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Fanless Media Center Box

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the fins-are-always-cool dept.

Media 280

An anonymous reader writes "I didn't know that Hush Technologies made Media Center PCs, but they do. Here's a review of one of those beautiful fanless machines running media center 2005. Could this be the perfect media center box?" It's certainly perfectly expensive.

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PWNED (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948430)

DYLAN LAINHART OWNS
FP BITCHES

First (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948433)

First post!

Re:First (1)

YOU FAIL IT! (624257) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948447)

You must have been posting from a digital FAILURE box rather than a media box!

YOU FAIL IT!

Re:First (-1, Offtopic)

Mod Me God Five (832071) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948498)

omg lol asl/ yuo r teh suck

Re:First (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948694)

Pay no attention to this anus chigger, for he eats shit thru a crazy straw and calls a necrophiliac priest his mother. DO NOT VIOLATE THE SANCTITY OF THE 'FAIL IT' CREW, BITCH! Go fuck your dead mother in her scrotum.

I didn't know... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948437)

Huckster: I didn't know that Hush Technologies made Media Center PCs, but they do.

Country Rube: Then why is your picture on the case?

Cue getaway music...

Re:I didn't know... (3, Funny)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948541)

> Huckster: I didn't know that Hush Technologies made Media Center PCs, but they do.
>
>Country Rube: Then why is your picture on the case?
>
>Cue getaway music...

Well, it could be worse.

Huckster #2: "I didn't know that Hush Technologies had a webserver."

200,000 Slashdotting Rubes: "What webserver?"

Cue halon extinguisher activation in the server room.

Re:I didn't know... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948651)

They didn't start chasing us until you turned on that getaway music!

slow site (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948439)

and no comments

Fanless box? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948443)

I'd mach rather a hairless box

Re:Fanless box? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948468)

you only say that 'cause you've never had a box with a fan

Re:Fanless box? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948472)

yea you like em young eh?

Re:Fanless box? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948477)

agreed. >:)

Re:Fanless box? (1)

djocyko (214429) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948517)

Well, with no fans, no hair will get in...

oh..wait...EW!!

Re:Fanless box? (1)

weighn (578357) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948521)

I'd mach rather a hairless box

They certainly are much faster that way. Mach -- geddit?

physical location (4, Insightful)

iclod (831412) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948446)

There are two critical requirements for a Media PC that's going to reside in your living room, it has to look great and be quiet as a mouse

is it a must to have your media PC in the same room? couldn't you tuck it in the cupboard somewhere and transmit signals wirelessly?

Re:physical location (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948522)

no. Try again.

Re:physical location (3, Informative)

IanBevan (213109) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948549)

Current wireless tech does not have the bandwidth to play DVDs (unless you DivX them first or something).

Re:physical location (3, Insightful)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948584)

For the same reason it isn't convenient to have my DVD/CD player tucked away in a cupboard in another room. It's handy to be able to put things into it with minimal fuss.

Re:physical location (3, Interesting)

mythosaz (572040) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948699)

I think the parent meant something along the lines of, "Why can't I put the thing in a cabinet, use a remote with an IR/FM repeater, and run a couple of cables out to my Hi-Fi and TV?"

I've used the OneForAll line of remotes, and I do enjoy their IR-repeater. Similarly, on the PC end, I've used the ATI All In Wonder Remote, and the RF range on mine (interference, perhaps) was less than exciting.

Lack of good HARD buttons keeps me in a remote nightmare right now, but I've got a mid-level URC (OneForAll) that I like right now. Doesn't have the annoying PVR "Thumb" buttons, but does have enough extras that I can map my Exploer 8000 to it.

Media Center Edition is nice, but it's still not QUITE the killer set-top machine. I still haven't seen GOOD two-tuner support in 2005, something that Cox already gives (well, sells) people on it's PVR units. As lon as NBC is going to start ER at 8:59pm, I'm gonna need two tuners.

Re:physical location (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948726)

Jesus Fucking Christ! Put down the remote(s), stop watching so much fucking TV and go the fuck outside!

Re:physical location (4, Funny)

mordors9 (665662) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948749)

C'mon, why do you think we have children. It's to load the DVD/CD players for us.... You didn't really think we didn't know how to set the clock did you? HAHAHA

Re:physical location (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948687)

is it a must to have your media PC in the same room? couldn't you tuck it in the cupboard somewhere and transmit signals wirelessly?

Sure and you can control it by contorting in your La-Z-Boy, trying to get the remote to reflect off the strategically placed mirrors around the house. You may also want to scrable the signal if it's wireless so the neighborhood geeks don't see what you're really watching...

...oh, sure, says he watches Star Trek, but he's really into Oprah and Sesame Street, the fraud...

As for me, the other important thing is it runs cool. For some reason things which run hot attract a ton of dust.

Re:physical location (1)

sv25 (773540) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948737)

Exactly. I wouldn't "pay" to be able to keep my "media box" in the same room as my TV. Instead, I'll stick with my current "media box" which resides on the other side of the wall. It has nearly no storage space and instead, relies on my fileserver upstairs for it. I threw in a wireless-g pci card, which is probably the most expensive part in the damn thing. The video capture card I have is from ATI and comes with a nice remote (I drilled a very small hole in the wall to run the USB remote receiver).

The whole setup is very quiet, in the sense I can't hear it from the TV room.

