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Windows Source Code Seller Arrested

samzenpus posted more than 9 years ago | from the stealing-is-futile dept.

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prostoalex writes "New York Times says William O. Genovese Jr., 27, of Meriden, Conn. has been arrested by the Feds for selling source code for Windows NT and Windows 2000 operating systems. It's not perfectly clear whether Genovese was selling the portion of the code that was leaked earlier this year or if he had access to other portions of Windows source code. The timing, though, coincides, as the code leaked in February, the same month NYT claims the entrepreneur obtained the source code."

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It figures .. (0, Offtopic)

macaulay805 (823467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786419)

When you get "Nothing to see here, move along."

Re:It figures .. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786520)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Nice comment dickhead.

That's good for your "karma".

BTW, "karma" is a GNAA member.

So keep on fucking GNAA style.

Dumbass.

eeheeeeee (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786420)

pirst fost

United States (5, Insightful)

Scoria (264473) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786423)

It's not perfectly clear whether Genovese was selling the portion of the code that was leaked earlier this year

It's not perfectly clear whether Genovese was selling [the code] at all. Innocent until proven guilty, despite what our current administration would have you believe.

Re:United States (0, Troll)

elerhc (828922) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786510)

why is parent modded as flamebait??? he is very insightful!

i will show you! i am a metamoderator!

Re:United States (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786511)

Why flame bait? This is ligitimate political comment.

Re:United States (1)

mr_z_beeblebrox (591077) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786543)

Other than the snipe at the administration, which can be proven true since even the new ag has argued that we can hold people without access to lawyers, there is no reason to call an accurate statement flamebait.

Re:United States (1)

jarich (733129) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786574)

More accurate (and perhaps more timeless)

Innocent until proven guilty, despite what our newspaper editors or television reporters would have you believe.

Sensational sells...

Sad news ... Yasser Arafat, dead at 75 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786424)

I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat was found dead in his Palestine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to terrorist culture. Truly a Palestinian icon.

Re:Sad news ... Yasser Arafat, dead at 75 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786436)

Actually he died in the hospital in Paris.

Re:Sad news ... Yasser Arafat, dead at 75 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786536)

Also, why troll? You slashdotters are all fuckin short sighted retards.

Re:Sad news ... Yasser Arafat, dead at 75 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786549)

Probably because it called him a terrorist.

And it's recycling the old "Stephen King" formula which usually gets modded "Troll" automatically.

Re:Sad news ... Yasser Arafat, dead at 75 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786577)

At the very least it is off topic.

Need Silent Compiler... (2, Funny)

simdude585 (782096) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786425)

Too bad he didn't have the right compiler, all he got were thousands of thousands of code errors when trying to compile it.

Re:Need Silent Compiler... (1)

Lotharjade (750874) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786440)

I thought that was the definition of windows. Thousands of errors. *snicker*

What the article doesn't say... (5, Funny)

Awestruckin (824416) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786427)

...is that the guy sold the source code printed on soft white double-ply. (unscented.)

Honour amongst thieves (2, Insightful)

NiceGuyUK (801305) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786429)

If there's one thing worse than someone stealing source code and spreading it over the internet, its someone who didn't do the hard work of obtaining it that tries to profit from the actions of others. While I don't condone the original source theft, I hold far greater contempt for those that try and cash in on it.

Re:Honour amongst thieves (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786495)

I, on the other hand, don't really distinguish. They should both have the flesh stripped from their bodies, sprinkled with salt, and doused in alcohol.

Free BSD versus Windows XP (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786430)

Free BSD versus Windows XP

XP: Has the most advanced and easy to use GUI available.
FreeBSD: Has no GUI of note.

XP: Supported by the world's largest and most trusted software company.
FreeBSD: Supported by some losers who got kicked off of the 386BSD core team

XP: Available for free preinstalled on computers from every major manufacturer.
FreeBSD: Available for free as an unstable source release that you have to compile yourself in C and then manually build your own base system.

XP: Stable and reliable, and scalable from the desktop to the datacenter.
FreeBSD: Basically unusable due to major bugs. And it doesn't fix FreeBSD's SMP problems, so don't worry about running it on your server.

