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US Company Buys Commodore Brand For $33 Million

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the for-the-old-foggeys dept.

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inKubus writes "Tulip Computers International BV -- which has held the rights to Commodore since 1997 -- said Thursday it will sell the once-mighty Commodore computer brand to U.S.-based Yeahronimo Media Ventures Inc. for 24 million euros, or $33 million. A company spokesman said they would "take actions" against possible copyright infringements of the Commodore name in the United States as well as release a new MP3 player and rerelease classic games."

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410 comments

uh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221392)

why? its kind of a waste.

Re:uh? (1)

D'Sphitz (699604) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221436)

yeah, and I don't see how Commodore is worth $33 million, maybe i'm missing something ...

After all... (5, Funny)

nharmon (97591) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221394)

There is a major problem with people swapping tape cartridges full of programs. Somebody needs to fight these pirates.

Re:After all... (2, Funny)

aeroelastic (840614) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221447)

Yeah, and maybe the RIAA will come after me for the midi recording of "Hungry Like the Wolf" I have on a 5" floppy for my C64.

Re:After all... (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221453)

There is a major problem with people swapping tape cartridges full of programs. Somebody needs to fight these pirates.

Good thing I got rid of all those 5.25" floppies, years ago ... well most of them anyway, but they won't find them under all the bodies.

Re:After all... (3, Funny)

Attar81 (574867) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221602)

All you need is the secret password: Load"*",8,1

Re:After all... (4, Insightful)

nocomment (239368) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221621)

Actually I think the business plan goes something like this...

1>notice people making joysticks with built-in games that play commodore games
2>buy commodore name to sue those companies
3>...
4>profit!

Once that plan is complete maybe they will buy Amiga.

There goes (3, Insightful)

temojen (678985) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221397)

Another Canadian icon to the US attack-lawyers.

There goes-Self-wounding. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221544)

"Another Canadian icon to the US attack-lawyers."

Uh huh. I can just see how they brutally savaged Corel.

Re:There goes (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221604)

The average Canadian is just too busy dogsledding to worry about the integrity of his company.

Sincerely,
Tucker Carlson
CNN

Re:There goes (1)

fenix down (206580) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221688)

+10 wearing clown bow-ties increases your journalistic integrity

GNAA UBER ALLES! (0, Offtopic)

Staos (700036) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221402)

In Indonesia, a tsunami buys the Commodore brand for $33 million!

Let Me Get This Straight... (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221404)

Let me get this straight...

A group of investors actually wants the name associated with a company whose business strategy was best summed up as:

Ready

Fire!

Aim

Re:Let Me Get This Straight... (1)

EnderWiggnz (39214) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221490)

yeh - why would anyone want to be associated with the single-best-selling computer system, ever?

they had a damn good business strategy, amazing engineers, good products.

just an effing corrupt CEO.

Re:Let Me Get This Straight... (2, Interesting)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221564)

they had a damn good business strategy,

I take it you never saw the Superbowl commercial for the Amiga.

It was traumatic for those of us who were trying to get other to buy into it. I've still got my A2000 right here. Excellent product, but the marketing was horrendously inept.

Re:Let Me Get This Straight... (1)

someonewhois (808065) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221543)

Wow, never thought of it that way. It reminds me of the Canadian Military now that you mention it!

Re:Let Me Get This Straight... (2, Funny)

hunterx11 (778171) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221591)

No, the Canadian military plan is:
  • Ready
  • Aim
  • Ask your target politely if you may fire on him

Re:Let Me Get This Straight... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221656)

No, the Canadian military plan is:

Make others think you have no real army , it work for satan and the aliens , and it worked so far for us.

Canada as the only army wich as never lost a war.

This is one of the reasons... (5, Interesting)

slakdrgn (531347) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221406)

...abandonware isn't really abandonware. Now, I'm wondering if they bought the name just so they could make money out of lawsuits. If they do, and it works, I wonder how many other companies will attempt to by rights to long and outdated software just to attempt to raise their bottom line by sueing everyone.

Re:This is one of the reasons... (2, Funny)

GoofyBoy (44399) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221452)

33 million from lawsuits?

I doubt that they are going to get that much from college kids.

Re:This is one of the reasons... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221530)

pfft. college kids. Commodore was last useful in about 1988. They'll have to hunt down the elderly.

