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History of "Gods Eye View" 3D Game Perspective?

Cliff posted more than 9 years ago | from the eye-of-agamotto dept.

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Milo_Mindbender asks: "A lot of games today feature a 2D or 3D 'instant replay' system that lets you watch the game you just played on a map or from a third person 3D view. Some multi-player games also let you watch live games in play this way. I'm trying make a time-line on the history of this feature and was hoping the Slashdot crowd could help me out with names, dates and other info on games that had replay features. I think the Army SIMNET tank simulator was the first to have this (called the 'flying carpet') sometime in the late '80s early '90s. References to games with replay are harder to find because it usually wasn't advertised. I'd particularly like to find the first game with user controlled 2D and 3D game replay/spectating and the first replay systems with automatic camera controls creating cinematic 'wide world of sports' quality real-time movies of the game."

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Stunts (1)

Kevlar_Sindome (763483) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783753)

I seem to vaugely remember the old car driving game 'Stunts' having this. I'm sure there's plenty of information floating around the interweb about it. This is in contrast to a game like "Test Drive ", which I don't remember having the feature.

Anyone else remember this? Or am I making it up?
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Re:Stunts (1)

pkhuong (686673) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783764)

ISTR that Stunts had a sports camera -like replay. Not exactly God's Eye, but it does seem to be what the OP is looking for.

Re:Stunts (2, Informative)

Dephex Twin (416238) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783830)

That game was great! Yes, it definitely had a special replay view where you could see it from all different angles (I think the computer decided the angles). I remember that was half the fun, watching the replays.

Re:Stunts (1)

arcadum (528303) | more than 9 years ago | (#10784026)

This was my first thoiught too.

Re:Stunts (1)

DrunkenTerror (561616) | more than 9 years ago | (#10784428)

Yes, Stunts was a truly awesome game! Man, oh man, the build-your-own-track feature was incredible for it's time, even if you had to "cheat" to make the really fun tracks. :) Anyone remember that bug where if you land on an obstacle just wrong, you'd fly upwards for thousands of feet? Man, did I burn through some 386/25MHz cycles playing that game!

Re:Stunts (1)

Dephex Twin (416238) | more than 9 years ago | (#10785445)

Anyone remember that bug where if you land on an obstacle just wrong, you'd fly upwards for thousands of feet?
Yes, I do remember that! It was absolutely never something we were able to do except by accident, but yeah, that happened to us once or twice.

When did that game come out? This must have been sometime around 1991 or 1992.

Re:Stunts (1)

Reapy (688651) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786952)

haha yeah, this game was the best! Is there any track building games like this out now a days? Something called track mania maybe, but id ont think its exactly the same.

I remember hitting the crevice just right a few tiems on jumps and things with the indy car and having it launch straight up in the air. Truely awesome! Saved all those replays :)

Re:Stunts (2, Informative)

Liberator1 (789199) | more than 9 years ago | (#10787976)

Stunts (a.k.a. 4-D Sports Driving in Europe) came out in 1990, according to MobyGames [mobygames.com] . I had a ton of fun with this game. I remember the following camera options during replay. For each one, you could select which of the two cars to follow:
  • Helicopter (follows behind and way above selected car)
  • Track cameras (view transfers from camera to camera along the track, each one following the selected car as it passes by)
  • In car (same view as during gameplay)
  • Choose your angle (similar to the helicopter, but you choose the angle relative to the car. You could even pause and change the angle in the middle of the replay)

Re:Stunts (1)

billysielu (818427) | more than 9 years ago | (#10785663)

heh, i'm not old enough :)

First racing game with the feature...? (1)

DaveJay (133437) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783760)

The earliest racing game I can remember with this style of god-view replay was Papyrus's "Nascar", released in 1994. Here's a web site [lava.net] about the game, with some screenshots -- the screenshots that show more than one car are from the built-in replay system, which gave multiple angles of replay either during the race (when paused) or after the race. I'm not sure if you could save or edit replays, although these capabilities were added in later versions. Same goes for the TV1 and TV2 cameras, which simulated live TV coverage of a real NASCAR race, by following the car you selected with various camera views -- this existed in later versions of the game, and certainly existed in advanced form by 1997's Gran Prix Legends (also a Papyrus title), but I'm not sure if it was part of the original Nascar release.

Again, not sure if this was the first racing game with this feature, but it's the first one I remember.

