OS X. It has a superior gui (i'm not trolling!), there's absolutely no hardware compatibility program, not to mention you'll have an excuse to strike up a conversation with the hippie girl at the cafe on the powerbook (I go to UC Berkeley:-P). And if you absolutely must use linux, use that other redhat-based OS specifically designed for ppc: Yellowdog. Or NetBSD or OpenBSD.

Re:wwhhyy? (4, Insightful)

unapersson (38207) | more than 9 years ago | (#10774707)

Mac OSX doesn't run on all PowerPC based hardware though does it? Just a subset. So there's your answer right there.

Re:wwhhyy? (1)

rubee (826908) | more than 9 years ago | (#10774775)

i sit corrected. come to think of it, IBM's new bluegene supercomputer is powerpc. go figure..

Re:wwhhyy? (2, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 9 years ago | (#10775120)

Exactly, which leads to the question of why this is in the Mac section and not the Linux section. There can be no denying that the release of a Linux distribution is related to Linux, while the relevance of this to the Mac is quite tangental.

Re:wwhhyy? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10774831)

But its slow, the gui can't do half of what KDE/Gnome can do, and all my apps are X11 apps so it doesn't really make sense to run an Xserver over the top of a GUI system and then put another one on top of that......
OSX is good, but only if you use it like a mac...

Numbers, please (2, Interesting)

xiaodidi (678443) | more than 9 years ago | (#10774984)

But its [sic] slow, the gui can't do half of what KDE/Gnome can do, and all my apps are X11 apps so it doesn't really make sense to run an Xserver over the top of a GUI system and then put another one on top of that...... OSX is good, but only if you use it like a mac...

If find Apple's X11 to be quite comparable with "native" varieties on PPC or x86. X11 used to be awful on a Mac until Apple got things goings. Similar story as with the Safari browser. I use production X11 apps on Linux and OS X, so I should be able to tell.

Granted, I would like to run KDE *with* Apple's X11, to have a more comparable environment with my Linux installation (indeed to ease the transition *away* from Linux).

Re:Numbers, please (1)

catmistake (814204) | more than 9 years ago | (#10780419)

Could this be what you want? http://www.macworld.com/news/2002/05/31/kde/index. php

Re:wwhhyy? (4, Insightful)

nine-times (778537) | more than 9 years ago | (#10780297)

Well, as someone already mentioned, not all PPC-based computers are Macintoshes. Second, not PPC Macintoshes can run OSX well.

Third, and I don't think it's trivial: Choice. I don't care how good the software I'm using is, I want other options. Every time someone offers me a new option-- even if I'm not going to take advantage of that option-- I'm happy to have it.

When you're locked in to software and have no other options is when you're going to suffer abuse from the developers. Even if the developer that has you locked in doesn't take monopolistic actions, the project will usually turn stagnant and improvements and innovation will slow. Competition is a good force, and it only works when you have competing products.

Re:wwhhyy? (3, Insightful)

brpr (826904) | more than 9 years ago | (#10781379)

If you're going to spend the money for a Mac you owe itself to yourself to use OS X. It has a superior gui (i'm not trolling!), there's absolutely no hardware compatibility program... <snip>

What if I want to spend the money for a Mac, but don't want to spend the money for a new version of OS X every year? My powerbook came with 10.2 (which is now not very well supported, e.g. latest Apple dev tools won't run on it, Fink doesn't really support it) and the cost of upgrading isn't worth it when I can run Linux (Gentoo) instead.

Opendarwin (1, Redundant)

Milton Waddams (739213) | more than 9 years ago | (#10774837)

I'm just wondering, is there much of a point running Linux on your Mac? I mean, it'd be much better to run Opendarwin [opendarwin.org] with either Darwinports [opendarwin.org] or Fink [sourceforge.net] on top of it. From there you can install KDE or GNOME plus lots of other stuff.

Opendarwin would have much better hardware support than Linux on Macs. Has anybody done this? What's the install like? Is there any way to upgrade to new Opendarwin releases?

Re:Opendarwin (3, Informative)

crackshoe (751995) | more than 9 years ago | (#10777278)

It makes early g3 proc macs (blue g3, clear hood pre-imac, imacs, some ibooks) usable machine without using OS 9 - i personally chose to run yellow dog on my 700 mhz ibook because OS X was painfully choppy.

