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Fox Starts TV Production For Cell Phones

CowboyNeal posted more than 9 years ago | from the auto-accidents-of-the-future dept.

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prostoalex writes "Broadcasting television to the cell phones, which few people were actually interested in, is becoming a reality pretty fast, as Fox started making mopisodes (one-minute episodes targeted specifically for the mobile phone screen) to be broadcast on Vodafone and Verizon networks. The Fox announcement timed perfectly with Vodafone launching a broad variety of 3G services in Europe."

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Will they come with blipverts? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10794892)

Max Headroom wants to know.

FOX (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10794894)

can we really trust a biased source like this to give us shitty 1 minute episodes? president bush strikes again.

I love Apple, but Fuck the South (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10794895)

Fuck the South. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers [] you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons [] in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence [] ? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries [] were? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments [] are up here in our backyard?

No, No. Get the fuck out. We're not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and fucking Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those fucking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for fucking blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten their fucking Subarus together and broken off from New York a little earlier. Get it? We started this shit, so don't get all uppity about how real you are you Johnny-come-lately Oooooh I've been a state for almost a hundred years [] dickheads. Fuck off.

Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being fucking arrogant? What's more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies [] ? I don't think so. Arrogance is the fucking cornerstone of what it means to be American. And I wouldn't be so fucking arrogant if I wasn't paying for your fucking bridges, bitch.

All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you [] , so shut up and enjoy your fucking Tennessee Valley Authority [] electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you're the ones who built on a fucking swamp. Let the Spanish keep it, it's a shithole, we said, but you had to have your fucking orange juice.

The next dickwad who says, It's your money, not the government's money is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least... can you guess? Go on, guess. That's right, motherfucker, they're red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It's too easy, asshole, they're blue states. It's not your money, assholes, it's fucking our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy your own fucking stop signs, assholes.

Let's talk about those values for a fucking minute. You and your Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values over you fucking Real Americans every day of the goddamn week. Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate you marriage-hyping dickwads? Well? Can you guess? It's fucking Massachusetts [] , the fucking center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that's right, the state you love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the fucking nation. Think that's just some aberration [] ? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are fucking blue states, asshole, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to fucking guess? 10 of the top 10 are fucking red-ass we're-so-fucking-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt [] is doing its fucking part.

But two guys making out is going to fucking ruin marriage for you? Yeah? Seems like you're ruining it pretty well on your own, you little bastards. Oh, but that's ok because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? Cause we fucking get to hear about it every goddamn year at election time. Yes, we're fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and then you're fucking towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that's a workable formula. Maybe us fucking Northerners don't talk about religion as much as you because we're not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous assholes? No, you're too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten Commandments [] in buildings paid for by the fucking Northeast Liberal Elite. And who has the highest murder rates [] in the nation? It ain't us up here in the North, assholes.

Well this gravy train is fucking over. Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical bullshit and shove it up your ass.

And no, you can't have your fucking convention in New York next time. Fuck off.

Re:I love Apple, but Fuck the South (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795401)


Re:I love Apple, but Fuck the South (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795418)

Looks like the whole country is red... not just the "south"

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CNN Coverage (4, Informative)

calibanDNS (32250) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794898)

CNN's coverage can be found here [] .

Re:CNN Coverage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10794919)

Why is this modded informative? It's the exact same Associated Press article.

USA Today: The Twentieth Century Fox studio, a veteran of the big screen and the TV screen, is about to break into an entirely new realm: the really little screen, the kind that comes on a cell phone.

CNN: The Twentieth Century Fox studio, a veteran of the big screen and the TV screen, is about to break into an entirely new realm: the really little screen, the kind that comes on a cell phone.

Re:CNN Coverage (2, Interesting)

SbooX (181758) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794949)

Well then I guess this link to Google News [] is pretty useless too, eh?

