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Associated Press Not Impressed By MyFi

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the like-musical-mannah-except-not dept.

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prostoalex writes "Michael Regan from the Associated Press started reviewing MyFi, a portable satellite radio receiver, by treating it as a competitor to iPod, but then admitted the two devices are quite different. For $350 and a $10-a-month subscription the buyer gets access to XM satellite radio stations and ability to record the stream to 128 MB of built-in flash. There's no way to transfer the recorded content to the computer or vice versa. The review recommends waiting for lower price and better features."

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The Associated Press? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959793)

Wow, that's hundreds of people... all not impressed.

Can anyone explain this picture? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959834)

Re:The Associated Press? (1)

Gentlewhisper (759800) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960122)

For $350 and a $10-a-month subscription the buyer gets access to XM satellite radio stations and ability to record the stream to 128 MB of built-in flash. There's no way to transfer the recorded content to the computer or vice versa. The review recommends waiting for lower price and better features."

I wouldn't be impressed either.. would you?

It sounds like a TOTALLY USELESS device!

First Post! (-1, Offtopic)

hammer revolution (836067) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959794)

--;

The hammer revolution has started!

--;

Re:First Post! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959839)

viva the hammer!

--;

Re:First Post! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960005)

Raise the --; flag!, the time is NOW!

In Soviet Russia (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959795)

In Soviet Russia, fi MYS YOU!!!

Re:In Soviet Russia (1, Funny)

aaron_hill2 (772732) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959806)

Soviet Russia jokes are soooooooo 2003. You gotta go with the in Korea jokes.

In Korea, satellite radio is for old people!

No,all wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959833)

...you BOTH FAIL IT! Netcraft will confirm it: MyFi is ALREADY dying...

I just heard some sad news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959982)

On my MyFi satellite radio... MyFi was found dead at it's home this evening.

Re:I just heard some sad news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960121)

Clutching a hammer.

--; --; --;

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959800)

fp

Oh my, he is right! (0, Redundant)

nxtr (813179) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959804)

An mp3 player is quite different from a sattelite radio reciever!

Maybe useful for Flyover-country (4, Insightful)

Dancin_Santa (265275) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959805)

In any urban area, the number and variety of free radio stations (supported by volunteers or commercial sponsors) is staggering. There really isn't any reason to splurge on an expensive device when a twist of the dial can tune in just about any type of music that an individual would be interested in. If you can't find a station that interests you in those areas, perhaps it's time to turn the radio off altogether.

Re:Maybe useful for Flyover-country (2, Insightful)

Eric Giguere (42863) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959842)

Aren't most satellite channels commercial-free? That would seem like a good reason to me. Besides, even if there are dozens of channels in your area, there may not be any you really like.

Eric
How to make money with Vioxx [ericgiguere.com]

If you don't like ClearChannel you're screwed (1)

user9918277462 (834092) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959871)

There's really only one traditional commercial radio station left in the US, but is has tens of thousands of affiliates.

I'm a fan of non-commercial radio [wfmu.org] myself.

NYC has 43 stations (a quick google search) (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959911)

Only a handful of those are ClearChannel affiliates. Most of them cater to a very specific market which ClearChannel has little or no interest in playing to.

Just because you live in Bumfuck, Wyoming, it doesn't mean that everywhere has limited radio content.

Re:NYC has 43 stations (a quick google search) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960060)

Just because you live in NYC doesn't mean that anyone anywhere else has more than one decent station. And frankly, I'd rather do without radio than live near fucks like you.

Re:Maybe useful for Flyover-country (1)

Trillan (597339) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959898)

Where the heck do you live that you have a decent selection of radio stations?

Re:Maybe useful for Flyover-country (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959942)

Newsflash: The majority of the country is not in an urban area.

Re:Maybe useful for Flyover-country (5, Insightful)

fimbulvetr (598306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959956)

You're area may be. But every station in the areas I've been to recently(Kansas City, Denver, Minneapolis) plays 2 crappy songs, then 4 minutes of commercials, followed by a good song, then 1 crappy song. In fact, most stations "brag" that they have 30 minute "rock blocks". Great, 30 minutes of junk followed by an equally long commercial break.
As far as I'm concerned, I'll pay $10 a month to not listen to BS.
On my trips across South Dakota, Wyoming, Nebraska and Minnesota, I usually give AM a shot, but not with one of these:)

Re:Maybe useful for Flyover-country (2, Interesting)

Chrontius (654879) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959997)

Really? I live in Disneyville, Florida and I can only think of one radio station (NPR excluded) that's not owned by ClearChannel.

