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Whippersnappers Bad-Mouth Old Games

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the in-my-day-we-only-had-8-bits-and-we-liked-it! dept.

Classic Games (Games) 699

1up.com has posted the second in an article series called "Child's Play", where they invite youngsters to experience the joys of classic gaming to hilarious effect. From the (sob) article: "Bobby: After you beat the Death Star level, there should be a snow level, then a small speeder bike level. They should make a Matrix game in the theme of Star Wars. So then you take out your sword and run up to a guy and go, "Chiiing!" And after you saw through his head, you fly inside your X-wing."

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Where's the Death Star level of Slashdot? (5, Funny)

Cold Winter Days (772398) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200821)

This one's getting boring.

gnaa fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200823)

first post gay niggers

YET ANOTHER FAILURE FROM THE LOSERS AT THE GNAA! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200873)

What's the matter, did mommy make your favorite mac and cheese for you in your little basement nerd room? If your fingers weren't sticky from the fake cheese then maybe you could have gotten the first post. Then again, IF YOU HAD A LIFE AT ALL YOU WOULDN'T EVEN BE IN THE GNAA! Get back to your IRC life, loser.

Nostalgia is overrated. (1, Troll)

CyberThalamus (822198) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200827)

Speaking as a non-whippersnapper (27 years old), I think nostalgia is going to be a real problem soon. As we start changing what it means to be human with artificial ears and eyes that can plug directly into machines, we can't keep clinging to the past. My eyes are looking firmly forward to the future, even though I did enjoy many of these classic games.

Re:Nostalgia is overrated. (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200997)

Speaking as a non-whippersnapper (27 years old), I think nostalgia is going to be a real problem soon.

'cuse me, but at 27 you are still considered by many to be a "whippersnapper" and by quite a few to barely have achieved true adulthood (now considered around 25 or so). At that, the term is "young adult". Don't confuse the legal definition of "adult" as it pertains to smoking, drinking, sex, voting, conscription, etc. I'm talking about the commnunity/society definition and recognition among "older" adults. Of course there are differences among individuals with some achieving adulthood much sooner, but sadly, others much later.

For you to talk about "nostalgia", reminds me about one time when I was in an arcade and I heard a couple of 17-ish "men" say, "yeah dude, I remember way back when, like a year ago, that ..."

Perhaps they should have played Wolf3D! (4, Funny)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200831)

From the article, I couldn't make this shit up if I tried:

Bobby: It's probably because the Nazis felt bad having a cement fighting place, so they put little trampolines under-

Parker: Wait. What do Nazi's have to do with it?

Bobby: Because Zangief is a Nazi.

EGM: He's Russian. Not German.

Garret: He's a communist.

Bobby: Then why is Zangief's place a Nazi place?

EGM: It's not.

Bobby: Yes it is-it had a Nazi sign on the cement.

Parker: It couldn't have been. They wouldn't have let that in videogames.

Bobby: Whatever.


This proves it... Video games DO rot the brains of young and impressionable children. They wouldn't have allowed a swastika in a video game? Pure blasphemy [areyep.com] I say, plain and simple. We need to bring back video games that teach children some history. They should at least be able to recognize a swastika in a video game!

If your child's video games aren't teaching them valuable lessons about World History who is?

Re:Perhaps they should have played Wolf3D! (-1, Offtopic)

ral315 (741081) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200864)

In Soviet Russia, swastikas do you!

Re:Perhaps they should have played Wolf3D! (2, Insightful)

radd0 (558899) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200926)

From Mike Tyson's Punch Out:

Garret: "Mike Tyson" is bad publicity for this game.

Parker: Nothing is bad publicity.

Garret: Maybe Mr. T is Nintendo's marketing director. Mike Tyson was all like, "I'm gonna eat your dogs; I'm gonna eat your kids...."

You're right. There's no way I could make up shit that good either, but no doubt the editors at Ziff Davis can. :)

Sociopaths in training! (1, Funny)

Faust7 (314817) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200929)

Video games DO rot the brains of young and impressionable children.

