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PA Sues Online 'University' For Spamming

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the can-they-get-to-university-of-phoenix-soon? dept.

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CousinLarry writes "Online 'university' Trinity Southern University (Google cache of disabled site homepage) has been sued by the state of Pennsylvania." Besides spamming, this self-described school has, as another reader points out, "awarded an MBA to a cat owned by an undercover Pennsylvania deputy attorney general." I bet my cat could get a PhD.

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You insensitive clod (3, Funny)

shoppa (464619) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030931)

My cat already has a PhD!

Re:You insensitive clod (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11030956)

What degrees catbert has again?

Re:You insensitive clod (-1, Offtopic)

Lenale (792831) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031069)

Good for you... my cat will never get one. She doesn't even know how to use the cat door, she just throws herself at the handle of the back door until it opens...

I must confess it is funny to see an eight-pound orange furball flying through the air and crashing into the door, then looking confused and trying all over again :)

But maybe this demonstration of mechanical skills and healthy work ethic is enough for a BS in engineering?

Re:You insensitive clod (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031131)

With that work ethic I would certainly hire her over most fresh college grads.

Re:You insensitive clod (1)

Trillan (597339) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031185)

Certainly she has a promising career at a help desk ahead of her. How much does it cost to mail a cat offshore?

There goes my three income family! (0, Offtopic)

Trillan (597339) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031083)

My two cats were supposed to help me bring in a higher family income.

Re:You insensitive clod (4, Funny)

rsidd (6328) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031151)

Ah but has your cat published a paper in Physical Review Letters? [aps.org]

More [uchicago.edu] about the second author of that paper (scroll down to "Hetherington and Willard article)

first post (-1, Offtopic)

hjf (703092) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030932)

yay yay

Which is smarter? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11030933)

This university could answer an old question.
Which is smarter, cats or dogs?

Re:Which is smarter? (1)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031060)

who are smarter ;) reminds me of Zimbu the Monkey in Dilbert....

Re:Which is smarter? (1)

Bob McCown (8411) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031260)

Empirical evidence suggests that cats are smarter. After all, the old adage is "Dogs have owners, cats have staff".

First meow! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11030934)

Slashdot just awarded me frist psot!

Ralph (3, Funny)

bigtallmofo (695287) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030937)



When I grow up, I'm going to Bovine University!

Re:Ralph (1, Funny)

xtracto (837672) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030957)

My cat's name is Mittens

Re:Ralph (3, Funny)

TummyX (84871) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031030)

My cat's breath smells like cat food

Re:Ralph (0, Offtopic)

kaellinn18 (707759) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031258)

You smell like dead bunnies.

Re:Ralph (1, Funny)

Wybaar (762692) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031032)

Actually, since your cat's been attending Trinity Southern, it's actually Dr. Mittens, PhD. It has a Doctor of Pouncing and Hunting degree.

Smart Cat (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11030939)

I for one welcome our new feline overlords

Re:Smart Cat (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031235)

Havard and Yale would award degrees to cats too if someone paid enough money and provided fraudelent information to the schools. The attorney general's cat did not fill out the form. The attorney general did that himself. This only proves two things. First, colleges exist soley to make money, not educate. Second, it is easy to defraud a college, especially if you are an attorney general.

This is a joke? (0)

mike1086 (188761) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030940)

Right?

Headline (2, Funny)

StevenHenderson (806391) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030952)

Did anyone else read this as "Penny Arcade Sues Online 'University' For Spamming?"

Re:Headline (1)

DigitumDei (578031) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030959)

LOL, I thought I was the only one.

Re:Headline (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11030993)

LOL you are not alone LOL

Re:Headline (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11030971)

Learn to fucking read and shut the fuck up.

Re:Headline (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031000)

No you dick.

Wouldn't be surprised. (0)

BitwizeGHC (145393) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031066)

Tycho's cat [penny-arcade.com] maybe got his MCSE from that place.

Re:Headline (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031067)

No. I read it as:

PA Sues Online 'University' For Spamming

Re:Headline (2, Funny)

Emrikol (21551) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031074)

Damn, my cat only has an MCSE [penny-arcade.com]

Well, almost. He did fail TCP/IP.

Dr Katz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11030953)

I guess the cat with the Ph.D. falls into the category
of Dr. Katz.

