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That's Using Your Head

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the grey-matter dept.

Biotech 303

broKenfoLd writes "In an earlier post, we looked at the future of Matrix-esque control over computers. In that article, monkeys got to play the games. Today at UW in Madison, WI, it's the humans who are playing video games just by thinking about it. While this is cool for us power gamers, it has many more impressive applications, including limb replacement."

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Significant Development? (3, Informative)

fembots (753724) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004772)

At first I thought it was a dupe from this [slashdot.org] , but the article did mention - "Last month, researchers at Brown University reported on the technology's success in a 25-year-old quadriplegic from Massachusetts who was able to read e-mail, play video games, turn on lights, and change channels or adjust the volume on a TV."

The final comment was "This is a significant development", but in what way?

Re:Significant Development? (2, Funny)

Eric Giguere (42863) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004880)

The final comment was "This is a significant development", but in what way?

Ender will soon be here!

Re:Significant Development? (3, Interesting)

wwahammy (765566) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005143)

How isn't that a significant development? A quadraplegic goes from being completely dependent on others to being able to accomplish things on his own and in addition some things he could only dream of (video games). That's pretty life changing I think.

hehehehe (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004776)

lolezzz

content content content
-ty

Korea. (-1, Offtopic)

ryanmfw (774163) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004790)

Soon old Korean people will be reading their email by thinking about it. I'm sorry, I had to. Cheers, Ryan

Re:Korea. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004802)

I don't get the Korean jokes. Are they supposed to replace lame in Soviet Russia jokes?

Re:Korea. (-1)

ryanmfw (774163) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004822)

Yes. There was some speculation about them colliding and annhilating each other in a joke-antijoke way, but unfortunately, they have combined to form the ultimate joke, which requires an ultimate antijoke to destroy. This is possibly something along the lines of an, "1)All your old Korean people are belong to us.2)?????? 3)Profit!", although this has not been verified as of yet.

Cheers, Ryan

Re:Korea. (-1)

EEBaum (520514) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004813)

...and beating me senseless in Starcraft with shouts of "n00b" by just thinking about it.

Re:Korea. (-1, Offtopic)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004818)

" Soon old Korean people"

I must've missed the most recent internet fad wagon, but what is the old korean joke? I've seen references everywhere but have no idea what it is from.

Re:Korea. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004837)

All your jokes belong to old Korean people. No, there was a story a few weeks ago about how email is only for old Korean people. Now it's become the new theme.

Re:Korea. (-1)

sahonen (680948) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004846)

I believe reading the comments in this article [slashdot.org] will enlighten you.

Re:Korea. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004873)

It went something like this:
/. user #23834: Lets start another shitty MEME
/. user #45331: How about "Old Koreans something something"?
/. user #23834: You're a genius!

Re:Korea. (-1, Offtopic)

EEBaum (520514) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004897)

Or, perhaps,

"Old Koreans derp di derp, DI TIDDLEDY TERP!"

Re:Korea. (-1)

mhesseltine (541806) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004973)

Or, maybe it was like the Guiness commercials:

/. user #23834: Let's use "Old Koreans" as the new Slashdot cliche

/. user #45331: "Old Koreans"? Brilliant!

Re:Korea. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004844)

> Soon old Korean people will be reading their email by thinking about it.

Soon old Korean people will revolt. Soon flocks of old Korean people will be all that's left of this great land. No longer will the laughter at old Korean jokes be echoed through are great lands, for only Old Koreans will remain, and you good Sir, will be all the more sorry.

I WANT TO PUT MY PEE PEE IN YOUR POO POO HOLE (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004794)

i want to put my PEE PEE in your POO POO HOLE

I don't mean to be a hypocrite... (4, Funny)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004795)

I really don't mean to be a hypocrite guys, I mean, "being hooked up to the machine" can be bad, and with todays world [tinfoilhat] they'd be marketing to your brain when you played online games[/tinfoilhat].

But the gamer side of me is telling me "where the hell do I sign up, I'm grabbing my car keys as I type this."

Re:I don't mean to be a hypocrite... (5, Funny)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004841)

Come on, you can grab some chick's bare breast with your mechanic arm and blame your firmware. Can you imagine punching the police officer who pulled you over for speeding, and say it has a mind of it's own. Sky's the limit!!!

Re:I don't mean to be a hypocrite... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004929)

> Can you imagine punching the police officer who pulled you over for speeding, and say it has a mind of it's own. Sky's the limit!!!