With all the formats, there's only 3 palatable commercial stations between them. (again, NPR excluded)

Two of them are rock stations, and have irritatingly similar playlists at times. Down to those times when they're playing the same song at the same time.

Sure, there's 40 odd stations I can recieve, but if they all suck...

Re:Maybe useful for Flyover-country (4, Informative)

geoffspear (692508) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960161)

Actually, Clear Channel owns exactly 7 of the 35 radio channels in the Orlando market. But feel free to make up "facts" to fit your argument.

Re:Maybe useful for Flyover-country (3, Insightful)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960119)

"There really isn't any reason to splurge on an expensive device when a twist of the dial can tune in just about any type of music that an individual would be interested in."

That's just it, though: you need to hit the turner and hope you'll find something you want to listen to. If nothing else, satellite radios will tell you when something you want to listen to is coming on and let you tune in automatically. And you also don't have to hit the dial to avoid commercials.

When was the last time you actually sat down and listened to your radio, as opposed to using it as a noise-maker while focusing on something else?

Re:Maybe useful for Flyover-country (1, Flamebait)

xs650 (741277) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960131)

Take away clear channel, infinity, right wing hate radio, religious stations, hip-hop and ethnic stations and there isn't much left. Not even in a major radio market.

In an area with 50 stations receivable a person is lucky to find one well programmed on that meets their tastes.

I have Sirius sat radio at home and there are several music channels that I like on it, it has music for just about everyone. Without commercials.

Re:Maybe useful for Flyover-country (4, Insightful)

CatOne (655161) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960191)

Except radio is AWFUL... a typical playlist is 15 songs per day, repeated over and over and over. And many radio stations out here in NorCal take 4 1/2 minute commercial breaks... how annoying is that when you're working out? There's way too much blather... I never hear what I want and when I'm somewhere other than home, I can fish on the radio for 15 minutes before finding a song I like... which cuts out 30 seconds later and goes to... commercial.

With satellite, you can have 5 or 6 commercial-free stations that you like, and "in theory" get them anywhere. In concept it sounds great -- my DirecTV has digital radio stations and I listen sometimes when I'm tired of what I have on the iPod. But in practice, satellite radio reception is a bit spotty (as noted in the article).

Re:Maybe useful for Flyover-country (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960200)

So what if you're not in an urban area?

Me, personally, I would be happy with a man-portable, phased array antenna, DirecTV box that would let me listen to the Music Choice channels, and add that to my existing DirecTV subscription.

But I bet DirecTV, since it wants to be able to talk to the smartcards in the TV boxes to shutdown invalid cards...

useless (1)

micronix1 (590179) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959807)

i wouldnt pay more than $100 for such a device. and what happens when the user doesnt want to pay the subscription fee anymore?

Re:useless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959926)

Then don't buy it retard.

He dosn't get it. (5, Insightful)

mkmoose (759477) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959810)

As a XM user I am drooling over the features offered by this device. I owend a first generation sony PNP and now an XM Roady. This device is light years ahead of the first generation. Comparing this to a I-Pod or MP3 player confuses what the device is. It more correct to compare this to a tivo with cable.

Re:He dosn't get it. (1)

PMJ2kx (828679) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959892)

So, if I understand what you're saying, it's like apples and lemons...they're both fruit, but have different tastes, as it is with the iPod vs. MyFi.

Oh, the humor!

Re:He dosn't get it. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960000)

XM will lose out to Sirius radio in the end.

Siruis is cheaper, has more sports, less commercials and it has Howard Stern!

The only thing XM has going for it is the marketing advantage of being a two letter brand that a lot of morons will gravitate towards because of AM/FM confusion.

in short: fuck XM radio.

Re:He dosn't get it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960021)

XM does sound cooler. You have to admit that. It has got a nice ring to it that a lot of people like. dont be a player hater

Re:He dosn't get it. (1)

Triumph The Insult C (586706) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960057)

Sirius has the bad ass mascot tho

I don't think you do, either. (3, Insightful)

shaneh0 (624603) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960083)

If XM sold these units to every single one of their subscribers and nobody else, this unit is a failure.

