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Hong Kong's High-Tech Technology Incubator

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the industrial-policy dept.

Technology 172

Austin Huggins writes "The BBC is reporting on a new hi-tech complex built in Hong Kong to attract tech businesses. 'It has taken four years to build and comes complete with a hi-tech hotel, apartments, shops and services.' And they have a 100 mbs network to boot." As the article points out, Hong Kong has a suddenly harder time keeping ahead of booming cities in mainland China.

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172 comments

eff pee (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938159)

woohoo!

hehe! (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938162)

I've been and I can say that it really rocks. Only negative comment is why the network is only 100Mbps and how come it sucks!

I WANT TO PUT MY PEE PEE IN YOUR POO POO HOLE (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938165)

i want to put my pee pee in your poo poo hole

100Mbit.. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938169)

..for a new tech complex? Sounds like "just catching up..." at best!

what floor are the hookers on? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938171)

Hello Mr. Wong, Can you tell me what floor the hot, wet, asian hookers are on? I need my pre-teen slavesex now! yeeeehaw. Its good to be a big american in chinatown! gonna get me some chinky yellow lovin for cheap!

Re:what floor are the hookers on? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938246)

The asian hookers are in the backrooms on floors 3,5,7,9,11, and 13. Use the secret phrase "me want sucky sucky longtime" to get in. I warn you to stay away from Madame Tranny and her gonorrea gang on the 13th floor.

Re:what floor are the hookers on? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938262)

Why does asia have such a bad reputation for sex slave prostitution? America has it just as bad. Chinatown in Manhattan has a thriving sexslave industry if you know where to look. California also has many bad places and sad women.

Re:what floor are the hookers on? (0, Offtopic)

sponger (96171) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938279)

well you must be looking there..

ARE YOU A FOOL... the sex slave and sex trade industry in ASIA is nothing compared to the US
here we have this thing called civil rights, for both women and men

Re:what floor are the hookers on? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938310)

you sound like you know alot about the sex trade. care to help a brother out with some bdsm rape hookups yo?

Re:what floor are the hookers on? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938283)

they don't have humanrights in asian dumass.

Re:what floor are the hookers on? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938338)

please tell me where to look. i would like to find some sex slaves in Chinatown.

Thanks.

Re:what floor are the hookers on? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938379)

How could anyone live with themself after having sex with a depressed girl who hates your guts

lole! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938172)

hahahahahhaha lol funny. :-D

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Translation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938250)

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Translated (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938287)

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Wow (0, Redundant)

gpark (640482) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938177)

oooh....100 mbs.....so cutting edge!

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938182)

redundant, asshat. better look before posting next time.

Re:Wow (5, Insightful)

isny (681711) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938195)

Is that millibits? Man, and I thought 300bps was slow.

WHA!? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938192)

100MBPS?! Holy crap. I've only heard rumors about those on the internets. I never thought they were for real.

It's simpossible! (2, Funny)

Dominatus (796241) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938193)

And if Hong Kong becomes popular enough, it launches into space!

basically.... (2, Insightful)

ikea5 (608732) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938196)

It's just a fancy name for whole bunch of office buildings wired togther with gigabit ethernet.

Re:basically.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938237)

where exactly did you read this gigabit thing from?

Re:basically.... (2, Insightful)

JPriest (547211) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938278)

"Our network is running at 100 megabits a second, which is 10 times faster than normal broadband connections" And also 10 times slower than GigE. It took them 4 years to build it, GigE equipment was expensive back then.

Re:basically.... (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938353)

While GigE equipment may have been expensive, Cat-5e or Cat-6 cable was not. It would have been relatively cheap to wire the whole thing up with GigE capable cable, and only install the switches when they became cheap. The building I work in is one of the Digital Techniums in south Wales, which has cat-6 cables running all through it and a 1GBit (shortly to become 10GBit) connection to the Internet. Over half of the building is dedicated to incubator units for technology related start-ups (100% of the others is, but this one is shared with Swansea University). We don't have a hotel or shops in the building, but I'm not convinced that they are entirely necessary. I suspect the cost of living in south Wales is cheaper than in Hong Kong, as well.