There's an 'in korea only old people...' line in there somewhere.

Re:33 million from lawsuits: SCO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221582)

Tell SCO, who are still chugging away on nothing more than threats of lawsuits. Laws are made by lawyers, for lawyers.

This is one of the reasons...Outdated. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221483)

"If they do, and it works, I wonder how many other companies will attempt to by rights to long and outdated software just to attempt to raise their bottom line by sueing everyone."

OK, so why's the software "outdated"? And isn't getting upset over the whole thing like getting upset over the design plans for the Edsel, or Yugo possibly being unavailable?

Re:This is one of the reasons...Outdated. (1)

slakdrgn (531347) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221611)

I'm not getting upset over the whole thing, infact, I think, if done right, it could be a good thing.

I'm just wondering, if they do go that way, what the overall outcome would be. I find it more interesting than upsetting.

Re:This is one of the reasons... (2, Interesting)

DeVilla (4563) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221641)

Now, I'm wondering if they bought the name just so they could make money out of lawsuits. If they do, and it works, I wonder how many other companies will attempt to by rights to long and outdated software just to attempt to raise their bottom line by sueing everyone.

Hey! Don't knock it. I mean, look what's it's done for SCO, and they don't even have a case or own the copyrights in question. These guys will at least have the pretense of a broken leg to stand on.

And that's why I'm buying rights to the Odyssey!!! (1)

Picass0 (147474) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221655)

I should be able to make a few bucks from all these infringers of "The Quest for the Rings"!

Re:This is one of the reasons... (4, Interesting)

Schnapple (262314) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221674)

Thing is, when people pine for the Commodore 64 they're either nostalgic over the ancient implementations of things like word processors or databases, or nostalgic over games.

No one is still insisting that Paperclip was better than Microsoft Word or OpenOffice.org Write (though I'm sure a few will as soon as I hit "submit"), so apps are out.

As for games, people still love old C64 games. That Joystick on QVC with the games on it is selling enough to have its own hacking community and people are still psycho about games like M.U.L.E. (my Wife wants me to get one of those joysticks and hack Caveman Ughlympics on it - I'd prefer Fort Apocalypse myself).

Thing is, Commodore themselves didn't write many games. M.U.L.E. was Electronic Arts of all things, Fort Apocalypse was Synapse Software (long dead of course).

Just buying out the "Commodore" name won't allow them to sue abandonware sites. There *might* be something they can do to emulator authors, but that's doubtful.

They bought the "Commodore" name since it's still a powerful brand in people's minds. They'll see Commodore MP3 players and Commodore 64 joysticks in stores and think "wow, Commodore is still around..." Look at the sheer number of people who think Atari is the same company with the same people. Heck, when I was working at Babbage's in 1999 when Hasbro had the new games under the Atari name (Windows CD-ROM's) I had people come up to me and ask if they "needed their old Atari" to play these games.

Yet another one... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221409)

that buy's a company to go out and sue people using there name....

Re:Yet another one... (1)

Perl-Pusher (555592) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221619)

First to get sued "The Commodores" Lionel Ritchie.

Finally (2, Funny)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221411)

some true innovation!

Wow, (4, Interesting)

Megaweapon (25185) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221416)

a 6502-based MP3 player! (Or is that 6210?) Whichever, the "Commodore name" to most people isn't a modern-centric concept. It's a historical relic (an important one, sure, but has no basis in modern computing).

Re:Wow, (1)

mr_angry (668532) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221539)

It was the 6510. I don't know what the differences are with a regular 6502.

Re:Wow, (1)

david duncan scott (206421) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221643)

Onboard serial port on the '10, which the 64 used for something or other (light pen input, maybe?)

It's dead, Jim. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221418)

"A company spokesman said they would "take actions" against possible copyright infringements of the Commodore name in the United States as well as release a new MP3 player and rerelease classic games."

Seriously. Is Commodore really still popular?

Isn't infringing on them, like infringing on a dead body?

Re:It's dead, Jim. (2, Insightful)

malfunct (120790) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221455)

Sounds fun, combating copyright infringement by releasing a device that will most likely play material that was obtained by infringing copyright :)

Re:It's dead, Jim. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221570)

Isn't infringing on them, like infringing on a dead body?>

To the best of my understanding, infringing on a dead body is a serious crime.