...and turns them into homicidal maniacs:

EGM: Do you feel bad about shooting the humans?

Parker: No, that's my only amusement in this game.

Children do it without LSD?? (1)

notany (528696) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200998)

We adults must use chemicals. No wonder why we look back to our childhood with nostalgia.

Re:Perhaps they should have played Wolf3D! (4, Informative)

Rahga (13479) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201040)

Actually, the kid saw the hammer & sickle and thought "Nazi sign", confusing it with a swastika.

And, for what it's worth, Nintendo didn't allow Wolfenstein's swastikas in the port to the SNES... I'd say Parker's at least half right. :)

Word up (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200835)

Frosty Piss.

! Woot !

Classic Gaming (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200836)

lol, what?

Who is driving? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200840)

bear is driving!
How can that be?

what about the best clasic game ever... (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200847)

I didn't see any mention of Nethack. Nethack rocks! But I'd bet most "Whippersnappers" would hate it.

Re:what about the best clasic game ever... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200947)

I'm not a whippersnapper and I hate it.

Re:what about the best clasic game ever... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11201106)

That's because you're a raving homosexual who swallows your dad's hot load for breakfast every morning.

Re:what about the best clasic game ever... (1)

PKPerson (784484) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201003)

I guess i would be a whippersnapper(15), however, I have played nethack, and i found it interesting and could have played it for a long time, but if I have a modern compter at my disposal, i perfer newer games. However, i do play nethack on my Pocket PC. The earliest game i really enjoyed was wolf3d, and still play it every one and a whild, but I dont want to spend money on an old consile (atari)

Re:what about the best clasic game ever... (5, Funny)

buffer-overflowed (588867) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201087)

The earliest game i really enjoyed was wolf3d, and still play it every one and a whild, but I dont want to spend money on an old consile (atari)

Uhhh.... My head asplode.

Like the first one... (5, Insightful)

GeorgeMcBay (106610) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200854)

Like the first one, this one seems made-up. A lot of the quotes, while funny, seem too canned (and too backhandedly insightful in some cases) to have really been made by young children.

Re:Like the first one... (5, Insightful)

Cylix (55374) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200894)

Precisely what I was thinking and about to post on.

The kids made a reference to Gleaming The Cube and a billion other reference.

I've seen 11 year olds... they are not that bright.

They make reference that are just too damned mature.

Too bad I'm at work and I don't have time to pick through every statement that just doesn't fit.

Re:Like the first one... (2, Funny)

Harbinjer (260165) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200918)

Yeah, I was really wondering if 11 year olds have gotten so much more mature than they used to be.

Re:Like the first one... (3, Insightful)

ack154 (591432) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201010)

What about the 10 yr old who said he "played this" on his cell phone... (referring to Defender)?

Why does a 10 yr old have a cell phone? That's the part I'm stuck on.

Re:Like the first one... (5, Interesting)

magnwa (18700) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200973)

I referee soccer. I deal with 11 year olds and younger and older all the time. Don't doubt them. They're a lot smarter than they ever let on. I've had discussions in game with a few of them and they brought up soccer stars of old, plays that are legendary but fifty years old, and history of games and rules that a lot of advanced referees in my area don't know.

11 year olds can be EXTREMELY intelligent, so long as they've not been told to shut up all their life.

Re:Like the first one... (2, Interesting)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201059)

The one which really got me was "Mike Tyson does not have a handlebar mustache". I don't think most people old enough to grow one know the proper definition of a handlebar mustache, let alone a 13 year old.

Re:Like the first one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11201083)

>I've seen 11 year olds... they are not that bright.

Yet someone modded *you* 'Insightful.' Hypocrite.

Re:Like the first one... (2, Interesting)

VE3ECM (818278) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200992)

There are way too many references to pop culture things that kids probably don't know about (or care about)....

The oldest kid on here is 11 or 12... and they're making Mike Tyson rape / ear biting jokes? Those happened quite a long time ago.

Not to mention the one kid knew everything about Blanka's bio... very unlikely, especially when he said Blanka was his brother's favourite character of all time.

