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Apple Offers Mac OS X 10.3.7 Update

pudge posted more than 9 years ago | from the get-it-while-it's-hot dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "MacNN reports: 'Apple has released Mac OS X 10.3.7 via the Software Update utility. Key enhancements include improved AFP support for saving documents with long file names, improved OpenGL technology and updated ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers, improved FireWire device compatibility, updated Preview application, and improved compatibility for third party applications. The 10.3.7 update is recommended for all users of Mac OS X 10.3 'Panther.' It also includes all previous standalone security updates.'"

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Firefox New York Times Ad Tomorrow! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098543)

Blake Ross says so [blakeross.com] ! Buy it!

Dear 10.3.7 (5, Interesting)

Letter (634816) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098552)

Dear 10.3.7,

Holy sh..

I just upgraded and I got a 2.2 times OpenGL speedup.

Wow, Letter

Re:Dear 10.3.7 (-1, Troll)

cosmo_the_third (642177) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098678)

Faster, yes. But you've got to wonder how many features Apple secretly took away. After all, didn't I hear about their new iPod firmware rejecting RealNetwork's music files somewhere around here [slashdot.org] ?

Re:Dear 10.3.7 (-1, Offtopic)

Glendale2x (210533) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098823)

It wasn't a feature, that was a "feature" (note quotes). Features are supported where as "features" have no obligation to remain supported.

Re:Dear 10.3.7 (0, Offtopic)

Glendale2x (210533) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098842)

Uhh I think I replied to the wrong one... my response was to 11098678 about Real's lameness.

(waiting two minutes to post this...)

Re:Dear 10.3.7 (5, Funny)

The Illegal Pirates (840709) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099026)

Dear Sir or Madam:

We, the Illegal Pirates of the Internet Who Must Steal Everything No Matter What, already have a cabal of Freedom Hating Illegal Filetraders feverishly working on a cracked version of 10.3.7 which we will release publically for free. Apple's lack of copy protection and free distribution via Software Update has seriously impeded our efforts to violate the DMCA and cost people money, but even these extreme measures will prove insufficient to stem internet piracy of copyrighted software.

Signed,

The Illegal Pirates of the Internet Who Must Steal Everything No Matter What

Apples are yummy. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098562)

I like them in pies.

Microsoft Updates Windows XP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098566)


Microsoft has updated Windows XP today
4 patches fixing the iframe exploit and 3 related exploits

fix is available via software updates here [microsoft.com]

Yesterday. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098588)

They've been available for more than 24 hours, although we know most people won't install them.

NT and 2K also. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098614)

So these new patches can join the scores of others which remain uninstalled on at least 99% of all Microsoft Windows-based systems. Hooray for Luser exploits. They keep teh intarweb fun!

Re:Yesterday. (1)

jx100 (453615) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098871)

funny, I didn't see it when I updated earlier today.. I only updated to .6 then

I updated a bunch of systems around 22hrs ago (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11099029)

The XP patches were available then, but the 2K and NT ones weren't released until a few hours later for some reason.

Re:I updated a bunch of systems around 22hrs ago (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11099161)

5 patches were released around 2PM NZ time yesterday (which was December 15th)...4 critical and 1 recommended (an OE update).

Re:Microsoft Updates Windows XP (1)

FiReaNGeL (312636) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098597)

Mod parent up?

Slow news day, I guess...

Re:Microsoft Updates Windows XP (1)

Glendale2x (210533) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098883)

However, new Windows exploits and yet another Windows patch/update are hardly news anymore.

Doesn't work. Anyone know what's wrong? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098606)

Thank you for your interest in Windows Update

Windows Update is the online extension of Windows that helps you get the most out of your computer.

You must be running a Microsoft Windows operating system in order to use Windows Update.

Obviously your OS is sub-standard and broken. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098695)

I suggest you install Microsoft Windows immediately!

HAHAHAHAHA! Just kidding. An abacus would be better.

Never post anything here which might benefit... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098729)

...M$ Windows users! Just because they make up the vast bulk of internet users -- and are the principal sufferers of avoidable security issues -- is no reason to encourage them to install silly things like critical security patches!

Shame on you, and I hope that -1, Offtopic stings like a sonofabitch!