The box was put together with spare parts, so the project took more time than money.

Re:physical location (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948752)

Transmit it wirelessly to what? Oh yeah, a Media PC.

What's even worse than this moron is that it's currently +4 insightful, lol.

critical requirements (3, Insightful)

the-build-chicken (644253) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948838)


There are two critical requirements for a Media PC that's going to reside in your living room, it has to look great and be quiet as a mouse

Call me crazy, but I would have thought being able to 'play media' would have been right up there as well......go figure

./ed already? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948448)

It's too bad the site is already down b/c it seemed like an interesting product.

This is certainly pretty... (5, Funny)

Suburbanpride (755823) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948453)

but you can save yourslef some money and do what I do. Turn up the volume on my reciever loud enoguh so you can't hear the fans, or the wife complaining.

Re:This is certainly pretty... (1)

themoodykid (261964) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948568)

Troy McLure: "DOCTOR, ARE YOU SURE IT'S ON?!"
Dr. Nick: "IT'S WHISPER QUIET!"

Wife...Slashdot...does not compute (3, Insightful)

mhesseltine (541806) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948663)

Of course, I'm joking. It does seem that everyone gets irritated at potential noise levels. Are you really watching Kill Bill with the volume at "1" and complaining that you can't hear the dialogue over the fan noise? Also, what's wrong with a glass door in front of the PC?

Re:Wife...Slashdot...does not compute (1)

baba (105606) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948808)

Also, what's wrong with a glass door in front of the PC?
How about heat buildup due to lack of air circulation?

Re:Wife...Slashdot...does not compute (5, Interesting)

Suburbanpride (755823) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948855)

what's wrong with a glass door in front of the PC

Heat is the problem, the reason why there are fans is that heat needs to escape and glass is an insulator, not a conductor.

My 500 watt reciever has a heat sink thats about 4x10x4, and has a fan that turns on a very high tempertures, which it usaul only reaches when it is cranked up for an extended period of time.
What I'd really like to see is a volume controled fan controler. When the movie gets quiet, the fans slow down and then crank back up when it gets loud again.

1,791.38 GBP (4, Informative)

AltGrendel (175092) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948459)

= 3,389.61 USD

Re:1,791.38 GBP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948718)

Make that 1791 *EUROS* not 1791 *POUNDS STERLING*, still works out at 2374 *US DOLLARS* though!

Re:1,791.38 GBP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948729)

That is entirely too much to pay for a consumer Windows box of any kind.

Linux and BSD probably can't take advantage of the proprietary hardware in the sucker, either.

I think I'll buy a(nother) Mac instead.

Re:1,791.38 GBP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948770)

The simple truth is that interstellar distances will not fit into the human imagination - Douglas Adams

Then he had a pretty small imagination, and considering it's Douglas Adams, that's kind of hard to believe; maybe that quote is a clue that he ripped off his ideas from somewhere else.

Re:1,791.38 GBP (5, Insightful)

cliveholloway (132299) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948797)

= 3,389.61 USD

Note that's the price today. Considering the way the dollar's going, here's a handy chart to help you through the next 6 months:

Jan 2005 => 3,689.35 USD
Feb 2005 => 3,745.22 USD
Mar 2005 => 3,823.43 USD
Apr 2005 => 3,897.01 USD
May 2005 => 3,925.23 USD
Jun 2005 => 3,990.45 USD

Oh, small caveat. The above assumes that Russia doesn't start selling its oil in Euros [globalpolicy.org] . If that happens, all bets are off :)

cLive ;-)

nice, wish I could afford it (2, Interesting)

the arbiter (696473) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948462)

Ahh, now this is what those of us who have home recording studios need...it's so hard to get good vocal/acoustic guitar takes with that damn Athlon fan blasting away in the background.

One day...

Re:nice, wish I could afford it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948619)

Look at www.silentpcreview.com for plenty of info on how to modify or build a quiet machine.

Re:nice, wish I could afford it (2, Informative)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948722)

Apple has made tons of silent machines in its history, take a look at... well, most iMac models (I don't know about the current one) and the eMac, as well as the G4 Cubes, if you don't mind a used computer.

Re:nice, wish I could afford it (1)

zolon (605240) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948816)

From my own knowledge of running a recording studio, in my home, build sound rooms, that the computer is not in. They also have panels that you can use for this, and in the long run, it is cheaper then that hush system.

Re:nice, wish I could afford it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948822)

Ok as a musician and a Unix engineer. Try the new Imac - at 24db which is lower than a whisper and all of it's powerbook line from where I type this reply.

Nice but EXPENSIVE, any alternatives? (1)

hvrbyte (537069) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948464)

Their stuff is very nice, but they are insanely expensive. Does anyone know of any other alternatives out there for a MythTV box?

uhh (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948484)

It's certainly perfectly expensive.

Some of us dont live in our mothers basements .. very few .. but still, this is the same attitude people take when someone sudgests a mac.

Get off welfare fuck.

Re:uhh (1)

rco3 (198978) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948570)

Learn to spell, put your own name on your posts, and then you can try to tell me why a $3800 PC isn't expensive. You'll fail, of course, because $3800 is a lot of money even for people who aren't on welfare. Yes, even if it's a Mac.

PCworld.com just reviewed 9 MCE machines (4, Informative)

xplosiv (129880) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948493)

PCworld just did a review on 9 MCE machines, they might help you find a cheaper MCE machine if you are in the market for one.