Then there's the Adventure crack about ducks. Clearly ripped from Homestar Runner.

I call Shenanigans.

Re:Like the first one... (2, Insightful)

osu-neko (2604) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201094)

Then there's the Adventure crack about ducks. Clearly ripped from Homestar Runner. Err, how young are you? Cracks about the "ducks" in Adventure predate Homestar Runner by a couple of decades...

Re:Like the first one... (4, Insightful)

Jerf (17166) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201007)

If you mine enough random sentances [retrologic.com] , you can get some truly profound stuff. Every geek should spend at least a couple of hours with some source text and a markov chain generator.

But it isn't the random generator that is profound, it is the person doing the selection.

Similarly, while the majority of what the kids say may be worthless, a selection process can make the raw material look more intelligent than it is. You are probably reading more into the sentances than the kids actually meant, because you're only getting the sentances that you can read more into.

Not saying it isn't fake, but it doesn't have to be.

Re:Like the first one... (4, Insightful)

Naikrovek (667) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201020)

not all 11 year olds are unintelligent. in fact, they're surprisingly intelligent when you spend a bit of time with them.

i wasn't stupid when i was 11, i was fixing TVs and my friends' game consoles.

don't be so quick to demean children. they're not stupid.

Re:Like the first one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11201079)

These little mofos are like what, 13?
They've been pacified by the media to such an extent that they're little more than marketing drones in "No Fear" shirts.
I think that my age group (16-20) is about the last group that's gonna produce good programmers. These young whippersnappers don't get what it's like to hack a driver together or telnet to your friends server.

Wow! (1, Offtopic)

Line_Fault (247536) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200855)

Arrogant brats strike again!

omfg (2, Insightful)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200859)

Because people were stupid and like addictive games..

If it's stupid to like a game that is addictive, what is it to like a game that isn't addictive at all, but still shell out real money to play it?

This kids are HIL-arious! (2, Insightful)

lawpoop (604919) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200866)

Take this dialogue from the review of the Star Wars arcade game:

EGM: What do those lasers look like?

Anthony: Stars.

Garret: Fireworks.

Bobby: Fireballs.

Parker: Psychedelic snowflakes.

Dillon: It's snowing up.

Rachel: This looks like a game out of Willy Wonka or something.

Bobby: It's like, "I'm Willy Wonka. I've created a new Star Wars."

Someone give these kids a contact!

Re:This kids are HIL-arious! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11201073)

Someone please give them some ritalin.

I'm sorry but I won't RTFA... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200868)

...unless it's digitally signed.

Wel (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200871)

EGM: Before this came out in compilations, we used to put quarters in arcade machines.

Parker: You wasted quarters on this?

EGM: Yeah.

Parker: That's so sad.

He does have a point...

Anyway, it's interesting to read these kids' descriptions of old games. Of course, these games are way retro; these came out before I really got into gaming, so I don't attach quite the level of nostalgia to it as others do. Now if they played doom or wolf3d and said that was crap, then I'd be like "wtf"

Anyway, it's natural if you think about it. Kids today are exposed to graphical feasts with games like Halo 2, going back to the old games when you didn't have the type of computational power to pump out those textures and polygons, is like starving.

But still, games were better back then, when they concentrated more on the gameplay and/or story before the prettiness of the graphics.

Re:Wel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200924)

Now if they played doom or wolf3d and said that was crap, then I'd be like "wtf"

You didn't rtfa, did you? Somewhere in the latter parts of the article, they said the first GTA sucked. Seriously, wtf?

Re:Wel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200942)

Ah, I never played the first GTA, I must be deprived :(

First GTA I played was GTA2... that was classic!

Too short though.

Re:Wel (1)

sk8dork (842313) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201042)

gta2 is like gta1 but with better graphics [haha] and the implimentation of gangs and other small features. i for one never played gta2 much, but was a fiend for gta1.