Wonder if this'll help World of Warcraft (1)

four2five (645777) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098568)

I know they had disabled hardware acceleration for Mac's because of issues with the graphics drives. I wonder if these improvements will allow them to turn the acceleration back on. My 12" powerbook would sure appreciate it.

Re:Wonder if this'll help World of Warcraft (1)

four2five (645777) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098604)

I'm gonna RTFA myself. I didn't bother to check the link and they spell it out in there. Sorry.

Re:Wonder if this'll help World of Warcraft (4, Informative)

Nermal6693 (622898) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098853)

According to Blizzard, the 10.3.7 update helps, but a forthcoming WoW patch will make it run even better.

quick (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098571)

quick, somebody test this for me!!!

PearPC (4, Funny)

IO ERROR (128968) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098578)

Oh no, this is going to take forever for PearPC to install.

Re:PearPC (1)

kngthdn (820601) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098615)

I was thinking exactly the same thing.

It took me 8 hours to get just 1 of the 4 OSX discs installed on my PC....

Re:PearPC (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098718)


It took me 8 hours to get just 1 of the 4 OSX discs installed on my PC....
Why 4 discs... are you trying to install everything? I can get by on just the one if I just wanted to do a bare minimum install, I highly question your reasons for doing it with all four if you are doing this with a PC. What are you doing it for?

Re:PearPC (1)

kngthdn (820601) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098845)

I've actually only installed 1 so far. It's going to take a lot of work to get the others installed.

What is there to question? It took 8 hours so I could use Safari. The other discs should be quicker and more than worth the trouble. Especially the development tools.

Besides, I want to get my money's worth and fill up my 4GB image file!

Re:PearPC (1)

Jedi_Master_SS (622260) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098966)

the reason i installed all 4 disks is i'm a windows user who needs to create some software for a non-profit company which has some users on macs

Re:PearPC (2, Funny)

c0p0n (770852) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098784)

It took me 8 hours to get just 1 of the 4 OSX discs installed on my PC....

But it does because you do it the wrong way. You can start PearPC on a Win2k VMware virtual machine, so you can pause the execution at any time...

Re:PearPC (1)

IO ERROR (128968) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098846)

But it does because you do it the wrong way. You can start PearPC on a Win2k VMware virtual machine, so you can pause the execution at any time...

I just run ppc from a terminal, and hit Ctrl-Z to pause the execution at any time.

Re:PearPC (1)

kngthdn (820601) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098879)

It took so long because it kept locking up after a couple hours.

I suspect it would run better from my Linux partition.

Re:PearPC (1)

c0p0n (770852) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098928)

I was actually trying to make a joke. Thanks for ruining it. Now I should get on crack.

Re:PearPC (1)

IO ERROR (128968) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099103)

Ruining jokes is my sole reason for posting to /.

Mod moderator stupid (-1, Flamebait)

IO ERROR (128968) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098766)

Have you never heard of PearPC [sourceforge.net] which emulates a PowerPC Macintosh under Linux, Windows and a few other assorted platforms?

Re:PearPC (4, Funny)

spacefrog (313816) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098817)

Install worked great on CherryOS, even on this ancient dual P3 box.

Oh wait, that was a dream, never mind.

All the right fixes? (4, Interesting)

dave1212 (652688) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098584)

Here's hoping it will fix the MIDI issues that occurred with Reason and 10.3.6. It's getting very frustrating to have to troubleshoot this stuff all the time with the Audio MIDI Setup Utility.

Any word on if Safari has been updated to support type-ahead-find yet? I won't be updating until I hear some Reason users speak up, and this is a sweet feature that should be in Safari by now.

Re:All the right fixes? (1)

Tsiangkun (746511) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098753)

What midi problems have you been having ?

I haven't been using much midi equipment lately, but the only problem I've noticed is that my keyboard either doesn't get detected, or gets detected but fails to controll the synths even though the green bar indicating a midi signal is being received.

Re:All the right fixes? (2, Informative)

purplemonkeydan (214160) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098983)

Install Saft [dnsalias.com] for type ahead find and other nifty stuff.

