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Half-Life 2 Finally Activated

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the this-is-a-video-game-apparently dept.

PC Games (Games) 736

Thomas Scovell writes "After over half a decade of development, stolen source code debacle, a promised deadline that was missed by a year, and a feud between the developer and the publisher that is still in court, Half-Life 2 has finally started to activate for those who have purchased online via Steam online or who grabbed the boxed version at the retailers that let it slip early. Go play!" Reviews are available via Gamespot, Gamespy, HomeLAN Fed, and IGN.

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No net connection (2, Interesting)

psergiu (67614) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828098)

So this game is unplayable if i have no internet connection ?

Re:No net connection (0)

moon-monster (712361) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828112)

You don't have to get it over steam... You can buy it from a store if you like, with no connection required.

Re:No net connection (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828119)

You still can't play it without connecting to steam during the installation.

Re:No net connection (5, Funny)

RonnyJ (651856) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828158)

So this game is unplayable if i have no internet connection ?

I'm not quite sure how you've got first post then ;)

Re:No net connection (2, Funny)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828213)

Do not underestimate the power of the RFC 1149 [faqs.org] . They need careful fine tuning, but if done right, the results are mind boggling. :-)

Re:No net connection (2, Informative)

hexMonkey (809664) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828277)

If you look carefully, most retailers have made sure the "Internet Required" is in the Minimum Specs

Don't buy HL2!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828101)

Lets talk about Jon Carmack. Jon is the legendary programmer of such classic PC games as Wolfenstein, Doom, Duke nukem 3d, Quake 1, 2, and 3, unreal, and the upcoming doom3. Jon has single handedly created the genre known as the first-person-shooter. He has also popularized the OpenGL 3d format over Microsoft's competing Direct3d format, as well as caused public interest in 3d cards when he first released accelerated quake for the s3 virge chipset. Jon carmack has redefined gaming on PC's.

Now stop for a moment and think, What would have happened if Albert Einstein had worked creating amazing pinball games instead of creating the theory of relativity? Humanity would suffer! Jon carmack is unfortunately doing JUST THIS, using his gifts at computer coding to create games instead of furthering the knowledge of humanity. Carmack could have been working for NASA or the US military, but instead he simply sits around coding violent computer games.

Is this a waste of a special and rare talent? Sadly, the answer is yes.

Unfortunately, it doesn't stop there. Not only is Jon carmack not contributing to society, he is causing it's downfall. What was the main reason for the mass murder of dozens of people in columbine? Doom. It's always the same story: Troubled youth plays doom or quake, he arms himself to the teeth, he kills his classmates. This has happened hundreds of times in the US alone. Carmack is not only wasting his talents and intelligence; he is single-handedly causing the deaths of many young men and women. How does he sleep at night?

Carmack is a classic example of a very talented and intelligent human being that is bent on total world destruction. Incredibly, he has made millions of dollars getting people hooked on psychotic games where they compete on the internet to see who can dismember the most people. I believe there is something morally wrong when millions of people have computerized murder fantasies, and we have Jon Carmack to thank. Carmack has used his superior intellect to create mayhem in society. Many people play games such as quake so much that their minds are permanently warped. A cousin of mine has been in therapy for 6 months after he lost a 'death match' and became catatonic.

It is unfortunate that most people do not realize how much this man has damaged all the things we have worked hard for in America. Jon has wasted his intelligence, caused the deaths of innocent children, and warped this country forever. To top it off, he got rich in the process and is revered by millions of computer users worldwide. Perhaps one day the US government will see the light and confine Jon Carmack somewhere with no computers so he can no longer use his intelligence to wreak havoc on society.

Re:Don't buy HL2!!! (0, Flamebait)

hivbus (809067) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828116)

You are an idiot. http://www.ohnoes.org/

Re:Don't buy HL2!!! (0, Offtopic)

hexMonkey (809664) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828117)

I can't wait till dailight, when parent gets turned to stone.

Re:Don't buy HL2!!! (0, Troll)

ZeroExistenZ (721849) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828135)

and the upcoming doom3

???

Personally I think that someone has still the right to decide him-, her- or itself what to do with ones own time.
This is a private sector too, NASA isn't. Games bring in the big monnies enabling you to just push your skills a bit further, and doing the things you dreamed about doing. -as in creating revolutionar games.

I can see how one could find more satisfaction in entertaining millions then thinking out ways / helping out to kill millions.