Thou shalt not spam (-1, Troll)

Dancin_Santa (265275) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030964)

You'd think that "doing unto others as you would have them do unto you" would rule out spamming for a Christian college. Then again, Christianity never was a very large attractor of the virtuous among us.

no way (0, Offtopic)

XxXoldsaltXxX (829366) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030965)

my cat could pass it, but i would probably still fail :P

Am I the only one (1)

WarDancer (542700) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030968)

that didn't understand why Penny Arcade [penny-arcade.com] would sue them? :)

No, I'm sure there's more than one..... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031005)

...idiot among us

Re:Am I the only one (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031085)

Yes, you are. 'Nuff said.

damnit! (1)

cakefool (801210) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030972)

Why oh why do stories like this only come along After I blow my mod points?

Come to think of it - how come my cat isn't smart enough to get a degree?

Re:damnit! (2, Funny)

Ford Prefect (8777) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031181)

Come to think of it - how come my cat isn't smart enough to get a degree?

Interestingly, your cat does have moderation points on Slashdot!

So is this where... (1)

Chuqmystr (126045) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030975)

Catburt received his degree? My bad, couldn't resist...

Real Victim (4, Insightful)

teiresias (101481) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030979)

The real victim here is any online College or University that's trying to become a credible institution. With process stories like this few people will want to take the option of online Universitys and even fewer employers will take them seriously.

Re:Real Victim (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031025)

Well, I agree with you, but there are several universities with good reputation (like this [coursepal.com] )that are already offering postgrad programms, I think that is one of the first thing to search when deciding to make an online programme.

Re:Real Victim (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031026)

Actually, degree mills like this hurt all American universities. I was talking with the head economist of a UK based multinational a while ago, and he throws all American CVs in the bin unless the university is a well known and respected one, simply because he doesn't have time to fuck about checking their accreditation.

Re:Real Victim (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031257)

Oh come on man, there is no such thing as a credible online university! University implies universitas and without discipline, social skills and physical presentation I don't care how many papers you get your nerdy brother to write for you but you can NEVER be an academic!!

Leave university for the intellectuals and go follow some technical course on your computer.

You forgot some victims... (3, Funny)

Libertarian_Geek (691416) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031293)

All those cats that put forth the effort and hard work to earn their PHDs.

Dr Derek Smart Dr (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11030980)

Seeing as this is a story about degree mills, I was wondering if I could make a joke about Derek Smart?
Thanks

They had other problems: (3, Funny)

BostonPilot (671668) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030981)

They also could not spell:
Perspective students submit a detailed self-evalution for the degree of their choice, BA, BS, MA, MBA, or PhD. A TSU registrar will evaluate your application within 5-7 days and contact you via email with the results of their evaluation.

Re:They had other problems: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031091)

How prospective of you to catch that error.

Re:They had other problems: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031187)

That's okay. An real university I know submitted their paper calendar with a mistake on every header of every page for the "Facutly of Graduate Studies". There must be thousands of copies. Ouch! I made sure I kept a copy -- it might be a collector's item someday :-)

Can't artists get degrees? (1)

mangu (126918) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031251)

Can't one get a PhD in visual arts? I assume that knowledge on using perspective would be needed for that.

Spam? (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030985)

In a world when you risk being sued by putting in your name even part of silly/generic/etc trademarked names, there is nothing that impedes to call itself "university" and even giving PhD to such things?

Of course, just for sending spam they should be closed, burn in hell, pay millons to each spammed victim and so on, but i see a better irony in my previous concern.

Re:Spam? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031010)

Of course YOU'D be happy letting some ad-hoc standards group, perhaps controlled by the gov't, to decide what was "real" education and what wasn't.

I'm willing to put up with a large number of "unaccredited" schools if it means that those schools can continue to exist.

Just because YOU think you have a handle on the TRUTH, it doesn't mean that you should have the right to close down those who believe otherwise.

Why is anyone surprised??? (5, Funny)

Joey Vegetables (686525) | more than 9 years ago | (#11030987)

From the article:

Besides spamming, this self-described school has, as another reader points out, "awarded an MBA to a cat owned by an undercover Pennsylvania deputy attorney general."