XP: Everyone else uses it, so it has all the popular software.
FreeBSD: It runs...uh...vi...and...uhm...thats it actually...

XP: Microsoft has a licensing agreement with SCO, so all SCO IP is fully licensed when you buy a licensed copy of XP!
FreeBSD: You may be liable for the same $699 licensing fee as linux users if you use it, after all, Microsoft is already paying licensing fees for the same code.

XP: Alive
FreeBSD: Dead

As you can see, Free BSD is the clear choice!

linux code (5, Funny)

Outsider_99 (761534) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786435)

I heard that people are now leaking the linux code all over the place ;)

Re:linux code (2, Funny)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786450)

So that's where that kernel panic came from!

Re:linux code (3, Funny)

Jucius Maximus (229128) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786677)

1. Steal Windows Source Code
2. Attempt to sell Windows Source code
3. GO TO 5
4. Profit!
5. Jail

ssshhh dont tell anyone about this secret link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786533)

Re:linux code (3, Funny)

julie-h (530222) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786570)

Damn! And I just bought a license of Linux for home use.

Wow. (2, Interesting)

Heem (448667) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786438)

Wow, virtually my neighboor. Nothing interesting happens around here. I wonder where he was working and If I can have his job? haha.

(yes, I'm looking for IT work in Connecticut)

Re:Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786564)

i suppose he did it cause he didn't have a job... :-/

What's funnier? (5, Funny)

glh (14273) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786439)

He tried to use Paypal to sell it, or he sold it for only $20?? Apparently, he doesn't place a high value on MS's source code...

I sell you linux source code fo $10 (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786490)

I will sell you the sources of Linux for only $10

-Cash only of coarse. paypal is not safe as it turns out.
-anonymous here. just reply to this message with your street adress & phone.

Special price for you my friend!

Re:What's funnier? (1)

t123 (642988) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786555)

Windows is worth $20, and linux is worth $612M. [slashdot.org]

Re:What's funnier? (1)

julie-h (530222) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786636)

Do you too think $20 is outrageous?

I hope you get a free shipping with the $20, or else it is not worth it :)

Where is a mirror of the code? (-1, Offtopic)

tilleyrw (56427) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786441)

Come'on... my virus-writing skills need honing...

I'll add "features" that cause all TCP/IP connections to automatically connect to Hustler.com and download pr0n.

Oh wait...this is Slashdot...all the users are news-group trolls...

Who can really gain from this code though? (2, Interesting)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786442)

Commercially driven hackers?
Business rivals? (alleged code copying)
Open Source community? (alleged code stealing)

Re:Who can really gain from this code though? (1, Funny)

Advocadus Diaboli (323784) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786460)

You forgot Darl McBride on your list. I bet he would be happy to have finally code snippets that prove that intelectual property was stolen. :-)

Re:Who can really gain from this code though? (4, Informative)

Scoria (264473) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786482)

Any malware developer could probably derive a benefit. They are unscrupulous, and it is usually more trivial to examine uncompiled software for vulnerabilities.

Re:Who can really gain from this code though? (4, Insightful)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786506)

Extortionists.

You get the code, look for flaws, write a program that exploits the flaws, and say "Hey Microsoft, give us $50,000 or we'll release this new virus that will wipe out every computer running Windows 2000 that's connected to the Internet."

Now that's assuming such a security flaw could exist...and at this point wouldn't surprise a lot of people around here.

I doubt business rivals would care much because their only competition right now (wrt Windows 2000) seems to be from people in the open source community. You DO NOT want leaked code appearing in OSS.

Re:Who can really gain from this code though? (2, Insightful)

RupW (515653) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786534)

Anyone who wants to exploit "reverse engineering for interoperation" rules without doing the hard work.

Re:Who can really gain from this code though? (2, Informative)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786650)

Well under current laws this wouldn't be allowed. You have to view the code, write down the basic specs on paper and then get someone else to write the code, or "Clean room design" as it's commonly known as:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design [wikipedia.org]

Re:Who can really gain from this code though? (1)

RupW (515653) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786756)

I mean something like reverse engineering the Excel file format so that OpenOffice can read it. AFAIK that's legal under European law at least.