Hong Kong: Stooge for Beijing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938357)

According to 1997 poll conducted by CNN/Time, more than 60% of the Hong Kongers cheered the unification of Hong Kong and mainland China [cnn.com] . Most Chinese support Chinese nationalism over human rights or democracy [tibet.org] . Most high schools in Hong Kong voluntarily teach that Tibet should be integrated into "One China".

In this kind of sick, stifling intellectual environment, the brightest minds would not be able to conduct the best research and development. The brightest minds need a free, open-minded environment that does not cater to Chinese nationalism.

Where would such an open-minded environment be? USA, Canada, Germany, Sweden, etc.

Huh? (1)

n0tv3ry3lite (833715) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938201)

"We have a utility computing equivalent of 100 computers. So you can run different kinds of applications on top of it." What? You can run different kinds of applications!?!? Holy bat-computer Batman! And is it just me or did the dude in the second pic look scared to death?

100 Mbit/s connection (2, Insightful)

Searinox (833879) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938215)

That's as much as a normal server in a datacenter has o.O

Good for them... (1)

Duncan3 (10537) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938219)

Now why can't Americans try to stay ahead of the Chinese too?

Re:Good for them... (1)

sponger (96171) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938263)

We are way ahead of the chinese...uhhh like you can move from california to new york ..

the commies in china have controls over migration within the country. and if they want you to be a farmer well thats it...

Gotta love (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938225)

Gotta love this guy's face, from the article. http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40569000/jpg /_40569261_vincent_chen_203.jpg

Re:Gotta love (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938238)

dont make fun of my pa bastard

Re:Gotta love (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938512)

It may just be me, but the phrase, "What you say?!?" springs to mind. John

bitch nigger (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938230)

Where're my niggers with the big dicks? -Ahh
Where're my niggers with the hot whips? -Ahh
Where're my niggers living better?
We want Barettas and Amarettas, butter leathers and mad cheddar.
Bitch got fed up, fess'd up, ran out and spill'd out.
lost herself on my cock an caught a disease off my cheese.

Re:bitch nigger (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938363)

Disease off my cheese!

W00t!

Why Hong Kong (5, Funny)

mordors9 (665662) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938233)

Why go there just for the bandwidth, when they can locate their factory in mainland China and enjoy the benefits of genuine slave labor.

Re:Why Hong Kong (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938300)

I go to asia often, to exploit the young asian hookers with tight pussys. Some of them let you cum inside! Gook women are the best.

Re:Why Hong Kong (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938319)

you are whats wrong with society. i hate brutish idiots like you.

Re:Why Hong Kong (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938334)

There is an evolutionary selective advantage to be a brutish rapist. If all men were metrosexuals millions of people throughout history would not have been born. Be thankful for hornyness.

Re:Why Hong Kong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938347)

And the fact that they just gave you AIDS is the only satisfaction those poor girls get, especially considering your little limp excuse for a penis.

Re:Why Hong Kong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938361)

I have a rare immunity to AIDS. The government is studying me.... between my visits to asia.

Re:Why Hong Kong (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938623)

Try choking them with your cock and cumming when you are all the way in. Once, one of the slits threw up on me right as I came. I complained and got my money back as well as another girl to clean my suit before I left. Yeah, you have to forgo cumming on their face but the sound of some pre-teen Chinese whore with your cock stuffed all the way in as she grasps for air ... priceless. Where you gonna get that in the US? Chinatown? Please ...

Re:Why Hong Kong (3, Insightful)

twitter (104583) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938415)

Why go there just for the bandwidth, when they can locate their factory in mainland China and enjoy the benefits of genuine slave labor.

I can get the benefits of genuine slave labor at Walmart.