Re:It's dead, Jim. (1)

Zathras11 (628385) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221573)

Like most dead bodies, this one has a relative.

Unlike most dead bodies, this one's relative has
WAY more than $33 million dollars and a whole
fleet of lawyers...

Yeahronimo! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221419)

Yeahronimo Media Ventures. Yes, this sounds like a reputable company. Seriously.

Re:Yeahronimo! (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221488)

Yeahronimo Media Ventures. Yes, this sounds like a reputable company. Seriously.

It was all they could get... names already taken were:

Geronimo

Jironimo

Ghironimo

Geeronimo

Goshronimo
and

Gollyronimo

Oh cool. (4, Insightful)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221420)

rerelease classic games."

I wonder if this means we'll get C64 games on those little joystick-that-plugs-into-the-tv things that are so popular nowadays.

Re:Oh cool. (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221474)

I wonder if this means we'll get C64 games on those little joystick-that-plugs-into-the-tv things that are so popular nowadays.

They just did that a couple of weeks back. You search Slashdot for it; I'm too lazy :)

Personally, I want an Atari 800/XL/XE version, preferably hackable (and certainly the 'real thing' from an end-user POV, none of that rewritten nonsense that the Intellivision device got slagged off for).

Re:Oh cool. (1)

fr2asbury (462941) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221526)

I wasn't [slashdot.org]

But searching for it meant I wasn't the first to reply. :-(

There are other stories related to this device that the original poster can search for though.

Re:Oh cool. (4, Informative)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221493)

That Jeri Ellsworth chick is already selling exactly such a device through the home shopping channel. It's got Impossible Mission and Summer Games and other old chestnuts built in, and looks quite hackable too.

It was on slashdot a couple weeks ago.

More likely, this Yeahanomorinono Media Venture Concern (is that REALLY a US company?!) will sue her ass into a hole.

Anyone know whats up with her or Commodore One? Is she using the Commodore name legally?

Too bad this company has no vision. To hell with mp3 players and re-selling old games, I'd love to see them update the Amiga, a la the G4 Mac and OS/X.

That I'd pay for.

Re:Oh cool. (1)

Jarlsberg (643324) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221625)

They won't touch the Amiga. That's a separate brand under a separate ownership. And OS4 is still "coming"... :)

Re:Oh cool. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221681)

Coming? It's not even breathing hard.

Re:Oh cool. (2, Insightful)

Average_Joe_Sixpack (534373) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221661)

That Jeri Ellsworth chick is already selling exactly such a device through the home shopping channel

From an earlier interview I believe she only acted as a consultant to the company that actually produces the device, so she should be rather safe from that perspective. The company that produces the device plus anybody using that Commodore name for profit will be sued into oblivion.

Re:Oh cool. (1)

Unoti (731964) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221518)

That already exists actually. Just as likely, this means that'll get sued out of existence!

Re:Oh cool. (2, Interesting)

eyeball (17206) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221563)

I wonder if this means we'll get C64 games on those little joystick-that-plugs-into-the-tv things that are so popular nowadays.

So here's what they're going to do -- sue as many of those small-time chinese c64 joystick manufacturers and sellers, online emulators, rom sites, etc.. then make their own just in time for the fad to be well over (I predict next xmas).

Re:Oh cool. (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221606)

No matter what it means my two favourite games from back then were busted for copyright infringement (of Super Mario Bros. and R-Type, respectively, can you guess the names?) anyway so the chance of them appearing on any recent collection is slim.

Re:Oh cool. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221653)

Can you say "Crush, Crumble, and Chomp"?

So... (5, Insightful)

Stick_Fig (740331) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221422)

How much you want to bet that this corporation will pretty much do nothing but get pissy towards a bunch of emulator/C64-on-a-chip authors and not actually do anything with the company's legacy?

I mean, really, it's pretty much been empty promises since about 1992 from the Commodore/Amiga crowd, and the Commodore kicked the bucket.

oh goody (5, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221423)

A company whose primary product seems (from their website) to be a DRM scheme is buying the commodore brand - remember, this is the company that gave out schematics with their computers. Doesn't sound like it makes sense to me. The only people who care about C= are geeks who will know better...