Obviously you wouldn't admit to seeing the real Excel code but you could iron out the problems your own implementation, generate test cases to make it look like you'd figured it out yourself, etc.

Special price for you! (-1, Redundant)

Mindjiver (71) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786446)

From the article :

"Mr. Genovese requested that $20 be sent to a PayPal account and when the payment cleared, the investigator was given access to an Internet address where he could download a file with the source code."

$20 seems a bit much for the windows source code. I think $9.99 would have been more accurate.

Re:Special price for you! (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786470)

I would need to be paid more than $9.99 to take it off your hands.

Re:Special price for you! (1)

mr_z_beeblebrox (591077) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786553)

$20 seems a bit much for the windows source code. I think $9.99 would have been more accurate.

Not when you throw in the massaging showerhead from Renco.

That's a good start... (3, Funny)

Advocadus Diaboli (323784) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786449)

... now lets hope that in the next step we extend the arrest to sellers of Windows binary code.

Re:That's a good start... (1, Funny)

TheOtherChimeraTwin (697085) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786540)

Not just the sellers! We must go back to the source! People who write viruses, spyware and other harmful software must be punished!

I can see it now... "Free Bill" bumperstickers on MSCEs's laptops.

Re:That's a good start... (1)

classic66coupe (684338) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786584)

man, that ruled.

Disgusting (5, Insightful)

quigonn (80360) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786459)

I find it disgusting that /. (and other news sites) publish the arrested person's full name. This person is not yet proven guilty, and still has a right for privacy and personal integrity - when a British newspaper published the names of convicted child molesters, lynch mobs formed to try to hunt down and kill those people. This should never happen, as it is totally against the concept of a modern constitutional state.

Re:Disgusting (3, Informative)

Anita Coney (648748) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786478)

Despite what people think, there is no right to privacy or "personal integrity" in the US Constitution. Maybe there should be, but as now there isn't.

Re:Disgusting (3, Informative)

ZB Mowrey (756269) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786630)

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...{snip}

This is generally construed... and has been promulgated by SCOTUS... as a right to privacy.

Re:Disgusting (1)

Begossi (652163) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786778)

You seem to have felt for the common fallacy that if it isn't in the US Constitution, then it isn't your right. The US Constitution was created to limit the powers of the State, not to guarantee the citizen's rights. The citizen's rights are taken for granted, and assumed un-revocable.

Re:Disgusting (2, Funny)

Johan Veenstra (61679) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786497)

> This should never happen, as it is totally against
> the concept of a modern constitutional state.

Get a grip to reality, we're talking about the US here.

Hilarious! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786744)

Yes! Another anti-US statement, man, these will never get old! yes, it's sarcasm you stupid wank.

Mod parent insightful, not funny? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786761)

Why is this modded as being Funny?
I'd rather call it the sad truth.

Re:Disgusting (4, Insightful)

jmcmunn (307798) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786519)


Why is this guy special? They can give your name and say you were the "alleged" murderer. Or you were "allegedly" invloved in some sort of crime.

Lets think about it, the terrorist watch list is nothing more than some "alleged" terrorists for the most part. Not all of them have actually been found guilty of anything. Some have of course, but not all.

So, no. You don't have to be proved guilty. He can of course sue the pants off everyone who ruins his reputation by filing a civil lawsuit or something if he turns out innocent and people have dragged him through the mud.

But if they released his full name you can bet they are pretty sure about this one.

Re:Disgusting (5, Insightful)

Lord Byron II (671689) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786608)

But if they released his full name you can bet they are pretty sure about this one. But that attitude is precisely the problem. First, our system is about "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt", not "they are pretty sure" and second, that assumption is already tainting potential jurers in to believing the man is guilty long before the trial even begins.

Re:Disgusting (1)

Talthane (699885) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786552)

This should never happen, as it is totally against the concept of a modern constitutional state.

Which, er, Britain isn't. No constitution, or at least not one that's written down. Secondly, the lynch mobs (as you call them) weren't actually trying to kill said child molesters - they were trying to drive them out of town. Which you can argue is equally reprehensible, and I would agree that it is, but that's a long way from lynch mobs trying to kill people.