Is it a surprise that Hong Kong would have trouble "keeping up" with anyone in China? The one thing you can count on with a Communist government is that "what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine." Any factory run by any party boss is going to have everything anyone in Hong Kong has and resources no one in Hong Kong can touch. That more people are getting a taste of the fruits of their labors in China in no way makes them free or the government any less corrupt.

Hong Kong, under the UK, was a showcase of unregulated capitalism. That's amazing, when you consider the nasty way the UK taxes it's own citizens to death and beyond. It's demise under the Chinese is as inevitable as it's wealth and prowess was under the UK.

Re:Why Hong Kong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938732)

The Brits didn't tax Hong Kong to death... Income tax was 15% and sales tax is limited to sin tax.

Why not Guantanamo Bay (1)

didiken (93521) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938424)

>Why go there just for the bandwidth, when they
>can locate their factory in mainland China
>and enjoy the benefits of genuine slave labor.

Yea, why go to USA, when they can locate their companies in Guantanamo Bay and enjoy the benefits of genuine slave labor.

Re:Why not Guantanamo Bay (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938447)

Hmmm, I wasn't aware that there was any commercial interests producing a product there.

Weekends on Slashdot... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938271)

Michael Sims greedily posting get-rich-quick links to Roland and Engadget, and Timothy posting 'high-tech' stories from the UK (a nation of people who still believe LCD watches to be 'high-tech').

Re:Weekends on Slashdot... (-1, Flamebait)

oexeo (816786) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938315)

Timothy posting 'high-tech' stories from the UK (a nation of people who still believe LCD watches to be 'high-tech').

You truely are an fucking idiot.

Re:Weekends on Slashdot... (1)

oexeo (816786) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938324)

You truely are an[sic] fucking idiot.

Please don't bother, it was a typo!

Re:Weekends on Slashdot... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938346)

You didn't spell "truely"[sic] correctly either you fucking moron.

You are truly [reference.com] stupid. Go brush your teef you stinky englishman.

Re:Weekends on Slashdot... (1)

oexeo (816786) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938372)

You didn't spell "truely"[sic] correctly either you fucking moron.

You are truly stupid. Go brush your teef[sic] you stinky englishman[sic].

teef = teeth
englishman = Englishman

Re:Weekends on Slashdot... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938410)

1. teef - I purposely spelled "teeth" wrong for comedic effect, you fucking imbecile.
2. englishman - Your subspecies is not important enough to warrant capitalization!

Re:Weekends on Slashdot... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938420)

you have a small penis.

Re:Weekends on Slashdot... (1)

oexeo (816786) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938431)

1. teef - I purposely spelled "teeth" wrong for comedic effect, you fucking imbecile. 2. englishman - Your subspecies is not important enough to warrant capitalization!

Yeah "teef" is just hilarius.

Secondly, I'm multilingual, and was educated in a foreign language (to English), what's your excuse?

Re:Weekends on Slashdot... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938491)

Haha! You admit defeat! I win! neeener neeener!

Re:Weekends on Slashdot... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938408)

no you're a fucking idiot.

All the digital content you can eat (2, Funny)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938273)

"The main focus currently is on creators, managers and deliverers of digital content, because that's where we see the big niche for Hong Kong going forward."

So, basically what he's saying is that is a complex for creators of CGI Chop Socky?

KFG

Re:All the digital content you can eat (5, Informative)

xstein (578798) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938386)

Credentials first: I work at Cyberport in Hong Kong.

The idea behind this complex isn't purely the technological benefits, such as bandwidth, etc, but the fact that all of our tech companies are housed in one complex.

Hong Kong is a fairly large city, and when you throw into the mix the fact that many firms are now moving their offices further north to Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Shanghai, Cyberport offers a definte advantage in terms of helping consolidate the various tech and tech-related firms. Using the cited example, creators of digital content are given an incentive to house their operations at Cyberport as they can have all required outside work done by firms within 3 minutes walk of their offices--whilst I'm not familiar with digital content creation, I'd imagine they have things like packaging done out of house.