Fox News? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10794901)

And thus begins phase 2 of the American Propaganda Initiative

Oh boy! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10794910)

Star Wars Narrow Screen Edition.

Re:Oh boy! (2, Funny)

whiteranger99x (235024) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794917)

Wow! That Death Star sure blew up that dust speck Alderaan really bad! :P


Spunk (83964) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795216)

(no message)

Re:Oh boy! (2, Funny)

JurgenThor (675394) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795177)

And you will barely be able to tell who shoots first!

WTF (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10794916)

What an insanely stupid idea. One minute TV episodes for the cell phone. Can someone please point me to the place where they give jobs like this out, to come up with incredibly stupid ideas like this?

Instead of spending the money on this, FOX might as well have just spent the money on sexual harassment training.

Re:WTF (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795019)

it's incredible, isn't it?

but the phone companies are desperate to find a use for all their gadgetry other than talking to someone a long way away, without having to shout.

got any better ideas?

Re:WTF (2)

tuxter (809927) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795028)

And it's FOX, it's debateable if any of their full length programming is of any virtue either...

Re:WTF (0)

erick99 (743982) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795066)

While that's a popular and reflexive opinion on SlashDot, I find that Fox has some good original programming and some very good sports coverage. I don't watch Fox for political coverage nor for the "talking head" shows so I don't have that particularly axe to grind.

Re:WTF (5, Insightful)

erick99 (743982) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795034)

People are nuts. They want the tiniest cell phone possible, and then they want full motion/realtime video on it as well as a huge amount of memory for an MP3 player, add some circuitry for GPS, and whatever else. Do people really want to watch tv on their phone? Maybe this trend has more to do with people never being home because they have to or choose to work insane hours and also run kids back and forth and try to do other things as well. We are a Type A society I suppose. If it's gotten so bad that watching tv on a cell phone seems like a good idea, well, then, it's gotten pretty bad.

Re:WTF (2, Insightful)

MidnightBrewer (97195) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795365)

Live in a country where your daily commute is an hour-and-a-half train ride one way, and perhaps you'll begin to see the justification.

Re:WTF (2, Insightful)

meme_police (645420) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795386)

Why would I do that? I walk to work in 15 minutes. I'd rather live close to work in a 100 sq ft apartment shared with 12 other people than take 1 1/2 hour train ride.

Re:WTF (2, Funny)

corian (34925) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795408)

Live in a country where your daily commute is an hour-and-a-half train ride one way, and perhaps you'll begin to see the justification.

A one-minute TV program isn't going to take that much of a bite out of your one-and-a-half hour comute, though...

Don't forget the all-important vibrator function (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795372)


Re:WTF (1)

Mikey-San (582838) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795070)

Actually, I'd wager that the budget for these one-minute cell phone episodes actually came out of the FOX News ethics training budget.

Re:WTF (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795151)

What an arrogant asshole you are.

Re:WTF (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795229)

You've confused Fox with CBS.

Re:WTF (1)

PickyH3D (680158) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795085)

> Can someone please point me to the place where they give jobs like this out, to come up with incredibly stupid ideas like this? Look into "marketing" . The really sad thing is that people will probably like this... just like the whole ad campaign idea where you NEVER see the product being advertised.

Re:WTF (1)

EnronHaliburton2004 (815366) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795190)

Can someone please point me to the place where they give jobs like this out, to come up with incredibly stupid ideas like this?

Sadly, stupid ideas like this are commonplace in Fortune 500 companies.

I swear, they pay people good money to waste the companies money on poorly planned projects.

My dotcom company was aquired by a big Fortune 500 company. They want to replace our product with their own product. Fair enough.

Huge chunks of this technical project were planned, and the entire budget was allocated, without input from a single technical person! Their initial plan? We can do this in 2 months for $2 million dollars.

That was 5 months ago. Today, they are millions of dollars into the project, millions over budget, and the deadline is now a year away. They payed $1.5 million to IBM for the DB2, Websphere and some special 'portal software'.