Re:All the right fixes? (1)

cmodcmodcmod (689729) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098999)

Regarding Safari & type-ahead-find: installing Saft [dnsalias.com] gives you type-ahead support. Amongst other useful features.

And, oh yeah, don't forget... (4, Funny)

metrazol (142037) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098589)

World of Warcraft. One game is the focus of most of the updates to graphics drivers. Shocking, eh? Makes you wonder, who wanted the patches more? Blizzard, the user base, or Apples lab full of level 40 somethin' developers?

Re:And, oh yeah, don't forget... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098616)

World of Warcraft. One game is the focus of most of the updates to graphics drivers. Shocking, eh?

Since this one game is pretty much at the moment the entirety of the macintosh games library... ... ... not so much.

Re:And, oh yeah, don't forget... (1)

BrookHarty (9119) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098693)

I'm getting 20FPS on an ATI9000+G4, I'd like to see benchmarks on the Nvidia 6800 ULtra DDL G5's.

My PC with ATI 9700 runs 50FPS with everything maxed and anti-aliasing on full.

In fact, the driver updates mention WoW. :)

Re:And, oh yeah, don't forget... (1)

Mr. Arbusto (300950) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099114)

I get about 25-30FPS@1600x1200 with almost every visual settings on low. A lot of the problem is my lack of ram. The disk swaps like mad when i do a turn in a city or ride a griffin. Installing the update now, we'll see.

2x2GHz G5
512MB RAM
ATI 9600XT

Good news for iBook, Powerbook owners (5, Informative)

amichalo (132545) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098609)

According to this note [thinksecret.com] , the ATI and NVIDIA updates in 10.3.7 are good news for laptop owners because they reduce power consumption, thus improving battery life.

Re:Good news for iBook, Powerbook owners (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098976)

Hmm... I'm not sure whether to be impressed with them for managing to hack a bit more battery life, or unimpressed that they released such an unoptimised version to begin with.

Better not install it yet (5, Funny)

lakeland (218447) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098624)

After all, we've all heard the horror stories about windows users who installed the windows update only to have lots of software break.

Surely apple will be similar? ;-)

Re:Better not install it yet (1)

agraupe (769778) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098652)

Quite possibly... I dunno, something about Apple makes it seem safer. I don't like updating my linux system frequently either, because updates are when things change, and when things change, things can go wrong. If it stays the same, it should work. So, I wouldn't install it right away, but usually Apple updates don't fuck things up (because I think they actually test things).

Re:Better not install it yet (2, Insightful)

Moofie (22272) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098820)

Something about Apple, like their almost bulletproof list of successfull OS upgrades?

Re:Better not install it yet (5, Interesting)

nordicfrost (118437) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098851)

Things can go south with Apple as well. As I mentioned in this topic, I got a /etc/ttys file overwritten after the latest security uodate, and the system just hung on reboot at the "starting logon window" notice.

Now, as the shit had hit the fan, I was without computer as I oly have the Apple Powerbook. I tried everything I knew, but to no avail. If I had access to another computer, I'd known that the file was overwritten by mistake and restorable from the ttys.applesaved file. Also, the system would start up in single user mode to correct this problem. But I didn't know.

Anyhoo, I decided to do a Archive and Install type from the 10.3 DVD that was included with the PB. I was prepared to spend the rest of the evening restoring settings and loading programs, but, I was stumped after the install. Everything was at its right place, spare for the wallpaper. Even the document I saved just before rebooting was on the desktop. Every setting, everything was as I remembered it, but the whole system was brand new 10.3 from 10.3.6. Incredible, but a part of the *nix goodness of keeping settings apart from the system on a user base.

There were two minor SNAFUs with the rollback, I could not start System Preferences from the Apple menu and I had to reinstall Salling Clicker (But it even understood that I had bought and registered the program after install). A quick lookup in the Apple Discussion boards adviced me to chick the old saved system in the thrash and empty it, I did and the System Prefrences menu worked.

This was something quite different from the time when I had to reinstall Windows 2k to restore the system from some b0rkness...

MacOS amazes me, but not as much as peoples resistance to it amazes me.