Thereby reducing the average IQ of cats, while greatly increasing that of MBAs.

Re:Why is anyone surprised??? (5, Informative)

tootlemonde (579170) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031112)

Thereby reducing the average IQ of cats, while greatly increasing that of MBAs.

The poster is alluding to a quote by Mark Twain:

If man could be crossed with the cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat.

- Notebook, 1894

More Twain quotes on cats here [twainquotes.com] .

Re:Why is anyone surprised??? (1)

kiwimate (458274) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031116)

Based on a former New Zealand prime minister's comments? From the International Herald Tribune [iht.com] :

"New Zealanders are mostly comfortable with their larger neighbor, Australia, although jokes fly in both directions. The late Prime Minister Robert Muldoon once was heckled that he had ruined the economy so badly that most New Zealanders were migrating to Australia. "They are merely raising the average IQ levels in both countries," he shot back."

Re:Why is anyone surprised??? (1)

jdaily (35368) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031142)

Based on a former New Zealand prime minister's comments?

Doubtful; that joke has been flying around for decades in different forms. In my area, it involves cities seceding to Kentucky and thereby raising the average IQ of both states.

I almost grad-e-ay-ded (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11030988)

Psssh, now where am I going to go to school?

What happens when you don't force accreditation (5, Insightful)

Nine Tenths of The W (829559) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031008)

I'll take Britain's godless socialised education every day over educational free market capitalism. Employers shouldn't have to waste time determining whether a university is real or not. This is just as disruptive as the fear of litigation that prevents people giving bad references

Re:What happens when you don't force accreditation (1)

cj_goth (525978) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031137)

But surely having this kind of free market situation in education just leads to a new business opportunity - that of independant certification/grading of university degrees? And market forces would quickly shake out the "bad" certification firms vs the "good" ones. (OK, OK, I take on board the Arthur Anderson/Enrom case and others, where the market broke down).

For every problem the market creates, it can usually find a solution too.

[qualifier - I am a product of the UK education system; I'm commenting "in theory" here, not slamming the US education system...]

Re:What happens when you don't force accreditation (2, Informative)

dAzED1 (33635) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031271)

sure, it can usually find a solution...one that costs the pleebs what little money they have.

Does what you're proposing sound *efficient* to you? Who do you think would pay for that certification? The student who becomes a worker. Why? because either the school pays for it directly (which filters down, with a surcharge, to the student), the student pays for it directly, or the employer pays for it directly (which filters down, in the form of it costing more to hire the student, thus the student is worth less pay).

OR...and this is just an idea...the inefficient "free market" BS can be muzzled a little by having places that call themselves "universities" slammed and their owners put in prison.

Want to see the economy do well? Improve *efficiency*. There's a reason the worker production figures are so important, you know.

Re:What happens when you don't force accreditation (0, Troll)

justin_speers (631757) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031195)

So you're suggesting we outlaw all private universities?

Exactly how did capitalism encourage this sort of behavior? Do you even know what capitalism is?

In a "Godless socialised education" system, there's no incentive to succeed whatsoever. When public schools do bad, they just get more money, and their "customers" have no choice. They are forced to go to them. Monopolies are bad, especially when the Government has them.

Anti-capitalists like the poster above are so quick to scream fire every time something fails that isn't run by the Government.

Here's how it is in the real world: This school scammed people, and now they'll pay the price. Their behavior is NOT being rewarded, either in profits or the whole staying out of prison thing. If capitalism means being greedy and earning money, then the people running this school are bad capitalists. I'm pretty sure they won't be making much money as a direct result of their actions.

The same thing happened to Enron. They did dumb stuff, now they're out of business. The market fixed the behavior. That's what happened here. Simply because A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL school has acted unethically and illegally random zealouts like you are going to start screaming for more Government intervention.

I would still take a mediocre private education over the best our Government can offer, thanks.

Capitalism isn't utopia, but socialism is so much farther from utopia it isn't funny. Taking random and fairly isolated incidents like this and citing them as an example of the failures of capitalism is borderline retarded. Especially seeing as how the U.S. is regulating more and more of our daily lives every day. We're hardly capitalist over here anymore. State capitalism would be a better phrase.