Re:Don't buy HL2!!! (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828152)

> Carmack could have been working for NASA or the US military,
...
>he is single-handedly causing the deaths of many young men and women.

So instead of responsible of killing hundreds or thousands he is responsible of killing just a few. I think that is good.

Re:Don't buy HL2!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828159)

What the fuck?

What does Jon Carmack have to do with HL2?

Is this a thread-rip from a Doom3 thread?

Re:Don't buy HL2!!! (0)

funkygibbin (521611) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828179)

We should also call the guy that invented plastic (Alexander Parkes with with a plastic-like goo) a pathetic excuse for a human, because his only intention was to make disposable plastic coffee cups - what a waste! Why didn't he do something useful with his life! Then again, without the field of plastics, our lives would be vastly different, including medicine; flight; agriculture; ....

Jon's games and code have advanced the field of personal real-time 3D graphics as a whole, not simply first-person shooters. Without the pressures which Carmack and friends brought to bear on the graphics cards manufacturers the 3D graphics market would still be insignificant. The positive effects of this research has and will continue to be profound. Virtually every game currently under development has a 3D component to it.

  • Strategy games (WC3)
  • Flight sims
  • The Sims
  • First person shooters
  • Role playing games
Think on the profound changes that are likely over the next 5-10 years within the 3D graphics / simulation space. Imagine if all we had to look forward to in gaming was yet another side-scrolling game...

The foundations for the sweeping vista that is the real-time 3D graphics space was laid by one man: John Carmack.

Re:Don't buy HL2!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828272)

Definitely! When the revolution comes, Carmack will be sent to a re-education camp in Northern China.

Hello!? (-1, Offtopic)

ByteSlicer (735276) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828102)

It's suddenly very quiet out here...

Re:Hello!? (1)

deconvolution (715827) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828113)

they are busy on ordering

Re:Hello!? (0, Offtopic)

ByteSlicer (735276) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828136)

Not really offtopic. Just that it's very unusual on ./ to have a 5min pause before first post... Either a server hickup or everyone left the forum to check something out.

Too long (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828103)

w00t! GO HL2! Finally :)

It's been too long. Way too long.

timezone (2, Interesting)

Bog Standard (743863) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828104)

I was wondering if this was going to be 12.00 AM GMT, EST or PST. Looks like it was PST.

Re:timezone (1)

citizenc (60589) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828130)

PST. Where Valve is. :)

Re:timezone (2, Insightful)

DigitumDei (578031) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828190)

Shit shit shit shit!!!!

6 more hours at work before I can get home. This is going to be the slowest day ever...

Re:timezone (1)

obii (196264) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828217)

Go home, tell them you are sick ;)

Re:timezone (4, Funny)

DigitumDei (578031) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828223)

The problem with working at an IT company, is all the managers know HL2 just got released.

Time to take some leave I think. :)

yay halflife2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828105)

I might buy it this time

well... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828106)

Duke Nukem Forever will be better !!

ahem...

Re:well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828144)

the "ahem" means I wasn't serious...

tell me the truth, are admins bots ?

(dunno if it's a correct english sentence btw)

Steam is taking a pounding.... (1, Informative)

ttlgDaveh (798546) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828107)

It is taking an absolute age to unlock the game files.
Released: November 16th - Playable: November 21st.

Yeeeeehaaaaaa! (5, Funny)

d2_m_viant (811261) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828111)

Yeeeeeehaaaaaa!

So much for the rest of this college semester. Between this and Halo2, I'll be lucky if I even come in contact with a female during the next 3 months...

Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828121)

s/3 months/lifetime/g

but we all know that's nothing unusual for this sorry nigger

Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! (5, Funny)

thatJoshGuy (701935) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828180)

You're posting to Slashdot dude, like there was a chance of that happening anyway.

Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! (5, Funny)

Kwaichang (752179) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828186)

So much for the rest of this college semester. Between this and Halo2, I'll be lucky if I even come in contact with a female during the next 3 months... Good to see you have your priorities straight.

Re:Yeeeeehaaaaaa! (1, Funny)

Motherfucking Shit (636021) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828229)

Between this and Halo2, I'll be lucky if I even come in contact with a female during the next 3 months...
No worries, at least you'll be coming in contact with plenty of terrorists. That alone will get you on the network news, which in turn will get you plenty of chicks! Vive la guerre!