This is essentially taking the Silicon Valley concept one step further in that all firms are literally in the same building. The hotels help accomodate to multinational companies that have foreign executives come in for meetings and to house guests for seminars.

Re:All the digital content you can eat (0, Flamebait)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938430)

This is essentially taking the Silicon Valley concept one step further in that all firms are literally in the same building.

Yes, I am familiar with the benefits of the business complex. One might call it the World Trade Center concept.

So, this one is geared toward the production of CGI Chop Socky?

KFG

Re:All the digital content you can eat (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938470)

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It's easier to say than done (1)

didiken (93521) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938390)

>So, basically what he's saying is that is a complex for creators of CGI Chop Socky?

Yes you can laugh all the way you want, but there's a vibrant CG industry in Hong Kong. O yes they are definitely not as advanced as ILM or Dreamworks , but they've made many entries into Siggraph. Some samples on Archive.org: Cola Cola's Clay Dolls [archive.org] and Master Q [archive.org] .

Re:It's easier to say than done (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938442)

awesome videos! I had no idea archive.org had so much free videos on there. Now I have something to do this sunday.

Re:It's easier to say than done (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938452)

Yes you can laugh all the way you want, but there's a vibrant CG industry in Hong Kong.

Well of course there is; and I didn't say anything to infer that there wasn't. Did you infer, for some reason, that I thought a higer volume of higher quality CG Chop Socky would be a bad thing?

KFG

Not supprised (4, Interesting)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938277)

The Asians have done great technological strides in recent decades. Already, in the US, the best cars, televisons, computers and their monitors radios and phones are made in Asia. Multimedia effort bore fruit in Asia long ago...we in the US are just beginning to see what can be done in this field. The problem is, when an implementation is made, we brag about it. The Asians are working like the Russians - they never brag. When one visits Tokyo, a realization comes to fact that US cities are far behind.

Services too are being outsorced to Asia. Naturally research dollars will follow. This can only be bad for American students.

Toyota, in just decades is at the fore-front of the car industry already. This is a company that made a car 40 years after Ford and GM. Contrast that with GM, the alleged giggest car producer. You will go to every continent and find Toyota in good numbers, but not for GM. Now, Ford has been replaced by Toyota. GM will be next.

Having lived in a number of Asian countries, I can attest to the fact that Asians are simply driven to succeed. They will pirate/copy and do anything to get to where they have to. Sometimes, their respective governments support them.

Pretty soon, the Asian block will be in position to threaten "economic sanctions" on the US. After all, even the flu-shot vaccine will soon be Asian made.

My beloved country USA will be left with rhetoric as the only means to apply influence arround the world.

Open source will not help us that much because already, M$'s influence is already on the decline at least in Asia.

Where is America's edge left?

Re:Not supprised (1)

sponger (96171) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938295)

first you must break asia into peices. the conditions in JAPAN are NOTHING like those of china. that is why japan is now in the same place as the US as it used to be that all cool gadgets were made in japan .. not anymore... most of there stuff is made in china or taiwan...
secretly america has the edge because we have taken a country and given them "dollars" in exchange for ACTUAL MATERIAL GOODS. we are getting the better end of the stick. we have there stuff that they make for us CHEAP and in trade we get to give them our "money" and hence turning them further into an economic engine for america's growth... the real truth is... is that the trade deficit actually benifits america in the long run

Re:Not supprised (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938343)

...the real truth is... is that the trade deficit actually benifits america in the long run...

If this is your argument, then it means that *ALL* production should be shipped abroad so that a bigger trade deficit can be created. This can only be good for America.

Ask yourself. If all production is shipped off-shore, who will pay taxes enough to sustain government operations.

Now I see. We Americans have a HUGE PROBLEM. Japan protected its industry till such a time that it was very competitive. American industry on the otherhand, off-shores jobs after bribing top government officials. Just wait...the US government will be broke very soon.

Re:Not supprised (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938355)

The U.S. government prints money. If the government needs more money, it will print more.