Re:What happens when you don't force accreditation (3, Insightful)

Albanach (527650) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031274)

In a "Godless socialised education" system, there's no incentive to succeed whatsoever. When public schools do bad, they just get more money, and their "customers" have no choice. They are forced to go to them. Monopolies are bad, especially when the Government has them.

With your great education have you even looked at education beyond your own borders? Do you think other governments aren't capable of recognising the place for rewarding success? Do you think governments are incapable of intervening when they see failure?

In the UK there's no obligation to go to your local school, you can pick any as long as you have the grades to get accepted - and others in Europe can pick one of our universities too. Yet in the US if you don't have the necessary cash you may well be forced to stay in state and go to a local school rather than explore the best that should be available to your academic ability.

I would still take a mediocre private education over the best our Government can offer, thanks.

Ever head of Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Glasgow, Edinburgh? If your government can't offer better perhaps it's time you elect a new government? Free market education determines that access is based as much on wealth as it is on academic ability. That's plain wrong.

Re:What happens when you don't force accreditation (2, Insightful)

will_die (586523) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031197)

It is not really a problem. Thier are several well known accreditation boards which are accepted. The boards range in accrediting the whole school to ones that accredit just a degree.
As for employees most don't worry about it. Thier is a set of books which they use, they look up the school and can check who it is a accedited by and dates. The human resource department does this, at the same time it is verifing that the person actually graduated.

Re:What happens when you don't force accreditation (1)

The-Bus (138060) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031307)

Is it that hard for an employer to get an HR intern or lackey to compile a list of all "real" universities in the US? Wouldn't this be as simple as getting the latest U.S. News & World Report college guide and looking at their top 200 list? (Or at least their directory [usnews.com] ).

(Also referencing this post [slashdot.org] ).

I could understand if you were checking on high schools (does Arco, ID have a Butte County High School [idahosports.com] , and are they really the Butte Pirates?? [holyducttape.com] ), but colleges and universities?

Better mirror (5, Informative)

Zen Punk (785385) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031009)


Has Timothy(or the submitter) never heard of The Internet Archive [archive.org] ?

You can actually look at the pictures, too.

I don't understand (3, Insightful)

Icarus1919 (802533) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031019)

I really don't understand the furor over this. It wouldn't be the first college degree mill out there, and it certainly won't be the last. The only one whom people who get this sort of degree are cheating is themselves. I mean, sure, at first it may seem like they are cheating employers that take this sort of thing at face value, but it'll be pretty obvious once they start fucking up their job royally because they don't know what they're doing.

Re:I don't understand (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031119)

So? Just because you get a degree the legit way, doesn't mean you know what you're doing. Just look at the recent /. article about employes with terrible spelling.

http://slashdot.org/articles/04/12/07/2143259.sh tm l?tid=133&tid=187&tid=95

My psychology teacher in college didn't know the difference between Freud and Jung. Degrees don't mean anything anymore. It's just paper.

Re:I don't understand (0, Offtopic)

kiwimate (458274) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031288)

Just look at the recent /. article about employes with terrible spelling.

Beautiful.

Re:I don't understand (2, Interesting)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031148)

I am not condoning degree mills but what you say is certainly not always right.

there is a guy that used to work here that did get his MBA from a degree mill... he paid $1500.00 for it and had it in 12 days.

he used it to get into this place, HR is typically stupid and will only hire people with degrees, he had over 20 years of experience in his field but no degree, hell he was better than the MBA's here.

over the 5 years I worked with him we became friends and he confided in me this fact.

he left here over a year ago because he saw the bull crap that management was pulling. He now works as a department manager in a competing company, making more money and has been commended twice with awards there already.

sorry, but my friend that bought his fake degree to get around cooperate HR stupidity.

and I am sure that many people do that more and more.

I do not condone it, I believe that you need to be forced to waste 4 years of your life and tens of thousands of dollars just like I did so you can gain that piece of paper that really does not way anything about your abilities.

Re:I don't understand (4, Insightful)

Feanturi (99866) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031218)

I've been getting these diploma spam emails for almost as long as there has been spam, and it always struck me as fraud and made me wonder why they weren't being arrested. You're not just cheating yourself, you get cheated as well, and for money. That's fraud, as it devalues the real thing, and fleeces the ignorant. It's about time someone started getting in trouble for it, only took like 11 years or so.