Then he'll proceed to beat you half to death with his truncheon, and say his firmw .. no wait, he'll just beat you half to death anyway.

Re:I don't mean to be a hypocrite... (1)

kesler (576674) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005041)

The court will order your logs to be read. Then they will accidently control-alt-delete you!

Re:I don't mean to be a hypocrite... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11005085)

I grabbed a girl and blamed my "firmware"...she called me a sexist pig.

Re:I don't mean to be a hypocrite... (4, Funny)

Reignking (832642) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005120)

I already blame my "firmware"...

Re:I don't mean to be a hypocrite... (3, Informative)

Spy Hunter (317220) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004917)

This technology is not what people often think it is. There is no way it could be used for mind-reading or thought control in the forseeable future. We would have to understand the brain a LOT better than we do to even begin to think about these things, plus we would need interface technology a million times better than a few electrodes.

Basically how this works is the brain adapts to the implanted electrodes, learning how to activate neurons in the right way such that a computer can detect the changes in electrical potential at the electrodes. The computer can't interpret the signals at all; it just reads potentials from the electrodes. What makes this interesting is that the brain is quite adaptable, and if the signals are used to control the inputs to a device the brain can learn to use the device much like an extra limb.

It remains to be seen just how fine and complex the control can be and how much adaptation the brain can do; but I think the medical community has been way too conservative about this so far, and I am optimistic that once we learn the right places to put the electrodes and the right way to process the brain's signals, controlling mice/keyboards/game controllers/robot limbs will be a matter of a few implants and a year or two of training. The benefit to quadriplegics will be immesurable. For the rest of us, this technology is probably not very useful. Getting the implants and doing the training will be quite an ordeal, not something you'd do to get an edge in Counter-Strike (if it even would give you an edge at all).

Re:I don't mean to be a hypocrite... (2, Insightful)

lsdino (24321) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005080)

I think you're absolutely correct about everything except for not being beneficial for normal folks.

Obviously using this for counter strike isn't going to be a great use of the technology. But what if the technology allowed you to type at 300 wpm ? That would be a productivity reason to use the technology, and if a business had an employee who could do that they'd be more profitable.

You could also imagine military applications. They could have a display that is mentally controlled - or it could even be used for weapons, just like a video game. And if the technology can be taken to the point where your brain is also reading data you could get rid of the display as well.

And finally I'm sure the porn industry will find some way to apply it - but probably the technology that doesn't require brain surgery :).

Between porn, business, and the military you touch a large portion of western society. And if there are enough reasons to justify the use of the technology and it's shown to be safe over the long term you could start to see it's profileration. That would lead to even more uses, and it'll probably grow just as the use of computers themselves have.

Personally I think it'd be fun to play around with the SDK kit - let alone actually using it for something practical.

Re:I don't mean to be a hypocrite... (1)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005042)

...and with todays world [tinfoilhat] they'd be marketing to your brain when you played online games[/tinfoilhat].

I've got even worse news for you -- your tinfoil hat won't keep you safe once Major League Baseball can directly access your brain!

Re:I don't mean to be a hypocrite... (2, Insightful)

pseudochaotic (548897) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005063)

Unless your eyes and ears operate independently from the rest of your head, they already market to your brain.

Serious Gaming (5, Interesting)

pseinstein (833696) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004798)

When this is refined it can change the way games are played in general. No longer will games be about who has the best hand-eye coordination. Rather they will be about who can think the smartest and fastest. We may end up calling any form of gaming that requires movement or manipulation of physical controls old-school.

SUPER Serious Gamers (5, Funny)

Stripsurge (162174) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004868)

Brain surgery to play video games better?

"Please Mom!"
"No Billy. That system is designed for paralyzed people not so you can play video games better" /Billy hurls himself down stairs
Checkmate

Re:Serious Gaming (4, Funny)

EEBaum (520514) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004876)

Then someday they will develop such a game that is wearable and highly addictive. Soon it will incapacitate the entire crew of the Enterprise, making it free for the taking by the clever game-developer aliens!

Re:Serious Gaming (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004895)

You mods are being overly generous to this guy. Look, not every single damn game on the market today favors hand-eye coordination over speed of thought. Reaction speed isn't all that useful in strategy games. The Sims comes immediately to mind. Games in which you go around blasting bad guys with your shotgun or rocket launcher or sports games, not surprisingly, place a larger emphasis on hand-eye coordination, as they well should.