Re:Better not install it yet (1)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098697)

IIRC, there was only one OS X point update -- I think it was 10.2.3 or 10.2.4? -- that caused real problems. And within a couple of days of its release, they'd pulled it and released a fixed version. So my policy is to wait a week to install the updates; if there are any killer bugs, Apple will probably find and fix them in that time. Much, much, much better than, say, the situation with the infamous XP SP2.

Re:Better not install it yet (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098741)

10.3 had the ability to wipe clean external firewire drives remember? My mac didn't touch Panther until 10.3.1 because I have a firewire drive.

Re:Better not install it yet (1)

SteveM (11242) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098802)

The release notes form Apple say to disconnect firewire drives before installing this update.

Release notes here. [apple.com]

SteveM

Re:Better not install it yet (1)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098836)

That's why I specifically said "point release" -- maybe I should have been more specific; I was talking about the downloadable updates rather than the major releases.

Re:Better not install it yet (-1)

aldoman (670791) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098798)

That, and 10.2.7 and 10.3 which you know, wiped people's firewire drives which isn't anywhere as bad as a few broken applications, is it?

SP2 really doesn't cause any problems whatsoever. The only problems you'll have is most likely highly specialized Win32 or ASM apps that have been broken by the NX support.

I don't really like Microsoft (I hate IE, but the rest of their products are usually quite decent nowadays - still prefer Linux though for most tasks), but I don't like Apple either. I'd actually rather have MS in charge of the computer monopoly than Apple.

I'm sure I'll get modded down for this, but seriously, I'd much rather have a few broken applications that don't support NX and have to download a patch of them rather than having my Firewire disk deleted along with tens or hundreds of GB of really important stuff.

Re:Better not install it yet (3, Insightful)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098881)

SP2 has caused more havoc with more people's networking than, I suspect, any other OS release ever put out by any company. I know too many people, personally, who have been fUx0r3d by it to believe the "a few specialized apps" line.

As for 10.3, see what I said to another poster in the thread.

I'm sure I'll get modded down for this ...

I've always believed that anyone who qualifies their statements with that line deserves to be modded into oblivion, just on principle. If you've got something to say that you believe will be unpopular, just say it -- don't try to impress us with how tough and brave you are putting your karma on the line. Or whatever.

Re:Better not install it yet (4, Informative)

ender81b (520454) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099217)

Yeah SP2's failure rate - where by failure rate I mean turn computer into an unusable state requiring a fresh reinstall - seems to be about 1%. As for breaking specific applications I would say around 5% of people have problems. This is all based on experience working tech desk at an ISP and being a computer tech for the univeristy library.

Of course, it could be worse. I love SP2 for the fact that as soon as somebody installs it I can immediately shut off Norton "Internet Security" also known as Norton never works right, Norton constantly breaks itself on updates, Norton randomly decides to block port 80 and 25, and - oh by the way - Norton doesn't offer tech support so have fun supporting our product ISPs!

Not that I hate Norton or anything ;) but, seriously, I wish that company would get sucked into an enormous black hole and never ever ever return.

Re:Better not install it yet (1)

man_ls (248470) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098971)

I can't install SP2.

On a fully legitimate system, the first time I installed SP2, Explorer crashed when I tried to set the firewall options.

Subsequent installs of SP2, now, Explorer.exe will not start. Ever. Task Mrg>New Task>Explorer.exe doesn't even start the app, my guess is it segfaults right away. So I'm on SP1a.

piece of shit if you ask me, I *want* to use it, and I don't have the time to reformat and reinstall the applications I have.

Re:Better not install it yet (1)

Zonnald (182951) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099234)

Now 1 person in 1,000,000 fails to install SP2, Explorer doesn't start when you do and set firewall options.

QED Peice of Shit - not Windows, I think your computer and/or the way you used it, has cause the problem. Learn some problem solving techniques: none will suggest that when software is updated successfully on 1M+ computers, but 1 fails, that it is the fault of the sofware update.

so far so good... (3, Informative)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098635)

installed a couple of hours ago, and everything's working great

Re:so far so good... (4, Funny)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098882)

Bennomatic just rung me to tell you all the rest of his message:

so far, I'm just going to test the finder."

For some reason he was cut off whilst sending it, and can't get back onto his desktop.
If anyone could get an engineer sent to his house he would greatly appreciate it.