What is wrong with that? (1)

Alwin Henseler (640539) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031022)

"On Trinity Southern's Web site, where the price for a doctorate is $499, the school said it awards degrees "to individuals with the same working knowledge as a recent college graduate from a traditional university."

So why shouldn't they award a degree to a cat, if the cat shows it has the working knowledge, is worthy of carrying that degree?

The deputy attorney should be proud to have a cat that smart!

Sign the petition now! Equal rights for cats & people!

Re:What is wrong with that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031053)

the school said it awards degrees "to individuals with the same working knowledge as a recent college graduate from a traditional university."

The cat probably did have the same working knowledge as recent college graduates...

Sign the petition now! Equal rights for cats & (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031058)

Meow, mew mew meow? (Yea, Isn't it about time?)

Meow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031027)

I could never decided whether it was the stench of used kitty liter pouring out of that dorm that disturbed us most, or more the more likely culprit the amazing grades that damn cat got.

uce@ftc.gov (5, Interesting)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031028)

Like most people, I get way too much spam to forward every single piece to the FTC. But I *do* make it a point, whenever a piece of spam for fraudulent university degrees makes it past my filters, to send those e-mails along.

I wouldn't mind so much if:

* Getting a college degree at any level weren't so much work
* Getting a college degree at any level didn't cost so much
* There weren't so many underprivileged highly intelligent people who never get college degrees because they can't afford it or are under the impression that they can't get financial aid

Re:uce@ftc.gov (2, Insightful)

xtracto (837672) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031120)

Well that's the problem of living in a country where the education is kind of private, in other countries (like Mexico) high education does not cost that much so everyone can afford it.

from the can-they-get-to-university-of-phoenix-soo (1)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031035)

from the can-they-get-to-university-of-phoenix-soon department?

I'm a Brit, and I may have missed something, but isn't the UoP similar to our Open University? In which case, isn't this statement a bit harsh?

Re:from the can-they-get-to-university-of-phoenix- (1)

Nine Tenths of The W (829559) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031063)

Some of them are like the OU, some aren't. We have a law demanding accreditation for any body describing itself as a university, whereas the US has a laissez faire approach

Re:from the can-they-get-to-university-of-phoenix- (1)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031095)

ah... I know Oxford and Liverpool do online *only* programmes as well, Diploma dn MSc resepctively... never heard any complaints.

Re:from the can-they-get-to-university-of-phoenix- (1)

Doomie (696580) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031070)

UoP has extremely annoying ads on pretty much all the websites that I visit. I don't know anything about the quality of its programs, but they surely invested a hell lot of money in promoting their 'accredited online degrees' and thereby pissed off lots of people.

Re:from the can-they-get-to-university-of-phoenix- (1)

philbert26 (705644) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031099)

I'm a Brit, and I may have missed something, but isn't the UoP similar to our Open University? In which case, isn't this statement a bit harsh?

I think the UoP annoys people because it has so many ads online. It is also a favourite study location for PHBs.

My old boss did an MS there, and the course looked pretty good. It was "Information Management", which is not quite computer science, but the CS parts looked OK to me.

Re:from the can-they-get-to-university-of-phoenix- (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031168)

if you know your field like MIS or CS then you can basically sleep through the classes and graduate suma cum laude.

the sad part is that it costs you MORE than a midlevel real college.

Sounds like MIT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031039)

Sounds like MIT. I get in the neighborhood of 50 daily spams from machines hosted by MIT. Have for the last year or so. And it's not like they don't know about it. I've sent dozens of complaints to them, both in email and snail mail, and have been continually ignored. MIT = spamhaus

Cat with an MBA (5, Funny)

Nine Tenths of The W (829559) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031052)

Let's see, cats:
Expect everyone else to do the hard work
Fuck things up and cause damage through boredom
Demand the best of everything without being willing to work for it
Boss people around
Fly into fits of rage
Have short attention spans
Spend 21 hours a day resting

Is there any reason a cat shouldn't have an MBA?

and also... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031055)

Your dog wants to be a liberal arts major.

Dr. Katz (2, Funny)

cj_goth (525978) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031064)

I bet my cat could get a PhD

Well, as per the article, if your cat has a spare $499 it's his. Unless the PA DA gets to the "online university" first. Mind you, $499 buys a lot of tuna steak ...