Re:oh goody (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221538)

The only people who care about C= are geeks who will know better...

Gee, didn't we just have an article about a joystick with about 30 games in it? Maybe they're thinking along the same lines. Get a bunch of the abandonware and buy cheep some of the titles which companies like EA might still be clinging to and re-market. Heck, many of us know the best games ever were back in the hey-day of the C64, everything else is pretty much the same with window dressing.

Re:SID and Patent Laws (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221663)

from http://www.emulationstation.com/systemlist.asp "The Commodore 64's sound is what really set it apart from other computers of the time. The system featured a Sound Interface Device called SID. The SID was a synthesizer chip capable of producing a wide variety of unique music and sound effects. It handled the sound output by itself, freeing up the CPU for other duties. The SID was the first dedicated sound chip to be used in a home computer." The settlements from patent infringement on this could be sizeable.

It should be interesting to see... (3, Funny)

Kobun (668169) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221426)

Perhaps they could release a kit commodore as well, it has been a long time since beginners to computing could sit down and build their own computer from the chips up. Be a great learning tool to see again... Or, I could take the 6502 and finish work that bending robot in the garage...

Re:It should be interesting to see... (1)

Sxooter (29722) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221580)

I've got an old empathy chip if you need one!

What? Game news?? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221435)

You won't see this on techtv, despite the fact that they are now a gaming channel. Why? They're reruns 23 hours a day now! And the screen savers is now a comedy show with no actual content.

Re:What? Game news?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221699)

Personally I think Sarah is on coke now.

That is to say... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221438)

...the 'Commodore Digital Media Player' _and its subscription service_, according to http://www.yeahronimo.com/corporate/

This is good news (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221441)

I would really like to see a fully licensed Amiga 500/1000 emulator and for all the programs to be released in bundles.

I can't imagine what the brand would have to do with me wanting to purchase an Mp3 player though. I suppose for some it might give some credibility to a product, but most Mp3 purchasers either look at the specs or are the types that are influenced by media and will not even have any exposure (in the US) to the brand.

Re:This is good news (1)

starbird (409793) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221654)

There is an officially liscenced amiga emulator package. For $30 you get a suite of emulators, a bunch of apps, and the AOS 1.3 and 3.1 roms.

You can get it from http://amigaforever.com/ [amigaforever.com] .

Commodore is dead (2, Insightful)

CharAznable (702598) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221444)

Branding is such a scam... Like putting the name Commodore on any crap box is going to make it magically like a C64 or an Amiga.. People are not that stupid... Same goes for Napster. The old Napster is gone, forever. Using the name won't make it anything like the real thing.

Re:Commodore is dead (1)

aeroelastic (840614) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221475)

I don't know about that, when I go to a game store and see a new game branded "Atari" it catches my attention. Besides, who has ever heard of "Yeahronimo Media Ventures"? Sounds pretty shady to me.

Re:Commodore is dead (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221584)

Car manufacturers do it all the time. Classic nameplates on new vehicles that have nothing in common with the originals.

Chevrolet Impala [chevrolet.com]
Dodge Charger [caranddriver.com]
Hummer H2 [gmcanada.com]
Hummer H3 [canadiandriver.com]

Talking of the Amiga, WTF is that all about...?! (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221652)

Branding is such a scam... Like putting the name Commodore on any crap box is going to make it magically like a C64 or an Amiga..

Which begs the question; WTF is happening with the Amiga legacy at the moment?

I stopped following Amiga developments circa 1995, when the new Amiga owners wanted to re-release the ageing A1200 for 100 pounds *more* than it had been selling for when C= went bankrupt. (Even then I knew the difference between trying to get the Amiga back into the mainstream, and squeezing the last drops of cash from the fanbase).

From thereon, it seems the story gets very complicated, as the Amiga OS and hardware rights got sold off, split up, sold off again, and...

Okay; back to what you said. What the *hell* does Amiga anywhere [amiga-anywhere.com] (seemingly a built-on-Java ME games environment, or something) have to do with the Amiga?!

Quite frankly, it seems to me that people *will* buy because of the name; or at least some Amiga fans will (is this trying to con the hardcore, or going for the Amiga nostalgia market?).