One of the executives behind this decision is sitting there grinning like a baffoon... the other one is sitting on a beach after he cashed out his $3 Million in stock.

But don't blame me, we warned them that their idea was going to fail... but haha, they can't get rid of the legacy sites until they replace 'em with the new sites so I still have a job for the time being.

Re:WTF (2, Funny)

Amiga Lover (708890) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795430)

Can someone please point me to the place where they give jobs like this out, to come up with incredibly stupid ideas like this?

The idea was pretty obvious after looking at the attention span of most cellphone users.

1minute episodes ? commericals (5, Insightful)

sPaKr (116314) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794918)

I thought the correct term for a one minute episode was commercial. I cant belive people are going to pay for that.

Re: 1minute episodes ? commericals (1)

Alwin Henseler (640539) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795080)

Yes, and it's getting even better: just wait until spammers find a cheap (to them) way of broadcasting such 1-minute 'infomercials'...

Get your phone number listed in the wrong place -> throw away your phone.

Re: 1minute episodes ? commericals (1)

Trejkaz (615352) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795148)

It would cost to send the rubbish, at the moment... but you could use Bluetooth and just push the advertisement to unwilling pedestrians in the vicinity of your advertising nodes.

Re:1minute episodes ? commericals (3, Funny)

cyfer2000 (548592) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795185)

maybe fox just made a big investment in battery industry.

Re:1minute episodes ? commericals (1)

cgenman (325138) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795279)

Well, 1 minute is all the worthwile content Fox puts into it's programming anyway, and that's as long as it's on the air before they cancel it.

Think of it this way, for a few dollars you can see an entire season of bad programming in just a few minutes. Isn't your time worth that much?

Re:1minute episodes ? commericals (1)

mordors9 (665662) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795339)

NO, it will be one minute blurbs of pr0n, just in case you can't make it home with out a little shot ;-)

Re:1minute episodes ? commericals (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795494)

Who watches porn without beating off?

I can see it now, a train carriage filled with people beating off to their mobile phones.

"Mopisode" (4, Interesting)

tepples (727027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794922)

"Mopisode"? I thought a one-minute dramatic episode was called a "trailer".

Re:"Mopisode" (2, Informative)

That's Unpossible! (722232) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794971)

No, a trailer is a preview for an upcoming movie. It is called a trailer because it used to trail the movies. Then the marketing guys came in and said, "Hey, more people will watch these movie ads if we stick them at the FRONT of the movie!"

However, I do believe mopisode is stupid sounding and probably/hopefully won't catch on.

Re:"Mopisode" (1)

quarkscat (697644) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795047)

Oh, yeah. Just what we need now.

First, there was ... "SPAM".
Then, there was ... "SPIM".
Now, we have ...... "SPAT".

('Cause a one minute dramatic episode sure
isn't a "mopisode", but is a "trailer".)

Am I really missing something here? Is this
something that people need from their cell
phones? (Okay, a one minute episode of p0rn
might be interesting, but not if it's used to
sell automobiles or laundry soap.) FOX needs
to pull their heads out of that dark stinky
place, and put the kabosh on this brainfart.

The distraction of driving while using a cell
phone has already drawn the legal ire of a
number of states and localities, and rightly
so. Watching a FOX "mopisode" could be deadly.

(I wonder if they have run this past their
legal department, instead of just marketing.
It sounds like a good way to lose way more
revenue from lawsuits than they would ever
get from advertising.)

Other places to watch trailers on a phone (2, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795089)

The distraction of driving while using a cell phone has already drawn the legal ire of a number of states and localities, and rightly so. Watching a FOX "mopisode" could be deadly.

Who's to say a driver would be watching such programs? Ever heard of carpooling or public transportation (bus, train, etc), the same places Nintendo expects grown-ups to touch their DS systems?

I for one... (1)

balaam's ass (678743) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794930)

...welcome our new cell-phone-enhancing-ad-absurdam overlords.