PCworld.com review [pcworld.com]

I have 2 MCE machines, 1 in the bedroom (Antec Overture case), and one in the living room (the CyberPower model listed in the PCworld review), and while they aren't really that quiet, it doesn't bother anyone once the TV has been turned on.

Google cache (mirror) (3, Insightful)

scdeimos (632778) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948499)

Trusted Reviews has been /.'d already, so try this:

Google cache [google.com.au]

Re:Google cache (mirror) (3, Funny)

jtmas83 (794264) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948696)

The error message from the server: Server Error in '/' Application.

I think they forgot the '.'

Looks nice... (2, Interesting)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948501)

...but I still think the cube [apple.com] was nicer, for a fanless beauty. Too bad it was just waaaay too expensive.

Re:Looks nice... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948655)

You mean too expensive just like MCE machines?

suggestion to read back on slashdot: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948510)

last week there was a discussion of what was the best multimedia solution to use, and i think we concluded it to be chipped xbox + xbmc and samba shares. :)

Re:suggestion to read back on slashdot: (1)

cheekyboy (598084) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948790)

For the price of their MCE crap, I can buy/build 10 xbox with 200GIG each.

Can play any content over any protocol and play tonnes of EMU games + backup games.

First Page! (1)

c0defiant (763041) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948513)

Still waiting on second page to load since before first post...

Hmm. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948518)

Anyone ever notice that the product advertisments being passed off as stories contain more positive comments by the editors on average if that same product is being sold by Thinkgeek?

Just an interesting point to ponder.

Re:Hmm. (1)

IO ERROR (128968) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948859)

Anyone ever notice that the product advertisments being passed off as stories contain more positive comments by the editors on average if that same product is being sold by Thinkgeek?

Yes, it's called promotion, and any good advertiser does it. I think this article is a case of negative promotion though. Or demotion maybe.

Slashdotted already (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948524)

But mirrordot has the first page: http://mirrordot.org/stories/7828089409e0153604f3c c8ce82c9189/index.html [mirrordot.org]

Re:Slashdotted already (1)

pair-a-noyd (594371) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948724)

That link sucks. It only mirrored 1 page out of 4, the links in the mirrored page only point to the next pages of the original content on the original /.'ed server..

umm (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948534)

s certainly perfectly expensive.

Some of us dont live in our mothers basements .. very few .. but still, this is the same attitude people take when someone sudgests a mac.

Get off welfare fuck.

Fanless Media Center... (2, Insightful)

Eberlin (570874) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948536)

Sponsored by Fanless Media Celebrities!!! Have they booked Vanilla Ice for endorsement deals yet?

Are media centers really taking hold? I mean PVR + media player + home entertainment center sounds like a logical thing to be brought together, but it all seems too pricey for normal human consumption. While I'm at it, does this then bring the concept of "computer as an appliance" closer to reality?

If we're all going in that direction, shouldn't we just get it over with and have a "server closet" in every home? Rack-mounted servers for your music, all your DVDs, and constant family album slideshows on channel 3 or something. Linux of course (with contraband deCSS) and wirelessly controlled with a zaurus.

Couldn't we do all of that now much more cheaply than this media pc?

Seems a bit much... (0)

laughingcoyote (762272) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948545)

A set of headphones is far cheaper, and you won't hear the fan a bit.

Re:Seems a bit much... (1)

kaleco (801384) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948763)

Better than that, I just removed all my computer's fa CARRIER LOST

MythTV? (2, Informative)

jarich (733129) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948552)

Slashdotted already? Can't see the specs...

The question for me is

1) Can it be a MythTV backend (doing the capturing)

2) More importantly, can it be MythTV frontend?

Myth is client server out of the box... put the backend (with the many hard disks, tuner cards, etc) in a closet somewhere. Then buy a nice cheap box to just serve video to the TV. Sometime silent. :)

Re:MythTV? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948678)

Answer - of course.

Just got Myth and Plextor ConvertX. The holy grail of TV is finally acheived! The realtime certified Divx recordings play back perfectly in the Phillips DVD player.

Myth puts all other PVR software to shame. So sorry that I payed $80 for Showshifter; what a mistake.

Re:MythTV? (4, Informative)

lakeland (218447) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948705)

*sigh* don't you know the hush already? I almost ran out of drool when I saw it the first time ;-)

Yes, it can do both backend and frontend. The highest spec machine is the 1.2GHz nermeiah core. Put a reiser and a PVR 350 in it, 256MB RAM (more is a waste of time according to the myth website), a DVD writer, and one of them 400GB disks and you're set. Oh, and it looks gorgeous, you would not want to hide it away in a cupboard. They'll even sell it to you set up like that, for about $2500 :-(

As you note, you can set up mythbackend on another machine somewhere and run mythfrontend by the TV (perhaps on your xbox). But... this thing is silent and low power consuming, it makes a lot of sense for it to be the machine you're leaving on 24/7. Especially since it is fast enough to handle your mail and web server, etc.

for less money, i like... (1)

Striker770S (825292) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948553)

my aluminum case with 4 fans. it runs at a low temperture (never crossing 70F), and it looks awesome with the see-thru pannel and all the glowing lights. best of all it keeps the feet warm! I have headphones with a built-in mic so i never hear my fans, just people yelling that their the 1337 sh!7z0rs and other random leet crap. It makes me want to hear the fans instead of the sound. IMHO its just too much money for a quiet machine that would not affect me because i couldnt even hear a bomb go off with my current setup.

heh (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948562)

It's certainly perfectly expensive.