Re:Wel (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201093)

The first GTA did suck. Hard. The controls sucked, the graphics sucked, the "story" and missions sucked. Everything about it sucked. And it sucked twice as hard on the PSX, which was the version "reviewed" in the article.

It only persisted because of the theme, much like Postal or Carmageddon, which likewise sucked.

I'm surprised they managed to turn it into the franchise it is today.

Re:Wel (1)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201031)

I was talking with a friend of mine (we had just installed some roms) and while the graphics aren't as impressive as they seemed to have been back then - I remember back in the day when 8 bit and 16 bit graphics came out. All of us at the time were amazed and going "wow, look at that." Yea they seem lame today compared to our standards (altered beast for sega seemed SO cool back then, but now between game play control, and graphics its crappy....but thats by todays standards, not 10 years ago).

Though there are certain games that should never be knocked because they were revolutionary - Wolfenstein 3d, Doom 1, Pac Man (gotta give props to this one), Final Fantasy. These are games that sparked up many many games that followed suit. There are tons of FPS games out there. THere are tons of FF type games. And Pac Man, well thats the first.

Now what we should do - when you have kids (if you don't already) punish them by sending them to their room and force them to play Pong on an old atari. Now that would be insane punishment.

Re:Wel (2, Interesting)

eln (21727) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201108)

Wolf3d is a great game because it was revolutionary. However, if you play a modern game like, say, Half Life 2, and then try and go back and play Wolfenstein 3D, you will probably quickly become bored.

Yes, Wolf3d and Doom created a genre, but modern FPS games are far, far better than they are in terms of graphics AND gameplay. The intensity level is way up, and the games are far more exciting to play.

I would never badmouth these classic games based on what they meant to the gaming industry, and hoe they pushed the technology forward, but if you want me to play one of these really old classics and one of the new modern games, and get me to choose which one I'd rather play right now, I'm going to go for the modern game almost every time.

Re:Wel (1)

wheany (460585) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201119)

But still, games were better back then, when they concentrated more on the gameplay and/or story before the prettiness of the graphics.

Yeah, nowdays every game is photorealistic, but when you tilt the stick, the game won't react until like 3 seconds later. And sometimes they even go to the opposite direction then you pushed the stick. The games are totally unplayable.

I don't know why I keep buying all these unplayable games with amazing graphics!

kids say the darndest things... (5, Funny)

sailforsingapore (833339) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200878)

Those little punks need some sense beaten into them. I think it would be appropriate to administer a severe beating to each by smacking them upside the head repeatedly with an old Atari joystick, then pistol whipping them with a Nintendo light gun.

Or, maybe I'm just over-reacting because the artical makes me feel old.

Re:kids say the darndest things... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11201080)

If you really wanted to hurt them, pound them with those huge "sports" controllers from ColecoVision.

Darn Whippersnappers (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200879)

Back in my day, we didn't have consoles at home. We had to walk uphill, both ways, to the video arcade. And we had to put tokens in the machines. We didn't have quarters because of the war. But the point of the story is, I had an onion on my belt.

Downhill After Sierra's Classics (5, Funny)

hexed_2050 (841538) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200881)

Everything went downhill after Sierra stopped making their classic Space Quest series, King's Quest series and the such. These were games that actually look some sort of cognitive abilities and sometimes puzzles could stump you for days depending on how you viewed a certain situation. These days, it's all about point and click and there is no more typing "look east", "east", "throw midget east".

Seriously.. I think I remember having to throw a midget once, but for the life of me I can't remember which game it was in.

Star Wars Arcade!!! (1)

tygerstripes (832644) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200897)

I spent £3 completing that once!!!

Of course, to put it in context, £3 was worth a lot more in those days. You could buy a house for that back then. Or a table-top PONG game...

Re:Star Wars Arcade!!! (2, Funny)

byolinux (535260) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201050)

£3 is currently about $900, too ;)

In my day, we didn't even have pong (5, Funny)

scotay (195240) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200902)

We had to tie a flashlight to a string and hit it with badminton rackets. Kids today don't know how easy they have it and are way too spoiled. Thankfully, social security will be broke buy the time they retire and they will have to sell their organs just to buy catfood. I'll be laughing at them from the grave.