But the term "mopisodes" is a tragedy. I hope it doesn't stick.

Mobile hazard (5, Funny)

Lancaibheal (813222) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794931)


Now I have to watch out for morons watching TV on their mobile phones while they drive their souped-up 4WDs in rush hour traffic.

Thanks, Fox!

Re:Mobile hazard (1)

whiteranger99x (235024) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794969)

Yeah, and wait until they have cars that have TV screens built into them with Video Games or DVD inputs....oh wait, those already exist :P

Re:Mobile hazard (1)

Craig Ringer (302899) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795175)

Oh, crap. I'm a cyclist. Or should I say soon-to-be-ex-cyclist if this hits Australia.

The sort of people this is already a problem with are _exactly_ the sort of people who would watch sitcom update snippets. *uggh*.

Re:Mobile hazard (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795252)

Cyclists are a huge pain in the ass on the highways. I have no sympathy for you. Ride your bike in a park or somewhere. I don't hug trees or cry crocodile tears for the imagined death of the environment. You people are tiresome as all hell. At least if you get hit by cars you are less likely to reproduce and create more whiney idiots.

Re:Mobile hazard (4, Insightful)

Craig Ringer (302899) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795403)

You'd be a tad more credible if you felt like putting your name to your post.

As it happens, I agree with you. Cyclists and major roads/highways/freeways do not mix. The difference is that instead of saying "so cyclists should get off the road" I say "I'm paying for this, and can expect decent transport infrastructure too." When roads are upgraded, it's not hard to add a bike path or a cycle lane or two, nor does it take much space. In general, I strongly prefer to stick to cycleways anyway, and in Perth (Western Australia) that's usually a viable option.

On minor roads, however - a cyclist has as much right to use the road as anybody else. It is entirely reasonable to expect not to be wiped out by morons just because they can't be bothered looking where they're going. Paying attention isn't hard. When it comes to the speed issue, at worst people have to slow down for 30s until there's a decent place to pass, and only because that bit of road is too stupidly cramped. Deal with it. Seriously.

As for the insults and generalisations, my thoughts about giant-truck driving redneck hicks are similar - but I'm not making the assumption that you are one like you've made unreasonable assumptions about me (despite the strong temptation to do so).

I must note, also, that I've met more than a few winy idiots myself. Some have been cyclists - and really, painfully bitchy about it. The sort of people who will tell someone who lives 30km from their work in a country that hits 40C in summer that they don't need a car. The temptation to beat them to death is strong. A similar temptation exists for intolerant morons who assume all cyclists are like that and who think they're the only ones whose needs matter.

Re:Mobile hazard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795240)

People who makes this type of comment usually can't afford the toys that provoke their shrill ire.

One minute episodes? (3, Funny)

wrinkledshirt (228541) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794934)

Well, at least they're making disinformation more efficient.

[ducks and covers]

How bout that... (1)

SbooX (181758) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794936)

Guess I'm part of the 26% who don't give a fuck.

Re:How bout that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795106)

It saddens my heart that only 26% don't give a fuck.

Re:How bout that... (1)

MacWiz (665750) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795223)

I think you're misunderestimating us.

Reality? (2, Interesting)

nerd256 (794968) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794937)

"Broadcasting television to the cell phones, which few people were actually interested in, is becoming a reality pretty fast"

TV Phone has two factors to become a big hit
(1) The technology has to be available
(2) People have to shell out the money for it

The technology is available, which, granted, is a large step and testimony to technological projects. However, people must buy/subscribe this technology which no doubt will be very expensive. I for one would not throw a pretty penny at something I could get by turning on my public telivision. Take for example, the small tvs that are sold and the small toys which play pre-recorded clips off of cartriges. Despite their availability, I haven't yet seen their overwhelming presence in society. Besides, it is one thing to listen to a phone, or casually text-message. But to watch telivision on it is getting a bit extreme.