XM's real value will be growing the supplier base, and this device is designed to do that. I'd say it's competing more in the "portable music" segment then the "satellite radio delivery options" segment, although there is of course overlap there.

But yes, I do think for a lot of consumers that are considering digital music--especially those considering these devices as gift options this holiday seasion--this device would be compared to the ipod mini.

SIRIUS IS WAAAY BETTER (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959823)

Look, there is a free trial to both XM and Sirius.

Do them both.

Compare.

Sirius has MUCH better djs, better stations, MORE STATIONS, etc.

XM is bogus, and only GM has a deal with them whereas BMW, Chevy, etc. all work with Sirius.

Re:SIRIUS IS WAAAY BETTER (4, Informative)

roche (135922) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959843)

Sirius play more "hits" while XM has more of a diverse playlist.

I prefer XM myself.

Re:SIRIUS IS WAAAY BETTER (1)

JPM NICK (660664) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959870)

Plus XM has Opie and Anthony on channel 202 who may be the best talk radio show on the radio now. they are awesome and put on a great show. XM is a superior service from what i have heard. I have a friend who has sirius in his car, but i like XM better. Both put FM stations to shame

Re:SIRIUS IS WAAAY BETTER (4, Insightful)

solowCX (796423) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959887)

Except in order to get Opie and Anthony you have to pay a monthly fee of $1.99 per radio in ADDITION to the monthly fee.

Re:SIRIUS IS WAAAY BETTER (1)

JPM NICK (660664) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960096)

even with the additional fee, it is still cheaper per month than sirius

Re:SIRIUS IS WAAAY BETTER (2, Interesting)

Triumph The Insult C (586706) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959927)

O&A the best? best at coming up with unoriginal shit maybe =)

Stern's show, OTOH, will be included in the monthly fee, along with being able to listen to a stream over the net ... another additional fee w/XM

I have XM now, but am planning on getting new stuff for xmas (by way of selling my xmpcr for a highly marked up price)

also, sirius has 3 satellites vs xm's 2. both use repeaters, so same difference

AM and FM are so out of business in 5 years. i've driven to lake tahoe and denver (from phoenix), and with satellite radio, it was nice. if i didn't have it, i would have gone nuts ...

Re:SIRIUS IS WAAAY BETTER (1)

roche (135922) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960009)

They have been trying to get XM ro remove the fee. Anthony made a post about it today over at wackbag.com

Disagree (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959969)

Had Sirius, now with XM. Why? Because (a) Sirius is stuck on endless self-promotion. Why do they keep advertising their own service on their own channels? Christ, you have to already be a subscriber to listen. (b) They have a less variety of music channels than XM - compare the lists of music offerings between the two and you'll see what I mean. (c) Sirius would rather spend its money on stupid jocks than decent music - yes now we get all those NFL games. Great. In the meantime good luck finding a good punk station, ska station, whatever-your-taste-is station.

What does Sirius have going for it? NPR. But in the music genre, they are far behind XM in my opinion.

Re:Disagree (1)

Texodore (56174) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960075)

I totally agree. I have XM, and I have Sirius on Dish Network. I have about 100 music stations on Dish Network, and none of them are remotely as good as the ones on XM. Listening to the alternative stations on Sirius, there's only so many Talking Heads songs I can listen to at any given time.

Re:SIRIUS IS WAAAY BETTER (2, Informative)

UniverseIsADoughnut (170909) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960002)

How clueless are you, Chevy is GM. Furthermore nearly all car companies are going with XM, the only one that i can think of right away that is with Sirius is Ford.

Re:SIRIUS IS WAAAY BETTER (2, Informative)

jratcliffe (208809) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960141)

XM has exclusive arrangements with Honda and GM, while Sirius has exclusive deals with Ford and Daimler/Chrysler (including Mercedes). BMW is effectively exclusive to Sirius (albeit not contractually). Toyota's still a tossup, and it looks like Nissan will split between the two.

Re:SIRIUS IS WAAAY BETTER (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960189)

I expect that toyota will go XM, seeing as how GM owns them.

Recommendation?? (4, Insightful)

fembots (753724) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959825)

The review recommends waiting for lower price and better features.

So when is the right time to buy if people take this kind of recommendation seriously?