Re:Not supprised (1)

sponger (96171) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938433)

no its the FEDERAL RESERVE PRINTS THE money..

you prove my point exactly.
the money is worthless really.. there is nothing to support it or back it. as long as the fed is in charge of monetary policy... tradedeficits are GOOD for america...

now i do not agree with the way the fed works it all.. (its way past fractional banking) but under this current monetary system we are the winners

how many chinese have a nice flat panel and a fast computer???? who is benifiting well looks like america!

Re:Not supprised (1)

sponger (96171) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938445)

the US government does not need to collect taxes at all to support themselves. most of the governemt is paid for by selling TBILLS to the FED and then the fed goes ahead and issues the "money"
the idea behind taxes in modern america is a social tool... the government does not need our money.
in the past AMERICANS PAID NO TAX the money came from tarrifs on impots into our country (granted that was years ago) the bottom line is that the loosers are the coutries that are selling themselves out for the $$ (dollars not money but DOLLARS)

Re:Not supprised (1)

winkydink (650484) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938610)

Yeah, and in the past when people went broke they went to places called poorhouses. In the past, infrastructure sucked. In the past, infant mortality rates were very high. Yeah, let's all go live in the past.

Re:Not supprised (1)

Deliveranc3 (629997) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938400)

You are kind of a fool, the basis for any decent economy is manufacturing. Yes you want to reap the physical wealth from a country in the form of resources and turn them into goods and sell them back.

Recently the idea of intellectual property as goods to be sold has been catching on, but it got exploited too much just like taxes, (salt tax and tea taxes in colonies respectively), and so is currently being ignored, (like the taxes were.

Moving back to a manufacturing ecconomy will be the hardest thing nations like Japan and America ever have to do, but there will be no choice.

Re:Not supprised (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938311)

Where is America's edge left?

Outsourced to India?

GM is "hidden" elsewhere (1)

PornMaster (749461) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938327)

General Motors might not sell cars like Chevrolet and Pontiac in other countries, but they are there. GM owns Saab, Opel, and Vauxhall in Europe, is the majority shareholder in Daewoo in Korea, and is involved in the manufacture of lots of other foreign brands.
br> See this [gm.com] for more info.

Re:GM is "hidden" elsewhere (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938392)

All those seem to be "bought-up" companies. Isn't it? So when GM buys up Ferrari, they will claim they manufacture them? Seems to be like M$'s tactics of buying up companies. This reminds me of Visio and Hotmail bought by M$. Remember that later, M$ claimed to have the subscribers.

Re:GM is "hidden" elsewhere (1)

jinushaun (397145) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938437)

Bought up, and eventually controlled. They're not the owner in name only. Everything still has to be approved by GM. Many of the different European brands share platforms with American models. The new Chevy Aveo is a rebadge Daewoo. The new Pontiac GTO is a rebadged Holden Monaro.

The Hotmail example is a bad one, as MS eventually took over Hotmail development. So they in fact, did own and control Hotmail.

Re:Not supprised (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938333)

Already, in the US, the best cars. . . are made in Asia.

Hondas are made in Ohio. Nissans are made in Mississippi. Toyotas are made in Kentucky.

The Honda Civic is 98% American made. The Lincolns, perhaps the last of the quintesentially "American" cars, have so little American made content that they are often classified as an imports.

In America it's GMs and Fords that come from Asia, and they aren't typically considered the cream of the automotive crop.

KFG

Re:Not supprised (1)

Jameth (664111) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938359)

"Where is America's edge left?"

You mean besides the military?

Re:Not supprised (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938367)

Already, in the US, the best cars, televisons, computers and their monitors radios and phones are made in Asia.

No, the CHEAPEST cars, televisions, etc are made in Asia. If you are telling me that a Honda is a better car than a Mercedes Benz, you're crazy.

Re:Not supprised (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938411)

You do not follow JD Power and Associates releases, do you?

Re:Not supprised (4, Insightful)

selderrr (523988) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938477)

okay, i'm going to say something incredibly naive now :

so what ?