In addition, the technology still has a small way do go - it has to be affordable and compliant across many platforms.

For me, a decent RSS reader would be perfect. Slashdot is a far better resource than Fox.

Re:Reality? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795421)

Technically TV news streamed to your mobile phone is reality in Finland. The Finnish national TV provides news streams in 3GPP format (176x144 pixels, 15 fps) in Finnish, Swedish, Lappish, and English. News are free, weather forecast and sports news require a paid subscription. Point your favourite mobile phone browser to and see it yourself.

1 minute episodes based on 24? (2, Funny)

arbi (704462) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794943)

They could call it 1440

Re:1 minute episodes based on 24? (1)

Spunk (83964) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795205)

First funny comment this article.

Mod up, people.

moBisodes? (1)

Collision891 (814593) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794944)

as Fox started making mopisodes (one-minute episodes targeted specifically for the mobile phone screen)

not that it really matters but the article calls them mobisodes (from mobile i guess) either way its weird name, and weird to make have a show that's season takes place over the course of only one day, but now have episodes that are only minute

2 into 1? (1)

whiteranger99x (235024) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794947)

Well, that brings a new meaning to the term "idiot box" ;)

Convergence inevitable (1)

a.different.perspect (817184) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794948)

Today's world is busy, and people are allocating less and less time to leisure. Leisure seems to have become the time we spend between tasks, rather than time with its own importance. Often it is just the time we spend moving between work and home, both of which are essentially work environments now (both the family and workplace burdens are shared by both genders now). This is an attempt by Fox, a company that produces leisure activities that tether you to home, to overcome its intrinsic anachronism and make its product an activity relevant and feasible for today's citizens. That means shoving itself into coffee breaks or time spent on the bus. Convergence with a pre-existing, indispensible device is really the most pragmatic way of making TV portable. Hence this type of convergence is inevitable, and will be for as long as the TV companies seek profit.

What New Hell is This? (3, Funny)

rueger (210566) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794952)

Oh great now I can enjoy idiots on cel phones [] "sharing" fine Fox programming [] while I'm trying to enjoy my dinner in a restaurant.

As if their pointless yattering conversations weren't enough....

Why is it Different in the US? (5, Insightful)

Oyume (464420) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794956)

I wonder why Vodafones in the US aren't like the ones here in Japan -- The newer phones receive regular broadcast TV, no fees or special equipment required. On your Vodafone you can watch anything that's not on cable TV. Pretty nice. But I just don't get the whole "download and pay" gambit in the WEST...


Re:Why is it Different in the US? (1)

BurnFEST (684400) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795014)

Wow, that's really cool. Forget radio on your phone, I want one of those handsets!

Re:Why is it Different in the US? (4, Insightful)

cgenman (325138) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795248)

Roll-out of cellular products in the US is terribly, terribly slow. For one, uptake in the US is slow, with many people holding on to their phones until they break. For another, the US market is quite large but needs to be supported as a cohesive whole... As such if Verizon wants to try something out, they will wait until success is reasonably assured then do a full nationwide roll out. Japan is a smaller, less-risky market which has traditionally used cell phones in roles that in the west would have been filled by computers... as computer uptake was somewhat slower over there and internet access was more spotty.

Plus the carriers out here get to say what their customers use as phones, not vice-versa. Up until recently phones had to be flashed to a specific network provider and a specific user... the idea of buying a general purpose cell phone and finding a provider later is laughable here, despite being a perfectly functional model in Europe.

We expect the carrier to subsidise the cost of the phones, and then are shocked that we can't get any phone that has features they don't want us to have. Sigh. I'd say vote with your dollars, but we really don't have any choice here.