Re:Opendarwin (2, Interesting)

sparkster812 (670872) | more than 9 years ago | (#10778327)

I sort of agree on the OS 9 thing... Linux applications are still being developed, while software for OS 9 generally is not, especially in the case of modern web browsers. I personally like the classic Mac OS, and it's rather snappy on my machine, but the browser problem is the thing that just makes it less appealing.

Just because your system can't run OS X definitely does not mean it is useless.

I have used OS X plenty of times on older G3-based hardware [I run 10.3 on a 600Mhz snow iBook] and one of the biggest bottlenecks is RAM and video. You can speed up OS X on the iMacs by adding RAM and running in a 16-bit video mode, although this is kind of frustrating. With the B&W G3s, just pop in a bunch of RAM and a new video card. Viola! OS X lives!

Or of course you could by a new Mac. Ahhh, freedom of choice!

Re:Opendarwin (2, Informative)

paz5 (542669) | more than 9 years ago | (#10781423)

For those of you interested you can also run KDE in os X. I got it kinda working a while back and plan to try again when i have more time. See how well its progressed in the last few months.

Here is a good place to start. [kde.org]

Re:Opendarwin (1)

brpr (826904) | more than 9 years ago | (#10781941)

Opendarwin does not necessarily have better hardware support than Linux. There are no third party drivers for anything available, so for example I couldn't get my Alcatel Speedtouch modem working on Opendarwin.

It might technically be possible to use OS X drivers (I don't know enough about the two systems to say), but it's certainly not easy given that their installer programs rely on all the Cocoa infrastructure.

Advantage vs OS X? (-1, Redundant)

MacGod (320762) | more than 9 years ago | (#10776059)

I apologise if this question has been asked a hojillion times already, but what's the advantage of Linux over MacOS X (not trolling here, honestly curious)?

Back in the Pre-X days, I tried an install of Mandrake 8 or 9. Never played much around with it, but at least it was a chance to play with it. But given that I now have a BSD-based, highly-polished UNIX system, it seems to make less sense. I mean, I have access to the full command line, I can compile pretty much any open-source program for OS X, Apple has their own X11 version, and I can do all the command-line stuff while still having the polished GUI and access to Microsoft Office, Adobe Photoshop, iTunes, etc.

So, it really seems like OS X has all the advantages of Linux, but is also more polished, and has more brand-name apps available. So, what is the advantage of installing Linux on my G5?

Re:Advantage vs OS X? (4, Informative)

dadragon (177695) | more than 9 years ago | (#10778701)

I apologise if this question has been asked a hojillion times already, but what's the advantage of Linux over MacOS X (not trolling here, honestly curious)?

Apple doesn't make the only PowerPC hardware. There are many others that don't run Mac OS X. For those there is a limited number of operating systems that will run on them.

Re:Advantage vs OS X? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10808446)

Mac OS X is great, but somewhat closed down

Linux on a PPC Mac can utilize some PC hardware, such as CD Burners - Web cams, etc

So what I am saying Is that OS X is cool, but linux is more flexible and configurable

Re:Advantage vs OS X? (1)

Petrochard (733921) | more than 9 years ago | (#10809478)

To be honest my whole family loves MasOS X and I think it's a great operating system but I am a very curious person and I know that the money is in Linux, not Darwin. Yes I'm in it for the money, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy the exploration of man pages and humorous documentation. I personally like to tailor my desktop to my exact tastes, even if it means I have to create my own themes, and I just can't do that cleanly with Aqua.
Two words, OPEN and FREE (as in RMS free)

linux on mac os x (2, Insightful)

schuster (39361) | more than 9 years ago | (#10789602)

I was wondering if there was a way I could install linux on a kind of virtual hard disk, kind of like the way virtual pc works. I'd love to dive into linux and open source in general, but I don't want to have to worry about screwing up my system either. Re-partitioning is not an option because it would be far more work than I'm willing to put into it.

Re:linux on mac os x (1)

dadragon (177695) | more than 9 years ago | (#10790630)

Apparently the guys over at Mac-On-Linux [maconlinux.org] have been working on porting their code to Mac OS X, so you'll be able to run Linux on Mac OS the same way you can run Mac OS on Linux. Check their mailing lists and such for development information.
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