Re:In my day, we didn't even have pong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200976)

Thankfully, social security will be broke buy the time they retire and they will have to sell their organs just to buy catfood. I'll be laughing at them from the grave.

Or maybe, they'll be at least semi-intelligent and prepare for their retirement on their own by investing in 401k's and IRA's, and not just slack around waiting for the Government to take care of them when they are old.

Re:In my day, we didn't even have pong (1)

spectre_240sx (720999) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201027)

The government sure takes enough away from me right now claiming that it's to support me when I'm older. I damn well better get that support!

perhaps they should have...... (-1, Troll)

msjumbu (763237) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200904)

Perhabs they should have known computers and games, before trying anything of this sort. Losers

Old fogies bored with new computer games (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200905)

Over Christmas I got a chance to finally check out Halo and after all the hooplah, I was like, "big deal... yet another *yawn* first person shooter... oooh, another alien-esque ripoff devoid of any creativity.." This is the standard by which the new generation's gamers consider good?

I stopped buying console games after the N64 introduced a new wave of medocrity in gaming. With a few exceptions from Nintento direct, almost all the third-party games were crap. Aside from Wave Race 64 and a few others mostly from Nintendo, I really hadn't seen anything that was even remotely innovative in the gaming world. FPS's have been run into the ground and there's only so many permutations of this genre you can make before they all start to seem the same. There's something pathetic about first-person or reality-based games where the main enjoyment involves wandering around breaking things and torturing people. And the tiresome D&D ripoffs that give you carpal tunnel syndrome.

I'm sure there may actually be some decent games that have been made in the last ten years, but I haven't seen anything that impressed me.

Re:Old fogies bored with new computer games (1)

hexed_2050 (841538) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200971)

Yes, what you say is true. These days concentration has been put on graphics instead of creativity. 15 years ago, we were forced to use our imagination for the lack of graphics, sounds, and other stimulations, ultimately inspiring us to lead the way and attempt to create something better. These days the creators are us, and the games are becoming too much like hollywood. This leads to kids wanting to "watch" games and wait for the next big release rather than proactively attempt to learn or care to learn how it was all done, and the engineering that went into its creation.

Re:Old fogies bored with new computer games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200983)

Over Christmas I got a chance to finally check out Halo

Maybe you should have tried Halo 2 instead of the original which is 3 years old now. If you play #2 you'll like it!

Re:Old fogies bored with new computer games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11201070)

It was just as dull as the first one, another *yawn* game.

this article is missing... (3, Funny)

bje2 (533276) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200910)

i feel like this article should've featured Bill Cosbby asking the questions, while plying them with Jello Pudding pops...

These kids aren't all bad... (4, Funny)

Rahga (13479) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200915)

Proof that kids can relate to the older generation:

Dillon: And to think 20 years from now, people are going to think, "Oh, you're playing [GameCube Zelda game] Wind Waker? That's boring."

EGM: What will you say when your kids say Wind Waker looks boring?

Parker: Get out of my house. You're out of my will.

Exactly! (1)

suso (153703) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201049)

While a lot of you might think that these kids are ungrateful SOBs, they are more like us 20/30-somethings than you can imagine. They are at the bleeding edge of their domain, exactly like most of us were. I can remember being young and saying the same exact things about toys that my parents played with.

These kids will grow up one day and be amazed at the latest generation of kids saying something like "You mean you actually used your hands to play games".

I find it actually refreshing to read these kids comments.

This can't be real (2, Insightful)

Matt2k (688738) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200916)

"Rachel: I like this game because I can do all these things that are so against what I'd ever do in reality.

Garret: That's the whole point of videogames. "

Do all 11 year olds talk like this? This just screams "Fake"

Re:This can't be real (4, Funny)

TrollBridge (550878) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200960)

You really have to wonder when Rachel says something like "I like this game because I can do all these things that are so against what I'd ever do in reality. Of course eventually the boundary between reality and video game will become blurred, and I will be compelled to act out my violent fantasies against my classmates. And it's all because evil corporations prey on weak, susceptible minds like mine, so they can desensitize me to violence and demand more and more violent video games."