[/only_joking]

You found me out! (1)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099230)

How did you know that I was able to post my message using only the finder? I thought my mojo was secret!

Few things I'm wondering about... (4, Interesting)

zwilliams07 (840650) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098636)

Such as this issue with 10.3.6 having Firewire problems and DVD Player issues has been fixed or not. I'm going to wait a while and see what comes up at MacFixit.com and then decide if I want to upgrade.

these are the things that make me confident to pur (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098648)

I am a FreeBSD admin who is due a new laptop.

I have been watching apple for some time and reading user posts about their experiences.

I had my little sister buy an iBook and she loves it. Of course the first thing I do is teach her how to use a terminal with simple commands via aim, (which she says, is better on MacOS).

Anyway, it sure looks like I will be getting one mainly because of the shared code with BSD. Seeing such a nice clean update/README was refreshing. I simply cannot wait to use tip on a iBook.

later

Re:these are the things that make me confident to (1)

ValiantSoul (801152) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098892)

My server and desktop are both running FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE. I bought a 12" iBook in June and I absolutally love it. Go for it!

Calculator (3, Interesting)

Raven42rac (448205) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098651)

Calculator is still being goofy. It won't draw the calculator itself if you have speak button pressed enabled, you have to disable it, then restart calculator for it to work. This is just my experience. YMMV.

Re:Calculator (1)

g0at (135364) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098746)

Do any of the other modes work for you, besides "basic" and "advanced", e.g. the hexadecimal, expression sheet or graphing views? For me, the window resizes and goes blank.

Maybe this is related to having installed various pre-release builds on this system in the past, but...

-b

Re:Calculator (1)

Raven42rac (448205) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098809)

Everything else seems to work, sorry man.

Re:Calculator (1)

yroJJory (559141) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098863)

I'm having this issue, too. Calculator has effectively become useless to me for the last few system revs. I guess I have to do everything in Excel now. Ugh!

Not to insult the hordes of Mac users.... (2, Interesting)

dteichman (815136) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098667)

but doesn't that sound a bit like the press release they issued for the launch of the last update. Not to bag on them too much. 10.3.7 is good software. I've used the dev edition for a little while now (thanks to a good friend). It runs much faster than the previous version I had (original Panther). The speed increase of Open GL is extremely noticeable. Other than that, I haven't noticed much else.

Re:Not to insult the hordes of Mac users.... (1)

Myuu (529245) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099055)

I am fairly confident that Apple has used the same readme for every panther update...seriously OpenGL, Firewire, AFP, etc.

Also a patch for server (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098690)

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300 376 [apple.com]

And I must say, it was painful beta on this one

Installed... (4, Informative)

nordicfrost (118437) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098704)

...works like a charm. Last tim I installed an update, the whole system got b0rked due to an error in writing to /etc/ttys The file got a byte sum of zero, and the logon window hanged upon next reboot.

No such thing this time, and I think. I feel. I believe that the system is a bit, just a tiny bit snappier in writing to the screen. I'm on a newish Powerbook.

Me too. Bitchin thing was I had to reinstall. (1)

crovira (10242) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098890)

because of a stupid file incomplete load which was trashing the login window software.

I lost alot of my data when it wiped out the user area. (It wouldn't re-install properly. :-(

I'm glad they got over that...

update "magic" (2, Insightful)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098974)

...works like a charm. Last tim I installed an update, the whole system got b0rked due to an error in writing to /etc/ttys The file got a byte sum of zero, and the logon window hanged upon next reboot.

I love it when people are surprised when an update works.

The whole system "got b0rked" probably because you a)didn't check the disk b)had disk errors c)didn't have journaling turned on.

I support 100+ macintoshes, and when I check the system disk first (using Diskwarrior off an external drive) and repair permissions, I have yet to have anything more dramatic than the installer not complete the install requiring a second application before rebooting the system. That happened...get ready...ONCE. We have everything from Clamshell iBooks to G3's to Dualie G5s; you name it, we've got it.

Diskwarrior is excellent insurance, and one can make a boot CD/DVD or use an iPod for booting. Wait about one day to see if there's any major problems with the update or it gets pulled. Run the checks before any update, and boom, you're good.