We may end up calling any form of gaming that requires movement or manipulation of physical controls old-school.

Sweet christ. I pray we never get to the point where you can become an ace quarterback because you think faster than most people. Do we really need to take the physical aspect out of sports videogames even more than we have?

Re:Serious Gaming (1)

Mikmorg (624030) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005035)

Yes.

Whats the point of those silly sports games anyway? I mean, not that I'm especially a fan of sports in gen, but why not go out and physically do something?
The reason I play video games is to be able to use my mind, exercise it, and have fun at the same time. Same thing you do with sports for your body, etc, but where does a sports videogame rate? What does that do? Sheesh. Tetris over Madden any day for me.

Sorry for the rant, I'm feeling moody.

aw right, i get to make a back to the future ref! (4, Funny)

vena (318873) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004937)

"You mean you have to use your hands? That's like a baby's toy!"

Re:aw right, i get to make a back to the future re (1)

NotAPirate (835652) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005077)

How awesome, I was about to post the same thing.

Re:Serious Gaming (1)

RedWizzard (192002) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004970)

No longer will games be about who has the best hand-eye coordination. Rather they will be about who can think the smartest and fastest.
Hand-eye coordination is about think fast.

Re:Serious Gaming (1)

System.out.println() (755533) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005014)

Hand-eye coordination is about think fast.

First, you missed a syllable. I could probably make some joke about your thinking ability, but I won't.

Second, hand-eye reaction time (reacting right when the guy runs in front of you), hand-eye coordination(actually aiming in the right place to hit the guy), and fast thinking (hey! i should shoot that guy now) are three interconnected, but different skills.

Mind Melds, Torture, and China (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004998)

We are about 1 step away from mind-to-mind communcation. We already have mind-to-machine communication.

These kinds of experiments in mind communication probably should be classified as top secret. Imagine what the Chinese would do if they perfected mind-to-mind communication [phrusa.org] . Do the words "mental rape" or "mental torture" suggest anything?

I could imagine a scenario where a Tibetan nun is arrested by the Chinese. She knows the whereabouts of the new Dalai Lama, and the Chinese hook her up to the mind of a Chinese colonel. The colonel then mentally rapes and tortures her until she yields the requested information.

Scary stuff.

Re:Mind Melds, Torture, and China (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11005088)

I could imagine a scenario where a Tibetan nun is arrested by the Chinese. She knows the whereabouts of the new Dalai Lama, and the Chinese hook her up to the mind of a Chinese colonel. The colonel then mentally rapes and tortures her until she yields the requested information.

The colonel can already rape and torture her as he sees fit using present day technology. Why is this technology any more scary than that? Oh right, it's unfamiliar and therefore automatically bad and scary.

Re:Mind Melds, Torture, and China (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11005116)

The difference is that, with this mind communication, the torture leaves no physical scars and, hence, no physical evidence. The Chinese could deny that they tortured the Tibetan nun, and she would have a hard time in proving the crime.

Emotional abuse is harder to prove than physical abuse. Ask any abused child or battered wife. By the way, child abuse and spousal abuse are rampant in Chinese society.

Re:Serious Gaming (2, Interesting)

Ayaress (662020) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005047)

It'd be pretty interesting. As most gamer's are probably familiar, when you're doing really good at a game, you sorta enter a "zone," where the game just sorta plays itself (no Star Trek reference intended). Things just start happening a bit faster than you can consciously handle, but you still pull it off. When you've either won or lost, it can be hard to remember exactly what happened along the way. This kind of game control would really push that to its limit.

Children of Zion Can't Jack In (4, Interesting)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005059)

The Matrix is cool but here's a the rub. Neo, Trinity, Morpheus and all the rest were born in the matrix. They learnt to control their virtual bodies as they grew up. Even if the machines got it into their silicon minds to hook up one of the children of Zion it would take years for him to learn how to control his virtual body, if he ever did. We are children of Zion, and should we ever get enough electrodes implanted into our brains it will also take us years to learn how to control our virtual bodies.

Re:Children of Zion Can't Jack In (3, Insightful)

G-funk (22712) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005153)

I don't wanna.... You know, wreck it or anything, but the matrix is make believe. It has no basis in science or reality, just 16yo pothead pseudophilosophy.