Valve Deserves an Appaluse (4, Interesting)

citizenc (60589) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828115)

I've seen a number of reviews say that Half-Life 2 is the best FPS of all time. After playing it even for only the hour that I have (I have a Social Psychology mid-term tomorrow morning ;), I can tell you that it is, hands down.

I have to commend Valve for doing it right. They didn't rush. They didn't over-hype. They didn't fuck it up. =)

I believe Valve deserves a round of applause. Half-Life 2 is a masterpiece.

*Applause*

Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse (1)

He Who Has No Name (768306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828126)

The truly amazing part is that unlike id, who up until (and some would argue, including) Doom 3 simply made an engine and slapped some quick levels together to show it off, Valve has simultaneously developed a whole new engine, AND a damn cool GAME, AND redone previous work to run in the new engine, AND polished their dev tools for public consumption. Depending upon just how easy / powerful Source turns out to be, they might end up beating Carmack at his own game.

Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse (4, Interesting)

citizenc (60589) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828142)

Agreed. I remember seeing the first screenshots of Half-Life in PC Gamer (it was a guy in green, in a checkered hallway, if memory serves), and thinking "wow, that looks like Quake".

Releasing Half-Life: Source was a pretty kick-ass idea as well -- I know a lot of people who have never PLAYED Half-Life, but given that the graphics were rather dated by today's standards, I don't think I could get them to pay attention. Now I can. =)

Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse (4, Interesting)

Coryoth (254751) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828181)

The truly amazing part is that unlike id, who up until (and some would argue, including) Doom 3 simply made an engine and slapped some quick levels together to show it off

Anyone who thinks the levels in Doom 3 were "slapped together" to show off the engine should spend a little time designing levels. The general design, lighting, sound design (which was surprisngly important for some levels), and all around attention to detail in Doom 3 was very impressive. Whether you were a fan of the gameplay or not, you would be a fool to claim the levels were "thrown together".

Quake I... well, you might have an argument there. Some truly excellent levels, some appalling levels, and a surprising hodge podge of inconsistent design - that speaks of a certain amount of "slapped together".

Jedidiah.

Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse (1)

bani (467531) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828262)

the game was a tech demo of the doom3 engine, but the they most certainly did not "slap some quick levels together to show it off". the levels are huge and very complex and if you take the time to examine them with noclip, you'll realize it took a long time to make them.

Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828169)

I do recommend Citezenc for asslicking right. He rushes. He over-hype. He does suck it up.

*Applause*

Re:Valve Deserves an Appaluse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828207)

I have to agree, this game is absolutely stunning... been playing it for just under 2 hours now and I am amazed :-D Well worth the wait, good job Valve!

HL2 is gonna take some beating...

HL2 = HL1 clone (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828118)

It's not original at all. I've watched my roommate playing it, and it's the same old stuff with better graphics. Physics = eye candy.

Glad I passed on getting it now, because I buy games for their gameplay. Once the mods come along and the bargains hit I might consider it.

Re:HL2 = HL1 clone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828132)

It's not original at all. I've watched my roommate playing it, and it's the same old stuff with better graphics.

Well I for one enjoyed the gameplay in the "same old stuff".

Re:HL2 = HL1 clone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828171)

I agree.

I downloaded it over Steam, and in my opinion, its just another Quake II-type FPS with better (much better) graphics.

When will developers finally realise that even though you may develop a game based on an existing genre, you can still include some original concepts! Thief, Deus EX, System Shock were all wonderful First Person Shooter games which didn't rely on extensive graphic engines to be revolutionary.

Half Life II just shows, that in the game industry creativity and gameplay are always second to eye candy.

Re:HL2 = HL1 clone (3, Insightful)

richy freeway (623503) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828208)

You sure he wasn't accidently playing Half Life : Source?

Re:HL2 = HL1 clone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828278)

I've watched my roommate playing it, and it's the same old stuff with better graphics.

It's been available for 1 hour and 39 minutes at the time you posted that. You're talking about "Counterstrike: Source", surely? That was the same old stuff with better graphics. Not that I liked the old stuff (Counterstrike) to begin with, running around shooting the digital aliases of socially handicapped 14-year-olds (wash, rinse, repeat) was never my idea of fun.

Marvellous single-players like Half Life and Half Life 2 on the other hand... Oh my god!