Some of us dont live in our mothers basements .. very few .. but still, this is the same attitude people take when someone sudgests a mac.

Get off welfare fuck.

Am I really the only one who doesn't mind a fan? (2, Interesting)

digitalgimpus (468277) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948564)

Not that I want a helocopter in my PC... but what is the big deal? I don't put my ear to the computer, I leave it on the floor, next to the desk... and don't hear a thing with everyday ambient noise.

I think it's more about techical ability than actual noise.

Live next to a freeway? (2, Interesting)

vhold (175219) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948650)

Adjust your level of ambient noise and suddenly it'll seem important.

I used to live near a really busy street and never noticed the fan noise. When I moved out into a quieter neighborhood it became rather noticable. Once it becomes something you can actually control, you think of it differently.

pocket players? (3, Interesting)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948574)

PocketPCs are "fanless", and cheap. Even iPaq 36xx models are fast enough to play fat LAN streams. CF ethernet+adapter only costs $100, and the devices themselves are only about $100. Where is the Linux installer that makes them dedicated network players?

Re:pocket players? (1)

the-build-chicken (644253) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948862)

if you're talking ipaq...www.handhelds.org/familiar (site is down for maintenance atm though)

Erm. (1)

Xerp (768138) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948579)

running media center 2005

Can anyone spot the deliberate mistake [mythtv.org] here?

BAD MCE (1)

Telexen (718284) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948583)

No 'perfect media center' will ever run M$ software...Windows MCE is a joke and a sorry excuse for a media center OS

Re:BAD MCE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948744)

Thats why the article is titled FANless media center box

Still the fundamental problem in WMC (1)

Gyorg_Lavode (520114) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948585)

Does WMC5 still have the problem that the video is stored in a proprietary format? I would love to use WMC5, but I need to be able to use the video anywhere I want to on whatever OS.

Re:Still the fundamental problem in WMC (3, Insightful)

poopie (35416) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948809)

Propietary format, DRM, and force-fed advertising (to be rolled out in future "enhancements" a la tivo) are *features* of Windows Media Center.

Silly consumer, you are not allowed to use video anywhere you want. The music/video/broadcast agencies OwnZ J00!

You may, however use Windows Media Center on any version of Windows you want as long as it is Windows XP or newer.

Tune-in. apt-get mythtv-suite. Drop out.

http://mythtv.org

half the price is the dollar (2, Funny)

sPaKr (116314) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948592)

Half the price is the current weak dollar. So I guess we have to 'buy american' to save. Hey all you lazy midwesterns that are crying about manufactures not having any buisness, start making fanless computer cases. Damn slackers.

Just a note for the submitter and the /. eds (1)

Tim_F (12524) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948603)

Just because you and the article submitter don't know about something doesn't mean that the rest of slashdot doesn't know about it.

media center for 400 $ (1)

ghee22 (781277) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948612)