No! (4, Funny)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004803)

This can't be allowed to reach the mainstream. I like using a mouse and keyboard for my FPS games. You see, when I get tagged 27 times by the same guy, have negative experience and my only kills are to my teammates, I like to have something to blame. I have gotten quite good at it.

For example: Spilled Dew on my keyboard. Darn kid dropped my mouse and there is the rollers don't quite work right. Or my favorite: holographic mouse pad wreaks havoc on my optical mouse.

Don't get me wrong... I can come up with lots of excuses. But yelling about lag only works for so long. Bad monitor? Maybe... but not as good as a story about Mountain Dew.

Heed my warning. Just say 'no' to gadgets implanted into your brain.

Re:No! (2, Insightful)

Eric Giguere (42863) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004863)

I like to have something to blame

Don't underestimate human creativity. There will always be something you can blame:

  • ... the beer you just drank
  • ... you're getting old
  • ... you haven't had enough sex
  • ... you've had too much sex
  • ... the wireless connection is too slow
  • ... etc., etc.

When machines can come up with the same creative excuses, that's when we should worry.

Eric

Re:No! (0, Redundant)

metlin (258108) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004936)

That's okay! You can come up with better excuses -

"I got more stupid"

"I'm getting older"

"I was distracted by a pr0n popup"

"My wife was making love to me"

"My dog was making out on the carpet"

"The voices in the head made me do it!"

"This is what I do when I'm horny" ...and so on.

wow (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004806)

we /.ed a /. comment

Sex (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004814)

I've been doing something similar since as far back as when I was only 12 years old. I could get an erection just by thinking about sex and not actually having it! Now that I think about it, I'm 30 and still just thinking about it...

Sorry for Double Post (4, Funny)

pseinstein (833696) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004816)

I hate double posting but it just occured to me that I need to make an obligatory reference to the ramifacations of these developments in terms of malicious applications. Think about a computer with a virus and then attaching that directly to your brain. Scary.

Re:Sorry for Double Post (4, Insightful)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004828)

"Think about a computer with a virus and then attaching that directly to your brain. Scary."

Uh, why? It's not like a malicious app has caused my mouse to turn on me.

Re:Sorry for Double Post (5, Funny)

SenatorOrrinHatch (741838) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004829)

Scary if YOU design it, that is!

Sheesh, I bet you're the guy who built those desktops without power buttons for a few years, relying on windows new ability to shut down the machine automatically instead. Will mankind never learn?

Re:Sorry for Double Post (5, Funny)

f4llenang3l (834942) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004874)

those desktops without power buttons

Are you talking about current Macs? *evil grin*

Re:Sorry for Double Post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004836)

Right, because viruses can make your mouse blow up.

Re:Sorry for Double Post (1)

moojj (716227) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004902)

I don't think the application of this technique could be used for malicious attacks on your brain. From the sounds of things the sensors merely pick up signals from the subjects brain, not the opposite way around.

Re:Sorry for Double Post (1)

name773 (696972) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005058)

ok, but what if the hardware fails: e.g. a voltage surge breaks something relating to the neurologic interface. these things are too risky for my tastes

Re:Sorry for Double Post (0)

Laebshade (643478) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004958)

Run it in userland or just not as su.

Re:Sorry for Double Post (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004989)

Firmware: Pseinstein you must kill everybody!
Pseinstein: Are you my conscious?
Firmware: Uhhh .. yes
Pseinstein: Should I start with myself
Firmware: Uhhh ... no Pseinstein, it's probably better to kill yourself last

Re:Sorry for Double Post (3, Insightful)

meganthom (259885) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005050)

Neil Stephenson has. It's called Snow Crash.

Once they develop force feedback... (4, Funny)

EEBaum (520514) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004830)

... my head asplode.

Another story about this (1)

koreaman (835838) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004834)

http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/1 3/2127206&tid=191&tid=14
some dude can open email, watch TV, and play pong with his brain.

OT Your sig (2, Funny)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004963)

DISCLAIMER: I am not from Korea.

But you are old, right?

Re:OT Your sig (1)

koreaman (835838) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005021)

No. Is anyone on /. old?

Re:OT Your sig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11005029)

I'm not a Korean, does that help at all?

Re:OT Your sig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11005078)

Define old. If you mean anybody older than 18, then there are a hell of a lot of us. If you mean anybody older than 30, there are still a good number, and growing.