Graphic drivers? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098715)

...here's a stupid question. Let's hope for a smart answer: If the kernel of Mac OS X (and +) is *nix style, then why can't we use their drivers for the Nvidia and ATI cards?

[Insert enlightenment here]

Re:Graphic drivers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098739)

Uhm, refering to 'us' as the *nix community... should'a clarified. :)

Re:Graphic drivers? (1)

ValiantSoul (801152) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098929)

Do you mean why can't we use the nVidia and ATI drivers for linux (and in nVidia's case, FreeBSD) on Mac OS X?
If that's what you mean, its because we do not have full access to the source, and the binaries do not run on the PowerPC processor. Also Mac OS X does not use X11 (although you can use the Darwin kernel and then X11).
Yes OS X can use X11 however it is not the actual Window server

If you mean why doesn't nVidia or ATI make OS X drivers and Apple does, its because Apple does not want to give them the required information to writing those drivers.

Re:Graphic drivers? (4, Informative)

hunterx11 (778171) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099003)

Because Mac OS X uses I/O Kit [apple.com] .

Re:Graphic drivers? (3, Informative)

phatmatt (675145) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099036)

OS X has its own style of drivers, completely different than any other operating system. It uses c++ to code their IOKit drivers, which make it easy to program, but not portable at all.

Extra extra(?) (0, Troll)

1019 (262204) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098758)

Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't enjoy seeing Apple updates..I do! But, erm..is this truly front page material?

Re:Extra extra(?) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098975)

It is front page newsworthy since it was a FREE update. Not $129 like the 10.3 update was.

Re:Extra extra(?) (2, Insightful)

Colgate2003 (735182) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099257)

It IS, however, free like 10.3.1-6 were...

Re:Extra extra(?) (4, Interesting)

Myuu (529245) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099152)

I am sorry if I come off as harsh but I am sick of seeing these comments and am probably going to copy this reply to every one of these.

Slashdot is such a damn immense community that it has to appeal to everyone. As a Mac owner, this ia big news to me and the comments are helpful. However, I really couldn't give less of a crap about a new kernel update, FreeBSD, a crappy MMPORG release, RMS bitching about something, or a new rc for slack or moz. Yes I use firefox and am a religious debian user, but I really don't care. So you know what I do? I scroll down, I don't go into the thread and post a 'wtf' type comment.

Its been a couple months since the last point update and the security updates don't make the front page, so yes, I do think it is FP worthy.

um, how about SMB browsing fix? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098759)

You know, how about a fix so that oh... you could browse for SMB connected printers again? This broke in 10.3.6 HARD.

Holy shit, 26.4 MB for the delta update from 10.3.6 to 10.3.7? What crack are they smoking?

MOD parent up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11099004)

I too would like to see that SMB bug resolved. Has this been addressed in 10.3.7?

Re:um, how about SMB browsing fix? (1)

omeomi (675045) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099200)

Huh...didn't know that was a bug...I just thought I had something screwey somewhere on my network...that's interesting.

woohoo (5, Funny)

famouswhendead (771397) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098780)

Now I don't need to format my external drives myself.

hypehypehype (0, Troll)

templest (705025) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098791)

Why do people get so excited and exclaim to the world "Alleluyah!" whenever a new god-sent patch is released by the deities of Apple, and scold Microsoft when they fix a couple bugs?

Hint: Mark this insightful. ;)

Re:hypehypehype (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098920)

The ones from Apple tend to be minor bug fixes and even improvements in the way things work.

The ones from MS tend to be way overdue security fixes that arrive late, are quite monolithic, break shit and generally a hassle to clean up after. Hmmm, sounds like "Steve Ballmer, party guest from hell".

Halleluiah.

I use Panther and... (5, Interesting)

mwielgosz (838127) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098818)

this update (10.3.7) seems to have made my old iMac G3 respond faster than before. It seems to draw just a bit faster as well, making my experience with OSX much better. Before 10.3, OSX was extremely laggy on my 400mhz (G3) 128mb ram hardware.

With performance increases like this, OSX seems to just be getting better - good work Apple.

Disconnet Firewire Harddrives (4, Informative)

SteveM (11242) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098821)

Apple's release notes [apple.com] say to disconnect firewire drives prior to installing.