Price will be lower than the lower price you saw yesterday, features will be better than the better features you thought that are already better.

Re:Recommendation?? (4, Informative)

MBCook (132727) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959958)

Both would be nice. But the thing is still a great deal. For the $350, you get the device, a car kit, a home kit, earphones, etc. If you take the little Delphi XM radio I have now ($99), buy the car kit ($99), the home kit ($99), the boombox so you can listen anywhere ($99), you're already over the price (those numbers may be a tad high, like $10 each).

So for the same or less, this little thing is smaller, portable, AND CAN TIMESHIFT.

As an XM radio reciever goes, this is THE DEVICE unless you only want to ever listen in your car (which, by the way, would change).

It's not cheap, but it's a good deal relative to other solutions. Plus you can use it anywhere like a walkman and it could tape Art Bell or This American Life or any other show for you to listen to later.

I'd LOVE one. I'd suggest that they offer it stand alone (no home/car kits) to lower the price, but I think we all know that would only save maybe $50 bucks because the little device is by FAR the most expensive part.

Uhh (5, Interesting)

fredistheking (464407) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959826)

>There's no way to transfer the recorded content to >the computer or vice versa.

Except to connect the headphone jack to your linein. Why is the analog solution usually overlooked so quickly?

Re:Uhh (4, Insightful)

EvilSporkMan (648878) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959864)

The analog solution works at 1x - it takes as long to transfer the content as it does to listen to it. This can easily be construed as inconvenient.

Re:Uhh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960229)

Not if you leave it running all night long when you're not using it, streaming to your analog capture device (i.e., computer).

I'll take a stab... (1)

msimm (580077) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959908)

Because its a senseless limitation. Digital > Analog > Digital from a digital device? Its also needlessly lossy, but I think inconvenience is probably the main one.

Re:Uhh (1)

NoseBag (243097) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959947)

Agreed - Just record (re-digitize) the analog output onto the machine of choice. And...I doubt that it will take the hardware hackers long to figure out a flash mem transfer method. How hard can it be?

Re:Uhh (4, Insightful)

iocat (572367) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959975)

This continues to kill me. People will listen to tinny, compressed, MP3s all day long and then recoil in horror at the lossyness of a *gasp* analog-to-digital conversion.

Yeah, it may be a 1x process, but who is out there who will be able to do this and already doesn't already have most of their music digitally anyway. XM is awesome, but I don't usually hear tracks I've never heard before, or old tunes that I simply *must* have. I'd probably only want to grab a couple tracks here and there anyway.

Re:Uhh (2, Insightful)

MBCook (132727) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960013)

All the sibling replies to this are right. Analog works, but it's a hassle.

It's Analog. That means that you go from Digital->Analog in the radio (which introduces imperfections). Then it goes from Analog->Digital in the computer (which introduces imperfections). While the quality may be close, it's not the same and without knowing exactly HOW it was compressed origionally, you can't get the same quality to filesize of the origional.

It's SLOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW. I can fill my 40gig iPod with music in a few minutes. But to copy all that off though analog would take days. While it's not as bad when the thing only holds 4 hours of stuff, that's 4 hours of my life that I'm wasting (compared to the 30 seconds to a minute 128mb of stuff should take).

You lose metadata (didn't see this in siblings). When it's on the XM thing, it knows how long each song is and the title and artist (I assume, XM broadcasts this info so it should be easy to save). When I copy that 4 hours to my PC through analog, I get one 4 hour file. No song names, no track marks, no artists, NOTHING. So you either have to do it manually or try to autodetect (like with silence) which has its own flaws.

And that's not to mention things like the soundcard on my laptop (the only PC I really use) is noisy (so the analog solution would require me to buy some kind of breakout box to get decent quality) and things look even worse.

Analog can work for a handfull of songs, but more than that... it's just too hard.

Now, wouldn't it be great if you could get a license to transfer stuff off this device ONTO your iPod? If they could work that out (say make it get automatically deleted, or you can't have any more than 12 hours of content recorded max or something) that would be FANTASTIC. Think how many of these things they could sell (even if they charged an extra $1 or $2 per month to do that).

Either way, a DVR for satellite radio (DAR - Digital Audio Recorder?) is an interesting development. Let's see if other recievers start adding these kind of features.