Re:OT Your sig (1)

koreaman (835838) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005127)

I define "old" as anyone who uses $CURRENT_TOPIC in Korea.
Or does anything in Korea, as the new meme would suggest

WOW, GAMING TECH NEWS!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004839)

Someone better call G4 [g4tv.com] , aka the channel that replaced TechTV

yeah... 'replacement' (5, Interesting)

BortQ (468164) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004851)

Screw limb replacement. I want limb addition!

Only limbs? (1)

sheetsda (230887) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004995)

Why stop at limbs? Why not bodies? I want to be a hive mind. Just requires a little extra wireless tech and probably a vicious learning curve.

Re:Only limbs? (2, Funny)

Frogbert (589961) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005060)

Ofcourse everyone knows that multiple apendages could be much more useful in the budding niche of multi-wang pronography. Think of the possibilities TVTA!

Re:Only limbs? (0, Flamebait)

sheetsda (230887) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005091)

Who needs pr0n when you've got two (or as many as you want) bodies of different (or same, whatever floats your boat) genders... :)

Telepathy (4, Insightful)

lux55 (532736) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004853)

If they were able to figure out a sufficient amount of what a person's brain activity meant (which is exactly what they seem to be trying to do), and if they could hook that up to some sort of wireless transmitter (should be a piece of cake), it could be used for basic telepathic capabilities. Imagine hooking it up to an FM transmitter, even with just a 6' range - you could come through the radio of the car next to you. Dirty.

Seriously though, an implant that could do this would make telepathy somewhat of a reality. How cool is that?

Re:Telepathy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004959)

missing option for what will kill the internet poll [slashdot.org]

Re:Telepathy (2, Funny)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005070)

Which rock have you been hiding under.
Thats EXACTLY what RFID is really for ;)

Hero (4, Funny)

kai.chan (795863) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004858)

Jet Li and I fought a battle in our minds. I won.

Re:Hero (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11005079)

Yeah, a thousand backup archers will usually help turn the tide :)

Ghost in the Shell, anyone? (3, Interesting)

f4llenang3l (834942) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004859)

This issue brings harshly to light the ethical problems inherent in all scientific advancement. Clearly this technology can be put to excellent use to restore mobility to paraplegics, or to allow those of us who were nicknamed "Twitches" in high school to improve our success in Counterstrike: Source.

That said, this technology could also be used for less noble goals; while it says nothing about direct brain control via the implant, and indeed I feel that that would be difficult at best, perhaps even impossible, there are other questionable deeds that could be accomplished with such a device.

Certainly it will make warfare much quicker, and mass-destruction much easier; it has the capacity to lend a remote-control, push-button effect to war that was previously limited to such weaponry as ICBM's. Imagine soldiers in tanks who no longer see enemy soldiers, but just blips on a screen that they manipulate and shoot without any physical interaction! or "suicide bombers" who directly drive bomb-laden delivery trucks into buildings with their brains from over a DSL connection.

It shall be interesting to see where this technology goes.

Re:Ghost in the Shell, anyone? (3, Insightful)

v1x (528604) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005012)

While I more or less agree with most of what you've said, the fact remains that a lot of federal grant money is allocated for things like enhanced warfare.

Even if just *one* of the positive outcomes of such a technology means would lets say, let paraplegics walk or function normally, its probably worth it.

Re:Ghost in the Shell, anyone? (2, Insightful)

RpiMatty (834853) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005115)

Ummm, you seem very very paranoid about this remote control warfare. But what you fail to realize there is nothing to stop militaries from developing remote vechicals right now, that use traditional controls.
In fact i remember reading stories on slashdot about remote control development and training...

Upgrade (2, Funny)

Whom99 (673995) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004862)

The article continues: "Following the patient's successful mastery of Pong, we changed the software to run Doom3. Unfortunately, the native processing power of his cerebrum (based on very old, biological technology) only allowed him to run the game at 18 fps, and he kept gettign fragged"

"Plus, then the lights flashed, he turned evil, and we had to shoot him in the head with a plasma gun."

Oh yeah, free ipods good http://www.freeipods.com/?r=12669514/ [freeipods.com]

Re:Upgrade (3, Funny)

grozzie2 (698656) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005081)

Actually, I like this technological concept, it will allow me to mark all the free ipod pyramid trolls as 'troll', without even having to lift a mouse. Until that time, sure would be nice to see posts trolling the ipod pyramid schemes get a -1 troll automatically.

Decker and Rigger... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004866)

should turn up soon then too, no?