Re:This can't be real (1)

Tsiangkun (746511) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201116)

I vote fake.

One minute the kids confusing galaga with a fighting game, and the next they are making insightful observations about the skater from 720 resembling gleeming the cube, while thinking they are playing skate or die.

Understanding Games. (2, Interesting)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200923)

Unfortunatly most kids have no idea on how many of these games where huge in their day and the cost of computing graphics to make snail shaped bushes. Even in the newer 3d Games I keep an eye on all the faults in the graphics Funny Shading off colors visible Poligons, Odd Movement, Walking threw objects. These are the things that future kids will see in the games and say how much they suck. Look at Doom 3 all these guys look like they are made from rubber, Those textures just dont cast the right shadow when the light hits it it just gets brigher and darker, Are these guys soposed to be scary, Why don't there cloths fold they just kida move into their arm. How come after I shoot them once they dont bleed to death after some time or try to patch themsefs up.

Sorry, just couldn't resist... (1)

daveschroeder (516195) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201090)

Ignoring the egregious grammatical and punctuation errors:

Unfortunatly = Unfortunately
Poligons = polygons
threw = through
brigher = brighter
soposed (????) = supposed
cloths = clothes
kida = kinda
themsefs = themselves

Jesus Christ. PLEASE tell me you didn't graduate from high school. Or, for the love of God, college.

Re:Sorry, just couldn't resist... (1)

Naikrovek (667) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201118)

...exactly what i was thinking.

old games are fun (1)

cRueLio (679516) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200925)

i'm 16, yet i still prefer playing Doom 2 over the latest and greatest FPSs. to be honest, these newer games are too complicated and realistic and there is nothing left to your imagination.

i play Doom and Doom2 using the <a href="http://doomsdayhq.com">Doomsday engine</a>, which adds modern graphics (inc. 3d models) and online play to the familiar old Doom games. it's said that younger kids expect so much from games these days.

Old Skool (5, Insightful)

jafac (1449) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200928)

Last year saw the rebirth of the old Atari 2600 games, with those cheap battery-powered joystick things, that have a bunch of pre-loaded classic videogames.

I got one as a stocking-stuffer, and spent hours playing the old 2600 Adventure, Asteroids, etc. (and the newer console that had Galaxians, and Dig-Dug).

My kids would just look at me, shake their heads, go back to their rooms and go back to playing their xBox.

"Mom? I don't get it. Why does dad play those stupid games?"

Re:Old Skool (2, Informative)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201114)

If retro gaming is your thing, you should seriously consider picking up a Sega Dreamcast on Ebay. They can be had for practically nothing, and they'll read regular ol' CD-Rs with no modding necessary! Personally, I have the entire Atari 2600 collection on a single 8cm CD along with a port of Stella. Very cool. :) 'course, I also have a large collection of NES games burned and playable with NesterDC, and another with SMS games and an SMS Plus port (which is, BTW, the most beautiful emulator I've seen for the DC... an that's just the first release! I can't imagine how 0.2 is going to improve on it.). And, of course, there's emulators for a *ton* of other 8-bit or less consoles (the 16-bit generation is sorely lacking in decent emulators, with no Genesis emulator to speak of, and no full-speed SNES emulator), along with a number of MAME ports.

Guh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200930)

Am I the only one confused by the Slashdot synopsys?

It looks like random words strung together, my brain can't quite parse them together.

Whobee did whatee now?

Atari Flashback Owns (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200933)

I just bought myself the Atari Flashback for Christmas. Merry hours of Asteroids, Yar's Revenge, Breakout, and Centipede were had by all--including my 10 yr old brother.

Take that, you little snots!

Not My Kid (1)

Paul Burney (560340) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200939)

My 9-year-old daughter got one of those Namco 5-in-1 games from Santa this year (hooks up directly to the TV) and she thinks Pole Position rocks.