Another thing; what on earth is happening with Amiga OS 4.0? Version 3.0 came out in the early 1990s, version 4.0 has been gone on about for *ages*. I don't see how it can have any relevance now; things have changed too much in the intervening years, and it seems to be used to string die-hard Amiga fanatics along.

BTW, I agree with you about Napster. It's just another paid service that happens to have the rights to that name, but the way it was reported in the news was some kind of corporate rebirth. Annoying...

Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221449)

You can tell this is just another company that bought the name so they can go around making $$$ suing people.

The company who purchased the name is probably just a group of MBAs and lawyers - I bet there is not a single techie there. Any acutal product they sell will likely just be re-branded Chinese goods.

8 bit games (1)

leoval (827218) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221454)

The market for retro video games must be really big right now. I have seen those little atari /arcade /namco controllers that plug on the TV to play our all time favorite 8 bit video games popping out on every single toy store.

The question here is, how the emulation scene will be affected and more important when will the ready-for-TV-ZX Spectrum arrive.

What's your opinion on the brand ? (1)

mr_angry (668532) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221459)

I know many people remember the commodore brand, but what kind of opinion people have on the brand ? An old computer brand that went bankrupt ? Is it worth that much money ?

I still love the old commodore computers but i doubt this is the general opinion about the brand.

I still don't fully understand why infogrames revived the Atari brand since everyone constantly said that Atari sucked when Nintendo came on the gaming scene...

Now is the time for me to start the new coleco brand. I'll bring out exciting products such as plastic pools and overpriced dolls.

Going after infringers... (2, Insightful)

chiefnerd (823986) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221461)

Commodore rocked back in the day. However, about this new company declaring it will "go after" infringers: the only reason anyone still knows about the Commodore brand is because of the dedication of those who could be considered infringers on the name. Great tactic - use the community to keep a brand name from totally dying out, then turn around and unleash the legal dogs on the very ones who kept it viable. Whatever...

Is this a U.S. company (3, Informative)

sellers (89043) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221478)

Is this really a US company ? Looks like a EU company or did I miss something ?

Sports & Events
E-mail: info@yeahronimo.com

Yeahronimo Media Ventures Inc.
Ms. Roxanne Pons
Public Relations
Tel: +31 35 543 05 07
E-mail: press@yeahronimo.com

Company Address Europe (Operational Offices)
Hermesweg 15
3741 GP BAARN
The Netherlands

Company Address USA
Yeahronimo Media Ventures Inc
433 N. Camden Dr., Suite 600
Beverly Hills, Ca. 90210 USA
Phone: +1 213 379 0540
Fax: +1 310 362 8608

Re:Is this a U.S. company (1)

jonbryce (703250) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221614)

If it was a Dutch company, it would be Yeahronimo Media Ventures NV, not Yeahronimo Media Ventures Inc.

I would have sold it to them for $33 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221479)

:-) 33 Million for a company name that has been dead for 20 years.

More like Pirates! (1)

xtermin8 (719661) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221480)

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/games/pirates.ars It may be too much to hope for, but if they would release versions of the old games with improved graphics, I'd buy their stuff.

What's the point? I mean really? (1)

i_want_you_to_throw_ (559379) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221502)

As a former Commodore user (only got rid of my Amiga about a year ago) one really has to wonder what the point is?

New Amigas? Kinda late for that don'tcha think?

A shell for nothing but endless litigation? Maybe Darl can get a job there after SCO's shareholders call for his head. Even then sounds like Tulip pulled a coup actually getting a sucker to spend more than 2 cents for the name.

Commodore is dead. They had sushi in the Amiga and they sold it as fish

True Value (4, Insightful)

Luminous (192747) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221503)

Would the Commodore name have that value today if it wasn't for all the C-64/Amiga User Groups that kept the legacy alive for all these years? These are the same people that will get sued first, I'm willing to bet.

MP3 Player (1)

tyleroar (614054) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221509)

Why would you want to release an MP3 Player under the Commodore brand name? Was/is the Commodore really that popular of a brand name? Is it even popular at all among the crowd that would buy an MP3 Player?

Re:MP3 Player (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221626)

Yes, the Commodore 64 is still the best-selling personal computer in history (it's in Guinness), and Commodore invented multi-media (and coined the phrase multi-media) with the Amiga.