Ktarian Plot (1)

dupper (470576) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004869)

How long until someone combines this with opiates and makes "The Game"?

(Score: -1, Star Trek Obscure)

wrong (1)

sootman (158191) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004891)

"While this is cool for us power gamers, it has many more impressive applications..."

No, it doesn't. :-)

Shocking! (1)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004898)

from the article:

As part of that surgery, a 2-inch by 3-inch section of her skull had to be temporarily removed and electrodes implanted to pinpoint where the seizures were coming from. Then, a tiny portion of her brain was removed.

The surgery went well, and Hannibal Malmquist who was seen tucking into a freshly prepared piece of fried meat said she no longer suffers from seizures.

Re:Shocking! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004932)

It was September 11th, 2001. CmdrTaco, Slashdot, Linux and various
other mossad organizations had gathered in New York City to reap the
seeds they had sown so very long ago. For nine long years Taco and
his partner CowboyNeal had worked long and hard to strike at the very
heart of the gentile empire; the WTC towers.

Taco walked into the large skyscraper where numerous other Jews had
gathered to watch the momentous event. Nick Berg had already set his
camcorder up on a tripod to get it all on video. Even Ariel Sharon
himself had flown out to the States to celebrate the victory of Zion
over then subhuman gentiles. Taco grabbed a piece of unleavened bread
from the serving tray of a passing waiter. He took a bite out of it,
staring at the two giant ugly steel and concrete monoliths. Two
rectangular hives filled to the brim with hundreds of thousands of
disgusting gentiles of every sort. Swarming about like bees at the
behest of their gentile taskmasters, every single of them dedicated to
the complete and utter destruction of Israel and the Zionist way of
life. The Jews may control the media, banks and government and
poisoned the organizations by making them unimaginably ineffective,
but the world of electronics was yet to be under the iron heel of
Zion. That is why the mossad had their most talented agent, Linus
Torvalds develop Linux, which was designed to bogged down in a myriad
of glitches, security issues and open source itself, which guaranteed
that any program developed under it was to be a dismal failure. While
Linux was yet to topple Windows, Taco had gathered a large amount of
followers under his vast Zionist propaganda front, Slashdot. Slashdot
would be instrumental in fooling the gentile sheep into believing that
Arabs would be the culprits of the impending attacks.

Taco's thoughts were interrupted by the cheers of Nick Berg, who had
just been informed by way of his cell phone that the hijackers had
taken control of the planes. "Soon," said Berg, "the damned niggers
and their nigger kin shall be wiped out at the hands of our slaves,
the United States government!"

"Exactly," replied Sharon. "For far too long have we allowed the
gentiles to exist as our slaves. Now, the Great Journey begins.
Soon, the gentile races of the earth shall be consumed in a conflict
like no other. The forces of Zion shall bide their time and wait
until only a handful of Gentiles are left. Then we shall destroy
them, creating a JEW ONLY WORLD!"

At that moment, several waiters carted out two giant multileveled
cakes shaped like the WTC towers. The towers had been replicated
perfectly. Every window, steel beam and brick had been recreated in
easily digested cake. One of the waiters pulled out a knife in the
shape of a Boeing and handed it to Taco. "To the Jew only world!"
shouted Taco as his knife plunged into the cake and a Boeing plunged
into the WTC. The numerous Juden gathered in the skyscraper quickly
turned around to view the monumental destruction they had caused.
Taco nearly moaned with orgasmic pleasure as the first tower belched
thick plumes of smoke. He completely lost control of himself as he
ripped off his pants and began to furiously masturbate at the flaming
WTC. Taco pumped his unnaturally small dong until he ejaculated all
over the carpet. Taco's mind expanding orgasm rendered him almost
unconscious. As he collected himself, he looked around to see the
carpet almost blanketed in a thick layer of cum. Not from his
ejaculation alone, for everyone from Sharon to Joe Liberman had
throttled his meat stick at the sight of the WTC exploding before
their very eyes.

Taco let out a small scream as a menorah slipped up his anus.

It was a 9/11 to remember.
LEMONJELLO

What's new? (2, Informative)

coekie (603995) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004912)

Similar stuff been covered before in:
Brain Controlled Computing a Reality [slashdot.org]
Playing Games With One's Brainwaves [slashdot.org]
Brain Chip Approved For Paralysis Research [slashdot.org]
Brain Controlled Tightrope Video Game Shown [slashdot.org]

So "what's new"? Is it a new technique this time, has major progress been made? If so, what's the big difference compared to the previous articles?