Hell yea! (3, Funny)

cloudkj (685320) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828128)

Yeah! Halo 2, WoW Beta, and now Half-Life 2! Say good bye to my GPA!

Pheew (1)

LosManos (538072) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828137)

No I can finally start breathing again. Have held my breath since source leak.

Leeeeeets play!

The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL (3, Interesting)

MightyPez (734706) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828140)

I remember all the previews and special edition magazines that had the same theme, "Who will come out on top: Halo 2, Doom 3, or Hal-Life 2?"

To be honest, I was rooting for Half-Life 2. I always respected Valve's commitment to their community in their support of their game(s). Halo 2 was more of the same (yet somehow more fun than the first). Doom 3 was pretty, but had the personality of a tray of ice cubes.

I guess what I am trying to say in my own biased way, is, I'm glad I was backing Half-Life 2. So far I am not disappointed.

And by the way, has anyone noticed the excessive use of exploding barrels yet? It's like City 17 is a giant nitro nitro plant and they can't seem to keep track of the product.

Re:The 3 way battle: Halo, Doom, HL (2, Interesting)

Pulse_Instance (698417) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828270)

Lots of exploding barrels, and damn this thing called college, need to sleep so I actually might learn something tomorrow. I completely agree Half-Life 2 is the best out of the 3 and that is judging by the first hour alone.

I guess the idiots are happy (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828141)

..and yes, every single person who bought this game is an idiot. The product activation means you can't resell it if it turns out to be a piece of crap, and it also means you won't be able to replay the game in a few years on the off chance that it turns out to be decent.

I suppose the people who bought it deseve it because they're sure too stupid to live.

Re:I guess the idiots are happy (3, Funny)

Grandmasta (612724) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828167)

...So I guess you're a Halo 2 fan?

Re:I guess the idiots are happy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828236)

World of Warcraft actually. Just one more week <evilgrin>

Re:I guess the idiots are happy (1)

kazoosandinstruments (717278) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828219)

I didn't read the license, but nothing that I know of prevents you from buying it, deciding it's shit, and selling/trading the password to your Steam account (which has a resettable e-mail address associated with it.) ... The new "owner" can then change the password and e-mail address, and delete all the friends (or, hell, even keep them, haha!) and add his or her own.

Re:I guess the idiots are happy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828224)

What if you have other steam content?

Re:I guess the idiots are happy (1, Insightful)

Deliveranc3 (629997) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828249)

Cough, crack.

Perhaps a terrible pun but apt in this case I think.

It would have been nice if valve had promised to release some form of patch if Steam was ever to go down but c'est la vie, I'm sure I can find one elsewhere.

Re:I guess the idiots are happy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828279)

Its funny how that activation feature was designed to prevent piracy, but since its a hasle, it promotes it.

It appears that developers need to think "outside-of-the-box" for this and come up with something more effective.

That or use Open Source ideology!

Activation went off without a hitch (5, Informative)

NotAnotherReboot (262125) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828146)

I started up Steam precisely at 3:00AM, and had it tell me it was 'unlocking' (decrpyting) the files for the game. Minutes later, I was in game.

I played about 45 minutes when I swore to myself that all I would do is the intro. The game is just plain amazing, and runs pretty damn well on my computer with detail turned up (this is a 1.5 year old laptop).

Re:Activation went off without a hitch (1)

natd (723818) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828188)

I'm still DOWNLOADING something! I did the preinstall a month or so ago. Steams been running most times since then. Today I've punched in my CC ($64 australian for HL2 and Counterstrike Source) and it's doing some download that looks like it's going to take 2 hours on my 1.5Mbps connection! AARRRRGGGG!

Wow.. (4, Interesting)

BrookHarty (9119) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828147)

Been playing it for the last 2 hours, simply Amazing.

AMD 2600/ATI 9700PRO and I'm getting 60-100FPS with 2X AA, at 1024x768. Smooth as silk, fast, and great.

Only problem, Its a tube chaser so far, just run and run and run. But damn if it dont look amazing.

BTW, she looks cute in those Jeans, Good job Valve.. ;)

Re:Wow.. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828288)

BTW, she looks cute in those Jeans, Good job Valve.. ;)

Alyx? But that's a negro! You perverted troll.