Santa's never given her a console to try though...

Re:Not My Kid (1)

tygerstripes (832644) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200952)

Not nearly as much as the cartoon series did though...

Remember the manic-depressive in-car computer? It was like having Marvin the Paranoid Android as a back-seat driver.

Re:Not My Kid (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201061)

My kid (then 8) was constantly bugging me to hook up my old NES to play Zelda, then SNES, then Genesis, then TG16..

I eventually bought him his own PC and hooked him up with a bunch of emulators, and I catch him playing Bonk or old Sonic titles as often, if not more, than I see him playing his GameCube.

Left alone to play them, many older games are fun. Hell, Monopoly is still fun. But you aren't going to impress anyone with 1980s technology.

Why would these kids not recognize SFII? It's been released for every console since the TG16/PCEngine, including GCN, PS2 and XBox.

can I now???? (-1, Flamebait)

msjumbu (763237) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200943)

Can I Masturbate now???

You youngsters with your colored graphics... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11200945)

When I was a kid we played Zork.

And we liked it.

That's no whippersnapper... (5, Funny)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200948)

> They should make a Matrix game in the theme of Star Wars. So then you take out your sword and run up to a guy and go, "Chiiing!"

...that's Raph Koster of SOE, responsible for SWG:A Galaxy of Melee Combat.

> And after you saw through his head, you fly inside your X-wing."

Oh, give up up, Raph. Nobody's playing SWG:Jump to Lightspeed either.

Fight! (1)

Line_Fault (247536) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200950)

Wow!
I can still remember how much time I spent playing Street Fighter II and all of the blister I got in the process!!

Get real (5, Insightful)

badmammajamma (171260) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200954)

Considering what they can do with graphics and sound today, does anyone actually expect these kids to be impressed by this stuff? It's like asking someone to use a pulse dial phone and think its rad. No, it sucks.

Don't get me wrong, I loved Galaga and all that shit but I certainly wouldn't expect kids to like it when they can play things like HL2, WoW, etc. The only thing I *might* hope the kids get out of it is an appreciation of where the current games evolved from and gaming history. That's it.

Quoth the article... (1)

slashdevslashtty (712925) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200967)

EGM: Before this came out in compilations, we used to put quarters in arcade machines. Parker: You wasted quarters on this? EGM: Yeah. Parker: That's so sad.

Yeah, so what (-1, Troll)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200972)

I'd like to see any of you sit through a silent film from the 20s or listen to old radio plays.

I know about 100 of you will respond and claim that you love silent films and have the worlds greatest collection of radio plays, and I say to you that you're full of shit.

Re:Yeah, so what (1)

night_flyer (453866) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201099)

my favorite movie is Metropolis, the 1929 film by Fritz Lang...

my radio collection consists of the Shadow, doc savage, the phanton, Dick Tracy, the CBS Radio Mystery theater, and Im Sorry Ill repeat that again, along with many others... say Im full of shit all you want but them are the facts.

Re:Yeah, so what (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11201100)

I'd like to see any of you listen to classical music.
I'd like to see any of you reading books over 50 years old.

'Old-Fashioned Games!' (4, Funny)

koganuts (526569) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200974)

Funny timing.

Last weekend I was at the Gameworks in Las Vegas, and was playing a Ms. Pac-Man machine that was next to a few other vintage arcade machines (Robotron, Centipede, Xevious, Missile Command) that were standing alongside a wall in an alcove.

Enter a group of kids.

One of them says, "Hey, look! Old-fashioned games!"

I couldn't help but utter a Homer Simpson-esque, "D'oh!" in response. :(

Atari (1)

dourk (60585) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200977)

I don't care what they say, Adventure was the shit. At least until Pitfall came out.

This does not bode well for the current generation (5, Interesting)

Jailbrekr (73837) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200978)

Back in the bronze and silver age of arcade games, we did not have the technology to create "realistic" games, so we made fun games where ones imagination was required. This level of abstraction made games fun and entertaining without the (argueably) negative societal consequences.