Re:Uhh (1)

kureido (830125) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960019)

For the same reason people liked high-speed dubbing for copying tapes -- capturing a lot of audio in real time sucks. It's also hassle to chop up 5 hours of music into individual tracks. Granted, you can find utilities to assist with that task with little trouble, but Joe User likely wouldn't try anything beyond Sound Recorder and Winamp.

USA Today keeps changing the specs on that page (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959827)

An older snapshot of the USA Today article [google.com] indicates more memory for a slightly lower cost: Which set of numbers is accurate?

OMG DONT CLICK TUBGIRL (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959860)

PARENT POST TUBGIRL

Will they ever learn (1)

mboverload (657893) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959830)

When will they learn that restricting the consumer isn't going to get them anywhere. IDIOTS!

hmmm... (2, Informative)

loid_void (740416) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959832)

There's no way to transfer the recorded content to the computer or vice versa.

not yet, that is...

Re:hmmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959875)

Read the above post. Anything that uses headphones can be recorded. Problem solved.

In Korea, (-1, Offtopic)

EvilSporkMan (648878) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959844)

only old people are impressed by MyFi.

Re:In Korea, (-1)

bstadil (7110) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960148)

I thought it was funny

Sorry some modder didn't have a sense of humor or didn't read the Korean Email story.

Re:In Korea, (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960231)

Link to story. [slashdot.org]

Wow, this is awesome (1)

mboverload (657893) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959846)

This is awesome!!! Oh, wait.... You need to stand outside in the cold to get reception, you can't play the songs you like, every song you listen to is choosen by some jerk at a desk, you can't save what you hear to an external device, and eveyone will be asking how you could be so stupid.

In Korea (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959852)

them motherfuckers eat dogs!

Collection (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959879)

Only old people eat dogs in Korea.

Neuros did it better... (0, Flamebait)

n0iz77 (793147) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959863)

the original MyFI by http://neurosaudio.com is amazing. instead of xm, i can broadcast my ogg collection to any station i want! way better than xm radio...

Re:Neuros did it better... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959896)

the original MyFI by http://neurosaudio.com is amazing. instead of xm, i can broadcast my ogg collection to any station i want! way better than xm radio...

Suck it like a man, n0iz77!

Re:Neuros did it better... (1)

fragzilla (646057) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959937)

<sigh>But it only runs under windoze.</sigh> Isn't that a major defect?

Re:Neuros did it better... (2, Informative)

Sottilde (836088) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959967)

Problem: It runs on every platform. You just need to look harder. It's completely open-source, which means that tools have been written for linux and mac. NDBM and Sourne are great multi-platform tools for the Neuros.

I have one (5, Informative)

Texodore (56174) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959902)

Random notes:

Everyone keeps saying the iPOD holds more music, has better battery life. I don't seem them competing. Maybe it's just me. The limitations of satellite radio mean you have to have an antenna and specialized hardware that sucks the juice down. But you get a 2,000,000 song library.

You can record and playback, and it has an alarm. It also comes with a home and car kit. Note that buying a SkyFi2, home, and car kit will almost cost as much as the MyFi.

I have the MyFi so I can listen while I'm walking my dog. Yes, I like XM that much to want to listen to it over MP3s or something like that. One thing your MP3 collection can't do is turn you on to new music. I wouldn't have known about many new bands (or old bands for that matter) without XM. I don't know if I would know who Muse, The Faint, or Franz Ferdinand were, and I wouldn't have found out how much I like Echo and the Bunnymen and stuff like that.

I don't think it needs more storage space. The idea is to listen to radio, which is mostly live. I think the recorded feature is for programs you can't pick up when you aren't available (a timer feature will record something for you) and if you can't pick up a signal. It's basically 5 hours of music programming.

Did I mention the talk radio and the ACC/Big 10/Pac-10 games?

I like not having to cue up playlists, pick what I want to listen to, listen to new music, etc. XM seems to want to play their deeper library more than Sirius, one reason I like their service more.

I've had it for 2 days and like it. I need to play with the wearable antenna some more before I say I love it. The signal is spotty outside at times while walking around. I have no problems in my car or at the office. Speaking as someone who is upgrading from the original Sony Xm radio, this is also a huge upgrade.