Re:First racing game with the feature...? (2, Informative)

DaveJay (133437) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783782)

Oops, looked through the linked site above and found that Papyrus's own release "Indycar Racing", released in 1993, also appears to have had the god-view replay feature. Never owned the game, myself.

Re:First racing game with the feature...? (1)

Trixter (9555) | more than 9 years ago | (#10788117)

ACTUALLY, Indianapolis 500, their real first game, was the first to have this. Was a technical marvel, too -- it did truly amazing things on an 8088.

Re:First racing game with the feature...? (1)

SillyNickName4me (760022) | more than 9 years ago | (#10796882)

It has a bit much of a simulator approach to the driving, but definitely a cool game (and one of the reasons for me to keep a ds machine around still) given you have a real good (analog) joystick or steering wheel (joypad wont do usually)

Re:First racing game with the feature...? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10785380)

Way earlier than that actually. 5 years earlier for Papyrus. The game engine created by Papyrus dates back to their first game, in 1989, called Indianapolis 500 : The Simulation. It's a very crude, yet incredible for that time game engine which gave you full replay capabilities with NO fps hit and about in real-time. You could pause anywhere in the race, watch your entire race with simple VCR-type settings. Stop/Pause/Play/Slow/FF/RWD etc...

The cameras were in plenty, from 2 TV cams, an helicopter cam, pit cam, rear view cam, etc... and from any car on the track.

All this almost in real-time, the memory buffer was like instantly loaded unlike other racing games like Test Drive where it had all to boot up again each time you entered in "replay mode".

4D Sports Driving (1)

ferkelparade (415620) | more than 9 years ago | (#10785823)

4D Sports Driving [n.ethz.ch] (aka Stunts) already had that feature in 1990...you could choose different camera angles (including a series of TV cameras automatically placed along the track), and you could save replays to disk. Coolest racing game ever...

Re:4D Sports Driving (1)

Reapy (688651) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786983)

I don't know if I ever did their driving game, but I sure as hell liked 4d sports boxing and tennis. The boxing one was my favorate until EA's fight night 2004. Took them a while to make one good enough to compete :)

Re: Need for speed series I think... (1)

blahplusplus (757119) | more than 9 years ago | (#10796058)

Need for speed had replays and I believe it predates (or about the same time) had it. Not every speed in the series had it but I believe it was the first one (or #2) and Porsche unleashed for sure had it.

Thirty minutes later... (0, Troll)

acxr is wasted (653126) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783787)

Still nobody cares.

So... (1)

Zerth (26112) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783806)

who is it that is suing you for patent infringment for using a 3rd person cam in your software?

Re:So... (1)

Zerth (26112) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783821)

or, alternately after noticing the supplicant's email address, who are you about to sue/what are you trying to patent?

Re:So... (2, Interesting)

cgenman (325138) | more than 9 years ago | (#10784223)

Maybe his resume [tripod.com] Moby Games profile [mobygames.com] would shed more light on what is going on? How about his projects [tripod.com] list?

He's R&D at Sony, in other words.

"Developed single-pixel particle demonstration, covering physics based particle motion, use of alpha blending and optimized rendering of this type of particle using VU1 microcode on Playstation II
Developed demonstration of high-speed texture loading (10 megabytes per frame) and presented the technique at Playstation II developers conference and several smaller gatherings.
Developed application to do "zoom from orbit" going from a full-earth weather satellite photo down to a 1 meter resolution image of San Francisco in one continuous zoom. This included development of a new (so far as I know) technique for mapping corrected or uncorrected satellite photos onto a globe with a minimum of distortion.
Research on the consumer ease-of-use, economic and technical issues surrounding downloadable music and music subscription services.
Early testing of a number of Playstation II code libraries in development.
Participation in internal Sony groups dealing with networking and interoperation of Sony products.
Support of misc Sony developers.
One Patent pending"

He's also doing something with macs [apple.com] , though that might be unrelated to his work at Sony. He's also a nexistentialist [xyroth-enterprises.co.uk] and a commie [wwug.com] .

Isn't google fun?

Anyway, I'm not trying to rain on your parade, Greg, I just hope this wraps up questions about who you are.

Re:So... (1)

Echnin (607099) | more than 9 years ago | (#10785619)

"Nexialism", huh. That has ties with Scientology [wikipedia.org] , apparently.

Like I was trying to keep it a secret? (2)

Milo_Mindbender (138493) | more than 9 years ago | (#10788631)

So this is news? It's not like I'm working for the CIA or something. I'm just looking for background on a game feature that I did a lot of work on back in the early 90's. If I get enough data a timeline of will eventually appear on my website.