Re:Disgusting (3, Interesting)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786619)

The name of a person charged with a criminal offence is a matter of public record. (Except when it's not released to protect minors involved in the case.) The time to get nervous is when names, charges and trials are kept secret.

And I doubt too many people will be forming a lynch mob over Windows source code.

Re:Disgusting (3, Insightful)

blowdart (31458) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786637)

How strange. It's perfectly within the "rights" (not that we have a written constitution that documents rights) of UK papers to print the names of those people who have been arrested and charged, except where they are under a certain age. This can, of course, cause problems, the most obvious ones being rape cases where the accuser keeps their anonymity even if is found the case has no merit or was malicious.

I assume you will be leaving the UK to find this halcyon modern consitutional state.

Re:Disgusting (-1, Offtopic)

Onan The Librarian (126666) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786693)

"... it is totally against the concept of a modern constitutional state."

You mean like the current US administration ?

Re:Disgusting (1)

CmdrPorno (115048) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786732)

It's not like we're talking about child molestation here. We're talking about selling stolen property of questionable value. I doubt lynch mobs will be forthcoming, especially when the injured party is one of the most despised corporations in the world.

Re:Disgusting (1, Funny)

Bin_jammin (684517) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786775)

I totally agree with you, but I think we should also not publish the names of the convicted, as we may offend their delicate sensibilities. Oh, and all criminal records must be expunged upon finishing the sentence for your crime, so that it doesn't hang over your head for the rest of your life. In fact, let's use secret code for criminal charges, so nobody will even know what crimes a person is accused of. We want these people to be able to walk proud amongst us, not as a possible danger to society, but instead as heros for pointing out potential weak spots in our social rhetoric. And for all you pukes out there, that's spelled h-u-m-o-r. And it was sarcastic. Look it up.

GPL (3, Funny)

datadriven (699893) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786466)

That'll teach him, he should have released it under the GPL.

Ridiculous (2, Interesting)

methangel (191461) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786468)

All Mr. Genovese needed to do was state on the website that the fee was for the bandwidth/donation. Blatantly asking for money for something that is pirated is never a good idea. Especially with a large conglomerate like Microsoft.

Re:Ridiculous (1, Funny)

MouseR (3264) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786715)

I think it's brilliant.

If he fell the Feds nearing, then putting it up on eBay was the smartest thing to do.

Now, he can plead insanity.

Or at least moronity.

re: notice that... (4, Insightful)

Silvercloud (691706) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786473)

that just by possessing source code and attempting to sell it, Mr. Genovese is labeled a hacker, in the first line of the article no less. It's a shame that hackers are the continual blacksheep of the tech world...

Re: notice that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786644)

Funny you should say that [wasarrested.com]

Genovese? (1)

markhb (11721) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786474)

I wonder if he's related to this Genovese family [fbi.gov] ?

Busted for Selling WMD on Ebay !!! (4, Funny)

cbelt3 (741637) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786488)

I'm very happy to hear that this dangerous criminal who was selling the tools necessary to manufacture Weapons of Mass Despair (Windows Software)to the public has been captured and will be properly punished.

Now if we can just get the person or persons responsible for wasting so much of my productive time with their crappy code....

I can see the sourcecode now... (2, Funny)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786489)

10 LET BILL=10
20 LET STEVE=9
30 IF BILL>STEVE PRINT "HA HA STEVE IM COOL, LOVE BILL"
40 GOTO 10

Re:I can see the sourcecode now... (2, Funny)

Yaztromo (655250) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786598)

The worst part of it is this code isn't well optimized. I mean you'd hope they'd know enough to not bother to continually loop through the assignments in lines 10 and 20 when they never actually change.

Just goes to show that if Windows were Open Source, this sort of bug could have been fixed long ago. It's probably existed since MS-DOS v1.0, and explains so very much.

Yaz.

Re:I can see the sourcecode now... (0)

Nuclear Elephant (700938) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786602)

40 GOTO 10

Just like a typical windows programmer not to GOTO 30.