You can almost hear Alton Poe, the Vice Chancellor, kicking himself for awarding that degree ... "I had a really bad feline about that applicant..."

Catbert (0)

Antity-H (535635) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031068)

Wouldn't the Ph.Ded cat be called Catbert by any chance ?

And here's where you can give them your money (1)

pdjohe (575876) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031077)

Here's the google cache for the order form:

Get your degree now! [216.239.59.104]

:)

Do black cats get affirmative action? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031080)

If not, I demand Jesse Jackson gets on this and demands an extortion payment..er, I mean a charitable donation

Odd (1)

TitusC3v5 (608284) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031088)

My first thought when I read the headline was "Wow...Tycho and Gabe are on the OTHER side of the lawsuit for once."

My bird couldn't get a degree ... :( (1)

DikSeaCup (767041) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031092)

He'd get in trouble for talking in class and has a short attention span. He can't sit still for long, and doesn't follow instructions.

Wait a minute - I used to get in trouble for talking in class! And my attention span is selective ... I do however manage to sit still, but I only follow instructions when not following them doesn't get me anywhere ...

Hmmm ... maybe my lovebird *could* get a degree!

New career! (1)

stink_butt (803406) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031096)

A cat with an MBA? I wonder if he is hiring? Is "Litter Box Engineer" higher up than Code Monkey?

WooHoo! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031105)

Now where's that degree track for surfing Pr0n?

Not all distance learning is a scam (4, Interesting)

The Mutant (167716) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031122)

There is an active on-line community at DegreeInfo.com [degreeinfo.com] who research and discuss the merits of each institution.

Here in the UK The Open University [open.ac.uk] has been providing fully accredited distance learning since the early 70's.

I went to a brick and mortar Uni myself, but have worked with several graduates of such institutions, both in the banking and academic worlds (I'm a banker and part time visiting lecturer at a local Uni), and they were fine; like most things, you get out of it what you put into it.

Re:Not all distance learning is a scam (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031134)

As someone who dropped out of 6th form due to a drug problem, I can't sing the OU's praises enough. I just wish we had a GED equivalent as well.

You TRULY insensitive clod! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Meoward (665631) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031158)

I really am pursuing an MBA!
-- Anonymous Meoward

My cat is an MBA too (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11031198)

Mooching Bloodyminded Animal

Too early (1)

Kernel Panic (91997) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031233)

Am I the only one that read that thinking Penny Arcade [penny-arcade.com] was suing a university?

Wow! (1)

Bilzmoude (811717) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031236)

So, they say:
TSU gives qualifying adults the opportunity to convert what is learned in life a college degree.
Interesting grammar... Shouldn't there be a "to" in there? What crap! What self-respecting person would tout a Masters degree without ever taking a single course to get it?

New name (3, Funny)

Israfels (730298) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031239)

That's DR. Socks to you buddy!

SCO, RIAA, and the MPAA may be in trouble.
We found the source of the lawyers!

Our Village Hall Needs that Cat! (2, Interesting)

ej0c (320280) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031241)

Amazingly, the Village Council hired a member's son-in-law as village administrator. His credentials (completely unchecked, of course) included just such a fine degree. He would step into the middle of a complete downtown rennovation project.

Three years later, he has returned to Arkansas (thankfully!), but has taken with him $45,000 in severance pay. His computer remains at the state Bureau of Criminal Investigation, the rumor being it may contain child porn.

And the Village has a new $100k street sweeper no one wanted. Meanwhile the police department mucks through on 25Mhz Pentium I desktops.

The Administrator position is open. We can pay the cat well.

Use of acronyms in subject titles (0, Redundant)

iphayd (170761) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031247)

What does this have to do with Penny Arcade?

Perhaps a thing for this Doctorow ... (1)

foobsr (693224) | more than 9 years ago | (#11031265)

...
Homeland security honcha has phony PhD
A senior technical official in the Homeland Security Department has a phony Ph.D. from a diploma mill. I'm thinking that I'd like to get one of these and join my parents (Dr. and Dr. Doctorow) as Dr. Doctorow, Jr.

(here) [boingboing.net]

No, no further remark.

CC.
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