By the way, it's "Nexialist" which comes from an old A.E. Van Vougt book and is basically just a tech version of "jack of all trades"

Re:Like I was trying to keep it a secret? (1)

cgenman (325138) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795073)

No, I didn't intend it as news. I actually thought it was neat... I work on the PS2, so a lot of your sweat goes into making my sweat look better. I just figured someone was going to google you, and I rathered it be a simpathetic someone. Besides, you asked a question about game development and gave an official playstation e-mail address... who wouldn't be curious?

I always thought of the Nexialists as a better focused version of the renaissance men, but with a touch of existentialism thrown in.

Re:No lawsuits, no patents (2, Interesting)

Milo_Mindbender (138493) | more than 9 years ago | (#10784197)

No lawsuits or patents going on here...

Way back in 90-91 I wrote several replay systems for the Virtual World Entertainment multiplayer cockpit simulator games "BattleTech" and "Red Planet". One replayed the game on a 2d scrolling map (overhead view), another generated a play-by-play description of the game (text plus a map with highlight points marked), a third did a cinimatic 3d view that could either be live or a recorded game. You could manually control the cameras or let the computer do it.

I was thinking about this the other day and decided I needed to look into the history of this feature. I'm pretty sure other people had 3d replay before me, but couldn't remember if anyone had tried to do the cinematic-style with automatic AI camera control.

Re:No lawsuits, no patents (1)

Destoo (530123) | more than 9 years ago | (#10791397)

Those games rocked.

Expensive, but I think I still have dreams about them.

We used to hang out between courses at the Montreal location and when it closed down, there was a lot of stuff to buy.. (being the only francophone location, they couldn't re-sell the "monde virtuel" or "velocité=victoire" stuff elsewhere)

Jaques Villeneuve used to be a regular there between races, when he had the chance to come back to Montreal.

I started playing on version 4, I think, (when you didn't have to remember the coolant flush codes)

Good times...

As good a place as any... (1)

Synonymous Yellowbel (720524) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783807)

... for me to have a whinge about the state of replays in games today, particularly on consoles. Ludicrous lack of angles for no good reason, inability to select the object to follow, no rewind/fast forward, analog sticks not utilised, no zoom, too-short period of replay, no save/load, etc., etc.

It really pisses me off in a game such as Toca Race Driver 2, where with such pretty graphics and fun physics you could get some really cool replays happening if only the replay engine provided a reasonable set of controls.

steve

civilization (1)

fireduck (197000) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783809)

the original civilization (if not civ 2) had a replay at the end of the game, with a minimap showing power influence over the course of the game. you had zero control over the replay and didn't even see any action, other than the map changing color depending on cities springing up and who owned them, but it was nice watching your color slowly branch out and take over the world. (for some reason i think this feature got taken out of later releases in the franchise.)

Re:civilization (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10783834)

SM's Alpha Centauri had that too.

Re:civilization (1)

Wade Tregaskis (696280) | more than 9 years ago | (#10785102)

No, Civ II & Civ III (and Alpha Centauri, as someone else said) all have this as well. It's a pity they haven't expanded on it a bit - I'd like to be able to select different attributes with which to colour code the map (e.g. military presence, to watch the build-up's and conflicts).

Re:civilization (1)

eyeye (653962) | more than 9 years ago | (#10785760)

Populous II On the amiga (no doubt others too but thats what I played) had an animated minimap at the end that showed the game progress.

It was very cool.

Red Baron (1)

pawnb (556687) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783842)

Developer: Dynamix, Publisher: Sierra, Year: 1991. Damn, I played alot of this game. It was the first game I ever saw on a computer making use of an Adlib sound card. It had playback and I think it had a free moving camera, can't remember exactly though.

Re:Red Baron (1)

Mariani (700617) | more than 9 years ago | (#10802935)

Yep, it had a very nice playback mode. You could even record the cameramovements you made during replay and make a demo that way.

I loved showing off with those! It would be cool to have a feature like that in most 3D games.

F1GP (1)

Chris Brewer (66818) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783843)

Microprose Formula 1 GP (the first one - 1992 or earlier) had replay functionality - not 'God's Eye', but lots of camera angles anyway. You had to have lots of RAM (for the day) to be able to use it. A 1Mb Amiga 500 didn't cut it.

Falcon 4, (now Free falcon) had replay (1)

strangedays (129383) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783870)

The most excellent Falcon 4, an awesome F16 combat flight sim, had the replay feature. It allowed the selective storage and replay of complex combat missions, as a 3d wire frame display of relative positions and vectors, as a learning tool so you could figure out how you got killed.