Re:Why is it Different in the US? (2, Informative)

Kintanon (65528) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795495)

I do customer service for Verizon Wireless. People in the US expect their phone provider to give them a new phone every 8 months or so for free. They expect this because they pay a monthly fee for their service. Somehow they think that the service doesn't cost Verizon anything to provide them, so their 39.99 a month is pure profit. We make about 1$ per month on each customer in profit. When customers go over their minutes we make more. But if every 8 months we give a phone to that customer that cost us 100$ to get from the manufacturer (And retails for 250) all of a sudden we've paid that customer to use our service. I just want to know why these customers feel like they are entitled to free stuff just because they paid their bill on time? Do cellphone customers in Europe and Japan do that?


Re:Why is it Different in the US? (1)

Choron (88276) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795404)

It's true they are free but frankly the reception totally sucks, at least from the models I tried. If you happen to be not too far from a TV transmitter that's alright but most of the time the picture is too grainy to be watchable. I tried one in a more rural area of central Japan and of course it couldn't receive anything.

Vodafone will certainly provide digital channels reception in the future but given the audience I wouldn't expect very interesting contents (Mini Moni anyone ?).

Re:Why is it Different in the US? (5, Insightful)

BlastM (663010) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795481)

_Not a troll_ just an observation.

I have never been to Japan, but from what I gather Japanese society is generally tech-profficient and consumers make educated decisions when buying electronics.

Apart from us geeks who are skeptical of big business at the best of times and paranoid at other times, western society will consume what the television tells it to, and is short-sighted enough not to realise that micro-payments add up quickly.

I'm an Australian, and I can see this happening right now. SMS and MMS has become a huge fad, as have mobile phones in general. Many young people now face debt problems after running up phone bills in the thousands and tens of thousands of dollars.

Broadband internet service is well below basic for a developed nation, but that's mostly attributed to the reelection of the conservative federal government that has sold half of the telecommunications utility that owns all the copper phone infrastructure and DSLAMs and most of the outgoing internet pipes.

The population just isn't tech-savvy enough to force the market to be competitive, and as a result we are all fucked over, although only the geeks (and the farmers in the outback who can barely make phone calls) can see it.

Hooray mobisodes! (2, Funny)

mg2 (823681) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794973)

And if they run the stream at 1800fps, you can watch an entire episode of of the OC in that one wonderful minute.

Before they do that... (4, Insightful)

infernalC (51228) | more than 9 years ago | (#10794975)

By gosh, I want Verizon to get rid of those fast-busy signals around rush hour and all those dead spots on my way to work. Cell service just plain sucks for a lot of us out here.

Re:Before they do that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795267)

Are you admitting to talking on your phone while driving to work during rush hour?

On slashdot?

Good luck ;)

Mospisodes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10794988)

Will they be silent features or will the spikes be removed from Isp and Osp?

Really common here in Korea (3, Informative)

Jack Porter (310054) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795027)

The 3G phones here can do streaming video (including cable TV) and it's really common to see my coworkers watching the latest movie trailer on their phones.

You pay per packet, and for content for some 'premium' stuff like music videos, and it's a relatively closed system so the telco and the content providers love it.

mod d0w8 (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795039)

Guys are usually is dying. Fact: blue, rubbe8 Future. The hand for a living got AASOCIATION OF new faces and many the same operation

propaganda (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795051)

Leave me alone! Arrrgh, it's in my brain now. I think I'm losing my mind. Obey, conform, consume, don't question authority... you unpatriotic terrorist satan loving communist.

Great (2, Funny)

Ambient_Developer (825456) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795053)

So now fox can run up my cell phone bandwidth bill, excellent!

I don't get it (2, Interesting)

thpr (786837) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795063)

I MIGHT (stress might) pay for a quick snippet of the end of the World Cup, Stanley Cup final, or World Series if I happened to be out and not able to actually see the same live. However, I can't see buying anything specifically for a cell phone screen. Too small, drains my battery, I'm not out wandering or driving somewhere in order to watch TV.

Not to mention that on a price per bit basis this will be something like 100,000x as expensive as cable television.