Cockroaches (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828150)

If this version still has cockroaches you can step on in between killing monsters, I'm there.

why $49.99? (5, Insightful)

vaylen (566986) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828153)

I don't understand why downloading it through Steam costs $49.99 when you can get it from places like http://www.yesasia.com/ [yesasia.com] for $39.99. I thought using Steam was going to cut out the middle man and save the buyer money while also increasing Valve's profits. So much for their great idea of direct downloading...

Re:why $49.99? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828172)

In a sentence?

Vivendi wants to fuck Valve due to steam. ;)

Re:why $49.99? (1)

mattbee (17533) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828185)

In UK pounds (and I suspect this applies to other countries that can take advantage of a weak dollar and fast connection) that's £27, slightly cheaper than I can get it at amazon.co.uk and slightly faster than in the shops.

Re:why $49.99? (4, Informative)

MightyPez (734706) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828204)

When I buy over Steam I get a few things for my dollar. For starters, the game right now. But that's neither here nor there.

For this demonstration, we'll follow the train of my thoughts with the package I selected, the silver package. At the price of $59.95 USD, I get the following:

  1. The Half-Life 2 game (duh)
  2. Counter-Strike: Source, the multiplayer component
  3. Half-Life (original) Source
  4. Day of Defeat Source
  5. The complete Valve catalogue, including all expansion packs and modifications
  6. And most importantly, the satisfaction that my dollar went towards the actual developers of the game, and not a middle man that printed a bunch of boxes and slapped their name on it.


Sure you may be able to get it cheaper if you are looking at the bottom line. But with Steam I am getting value.

Re:why $49.99? (4, Interesting)

DrXym (126579) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828259)

That was my thought too. There are no printing, distribution (see note) or stocking costs, the middle man and the retailer have been removed from the equation and the end user is expected to use a large chunk of their bandwidth allowance to grab it online and burn the game if they expect to keep it.

$29.99 seems fairer. That's $29.99 of money that goes to Valve as opposed to the $8 or whatever it is that goes with the retail version. Everyone wins except the legacy distributors - Valve because they get 4-5x the profit, the customer because they get the game for less.

Okay, so there are some distribution issues surrounding online downloads, but these can largely be mitigated with P2P. For example World of Warcraft uses a (very sucky) custom Bittorrent client to download the game. I have no idea what the savings are for distributing via a .torrent but I can well imagine that bandwidth consumption is slashed to 1/50th.

Expecting people to pay what they could reasonably expect to pay in the stores, is a non-starter as far as I'm concerned. Norton / Symantec do something similar.

As an aside, the WoW custom torrent app is so abysmally slow (as in broken slow) and requires various open ports, that I followed the advice I found somewhere, and split the .torrent out of the executable to download through a normal BT client. It was about 5 times faster.

sigh (1)

bgeek (831483) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828154)

I wish games makers would spend the time improving coding routines and working on gameplay than continually upping the specs required to play games. Bring back the zx spectrum I say!

What about premium service? (1)

-noefordeg- (697342) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828156)

What about those who paid a lot of money and ordered it over steam, to get it "before people buying it from retail stores"?

IF you pay for a premium service you should also get it. In this case everyone got it at the same time. I would be pretty pissed right now.
I know people who paid $75 for it, with the promise they would get it before everyone else.

Re:What about premium service? (1)

KapnShak (472020) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828197)

Who said anything about an advanced release date? The more expensive packages just come with more bonus content. Half Life 1 Source, DOD Source, etc.

It Doesnt Work!!! (1)

VC (89143) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828165)

Ive downloaded it, unlocked it and get the menu page but when i start the game it crasheds.

Oh the humanity! (and being in london, i was late for work as well (release 8am GMT) )

Re:It Doesnt Work!!! (5, Informative)

VC (89143) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828198)

Replying to my own post incase anyone else has this same problem:

Apparently steam didnt download all the files. What files are missing varies from machine to machine. Valve is working on a fix.

Insomnia tonight (3, Insightful)

mcknation (217793) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828170)


Couldn't sleep and I was sick of infomercials so I decided I would try this steam thing...seeing as it was unlocked today. I dusted off the copy of HL1 a few months back and got aquainted with steam. Steam got HL1 down and playable on my machine in notime. They must be getting SLAMED. I have 4 meg down and steam (when used for HL1) saturated my bandwidth. As it sits now I bought the game and started downloading it at 4am. It's now 4:45 EST and I have 6% of HL2 downloaded. Ready to play in aprox. 321 minutes. So maybe this stint with insomnia will be spent watching the progress bar. If you are planing to buy HL2 as much as I'd rather the money go to Valve I would have to suggest you get a boxed copy....and leave Valve content server 18 alone...:P

/-McK

Re:Insomnia tonight (4, Interesting)

KapnShak (472020) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828218)

Strange, the Steam Status [steampowered.com] says their using less then half their available bandwidth. Maybe its just a really big download?