Finally, to the editors, stop knocking XM an satellite radio. Half the satellite radio stories seem to denounce it somehow. The AP review doesn't really say anything bad about it. Some of you that knock satellite radio need to try it before worshiping your iPOD again.

Re:I have one (1)

iocat (572367) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959988)

And MLB! In 2005 XM will have every major league baseball game broadcast. Oh, and, though mentioning it will reveal me to the blue state elites as a red state knuckle-dragger, it's got a 24 hour NACAR channel which is awesome. I just wish it covered all American motorsports, like champ car, Indy, and ALMS.

OMG HE DOGGED IPOD AND HES GETTING MODDED UP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960003)

quick! Old people in Korea are Modding on /.!!!!!!

Re:I have one (1)

MBCook (132727) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960036)

Finally, to the editors, stop knocking XM an satellite radio. Half the satellite radio stories seem to denounce it somehow. The AP review doesn't really say anything bad about it. Some of you that knock satellite radio need to try it before worshiping your iPOD again.

Thanks for saying that (I've noticed too and I don't get why), and thanks for the review (of sorts). Can I ask where you got yours? Did a local store have it early (they are supposed to be available in "early December"), or were you in on some beta test or what? I'd love to get my hands on one of these things.

Re:I have one (1)

Texodore (56174) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960052)

I ordered from Crutchfield. I'm not a big fan of Crutchfield, but they and Circuit City got them before anyone else and it was a crap shoot to see who got them first. Circuit City did. Oh well. Same price everywhere.

Best Buy has them sometimes now as well. They're at least on the Best Buy website. If you order on-line they'll ship soon. Check local stock as well - many Circuit City stores have had them in stock, not in stock, in stock, and not in stock again.

Re:I have one (1)

dretay (583646) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960070)

Everyone keeps saying the iPOD holds more music, has better battery life. I don't seem them competing. Maybe it's just me. The limitations of satellite radio mean you have to have an antenna and specialized hardware that sucks the juice down. But you get a 2,000,000 song library... I like not having to cue up playlists
I have to take exception here. First, the iPod has a spinning harddrive to power, has to decode mucic files, and then has to store them in ram. All of these actions also require power. Furthermore, you do not get a 2,000,000 song library in the true sense. You get a kind of serial library where you can choose among a few stations that play a particular type of music you are looking for. That is the definition of a playlist. Imho the radio is worse than a playlist because you can not skip a song that you do not like or pause a song that you do like to take a phone call. Also (and I could be wrong on this one) many of the XM stations have commercials, and only a few are commercial free.
Did I mention the talk radio and the ACC/Big 10/Pac-10 games?

And iPod does not? Last I checked iPod has brick, parachute, solitaire, and you can download text games on from the internet.
Finally, to the editors, stop knocking XM an satellite radio. Half the satellite radio stories seem to denounce it somehow. The AP review doesn't really say anything bad about it. Some of you that knock satellite radio need to try it before worshiping your iPOD again.
You just contradicted yourself in the same paragraph. Also, its ok to admit that Apple made a good product. I like Slackeware more than BSD. Just because I think Slackware is a better product does not mean that I "worship" it!

Re:I have one (1)

Texodore (56174) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960128)

All XM music channels are commercial free. The talk ones have commercials, but it's kind of weird. It would take me too long to explain all the public service stuff they play instead of commercials most of the time.

With the MyFi you can skip songs in the sections you have recorded.

ACC/Big 10/Pac-10 are COLLEGE conferences. XM plays college basketball and football games.

Apple did make a good product. I don't knock it. Just making fun of the owners of said product.

Re:I have one (5, Funny)

beerits (87148) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960135)

Did I mention the talk radio and the ACC/Big 10/Pac-10 games?

And iPod does not? Last I checked iPod has brick, parachute, solitaire, and you can download text games on from the internet.


The ACC/Big 10/Pac-10 are American collegiate athletic conferences, not video games.

Re:I have one (1)

ajna (151852) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960139)

Did I mention the talk radio and the ACC/Big 10/Pac-10 games?

And iPod does not? Last I checked iPod has brick, parachute, solitaire, and you can download text games on from the internet.

Um, brick, parachute, and solitaire are games, but they are not of the same variety as ACC/Big 10/Pac-10 games. Hint: the ACC, Big 10, and Pac 10 are college sports conferences, and the poster was referring to sports games such as football and basketball, of which you listen to broadcasts. They aren't games that you play with a clickwheel, unless you are so fabulously powerful and rich that you control the athletes.