Of course, I think paying for ringtones is a dumb idea, too; but that's a multi-billion dollar industry!

cool east/west contrast (2, Interesting)

wintermute1000 (731750) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795067)

I went to a presentation a month or so ago on how technology is used in not-America (it baffles the best of us!) and the speaker spent some time on a service in China where by one could subscribe to a serialized novella on the cell phone; I believe the installments were delivered during peak commute hours, and some huge percentage of the population of China signed up. Now, obviously, that's not as easy to do in English because we use letters, so we can't fit as much story on a tiny screen. I was wondering whether a development like this would come up so that we in the States, too, can get fictional content on our phones.

I suppose the answer is yes, then. Cool...I'd still rather read than watch a commercial-length piece of film on a teeny screen, though.

Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795074)

We're back to the short film featurettes of the early 20th century.

Aye Carumba (2, Funny)

FerretFrottage (714136) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795079)

3G is not toon porn
3G is not toon porn
3G is not toon porn

Mobisodes - news for the angry mob (1)

Magickcat (768797) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795082)

Fox News is aimed at the pitchfork wielding angry mob carrying torches type, so I guess it's only common sense that they have mobisodes.

Re:Mobisodes - news for the angry mob (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795268)

Upscale people like you prefer CBS where the news is what you want it to be even if it has to be "changed" a wee bit first.

Plausible, but unneeded. (1)

ssand (702570) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795087)

It's possible to put a cartoon, or comedy clip in 1 minute or several minute, I know the old disney cartoons are about 5 or 6 minutes. That wouldn't be too bad, but the size of the screens are so small that it is rather useless to watch anything that long. Games are one thing, since most are pretty simple, but there's alot of crap that is in a scene, unless you are doing closeups of someone's nose.

Enough! (1)

jonnystiph (192687) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795095)

So what about the poor bastards (like myself) around these people on public transportation. My guess is commuters would have to the one of the larger markets. Do they include head phones with the phone? It sounds like a silly question, but really...

so much greed... (3, Interesting)

terrymaster69 (792830) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795144)

This is just silly. (actually just greedy) Vodafone already sells phones that have TV tuners built into them - the image is adjusted to fit the resolution of the screen. You can buy them here in Japan, I presume other countries as well. To have Fox create something for this "new 3G service" just means a new revenue stream. Just build the tuner into the phone, let people pick up the TV they want. (TV sucks the world over though, just seems like a waste of precious battery time)

Sweet! (1)

jcflyer (631282) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795195)

Will they air One Minute Porn?? :)

Uggh (3, Interesting)

BHearsum (325814) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795196)

I need not post my bitching for the fourth time, but I'm still so sick of these cellphones with all this crap on it. I think it's because people want everything, but only want to pay for one device. I don't know why some people don't worry about quality at all. I don't watch TV much, but I certainly don't want to watch it on a 1'' screen.

It's a Walmart civilization these days. People are told they want the absolute cheapest thing out there, nevermind quality. What is the point in paying for something that only half-works? People buy cellphones that have horrible reception and sound quality -- makes it quite useless as a phone. I work as a computer service technician; we get people in on a daily basis demanding to know why their shit broke. HMM! I don't know. PCchips motherboard, generic ram, FORSA video card. Fujitsu hard drive...Liteon optical. I don't understand these people. They want the world, but they don't want to pay. I used to buy cheap crap. THEN IT BROKE. Then I realized that there is a bit of truth to 'you get what you pay for', at least, for tangible things. After buying a few cheap electronics I decided NO MORE. I don't buy something to have it stop working in a few months.

And in case anyone is wondering, I finally found a phone that works so god damned well as phone. Motorola i90c. I'm using it on the Mike network (ie. iDen) and it's amazing. I get full signal everywhere I've been so far, in places where I got no signal with my Nokia piece of crap.

Re:Uggh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795432)

Aww, c'mon, don't be too hard on Fujitsu. Their engineering was fine, Cirrus's new chip epoxy screwed them, and management sure did fsck what should have been a rapid recall.