Re:Insomnia tonight (3, Informative)

jasoncart (573937) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828248)

The max bandwidth stat they use on that page is very theoretical - the actual max is a lot lower.

But what about install speeds? (3, Funny)

King_of_Prussia (741355) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828173)

I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you Valve fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a Linux box (a PIII 800 w/512 Megs of RAM) for about 35 minutes now while it attempts to Install Half-Life 2. 35 minutes. At home, on my Pentium Pro 200 running NT 4, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this Linux box, installing Doom 3 took about 15 minutes. In addition, during this install, Mozilla will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even Emacs Lite is straining to keep up as I type this.

I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while installing Valve products, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a Valve product that has run faster than its ID counterpart, despite the Valve products faster optimised code. My 486/66 with 8 megs of ram installs windows faster than this 800 mhz machine can do Half-Life at times. From an ease of installation standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that Valve is a "superior" company.

Valve addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a Valve product over other faster, cheaper, more stable games.

Re:But what about install speeds? (1, Flamebait)

vaporakula (674048) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828239)

You judge games based on how long it takes to install?

Wow.

Personally, I go for games that are *fun to play*.

Re:But what about install speeds? (3, Insightful)

Agret (752467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828246)

I don't think you can really comment on install speeds when you are using a Linux box to install a Windows game. It won't run anyway since it is heavily reliant on DirectX 9 Technology unlike Doom 3 which uses OpenGL.

Your computer is below the minimum requirements too. :: Half-Life 2 Requirements

To play Half-Life 2 and other Source add-ons you need at least the following specification PC.

Minimum Requirements

* 1.2 GHz Processor
* 256MB RAM
* DirectX 7 level graphics card
* Windows 2000/XP/ME/98

Recommended System

* 2.4 GHz Processor
* 512MB RAM
* DirectX 9 level graphics card
* Windows 2000/XP

Re:But what about install speeds? (4, Funny)

rootofevil (188401) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828250)

Even Emacs Lite

i think i found your problem...
try using vi or pico and save approximately 100% of those resources ;-)

What a weird troll (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828251)

This guy must be piss poor as well as insane. Or maybe it is one of the fill in the blanks trolls and he just never increased the hardware.

A pentium pro with nt4? Wtf? That is not just obsolete, it belongs in a museum. Then he mentions windos on a 486. I often get confused about timelines but aren't we talking windows 95 here at best? Wasn't the first windows that wasn't as much a disaster as windows 3 pretty much pentium only?

So basically this is a troll/rant that a game takes time to install on hardware wich can't run it. If it is true, wich is always possible /. has a lot of idiots, then might it take a while because he is downloading it over his leet 9600bps modem?

Anyway he wants a reason to buy valve games? Because half-life was one of the best first person shooters ever and still counts as a benchmark for every other fps out there. Only a tiny handfull of games can even compare. They also shown enormous commitment to maintaining their product. Where most fans fall down on their hands and knees in thanks when their game company fixes bugs that should have been spotted in beta, Valva has continued to upgrade half-life at no cost over the original purchase price. Sure it also allowed them to sell expansion packs but nobody forced you to buy them. You still got the improvments if you updated.

Soundtrack MP3 based? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828176)

I'm assuming since you can download this version that the music is no longer on the cd. The music for the first one was excellent and key during parts of the game so I hope they don't have bad compressed MP3s, or some other proprietary compression, for the music this time around.

Finally some realistic humans (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828182)

I've been playing... (5, Informative)

mtrisk (770081) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828183)

I was on #halflife2 on IRC for the countdown. Then I started playing. In the hour that I have played Half-Life 2, the only thing I can say is that I am in complete awe.

First off, If you've played CS:Source, you don't even know the half of it. Half-Life 2 is one hell of a single player. It manages to scare you in broad daylight. It scares you not just by monsters, but by the dystopia/authoritarian thing going on. It's really freaking scary.