The current Free Falcon software is also truly excellent. I am fairly sure the replay feature is still there.

hard drivin' (1)

jeffehobbs (419930) | more than 9 years ago | (#10783942)

Man, that game [arcadeflyers.com] was awesome. When my friends and I found out that you could hit the cow and it would "moo", that's all we wanted to do.

Anyhow, it had both "ghost racers" that represented your best lap, and a replay mode when you cracked up spectacularly.

Re:hard drivin' (1)

potus98 (741836) | more than 9 years ago | (#10787302)


Thanks for posting a memory. That game was awesome. It came to the local arcade when I was 14. It's how I learned to drive a manual transmission. No kidding. Sure, a real car felt different, but I had already internalized the motions of hand/feet coordination.

The sequal had a course that finished with a tunnel followed by a high-bank right turn to the finish line. I was able to shave 4-ish seconds off my champion challenge lap time with the following stunt: When entering the tunnel, drive up the left side a little, come back down and drive up the right side. You should have enough momentum loop the circular tunnel like a roller coaster. (No big deal so far -this trick was shown in one of the demo laps I think.) Instead of exiting the tunnel on the road headed for the final hard right bank, I would extend my ceiling run, come swooping down the left side of the tunnel and launch off the last right edge of the tunnel's bank. Done properly, I would fly out of the tunnel directly towards the finish line and barrel roll through the air. It was spectacular! Usually I would crash through the finish line, but it didn't matter -the race was over. about 33% of the time, it would be a perfect 360 degree barrell roll and I would land on my wheels blasting through the finish line.

Racing Destruction Set (1)

robthky (824264) | more than 9 years ago | (#10784018)

This game was released in 1984/85 by EA Games for the Commodore 64. Still the funnest racing game I have played. I beleive you could replay the entire race after the fact. Great way to waste time when you were 15 in the 80's For a full review goto http://rds.planetflibble.com/

Re:Racing Destruction Set (1)

Marc_Hawke (130338) | more than 9 years ago | (#10784799)

I spent many many hours with Racing Destruction Set.

It would be interesting to build something like that with todays physics and graphics.

You used roller coaster tycoon type track building tools. Then you set things like gravity, weather (friction) etc, and race with different cars. (The CanAm was the best.) You could have jeeps with spiked tires for ice tracks. Nobbies for dirt. Lunar Rovers for low gravity.

And making your own tracks was just awesome as long as you didn't make and traps in there were the cars couldn't get out. (Even with low gravity, the lunar rover just didn't have enough torque to get up very steep hills.)

Yes...this is a great game and deserves a modern remake...just as much as Pirates does.

Re:Racing Destruction Set (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10787079)

It Exists!

It's called Track Mania, at www.trackmania.com

"Today's physics"?!?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10799129)

It would be interesting to build something like that with todays physics

Umm, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the laws of physics more or less constant? :o)

Bungie Dates - Games with Replay (1)

poena.dare (306891) | more than 9 years ago | (#10784027)

Offhand I recall from Bungie:

Bungie Released Marathon 12/21/1994 - you could save "films" and during film playback you could cycle through the viewpoints of the other players (in other words still locked in 1stPP).

Bungie Released Myth: The Fallen Lords 11/14/1997 - you could save "films" and during playback you could turn the "auto-follow" camera on and it would try to display the most interesting action in the game in a somewhat cinematic style. It worked reasonably well. On 12/31/1998 Bungie Released Myth II: Soulblighter which had a slightly improved "auto-follow" camera (about 10% better). Oh and this is all 3rdPP.

Sadly, Bungie abandoned replay code in their subsequent games which was a great loss for the fan community - there's nothing like spanking somebody's ass and having the evidence to back it up, especially ten years later when you're old and tired and you don't have any friends anymore.

Replays used as demos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10784040)

I'm not sure how relevant you'll find this, but replay systems have long been used in games to display rolling demos. The stuff that's going on in the background while you're prompted to "INSERT COULD"? That's often a demo. The only difference here is that the player wasn't able to record their own.

Chuck Yeagar's Flight Simulator (1)

Leghkster (603558) | more than 9 years ago | (#10784235)

I remember trying to follow Chuck around in some X-plane, then watching the playback as I swerved all over the place behind him, all in a "chase plane" view... I have no idea what year that was, but it was fun.

quakeworld (1)

evilmousse (798341) | more than 9 years ago | (#10784771)


quake1, or more properly, quakeworld was the first i can officially say i remember, for a truly free-controlled observer. maybe heretic, but i'm not sure. i don't know if i'd count racing gamed with a set camera-path/stations.