From the notes:

If you have a third-party FireWire hard drive connected, turn it off and disconnect it before installing this update. Reconnect it and turn it back on after installation is complete and you've restarted.

SteveM

DP 2.5 G5 6800 Nvidia and UT 2004 (4, Informative)

thedogcow (694111) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098868)

I just updated to 10.3.7. I did run Cinebench but I don't think that is an accurate method of bench testing.

I ran UT 2004 on my DP 2.5 G5 w/ 6800 Nvidia. WOW. Its like playing on "slomo 2" without using the cheat. Much faster. FPS averaging around 110 with everthing turned on to max.

fuck apple (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098870)

okay all you zealot fanboys, resist the urge to bite my head off. I know a bunch of ppl who get screwed by apple policies in the past. I don't see the point of buying into the platform, it's overpriced, your locked in and completely dependent on apple, so then whatever apple says is how it will go. I have baghira for kde so I have all the nice interface eye-candy if i want to turn it on.

really, I want choices and an open platform, the pc is far from perfect, but apple has always sucked, even back into the 8bit days. Oh I miss the Atari and the Amiga, I weep for their demise and what could have been if they could have evolved.

everytime I think I want a mac because they look slick, I remember I have to eat apple's dog food, there will be no games, limited applications, and the iron rule of apple. I suppose you people have your own reasons for choosing your platform, but every time I read apple threads here, 50% + of the mac ppl seem like they turn their brains off and get all hot and horny for stevey's penis which they can never touch or compare to their own. I guess I feel like taking a moment to say most of your advocates suck, and reinforce my view that I should stay away. happy wankfest, I know you're not all bad, or stupid, and there are some nice tools on the mac. it could be so much better. oh well. hopefully my faith in linux proves to be fruitful.

peace out you freakz. get out of here and go do something useful :)

Re:fuck apple (2)

templest (705025) | more than 9 years ago | (#11098970)

Either that or you can get a "slick" mac and install linux on it. Not to mention 'OS X' is built on BSD, so you don't necessarily have to only use Mac apps. I think people have to realize that 'OS X' is just a pretty interface built for a pre-existing BSD sub-system (granted, with a few proprietary tweaks).

You, don't even own one, so how the hell could you even talk about how good or bad they are? People get screwed by all companies, all the time. Some screw more than others, and in different ways. You just sound like a Linux fan-boy that doesn't like accepting the fact that there are other viable alternatives to Linux. Your entire thread is nothing more than a childish, stupid, rant. And you deserve a negative karma score.

*shakes fist*

You did know you could install linux on a PPC, didn't you? Or did that just slip your mind when you got so excited whilst describing Steve's penis?

Why is this on the main ./ page? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098880)

I'm not trying to be provocative and I am, in fact, proudly a Mac fanboy. But what about this upgrade makes it worth being in the main slashdot news? I'm not asking this rhetorically---I really am curious.

Re:Why is this on the main ./ page? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11098986)

Yea its just a slow day I guess. Things like this should be left to news sites like macrumors.com

Re:Why is this on the main ./ page? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11099020)

IT is FREE is why. Steve Jobs just gave mac zealots a holiday bonus.

Network Browsing (4, Insightful)

Khuffie (818093) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099014)

What really pisses me off is network browsing. In the original Panther release they fixed this: you could click on the Networks tab, see the computer on the network you want to access, and immediately see the folders on there.

Then they go and for some reason disable that (it was the number 1 most useful 'upgrade' in Panther), to what was there before: you'd see the computer on the network, and you'd have to mount any folder you want to access...it's really annoying. They have that in the Tiger beta...hope they keep it.

Much better performance in Safari (1)

randallman (605329) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099068)

I've got a new iMac and can say that the scrolling in Safari is great now. It was very choppy before.

Screen Spanning Doctor (1)

omeomi (675045) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099219)

Anybody know if it breaks the iBook/iMac screen spanning hack (http://www.rutemoeller.com/mp/ibook/ibook_e.html) ? I'm guessing it doesn't, but one never knows...

I wonder which 3rd-party ITunes plugins... (0, Troll)

cutecub (136606) | more than 9 years ago | (#11099238)

...this update seeks to destory?

-Sean
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