It's not like the US (or EU, where I live) somehow becomes a minority population all of a sudden ! We will become a less influent factor in the world economics. Probably behind Asia, but in front of South America or Africa. We will stop being cutting edge on quite a few domains. But it is not like as if somehow we'll have to live on water and bread. Maybe, just maybe, the asian uprising is a small step towards global leveling of powers (okay, that was really naive. Forget I just said that). People should stop thinking that the asians are taking away our lives. They are just taking away some of the luxuries that we didn't have an exclusive on anyway. Get over it. Grow up. Be happy, not jaleous

Re:Not supprised (1)

winkydink (650484) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938596)

Really? I see a lot of Opels in Europe & Australia and mainland China has a ton of GM's. One thing you don't see much of in mainland China is Japanese cars. I guess the Chinese have long memories.

What the hell is wrong with BBC/Slashdot? (5, Insightful)

fussili (720463) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938306)

Cyberport is a MASSIVE waste of government money and worse still was just a large luxury building contract HANDED OVER to everyone's favourite Hong Kong cartel.

Anyone from Hong Kong reading this report is currently laughing their ass off at the idea that this is somehow indicative of Hong Kong 'racing ahead'. Cyberport was nothing more or less than a gigantic gift to Li Ka Shing's estate (via his son the ever popular Richard Li).

I bet you guys think our partially state-owned Disney land is a good idea too. Seriously, if you like this stuff you can have Chief Executive Tung Che Hwa. Please, take him!

Re:What the hell is wrong with BBC/Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938370)

Rename Cyberport to Cyberpussy and make big money now! Fucky Sucky longtime.com!

Reminds me of a joke (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938592)

If Hong Kong Chief Executive Tung Chee Hwa, Chief Secretary Donald Tsang and Financial Secretary Henry Tang were in a boat and it turned over, who would be saved?

Answer: The Hong Kong people

There's been alot of coverage of the huge number of protests against the current government and it's economic policy, and the undemocratic process in which the Chief Secretary is chosen (basically a 400 man group hand-picked by Beijing chooses it for us). The Cyberport, with it's lack of transparency on the bidding process, was a hugely controversial project which did not strengthen the support of the current government at all, and it's still to be seen it's effect on boosting the economy.

Until the local population... (2, Insightful)

Lead Butthead (321013) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938342)

Until the local population develops respect for intellectual property, I don't expect much to happen...

Re:Until the local population... (2, Interesting)

didiken (93521) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938401)

>Until the local population develops respect
>for intellectual property, I don't expect much
>to happen...

Are you referring to your friends happily running Kazaa downloading tunes in USA/Canada as well?

Re:Until the local population... (0, Troll)

Macgruder (127971) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938612)

There is a distinct qualitative difference between duplicating digital content for your own private use/entertainment and duplicating IP to create goods and services to sell

Re:Until the local population... (4, Funny)

CaptKilljoy (687808) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938638)

>There is a distinct qualitative difference between duplicating digital content for your own private use/entertainment and duplicating IP to create goods and services to sell.

Agreed. One is a bunch of greedy individuals leeching off of the work of others for their own benefit and the other is bunch of greedy corporations leeching off of the work of others for their own benefit.

<FX: drum fill> Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week.

Re:Until the local population... (0)

Macgruder (127971) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938686)

in case A, the benefit is the use of said digital property. In case B, the benefit is millions of dollars from reselling said IP

Cowboyneal hates black people (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10938350)

what a freaking jerk!

I think the posters are missing something (1)

PornMaster (749461) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938376)

By aggregating digital media companies together within a single complex that meets the needs of the employees regarding all their living requirements, they are trying to enable the "campus" atmosphere of companies like Microsoft... combined with the "company towns" that were found in the US during the industrial revolution.

They're providing an infrastructure.

And yes, you can colocate a box in a data center on 100Mbps links, but how many startups have a pair of DS3s at their offices?