Re:I can see the sourcecode now... (1)

Fredrik Leijon (609309) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786633)

hm, GOTO 30 should speed things up =)

Why buy stolen code when MS provides it for free?! (5, Funny)

Anita Coney (648748) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786508)

It's SO easy to get the code legitimately from Microsoft. All you have to do is form a huge country and threaten to convert over to Linux from Windows for security concerns. Ballmer will probably fly out himself with a copy of any source code you desire.

Now isn't that easier than committing a felony?!

Re:Why buy stolen code when MS provides it for fre (1)

CortoMaltese (828267) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786542)

Well, hey, he who asks money for something is not stupid... it's the one that pays who's being stupid!

Re:Why buy stolen code when MS provides it for fre (1)

EvilGrin666 (457869) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786544)

Which island are we buying then? Hawaii? Cuba? Australia?

Re:Why buy stolen code when MS provides it for fre (1)

julie-h (530222) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786609)

Well, the source code that MS provides is not of much use.

You can't ask for a specific code piece, you get what they have looked over and over and over and over, so it doesn't contain anything remotely interesing.

MS giving out source code is a marketing trick, nothing more. Don't be fooled by that!

$20? (1)

RiffRafff (234408) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786524)

That's more than it's worth to me.

Genovese = known fool (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786546)

His online profile lists William P. Genovese's profession as "hacking bum" and "getting arrested" among his likes.

That is just what federal authorities did Tuesday, charging Genovese with unlawfully distributing a trade secret, a violation of the Economic Espionage Act, in connection with the alleged sale of a source code for Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 and the Windows 2000 operating systems.

According to the U.S. Attorney's Office for New York, Genovese, 27, of 1001 Old Colony Road, Apt. 7-3, Meriden, used his Web site, illmob.org, to sell the source code, which Microsoft learned in February was misappropriated and unlawfully released and distributed over the Internet.

The source code is considered the company's "crown jewels." Unauthorized access to the code can leave the operating systems open to exploitation by computer hackers.

"Microsoft has not authorized the release of this code and any use of it is illegal. As we have said since February, Microsoft will take all appropriate legal actions to protect our intellectual property," a spokesman for the software giant said. "It's illegal for third parties to post, make available to others, or download this code in question and we take such activity very seriously. Microsoft's source code is copyrighted, and it is an infringement to make an unauthorized copy of that code. Moreover, the source code is a trade secret of Microsoft."

The same day Microsoft learned that a significant portion of the code had been released, Genovese posted a message on his Web site announcing that he had a copy of the code and was offering it for sale, according to the complaint.

An investigator hired by Microsoft downloaded a copy of the code in February after submitting a $20 electronic payment to Genovese. In July, an undercover FBI agent also downloaded the code from Genovese after making an electronic payment, the complaint said.

Federal authorities arrested Genovese before 6 a.m. Tuesday. A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office declined to say where Genovese was arrested. Genovese faces a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison and a fine of $250,000, or twice the gross gain or loss resulting from the offense. Genovese could not be reached for comment Wednesday. The investigation into the release of the code is ongoing, the U.S. Attorney's Office said.

Genovese was convicted in March 2003 of eavesdropping and was sentenced to two years probation. That charge stemmed from his gaining unauthorized access to computers in Connecticut in 2000. According to the complaint, Genovese had infected victims' computers with a virus that allowed him to remotely access them, recording their activities, taking control of the machines and sending instant messages to the victims, telling them what he was doing.

trade secret != copyright (3, Informative)

mangu (126918) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786766)

Microsoft's source code is copyrighted, ... Moreover, the source code is a trade secret of Microsoft.


OK, make up your mind, which is it, a trade secret or a copyright? Because copyrighted works are intended to, eventually, become public domain, one cannot copyright a trade secret. Or, at least, that's more or less how it's written in the U.S. Constitution.

Along with the code... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786558)

were the comments:

// Did stuff here when drunk,
// seems to work, don't change!

// Obfusticate code and use really
// old librarys, this should annoy
// some Wine devs muhahaha

// Struck a deal with Symantec to
// leave this vunerability in, don't
// change!

$20/OSS (1)

johnthorensen (539527) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786563)

So now that the Windows source code is out in the open and a market price has been set...

It was too much to ask for Windows to become FOSS, but at least now it's $20OSS :D

Arrested for selling Windows? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786575)

"William O. Genovese Jr., 27, of Meriden, Conn. has been arrested by the Feds for selling source code for Windows NT and Windows 2000 operating systems."