MP3's and new music (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960154)

One thing your MP3 collection can't do is turn you on to new music.

What about using your ISP's news server, binaries newsgroups and a good reader like GrabIt??

Newsgroups are sorted by genre... I've discovered LOTS of music, some I knew of but just overlooked as a kid.

Count me in, XM rocks for me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10959921)

Personally, I am hitting the wife up for one of these at Christmas.
We have XM in her Honda Accord, and I fell in love with it from the beginning.

I winced a bit at the price, but that's why they call it the cutting edge I guess.
It would have been nice to have a bit more feedback and testing concerning the unit's performance. Battery life figures, sound quality review, and some more extensive reception stats would probably convince many 'on the fence" purchasers.

Me, I am sold. I will grab one at a box store so I will have a store manager to harass if these things turn out to be duds. 350 bucks is a lot to shell out for a conversation piece and an "Assume Bundy XM listening position" exercise in antennae positioning.

Re:Count me in, XM rocks for me (1)

iluvtrolls (717573) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960001)

Personally, I am hitting the wife up for one of these at Christmas.

Personally, I'm going to hit up your wife for Christmas.

Re:Count me in, XM rocks for me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960024)

Found a great review here:
http://www.xm411.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=7488 [xm411.com]

Net (1)

bryan986 (833912) | more than 9 years ago | (#10959923)

Internet radio will kill everything else

Re:Net (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960140)

Yeah, like the internet killed TV and terrestrial radio.

Sat radio is about control (1)

panxerox (575545) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960061)

of a captive audiance, once again media outlets are using thier money and reach to completely control what people (at least that segment that listen to radio) hear. One source one view one world.

Opportunity for Apple? (3, Interesting)

PapayaSF (721268) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960068)

Combine satellite radio reception with an iPod and you'd really have something! Much cooler and more useful than the much-rumored "video iPod". Of course, there might be licensing issues with this idea as well: will satellite radio services be upset if their broadcasts are recorded and saved?

Re:Opportunity for Apple? (1)

beerits (87148) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960167)

will satellite radio services be upset if their broadcasts are recorded and saved?

I would guess yes [slashdot.org] .

hearing music that you had forgotten about? (2, Informative)

pbjones (315127) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960099)

you spend how much to get access to music played by 90% of FM radio stations?? bah! TripleJ FM and web cast, ROX! www.triplej.net.au

Re:hearing music that you had forgotten about? (1)

CatOne (655161) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960207)

How do I get that webcast from OZ when I'm in a gym in Atlanta? Schlepping the exercise bike to the elliptical trainer doesn't seem... super convenient.

Price tag (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960125)

The reason for the $350 price tag is that you not only get the receiver, but the vehicle kit, home kit, rechargeable battery, headphones, antennas and more. If you compare that to the cost of the SkyFi2 ($100), home kit ($50), car kit ($50), and the boom box ($100); I think for $50 more the portability and convenience of recording up to 5 hours of programming justifies the cost.

explaination needed (2, Interesting)

solosaint (699000) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960184)

can someone please tell me how xm radio knows you have a subscribtion or not, i dont see how it works since its one way wireless...

Trying to prevent transfers, again? (0, Troll)

laughingcoyote (762272) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960197)

Didn't anyone learn from Sony's spectacular failure that people will not buy DRM-crippled crap?

silly thought but... (1)

dingfelder (819778) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960205)

Silly thought but...

How about a wifi enabled version, that tunes into internet radio stations automatically?

That is something that I would consider buying.

Correction (1)

dingfelder (819778) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960234)

After I posted that last message, I realized that someone is sure to think I meant that we should have a wifi version of the portable satellite radio receiver system, including the car kit etc.

What I was actually thinking was more along the line of a MP3 player with a wifi reciever built in, that could save internet radio tunes to flash media.

MyFi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10960209)

Apples and oranges. MP3 players are fairly mature tech compared to sat. radio. http://http//profiles.myspace.com/users/5194587 [http]

Please bring back the XMPCR (1)

Linuxathome (242573) | more than 9 years ago | (#10960223)

Please bring back the XMPCR [xmxpert.com] , so that I can actually have MyFi, my way.

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