xbox = 150 $ modchip = 40 $ (not including installation) netgear wireless g router from compusa = 40 $ wireless linksys g bridge for xbox buy.com = 78 $ xbox media center = free from www.xboxmediacenter.com The Project The XboxMediaCenter Project: XboxMediaCenter is a free open source (GPL) multimedia player for the Xbox(TM) from Microsoft. Currently XboxMediaCenter can be used to play/view most popular video/audio/picture formats such as MPEG-1/2/4, DivX, XviD, MP3, AAC, JPG, GIF plus many more less known formats directly from a CD/DVD in Xbox DVD-ROM drive or of the Xbox harddrive, XBMC can also play files from a PC over a local network and even stream media streams directly from the internet. XBMC has playlist and slideshow functions, a weather forecast and many audio visualizations. All these features enable the Xbox(TM) running XboxMediaCenter to fully function as a multimedia jukebox. XBMC is easy to use, it's convenient, flexible and offers great price/performance ratio. (This, The XboxMediaCenter Project is also known as "Xbox Media Center" or simply "XBMC"). Note! XBMC is a hobby project that is only developed by volunteers in their spare-time for free. (Remember that XboxMediaCenter does require a modded Xbox to run on or it will not function). XboxMediaCenter 1.1.0 point release source code supports the following: Supported hardware platforms and Xbox options: - Compatible with modded retail Xbox, Debug/Development-Xbox and DreamX - Fully control XboxMediaCenter and its features via a Xbox(TM) IR DVD-Remote - Fully control XboxMediaCenter and its features via Xbox(TM) game controller Supported output media formats and devices: - TV-output: 50hz/60Hz NTSC-M/J (America/Asia) and PAL (Europe/Africa) - RCA, SCART, RF Coaxial, S-video, Component/RGB adapters available - Widescreen (16:9) and normal-TV (4:3) aspect ratio video output support - NTSC playback on PAL Xbox/TV and PAL playback on NTSC Xbox/TV* - HDTV support (multiple resolutions 480p/720p/1080i and progressive scan)* - VGA-output is also possible via third-party adapters or VGA-hacked BIOS - LCD-display output support to view status and control XBMC with TV OFF* - Analog audio-out (stereo/mono) via phono connection or scart adapter - Digital audio-out (mono/stereo/surround) S/PDIF optical (adapter required) Supported input media formats and devices: - Read files directly from a CD, VCD or DVD media in the Xbox's DVD-ROM drive** (Support CD/DVD formats: ISO 9660 - Mode1/2/XA, UDF 1.02 and XDVDFS/CDX) (DVD-ROM playback is on-the-fly only** (no option yet to auto-cache to HDD first) - Play files directly from Xbox built-in hard drive (copy first from DVD** or network)**** - Stream media files from a computer over a local network via XNS*, XBMSP or SMB, (including all NAS, Network Attached Storage devices that support SAMBA/SMB). - XBMC XBMSP-client code updated to support "Auto-Discovery of XBMSP servers" - Stream supported media files from the internet (if stream format is supported too)* - iTunes Music Shares via DAAP (network stream from Apple iTunes on Mac or PC)***** - Xbox Memory Cards (note that only FAT-X formated memory cards is supported)**** - USB Mass Storage Devices (USB-HDD's/memory) with FAT-X file-system**** Supported file/container formats: - Audio-CD (CDDA) playback for normal audio CD's - VCD and SVCD (Video CD) (SVCD/VCD menu's are not supported yet) - DVD-video directly from Xbox DVD-ROM (no DVD-menu's support yet)* - MPEG, MPG, M2V formats (inc. VCD's .dat and .bin and DVD's .vob) - MPEG-TS (TY/TS/DV) DVB transport stream format - RIFF AVI (AVI 1.0) container - OpenDML AVI (AVI 2.0) container* - BivX (AVI with several audio streams) container - Microsoft ASF/ASX/WMV/WMA containers ***** - QuickTime QT/MOV containers (inc. those with raw audio) ***** - Theora Video (VP3) format - Nullsoft Steaming Video (NSV) containers* - Nullsoft Steaming Audio (NSA) containers - MPA, MP2, MP3 and WAV containers - AAC, M4A, MP4 (MPEG-4 audio) unprotected containers ***** - Raw .AC3 and .DTS audio files, plus DTS with WAV-header* - RealMedia (Real Video/Audio) RM/RAM/RA/RV/RMVB containers - OGG and OGM containers - Matroska () MKV containers - VIVO (VIV) containers - PVA containers - NuppelVideo containers - FLI and FLC containers - Tracker Mods (18 formats supported) audio - M3U, PLS and STRM* audio/video playlists Supported video/audio codecs and picture formats: - MPEG-1 (VCD/MPG) and MPEG-2 (MPEG/SVCD/DVD/VOB/DV/TY) video - MPEG-4, DivX;-) 3.11, OpenDivX 4.0, DivX 5.x (Pro), XviD 1.0.1, and Nero Digital MP4 - 3ivx D4 / 3vi1 MPEG-4 video (inc. containers with MSZH/ZLIB Compressed-Header) - AVC - Advanced Video Coding (H.264) - Windows Media Video v7, v8 and v9 (MSMpeg4/WMV v1, v2 & v3) (WMV9 via DLL's) - RealVideo: 1.0, 2.0 (RealPlayer G2), 3.0 (RealPlayer 8) and 4.0 (RealPlayer 9) - RealAudio codecs: 1.0 (14.4), 2.0 (28.8), SIPRO, COOK, DNET and ATRAC3 - QuickTime 5.0, 6.0, 6.3 video and audio codecs (QDMC / QDM2) (via QT DLL's)* - Sorenson v1/v3 (SVQ1/SVQ3) QuickTime video - Theora Video (VP3) video - On2 Technologies VP4 (VP4.0), VP5 (VP5.0), and VP6 (VP6.2) (all via On2 DLL's)* - On2 Technologies VP3 (VP3.0 and VP3.2) video - Intel Indeo 3.1/3.2 (Indeo3) - NuppelVideo (NUV) - VIVO 1.0 and 2.0 (VIV) - ITU H.261 video - Creative Labs YUV (CYUV) video - Supermac Cinepak (CVID) video - Autodesk FLI and FLC Animation - WAV and PCM audio format - MPEG-audio layer 1, 2, and 3 (MP1, MP2 and MP3) - OGG (Ogg Vorbis audio codec) - WMA - Windows Media Audio v1 and v2 (WMA1/2 / DivX Audio v1/v2) - WMA - Windows Media Audio v9 (WMA9) (via WMA9 DLL's) - AC3 (Dolby Digital) 2.0, 5.1 and 7.1 audio in video AC3 pass-through (S/PDIF-out) - AC3 (Dolby Digital) 2.0 and 5.1 audio in video software decoded to stereo analog-out - DTS (Digital Theater Sound) 48Khz audio in DVD-Video (DTS digital pass-through) - DTS (DTS and DTS-WAV) 44.1Khz/48Khz audio in DVD-Video (software decoded)* - AAC - Advanced Audio Coding (Profiles: HE, Main, LC, LTP & LD, + ER) - M4A and MP4 (MPEG-4 Audio) (including Nero Digital MP4) ***** - FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) audio - BMP picture/image - JPG/JPEG picture/image - GIF picture/image - PNG picture/image - TIF/TIFF picture/image - TGA picture/image - PCX picture/image - ICO picture/image - SID (Commodore 64 tunes) audio - Tracker Mod's audio, see list bellow: (MOD/AMF/669/DMF/DSM/FAR/GDM/IMF/IT/M15/MED/OKT/S3 M/STM/SFX/ULT/UNI/XM) Features available for video playback: - Full-screen playback display of all supported video formats/containers via a TV - Auto PAL50/PAL60-switching support and auto 4:3/16:9-switching support - Adjust Framerate (23.9825fps), another NTSC PAL workaround solution* - SQL database with view by file/genre/actor/year/title and sort by year/name/rating - Selectable options from OSD (On Screen Display) Control Panel during playback - FF/RWD seeking and PAUSE in AVI/OGM/MKV/MPEG/MPG media - MPlayer seeking (2%/10% jumping) backward and forward - Video-Autorun, auto-plays VCD/SVCD/DVD/CD's with video file(s) upon insert - DVD-video playback* (only IFO/VOB and CSS decode. No menu support yet***) - Play supported video files directly from BIN, IMG, NRG and ISO CD/DVD-images* - Subtitle support (MicroDVD, srt, smi, vplayer, rt, ssa, aqt, sub, jss, mpl & VobSub) - International-language fonts for subtitles (via TTF-Fonts, configurable in UI-Settings)* - Bi-directional (Right to left) subtitle support (flip subs for Hebrew, etc. languages) - Switch between multiple subtitles in DVD-video, AVI and OGM, (but not in MKV yet) - Video Calibration: Adjust for TV overscan compensation and edit subtitle positioning - Play internet files/streams of HTTP and MMS (Microsoft Media Streaming Protocol)* - Play Nullsoft Steaming Video (NSV) internet files/streams (a.k.a. NTV - Nullsoft TV)* - Play QuickTime internet files and streams over HTTP (Hyper-Text-Transfer-Protocol)* - Streaming video from a TiVo over network (requires hacked TiVo running ccXStream)* - Streaming video from a ReplayTV (4500, 5000 or 5500 series) DVR box over network* - IMDb information (The Internet Movie Database) lookup for movie info and thumbnails - Extract IMDb URL and info from a .nfo file (if selected from under My Videos) - Optional media file and/or folder thumbnails for easy localization - Smart stacking for multi-file videos option, (show/play files with 90% name similarity) - Switch between multiple audio-streams/tracks in DVD, AVI and OGM (not MKV yet) - Video bookmarking via OSD (so can resume a movie later, even after reboot) - Different Post-Processing filters for better video quality* - GPU YV12 to RGB converter for movie playback (greatly reduces CPU load)* - Brightness/Contrast/Gamma controls (restores to default after after each video) - Flicker-filter (optional video flicker-filter with five levels, disabled by default) - Soften-filter (optional filter to decrease video sharpness and thus artifacts) - De-interlace filter (for interlaced video) implementation option - Multiple zoom/stretch options: Zoom, Stretch 4x3 or 14x9 or 16x9, Original Size, Custom - Screenshot capture function (including video overlay support and OSD) - AC3 (Dolby Digital) 2.0, 5.1 and 7.1 audio in video AC3 pass-through (S/PDIF-out) - AC3 (Dolby Digital) 2.0 and 5.1 audio in video software decoded to stereo analog-out - DTS (Digital Theater Sound) 48Khz audio in DVD-Video (DTS digital pass-through) - DTS (DTS and DTS-WAV) 44.1Khz/48Khz audio in DVD-Video (software decoded)* - Option to output mono or stereo to all speakers (for 5.1 surround speakers) Features available for audio playback/backup: - Playback of all supported audio formats via a TV and/or external audio receiver - AudioCD-Ripper, backup CDDA's to HDD in WAV, OGG or MP3 (LAME) format* - Karaoke CDG-file support for music files (enable *.cdg via Xaraoke Visualization)* - SQL database with view music by Top100/Albums/Tracks/Artists/Filenames or Recent Albums and also option to sort by Track/Filename/Date or Size - CDDB lookup support when playing/ripping Audio-CD's (done via freedb.org)* - Thumbnail and album information lookup for MP3's (via AMG/Allmusic.com)* - Audio CUE sheets (.cue) support (works with all XBMC supported audio codecs) - Audio-Autorun, auto-plays CDDA and music DVD/CD's with audio file(s) upon insert - Play internet files/streams of HTTP and MMS (Microsoft Media Streaming Protocol)* - Play soundtracks ripped by/in Xbox dashboard (add path "soundtrack://" to XML) - Play supported audio files directly from BIN, IMG, NRG and ISO CD/DVD-images - Reads ID3v1/ID3v2 tags from MP3's, also tags from OGG, FLAC and WMA - Reads information tags from M4A, MP4 and AAC (MPEG-4 Audio) audio-files* - Display embedded Thumbs from info-tags in WMA, M4A, MP4, AAC audio-files - M3U and PLS audio playlists (inc. create/save M3U audio playlists) - SHOUTcast Internet Radio (MP3 .pls M3U playlists) playback support - Local/native SHOUTcast recording (to MP3) onto the Xbox hard drive - Audio Visualizations API (and several visual generators and spectrum analysers) - FF/RWD seeking and PAUSE during audio playback/visualization* - Optional media file and/or folder thumbnails for easy localization - Option to output mono or stereo to all speakers (for 5.1 surround speakers) Features available for picture/image viewing: - Full-screen display of all supported picture and image formats via a TV - Picture slideshow, including option for adding recursive to slideshows - Picture thumbnails (automatically generated on demand) - Optional folder thumbnails for easy localization - View pictures directly from BIN, IMG, NRG and ISO CD/DVD-images - Picture Zooming, rotate, move around, info, pause, next/previous picture - Kodak PictureCD compatible* (auto-launches slideshow on CD insert)** - Auto-launches any picture