So when can we arrest William H. Gates for selling the binaries?

Re:Arrested for selling Windows? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786768)

Isn't it amazing that even after he hit 27 years old he was still as stupid as a 17 year old wannabe?

It's like the 17-18 year old pleading in court..." I SWEAR she told me she was 18! there is no way she was 14!"

just another unbelieveably stupid person.

Be afraid of those smart enough to not be seen.

What were the charges? (1)

Idou (572394) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786576)

Reckless endangerment? Wanka, wanka, wanka . . .

SCO was his first customer (1)

RedLaggedTeut (216304) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786581)

SCO was his first customer ..

earlier conviction (3, Funny)

Deacon Jones (572246) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786583)

In March 2003, he was convicted of eavesdropping

*sigh* I wish they could convict my mother-in-law of this.

"Secret recipe"? (1)

pherris (314792) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786590)

From the article:
"This is someone who stole and attempted to sell for profit some valuable asset of Microsoft," said Tom Rubin, the associate general counsel for Microsoft. "It is our secret recipe, our secret formula like the Coke formula."

More like the secret recipe for the nuggets my cat leaves in his litterbox. Manufactured in a similar fashion too.

The Feds? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786595)

Since when FBI arrests people for copyright infringement or trade secrets violation, both of which are civil offences, not even criminal and certainly not a federal crime?

What an idiot!! (1)

davidmcg1975 (811944) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786596)

Doing something like this is just asking for trouble. I think he was incredibily stupid to even attempt this. He was asking to get caught as well. The fact that he was profiteering from it will win disapproval from both Microsoft and the people who stole and propogated the code...
What an idiot.

Got the code here for Firefox 1.0..anyone want to buy it?

MS is BS (1)

Locdonan (804414) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786599)

When you complie it, you still get the same buggy load of crap you get now. The only difference is that you can see the millions of bugs but can't fix them because you'd be changing a variable on about 4000 lines each time.

Way to go bill, you gorged your code TO THE MAX! WOoT for u!

Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786601)

Why would anybody want to buy it? It's has a poor immune system, suffers from paranoia and can be quite disruptive with anti-social beahaviour in public. ...
Would that be because the source has been locked up for to long?

Here's his website ... (2, Informative)

Draoi (99421) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786607)

illmob.org [illmog.org]

Interesting stuff ... shopping at Ikea the day before his arrest, oblivious to the impending doom.

Re:Here's his website ... (1)

Draoi (99421) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786620)

D'oh. Let's try that URL again; illmob.org [illmob.org]

Re:Here's his website ... (1)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786777)

And now the Ikea cops are after him too!

Social Engineered Desk posted by illwill

November 07, 2004, 07:53:38 PM

went on a shopping spree yesterday at Ikea for some new gear for the condo..
read the full news to see how i got this pimp ass desk for free

The real crime here is... (0, Troll)

Bin_jammin (684517) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786616)

Not plowing Meriden back into the Earth and salting the land after... what a dump. Urban decay at its best and brightest. I grew up one town over from there, and I can honestly say I don't blame the kid for it at all.

Fraud charge to be added as well (4, Funny)

seniorcoder (586717) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786622)

Inside sources indicate there will be a fraud charge added: he was representing that this was the code of an operating system.

ooh! ooh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10786628)

Can I point out how it's not stealing because nothing was actually taken away? Can I? Can I? That's always insightful and interesting.

technical genius (1)

jdkane (588293) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786654)

Obivously he didn't study the Microsoft TCP/IP stack implementation close enough to discover that his anonymity was not guaranteed when selling Windows source code over the Internet.

AHAA! (0)

Lord Graga (696091) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786718)

1. Buy leaks MS sourcecode
2. Enter IOCCC
3. ???
4. PROFIT! :D

He was actually arrested for fraud. (1)

RandoX (828285) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786752)

Because he advertised it as a secure operating system.

He should be punished (2, Funny)

beforewisdom (729725) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786785)

...for distributing Microsoft Source Code.

That is one of the biggest causes of viruses and technical failures around. He is just spreading it!
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