Netrek (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10784855)

I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but the old game Netrek had observer slots where people could log in and observe a game as it was played.

Netrek came about in the early 90's and it was played mostly in university computer labs. It's a 2D online game with two teams of 8 players. The object was to capute the other team's planets. The game featured arcade style realtime combat and excellently balanced game mechanics.

Anyway, as the game is being played, up to 4 people could login as observers and basically see things from the point of view of one of the players or from a stationary location. You could switch from player to player at will. To keep things fair, you were limited to observing the players of only one team.

Also, I recall an experimental INL tournament server that could record and playback an entire game.

Demos in Doom (1)

bindster (533597) | more than 9 years ago | (#10785133)

.LMP replayable demos in Doom are as far back as I remember, though those were first person. Also, there was Need For Speed (Special Edition?) which was the first game I remember that had Gran Turismo style replays. Then, didn't Flashback have some sort of 3rd person camera?

MobyGames [mobygames.com] has a chronological list of games, alot with screenshorts.

Modem Wars (1)

Doctor Cat (676482) | more than 9 years ago | (#10785212)

The first multiplayer online game I can remember that had a replay mode was Modem Wars by Dan Bunten. It was strictly 2D of course. This was in the mid 1980s, and it was aimed at Commodore 64 owners with a 300 baud modem. Since the data stream to cover everything that was happening in the game had to be so small, it was trivial to put in an option to record it to a file and play it back. So he did.

Re:Modem Wars (1)

SirBruce (679714) | more than 9 years ago | (#10802107)

Damn, Cat, you beat me to it. :)

Up until a few years ago, my brother would still play Modem Wars via modem under DOS. The game was quite addictive and yet amazingly simple. Modem Wars is also recognized as one of the first PC "remote" (as opposed to hotseat) multiplayer games.

Bruce

PLATO IV (2, Informative)

sakusha (441986) | more than 9 years ago | (#10785260)

I vaguely recall that the old 2D RPG "Empire" on the PLATO IV system had a god's eye view, and that was back in the early 1970s. Don't remember if it had replay though. That surely must have been the first god's eye view, it was probably the first online gaming system ever. We used to call it the PLAY-TO system because of all the great games.

I have a vague recollection of some early Apple ][ sidescroller game that had a replay, also some early Amiga game. Maybe someone else will remember..

4D Sports Boxing. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10785496)

That was in what, 1991 or so?

Man, I get that soundtrack stuck in
my head everytime I think of that game.

J

Not totally sure, but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10785566)

I think "Death Track" and "The Magic Carpet" both had replays (i think).

like everyone else, it's a LONG time since I've played these games and can now only vaguely remember....

oh, just rememberred... Microprose Soccer (2D, WAY OLD), I'm sure they had some sort of "god's eye" replay of goals! (I LOVED this game :))

oh, the memories of monochrome monitor's.... those were the days ;)

BBC TV Game Show (3, Interesting)

seanellis (302682) | more than 9 years ago | (#10785821)

I worked on a prototype networked 3D environment for a TV game show called Cyberzone, which had the "spectator" feature.

There were 5 3D computers in the network, one each generating a first person view and a map view for each of two teams, and then a "virtual camera" in the vision gallery. This was used to get a view into the game zone for the tape, and could select any of the player's viewpoints and many others.

The pilot episode was filmed in late 1991 at Anglia TV in Norwich (England) and was a star network based on 9600 baud serial cables.

By the time the series was actually comissioned in 1993, we had a more robust thin Ethernet solution to the networking problem, and the BBC made one series of the program before it became a casualty of regime change in the organisation.

The program was critically panned, but there was one positive outcome - Craig Charles (of Red Dwarf fame) bought me a drink.

Populous (1989/1990) by Bullfrog (1)

dpilot (134227) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786308)

First "God's Eye View" game I ever heard of, or played. You played one of two (little "g") gods over a board of a "world", with a zoomed view. You could direct your followers in several ways, and do minor miracles, like raising/lowering land, earthquakes, volcanos, floods, swamps, etc. Normally the other god was computer-drive, though it had a multiplayer mode so you could play against someone else.

It came on 5.25" floppies.

Search terms of "populous" and "bullfrog" will get you to some good hits.