CD's on insert if images in root directory Other and generic Graphical User Interface (GUI) features: - Controllable via either Xbox(TM) DVD Remote or Xbox(TM) controller/game-pad - Controllable via USB-(HID)-Mouse (Left/Right/Middle buttons and Wheel supported)* - Fully skinnable GUI structure and GUI skin switching (many skins available) - View file media listing By List, By Small Icons or By Large Icons option - Virtual-Keyboard for manual IMDb searches and settings configurations - Dashboard replacement mode (launch other applications and/or games) - Show original XBE (games and applications) icons under "My Programs" - Flatten Directory Hierarchy setting option for use under "My Programs" - Show only default.xbe setting option for use under "My Programs" - "My Files" file-manager, move/copy/delete local and copy from network - "My Weather" weather forecast module (done via The Weather Channel) - Screensavers (dim, black-screen or Matrix trails) on configurable timer in GUI - RSS feed in main meny (can manually disable or change feed in home.xml) - Python Script Interpreter Engine (execute Python scripts from within XBMC) - Shutdown-timer, to shutdown XBMC when idle, on configurable timer in GUI - Flicker-filter (optional GUI flicker-filter with five levels, high enabled by default) - International-language fonts for the GUI (via TTF-Fonts, configurable in UI-Settings)* - Language files for translated GUI (over 28 languages so far), switch from GUI - GUI and video calibration (including storing calibration settings per resolution) - Displays system info under Settings (Build date, free space, IP, temperature) - Screenshot capture function, take snap shots of GUI (inc. video overlay support) - Configurable memory cache buffer for video/audio playback, configured in GUI Other non-GUI features, functions and options: - Profiles for Settings (configure + save different hardware-setups and/or user profiles) - Fully re-mappable keys for DVD Remote and the game-pad (via keymap.xml) (inc. possibility to map and use all RCA-5 IR codes from a universal remote) - Submenu control to add/remove/edit skin buttons easy (edit dialogSubMenu.xml) - Volume control (by default mapped to right thumbstick up/down, edit in keymap.xml) - Auto-detection of UDF 1.02, XDVDFS/CDX and ISO9660 - mode1/mode2/XA* - Auto-launch Xbox game on insert with enable/disable optional from within GUI - Option to auto-launch other application upon Audio-CD/CDDA insert (set in XML) - Option to auto-launch other application upon DVD-Video media insert (set in XML) - Clock/date synchronization from a (NT SNTP) Time Server on the network/internet - Built-in WebServer for remote control of XBMC (http//:xboxIPaddressHere.asp) - Built-in FTP-Server, connect to it via a FTP client to copy files to/from Xbox HDD - Supports Static-IP/Subnetmask/DNS and alternative DHCP-client for auto-config - Network-Configuration and Setup via Graphical User Interface (Settings => Network) - Auto-temperature and fan-speed control options (Settings => General => System) - Harddrive (HDD) spindown (spin-down disk when XBMC is idle or use network)* - Emergency Recovery Console (enables the FTP-server if corrupt xml/media files)* * = Experimental, unfinished, unstable, buggy and/or limited ** = Most Xbox DVD-ROM drives are very picky with CD/DVD media disks, see FAQ *** = XBMC currently only have DVD VOB and IFO parsing support, (no menu support) **** = Xbox's hard drive file-system has file & folder name/character limitations, see FAQ ***** = DRM (Digital Rights Management) protected files are not supported by XBMC XboxMediaCenter CVS source code in addition to above supports the following: (WARNING! XBMC CVS code can be very unstable and is not meant for normal users) Supported file/container formats: - CD-TEXT support for Audio-CD (CDDA), audio CD's that have CD-TEXT information* Features available for video playback: - Play RealMedia internet steams of HTTP + RTSP/RDT (Real Data Transport Protocol)* - Switch between multiple audio-streams/tracks support in MKV (Matroska) container - Left, Right and Stereo channel selection available for all two channel audio-streams - Simple stacking for multi-file videos option, (like "-CD1" & "-CD2", "-part1" & "-part2") Features available for audio playback/backup: - Play RealMedia internet steams of HTTP + RTSP/RDT (Real Data Transport Protocol)* - Karaoke CDG-file support for music files updated and improved (plus more integrated)* Features available for picture/image viewing: - Improved slideshow function/feature XLink Kai (online gaming) front-end features: - Kai connection/cummunity front-end****** - Kai hosting options****** - Kai text-chat****** - Kai Voice-chat (using SPEEX)****** - Kai Toast - pop up notifications for XLink Kai****** Other and generic Graphical User Interface (GUI) features: - Context Menu feature (mapped by default to the TITLE button on the remote) - USB-(HID)-Keyboard support, (US-layout only), (re-mappable via keymap.xml)* - Screensaver API for XBMC, support .xbs screensavers specially designed for XBMC* - New File-manager (more logical filemanager with split windows, 'commander' -style)* - Python Script Interpreter Engine updated and improved, (for XBMC python scripts) - Optional splash-screen on start-up of XBMC (displayed if "media\splash.png" available) * = Experimental, unfinished, unstable, buggy and/or limited ** = Most Xbox DVD-ROM drives are very picky with CD/DVD media disks, see FAQ *** = XBMC currently only have DVD VOB and IFO parsing support, (no menu support) **** = Xbox's hard drive file-system has file & folder name/character limitations, see FAQ ***** = DRM (Digital Rights Management) protected files are not supported by XBMC ****** = KAI tunneling engine running on networked PC with internet access required For other development projects in progress check out our development page and XBMC-Forums