As to everything else, somewhat agreed, but I think a prime mover for this sort of crap is the opposite; the sense of money spent = quality gained. Does paying a crapload for a limited cellphone really improve your quality of life? Did paying for Windows? It's all a "rationalized" incarnation of bling, the idea that being subscribed to these debt-building 'services' somehow make you a happier person.

Same goes for these blipverts -- "Ooh, check it out, *my* phone can play these videos." Might help you kill time at the airport, but wouldn't a general-purpose device (that could, say, let you waste time with Doom, at least?) serve the purpose better?

People don't know what they want. The PCChips board probably did everything they actually wanted to do (if it wasn't one of the ones with horrible unfixed bugs) ... would having shilled for a Dell have made the same experience of e-mail checking and viewing (the equivalent of perceiving this canned content) better?

People, plain and simply, don't know what they want... and/or, sometimes all they really 'wanted' was the sense that the salesperson who sold them the right screwdriver for their nail cared about them in the first place. At least, that's the only way I can explain it.

Re:Uggh (1)

sockonafish (228678) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795485)

What the hell is wrong with Lite-On!?

Re:Uggh (1)

evilviper (135110) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795508)

Then I realized that there is a bit of truth to 'you get what you pay for', at least, for tangible things. After buying a few cheap electronics I decided NO MORE. I don't buy something to have it stop working in a few months.

I used-to agree with you completely... THEN IT BROKE! Yes, if you think it's a pain when you buy a cheap piece of junk that breaks, you should try buying an insanely expensive piece of junk, and have it break anyhow.

I don't buy crap from Lite-on or NEC, but at the same time, I certainly can't bring myself to pay 3Xs as much, when it's not very much better.

The solution is for the STORES to go through the work of testing products, and only selling those that are half decent. In addition to having customers trust that they aren't getting crap, the stores have the added benefit of lower prices, due many sales of one product, rather than those sales divided among seperate products, further lowering the price.

Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795198)

It's like a 21st century flip book. ys _-_flip_books.html

Yay (1)

fetus (322414) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795232)

Now you can be lied to and brainwashed when you are away from the tv!

Now Bill Orielly can harass you on your cell! (1)

syslog (535048) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795275)

Just what we needed. They will probably use these "mopisodes" to push more right wing crap down our throats.

*What* an amazingly stupid idea...


Re:Now Bill Orielly can harass you on your cell! (1)

Tobril (202224) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795380)

Actually FOX will show Fear Factor bloopers, like where the people get eaten while swimming with sharks.

technology that nobody asked for (2, Insightful)

rtphokie (518490) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795336)

this one tops the list. Just because it's possible doesn't mean it needs to be done.

One minute equals... (3, Funny)

DoktorSeven (628331) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795344)

45 seconds of commercials, 5 seconds of the FOX logo ("You're watching FOX Fone!"), and 10 seconds of actual content.

I'll pass, thanks.

Better hang on with (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795347)

TWO hands, 'cause the fair-and-balanced-ness might tip you off two feet.

So now... (2, Funny)

Phidoux (705500) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795353)

... I can talk and watch at the same time. I always knew that having an eye in my ear would come in handy one day.

First Mover Advantage (1)

Che Guevarra (85906) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795359)

This one is a quick market. Anyone who knows anything about market strategy will tell you that the first one in gets to set the price, product name, and features of the product category. It's valuable to the maker to be in there before the competitors.

Re:First Mover Advantage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10795462)

yeah, but that assumes the market will exist. I don't think there's anyone who will buy it.

Wow (2, Insightful)

Yaa 101 (664725) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795388)

Neocon propaganda in cellphone format, isn't the world wonderfull?

WTF? (1)

affliction (242524) | more than 9 years ago | (#10795402)

Why the fuck would you want to watch TV on your god damned cell phone? That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard.

I see absolutely no redeeming feature here.
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