The voices, facial movements, physics, "Civil Protectorate", it's all awesome. After just one hour, I've forgiven Valve. Half-Life 2 is just as revolutionary as the original Half-Life was. You really have to play it to believe it. I can't even begin to describe in words the euphoria and the terror it strikes in your heart.

Not bad for a company's second game.

MIdnight PST = 8.00AM gmt ? (1)

DrStrangeLug (799458) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828187)

Arggghh!! I was too "honest" to call in sick today! The rod up my butt must have a rod up its butt. And I'm roleplaying tonight so I only get two hours when I get home to enjoy the goodness. (I swore to myself years ago never to forgo human interaction for a computer game. I haven't decided where online gaming lies yet).

Possible Linux support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828194)

Would anyone speculate if Valve and/or the publisher can possibly be persuaded to port this beauty to Linux?

Is it running on OpenGL or DirectX?

Re:Possible Linux support? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828234)

It runs on DirectX, no GL support at all.

Re:Possible Linux support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828264)

*SIGH*

Oh well... Now there is even less chances of there being a port of the engine to Linux!

Re:Possible Linux support? (1)

jmo_jon (253460) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828267)

Unfortunately doesn't there seems to be any plans on releasing it for linux, at least they claim so here [custhelp.com]

Re:Possible Linux support? (1)

hthb (798809) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828285)

DirectX only my friend. Sorry

How's the replayability? (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828202)

Is there any?

I didn't play HL1, but think that while the single player mode is great and pretty, I fear it gets worn out pretty quickly? :-/

A major factor when I buy games is nowadays is the amount of replayability.

Infidel (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828266)

No I am not going to make jokes. You never played an absolute classic game wich everyone who likes first person shooters would recommend and you want to know about the sequel?

Don't bother.

As for replayability being your major factor for buying games. What a weird choice. Do you only watch movies wich you can watch over and over again?

But of course the answer is simple. No half-life 2 is not a endless replay game. It is heavily story based and once you know the story you can only improve your "score" except it doesn't keep a score.

Go play tetris.

Bug (1)

-medeakun- (811380) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828215)

Looking at the boards on http://www.halflife2.net/forums and http://www.hlfallout.net/ it seems as though quite a few people can't play because of numerous bugs.

Finally (5, Funny)

JakeD409 (740143) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828232)

I feel like I am truly alive for the first time ever. It's like my life itself was finally fully activated at midnight PST on November 16th, 2004. Infanthood, toddlerhood, preschool, elementary school, middle school, puberty, high school, these were just pre-loads.

Re:Finally (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828240)

You silly boy, *tee hee*

Opening.... (5, Funny)

fishmasta (827305) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828241)

And the opening train ride took less than 10 minutes! Thank you, Valve!

Awesome tech support (4, Interesting)

junkgrep (266550) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828245)

So mygame kept crashing loading the very first level. I wanted to cry. Not knowing what to do, I did the only geek thing I could think of: I simply posted my tears on Shacknews [shacknews.com] . But within minutes a Valve guy showed up asking if he could help. Then Erik Johnson himself popped in and started troubleshooting. I practically had Valve guys fighting over who could help me fix the problem first. And all this at like 2am in the morning. That's some pretty sweet support kids: they tracked ME down instead of me having to beg them to help.

Playing it now *WOW* (3, Informative)

Mr. Flibble (12943) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828257)

The only reason I am typing this is because during the first 30 min my system locked while playing - I had to hard reset. No big deal (I am one of those dangerous overclockers ;)

But *WOW* This game has already destroyed Doom 3 in the FIRST HALF HOUR OF PLAY!

You will excuse me, I have uh, important uh, stuff to uh, go and do now...

*starts steam again*

Half-life:Source Released as well (1)

JiMbOb_ka (232846) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828269)

It looks like they also unlocked the port of the original half-life on the new Source engine as well. I am downloading that as we speak.

Why lord why... (5, Funny)

FluffyPanda (821763) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828273)

...did they have to release HL2 on my girlfriend's birthday.

Now I'll be looking over a candle in a romantic restaurant picturing gordon freeman's beardy mug.

I wonder if macdonalds would do...

GORDON FREEMAN DIES in hl2 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10828281)

spoiler warning.

Played it for 2 hours (2, Interesting)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 9 years ago | (#10828282)

steam kicked in at 2:04 CST (according to my PC) and the game was decrypted/enabled by 2:15.
the feel of it is just right.
(if you get the great idea to whack the combine soldiers with the telephone be prepared to run)

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