Shame they don't just sell the case (1)

Tanlis (304135) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948629)

Their cases are gorgeous compared to most of the other HTPC cases I've seen out there. About the only nices I see are fairly large compared to the size of alot of dvd players and other home theater components.

It's a shame they don't sell just the case.

Uh...no. (1, Insightful)

OmegaBlac (752432) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948632)

"Could this be the perfect media center box?"
Only if it was running MythTV [mythtv.org] instead of Microsoft's proprietary solution. ;)

The 'perfect' media box (1)

lakeland (218447) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948653)

I don't know about you, but in my world a box is perfect if it is also affordable. I reserve the term 'ultimate' for the best at any cost. Maybe this is being pedantic, but IMO the Hush boxes are as beautiful as they are unobtainable. Try configuring them online -- the charge for ram is double what it is at newegg.

Personally I went for a pegasos (http://www.pegasos.org/) because the CPU is fast enough that you don't need hardware MPEG. Of course I would have liked the hushpc better, but I have better uses for the $2000 that a fully decked out hushpc costs...

Niveus Media has one too (0, Troll)

marshmeli (122728) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948668)

I just the new PC Mag in the mail and they have a fanless Media Center by Niveus Media. It is a part of their Summit Series and goes for $3,000 and up. It says there is an optional terabyte storage server that you can attach to archieve all your digital media...
www.niveusmedia.com

Funny how I read about a similar product just as I read this article on ./

Well, we know what sever could not do the job~ (1)

Vanayr (686681) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948675)

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.573; ASP.NET Version:1.1.4322.573

Alternate link here: (1)

bsupak (519912) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948683)

http://www.ausmedia.com.au/hush_technologies_E3_MC E.htm

well i ain't no fan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948685)

with that price :P

Sound dampening (1)

kaleco (801384) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948723)

Would it not be possible to construct a case from materials which absorb sound on the inside? This would definitely not be silent, and may increase the size of the media PC though.

Shuttle form-factor PCs fit the media centre niche quite well, and at a fair price and the newer cases are gorgeous.

Far cheaper solution... (1)

deke_kun (695166) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948757)

Far cheaper solution is to simply build an oldish coppermine-based machine in a micro-atx form factor. Ive got a celey 866 running fanless, with a good quality copper heatsink, without fault. Coupled with a passively cooled video card and a silent PSU, and the only noise is the hard drive going crank!

Re:Far cheaper solution... (1)

bdcrazy (817679) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948882)

Buy a laptop hard drive and a converter, and even the drive will be fairly silent, if not utterly unnoticeable when the case is put back together.

I already have one! (1)

ReeprFlame (745959) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948793)

Why dont I just pirate Media Center, install it on my all so powerful Media Center-like PC and set it up in the living room? Why? I can just use my Pc the way it is and maybe use my spare time making a gadget that will let me use any media on my computer anywhere in the Local Area [amateur radio remote control-ish device]. Or maybe its also called Best Buy. I hear they have some awesome Home Theater Systems [non-Microsoft]

sounds expensive is right... (2, Funny)

Khyron (8855) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948798)

used XBOX game console, $120.
used game with software exploit, $5.
recent build of XMBC, free.

flawlessly playing every codec you've ever heard of and most ones you haven't?

priceless.

some people have a lot of money to burn... ...for the rest of us, there are inexpensive gaming consoles which are actually just PC's with component video and 5.1 digital audio waiting to run some powerful open source software. :)

Is it on Pimp My Ride? (2, Funny)

gelfling (6534) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948802)

Because that's about the only practical use I can think of for a midrange performance PC that costs about $3000.00. Can I get it in platinum with spinner rims, neon tubes and a waterfall?

What is their target market? (1)

Murphy Murph (833008) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948805)

Christ, for £1,791.38 the thing better be rack-mountable like most other audio/video equipment in that price-range.

Fin Fans (1)

loid_void (740416) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948806)

Fins minus Fans equals Fun!

Ouchhh (1)

vmaxxxed (734128) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948848)



3,389.61 USD !!!

I can build something like that for 2000 +/-....

... am I paying 1000+/- for a fancy box????

No way, I rather buy expensive fans !!

Different processor for heat requirements? (5, Insightful)

Atmchicago (555403) | more than 9 years ago | (#10948865)

They mention it passively cools a 2.8ghz pentium 4. Would an AMD or a Centrino processor not be a better option? (granted of course the centrino-desktop mobos just came out, it wouldn't have been possible, but the AMD certainly would). Even an AMD64 laptop processor would do fine.

I'm a FAN! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10948886)

I'm a fan of the Fanless Media Center Box. Does that still make it fanless? --oh get over it, someone had to type it!
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