Re:What's new? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11005027)

what's the big difference compared to the previous articles?
Why don't you read it and find out? Oh wait, it's /.

Cool but... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11004915)

Will it work through my tinfoil hat? It better not! But then again, I hope it will... Arrrggghhh!

frightening (4, Funny)

ktulus cry (607800) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004916)

Surfing the web with your brain = anonymous cowards searching for pr0n with both hands free.

Think about THAT.

Re:frightening (1)

EEBaum (520514) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004945)

Like voice recognition, sans the ensuing uncomfortable situations involving eavesdroppers!

BRAIN / COMPUTER (3, Interesting)

akuma624 (690011) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004920)

"They also are working on developing new electrodes that emit drugs that tone down the inflammation that comes from introducing a foreign object into the brain." This statement is medically interesting in the sense that the human immunoresponse to objects it doesn't recognize - e.g. antibody / antigen reaction. Not to mention that introducing even the slightest foreign object in the subarachnoid space (the space between the skull and the brain itself) is of fatal importance. At one point we have to wonder and assume that technology will eventually make all of this possible but will we maintain our "humanity" or will we undergo some change ala Caption Picard and the Borg - ?

It's the future... (5, Interesting)

igrigorik (818839) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004927)

Combine the unsurpassed parallel processing capability of our brain with speed of sequential execution of an even average home pc, and who knows what can happen. This is what you read about in sci-fi, yet it's already on our door steps. (Mind you it's in infant stage, but nonetheless.) Next thing you know faculties of Math/Science/etc. will cease to exist and instead the parents will pick if they want the latest copy of Mathematica or Maple installed in their childs brain ;)

Mindgames (1, Funny)

guttergod (94044) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004934)

I've been thinking about games ever since I was born...

*puzzled*

Imagine wetware motion capture! (2, Interesting)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004972)

Screw cameras and blue screens, jut plug your brain into the PC and control the character directly. Seriously if this was even remotely possible the very first thing I'd do is make an architecture for broadcasting animations to other players in a MMORPG. First step on the way to the matrix. Of course, this isn't possible and it's larly stupid to even bother thinking about it.

About time for some substance, you marketeers! (4, Insightful)

Lili Queen of Darkne (837578) | more than 9 years ago | (#11004978)

This kind of subject has been talked about very much lately. I appreciate that, but i'm kind of disappointed at the way the subject is handled in general. Why not discuss technical issues? How are brain patterns read? EM signals surely, so how about talking about the probes that are used? And about the signals, surely there must be some interresting stuff to discuss about fuzzy recognition here... Guys, what can i say, we're supposed to be talking about our brains and the way they work, and all i find is some kids discussing 'applications' for something they're not really willing to understand. This is NOT the marketing dept!!! Where are old time nerds? Worse, i find some 'ethical' rethorist wrecking the fun... This is not litterature, this is science, may the heretics burn! Oh, before i go, i would like to insult people who think brain control applications are two-way systems. Terrorized geeks are worth nothing, the price for greater science is never too great! (please, repliers, dont discuss my mail, discuss the hardware)

Research on "going the other way"? (4, Interesting)

suso (153703) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005001)

Does anyone know if any group is doing research on using input devices for your brain from a computer? In other words, a way of sending information back into your brain so that you could know it, hear it, visually see it or feel it?

Re:Research on "going the other way"? (2, Funny)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005096)

Isn't that exactly what this fuc .. BBZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT .. v-chip is meant to be for?

Monkeys playing Games!!! (4, Funny)

kshyler (179733) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005061)

"In an earlier post, we looked at the future of Matrix-esque control over computers. In that article, monkeys got to play the games."



Just great...now when my Halo2 scores are still:


Kills/Killed
2/25


Instead of listening to weedsmoker36 pop off I'll now get to hear chest thumping chimps.

The next step (2, Insightful)

parcifal (812729) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005083)

Well, the next step would be to eliminate the computer (used for processing the brain signals) and use an ASIC to perform the required signal processing. The ramifications of this, as the article notes are endless. Ethical questions do exist, but we will find a way to answer them (and I don't mean in a Stem-Cell kind of way...)

All fun and games... (3, Funny)

tenaciousj (769989) | more than 9 years ago | (#11005140)

Until some idiot does the first: ping -f /medula
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