100Mbit network heh.. (1)

_GNU_ (81313) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938387)

Why would one build a 100Mbit network in a modern business complex? You can get 10/100/1000-switches cheaper than 10/100 today afaik.

Perhaps .hk is way behind Sweden, but a 100Mbit network does not impress us with 100Mbit internet connections to our homes.

Blade Runner (2, Informative)

qualico (731143) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938393)

How about setting up a Gigabit network in that abandoned hotel set on Blade Runner.

Looks like Asia and should be able to compete without the billion dollar 4 year price with faster networking to boot!

Hong Kong: great place to work and live (2, Informative)

Linuxathome (242573) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938396)

After hearing anecdotes about the quality of living for professionals in Hong Kong, it is getting more and more enticing for the foreign professional. If you're in the tech industry, in the biomedical sciences or even in the corporate or business law, the city definitely has it's pluses. Aside from the housing prices, the cost of living is a fraction of that in say San Franciso (or most of CA for that matter), or Boston, or Sydney, or Paris, or London. Let's say you can secure a job with the same salary as you do now, you can have housekeepers to maintain your daily living requirements at a fraction of what you'd pay in Europe, US, or otherwise. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if I heard the same about foreign workers in other Chinese cities.

It's already the end of high-tech in Hong Kong. (3, Informative)

HungWeiLo (250320) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938412)

I just learned that the University of Hong Kong [www.hku.hk] , the largest university in Hong Kong, has just closed its electrical engineering department due to lack of funding and enrollment. However, the Chinese University of Hong Kong [www.cuhk.hk] still maintains its EE department.

There's no way Hong Kong can catch up technologically with mainland China now, not without heavy academic research in new arenas of technology.

Re:It's already the end of high-tech in Hong Kong. (1)

didiken (93521) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938521)

>I just learned that the University of Hong Kong,
>the largest university in Hong Kong, has just
>closed its electrical engineering department

That is not true, they're running just fine.

>There's no way Hong Kong can catch up
>technologically with mainland China now, not
>without heavy academic research in new arenas of
>technology.

Technologies change all the time. Brazil once had a vibrant software technology scene too. Wordstars, Lotus 1-2-3, Visicalc and Apple ][ have their glory days.

By the way, the world has just been globalized for 10 years. Don't give up just yet.

We have places like that. And they're vacant. (4, Informative)

Animats (122034) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938479)

Here in Silicon Valley, we have lots of office space with similar facilities. Available now, at low, low rents. Try $0.90/square foot for class A R&D space. The Excite@Home facility is still completely vacant. The area near Moffett Field, where SGI used to be and Google is now, has acres of vacant buildings.

The huge new 150,000 square meter Pacific Shores Center [pacificshorescenter.com] complex still has entire buildings vacant, and it's filling up. EA and Dreamworks moved in. Shrek 2 was made there. Health club, Olympic size swimming pool, public hiking trails, baseball field, soccer field, ampitheater, cafe, day spa, and an incredible view of the San Francisco bay. Ample parking. Gigabits of bandwidth.

Pacific Shores alone is one and a half times the size of Hong Kong's "Cyberport."

So there.

10mbs? (1)

kilrogg (119108) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938601)

And they have a 100 mbs network to boot

10 millibits*second? What does this unit represent? The second integral of data rate?

Does anybody recall? (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 9 years ago | (#10938683)

That EPCOT [justdisney.com] Center [mouseplanet.com] was supposed to be the "Experimental Prototye City Of Tomorrow" and not some goddam RIDE ????

In an October 1966 interview, Walt Disney said:
"It's like the city of tomorrow ought to be, a city that caters to the people as a service function. It will be a planned, controlled community, a showcase for American industry and research, schools, cultural and educational opportunities. In EPCOT there will be no landowners and therefore no voting control. People will rent houses instead of buying them, and at modest rentals. There will be no retirees. Everyone must be employed. One of our requirements is that the people who live in EPCOT must help keep it alive."

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