Re:Populous (1989/1990) by Bullfrog (1)

Brelkin (175293) | more than 9 years ago | (#10812481)

You're confusing a "god game", where you play as a god, with a "god-mode replay", where you can replay a small amount of play from an arbitrary perspective.

Yes, Populous was an early "god game", but certainly not the first one. Though I can't think of earlier examples.

Stunt island (1)

rafg (586519) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786417)

Definitely Stunt Island [the-underdogs.org] . Besides flying around an island pulling off all sorts of stunts, you could direct your own movies in a quite detailed way.

Myth (1)

bonHomm3 (732395) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786562)

Myth was one of the first games I remember to put special emphasis on the camera itself, gameplay was pretty good. But the camera thing was the big deal at the time. http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/89360.asp?q =myth

Indy 500 (1)

scudderfish (198700) | more than 9 years ago | (#10786796)

Indy 500 had replays back in 89-90 sort of time. Great for qualifying at the front of the grid and then standing on the brakes and swerving at the start :)

I'm sure Stunt Car Racer on the Amiga did a similar thing at a similar time.

Hi /. (1)

cavemanf16 (303184) | more than 9 years ago | (#10787132)

I've got this really silly Modern English research paper due in three weeks, and well, I figured since I'm an aspiring programmer and all I would show my teacher just how "smart" I am by requesting that you all do some research for me. What I need is all the information you can gather from around the web (c'mon, I'm far too lazy to goto - haha! get it?! - the liberry). I also want this information to be about video games and then.

ah crap. can you just write the dang paper for me?

There was a WWII dogfight game (1)

John Harrison (223649) | more than 9 years ago | (#10787341)

Release by either EA or LucasArts in the late 80s or early (pre 1992?) 90s that had a replay with several options for the camera angle. User controlled was one of the options. I'm too lazy to look up the name.

The flight simulator for the Apple ][ (1)

Muad'Dave (255648) | more than 9 years ago | (#10788381)


...had what you're talking about. This was circa 1983. You could either look out of the windshield or straight down on the (very small, gridded) "world". I had a ball flying and dogfighting with that thing, green-screen and all.

Slipstream 5000 (1)

scythian (46974) | more than 9 years ago | (#10788435)

A flying-things racing game where you could set all kinds of view angles / replays.

NES Play Action Football (1)

Lansphere (806219) | more than 9 years ago | (#10788743)

I believe that the 1990 NES Play Action Football had a fly-over instant replay option.

Zaxxon (1)

JCMay (158033) | more than 9 years ago | (#10788868)

The earliest game I can think of with the "God's-Eye View" perspective is Zaxxon [mobygames.com] . I can't believe nobody's mentioned it yet.

Re:Zaxxon (1)

JCMay (158033) | more than 9 years ago | (#10788940)

Duh-- no replay feature. I should read more carefully!

Tie Fighter and X-Wing (1)

TheCamper (827137) | more than 9 years ago | (#10792657)

I remember Star Wars: Tie Fighter, which came out in 1994 had a pretty good 3D replay, controllable by the user. You could do slo-mo, speed up, pause, and switch from tons of different perspectives and angles. I'm not absolutely sure, but I think Star Wars: X-Wing, which came out in 1993, also had pretty much the same replay system.

4D Boxing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10797792)

Seem to rememeber lots of cams and maybe even replay in the boxing game 4D boxing - At least I think it was called 4 d boxing - You could build your own boxers via training and then duke it out in the ring... Neat game that was.

Ant Attack for the ZX-Spectrum 48 K (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10797855)

Ant attack had several camera angles so you could switch perspective in the 3D world of Giant Ants and exploding sleep grenades while you jumped about saving maidens in distress... aaahh the good old Sinclair.

Bullfrog (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10804826)

Just because I'm surprised it didn't come up...

Although they hardly had the *first* 3rd Person camera, they were one of the earliest games I know of to give the user control of the game perspective in real-time during combat--Bullfrog Entertainment's Syndicate War's and Dungeon Keeper. Circa 96/98 if memory serves properly.

Syndicate Wars even had a perspective that zoomed out high enough to be *almost* in space for when you were sending your little death squad around the city.

Excitebike Nintendo (1984) (1)

zloof (764703) | more than 9 years ago | (#10858217)

It's been years since I've played this game, but IIRC, you could replay a whole race. That alone was really awesome, but you could also design your own courses and save them on the cartridge. Granted, it took about 10 min. to do so, but I'd never seen a game that you could save stuff on before that one.
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