Today, kids engage in auto thefts, mass murder, and first person real time role playing where they can be anyone they choose to be (be it good or evil). There is no longer any need to exercise ones imagination, as that has been replaced by stunning graphics which is slowly approaching a level of realism which will make any differentiation between the real world and the arcade world difficult.

That is why there will always be a special place in my heart for the classics. They encouraged my sense of imagination. Todays games lack that.

Kids these days.. (2, Funny)

jagilbertvt (447707) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200982)

Everytime my son sees a game that I'm playing that he likes, and says "Can I play this when I get older" I say "sure, but the graphics will suck" Starting him off right, I tell ya :) (he's 5).

+5 Troll (1)

borg1238 (692335) | more than 9 years ago | (#11200990)

...on the source article.

What is this? (1, Funny)

bje2 (533276) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201009)

What is this? Dawson's Creek? 10-13 year olds don't talk like this in real life...

Nazis & Commies Oh My! (1)

Line_Fault (247536) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201014)

I can't beleive that someone that old doesn't know the difference between Natzis and Communism, or even what country represented them.

I remember taking Russian history in school 3 times, and WWI/WWII on top of that!

I shake my head in disbelief.

Flash version of Adventure... (1)

koganuts (526569) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201047)

If hearing those kids talk about Adventure makes you want to check out the game (again), you can play a Flash version of it right here [simmphonic.com] .

Bobby? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11201052)

Is Bobby just acting stupid or is he really retarded? The rest of the kids are okay but he just seems especially moronic. Then again, some of them want lots of blood, gore and weapons. Maybe we should all go back to Pong and a massive sack of quarters...

All the kids I know love old games (2, Interesting)

ccandreva (409807) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201057)

If these responses aren't fake, then it may just e the kids they picked. My experience has been the exact opposite, that kids will play a good game no matter what it looks like.

I have a collection of arcade games in my basement Asteroids, Centipede, Star Wars, Pole Position, Major Havoc, etc). http://www.westnet.com/~chris/arcade/MyBasement [westnet.com]

My kids (aged 2 and 4) love them. All the kids in my family, ranging up to 13 years old, won't come out of the basement at family gatherings. Pole Position seems to be popular with really little kids. Star Wars (one they specifically pan) is popular with just about everyone though.

Hmmm (1)

vDiver (62458) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201068)

I have a 12 year old son who loves video games. He started out playing Dark Forces sitting on my lap, back in the day.

He loves some of those old games. Perhaps not all, but I can't tell you how many times I've watched him play some of these games INSTEAD of PS2 or Gamecube current stuff. For him, graphics are pretty, but the gameplay is the real thing.

I can buy into the idea that these are 'real' quotes from these kids by the way... but not ALL they had to say - they just seem to have prompted and kept a few of the choice statements, imo.

Bwahahaha! (4, Funny)

st0rmshad0w (412661) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201069)

"EGM: Now imagine you've reached the 10th stage, and you're on your last life. Once you die and you put another quarter in, you don't just continue from there--you start all over.

Parker: Are you serious?

EGM: Yep. When you lose all your lives, you have to start over. You don't keep going.

Parker: And you guys back then were OK with this?"


Hehe, suck it punk, you with your continues and save points!

I remember slugging my way thru those classics like Defender and Galaga.

Imagine playing any new console game with nowhere to start but the beginning. Then we'd really see who had the skillz.

Hehe.

WHY I OUGHTA!! (2, Interesting)

comet69 (198367) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201096)

damn punk ass kids! classics are where its at...

thats why, whenever I have a kid, his first computer will be a C64... just like me.. he/she will learn to appreciate the true meaning of computers and technology by seeing how it evolves..

however, i do plan on being a very bitter old man simply because I will not remember, nor care what it was like to be young..

Showing my age at 26 (1)

lawpoop (604919) | more than 9 years ago | (#11201107)

A few months ago, I was at my grandpa's place, and my cousin's kid (age ~9) asked grandpa if he would turn on the 'old computer' so she could use it. She was referring to the typewriter.
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