In fact, every time some slashbot gushes about something Apple is doing, a part of me can't help thinking "Commodore wanna-bes".

The name still carries some weight, and a fair bit of geek cred.

I want my MP3 player to have a SID chip in it, so I can play back all those old SIDplayer files.

Re:MP3 Player (1)

tyleroar (614054) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221666)

But how many true geeks that really remember the Commodore 64 are going to be buying new Mp3 players? I would think an overwhelming majority of people buying MP3 Players are in the late teens early twenties and haven't heard of Commodore.

Re:MP3 Player (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221660)

I would buy it, if it were exactly styled like a 1984 commodore 64, with the logo and everything. And it included like 100 games, with the EA, Broderbund, Capcom, and all the classics with a nice little tft screen.
Yeah, that would be cool. Probably cooler would be an Amiga 1000 design with the same setup.

media distributers, to amiga set-tops? (1)

jdog44 (318845) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221510)

Looks like they want to own content and push it to their own playback devices.

from their site:

Below, they reference their own media player (and compare it to the iPod), but the but the bulk of the wording talks about secure transmission and ownership of the entire chain....

maybe they're looking at all the failed set-top box starts that Commodore did with the Amiga chipset, I wonder how far along their player *really* is or if that is why they bought Commodore....

Re:media distributers, to amiga set-tops? (1)

jdog44 (318845) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221536)

doh,

my quoting refs got stripped by the slashcode.

quote one:
YMV makes it possible for customers quickly to find, whenever they want, their own favorite high-quality music, ring and real tones in any genre or from any record label to any device. In addition, YMV offers to these customers available high-quality visual entertainment from the media en entertainment industries, and allows them to not only to store and play the items of their choice on their own computer and/or portable digital media devices but also legally transfer them to portable multi-media players. All of this while offering security and flexibility in terms of payment methods.

quote 2:
As for our digital Multimedia Player/Viewer which is about to be launched, .....

Imagine the leet speak (2, Interesting)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221512)

If people with C64s could play MMOGS, those special characters would be making some wacked out letterings.

And one of the funniest things to do on a c64 is make it acid trip. You do this: Randomize(some int), get 2 random numbers, poke one number into the other's address, loop it. So its one crazy poke fest. I've seen the screen split into 4 pieces change colors and scroll wildly. Its funny because your computer goes nuts. You can't do it on a PC because it might erase your harddrive or something serious. But C64 were like a sandbox who's OS wasn't succeptible to viruses or permanent damage.

Re:Imagine the leet speak (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221583)

That sounds awesomely fun. I'll have to try it at some point.

I checked out your webpage and I see this:

"Answer: There are probably more answers than I can come up with, but what I would ascertain is this: Noah didn't collect every animal on the earth, since he is only man and couldn't cross the Atlantic Ocean. God flooded the entire earth. When Noah returned, God recreated the animal species that died off in North America. This is just a postulation."

Arguments like this strike me as being far too complicated. The simpler explanation, IMO, is that the great flood was localized and animals in North America simply weren't affected by it.

Re:Imagine the leet speak (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221589)

Kick it up a notch: Start making random SYS calls.

not US based (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221531)

Yeahronimo is not "a US based company", it's Dutch company. According to their web site, they are the first company to offer legal music download services in the Netherlands.

Looks like the only thing they are interested in is making money with other people's creations, and sue the crap out of anyone who uses those creations without paying them money.

TRADEMARK, not copyright (5, Insightful)

shimbee (444430) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221542)

Names can't be copyrighted...they'd be taking action against uses of the name under TRADEMARK law.

There are a couple of issues they might run into:

1) continuous use -- has the trademark been in continuous use over the years? They can't just abandon it and pick it back up

2) passing off - if no one else is "passing themselves off" as the Commodore computer company, they probably don't have an action.

overall, if their investment plan is litigation, i think they are in a craptacular situation

Is this about the C64 on a joystick.... (1)

djplurvert (737910) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221558)

...that QVC is selling? I remember reading in the artical on Slashdot about the "hot" girl who developed the design for that product that there was some question about licensing.

In other words, I doubt there is much money in going after people writing C64 emulators, but there might be in chasing the company supplying QVC, or even QVC.

Just curious and hoping some more knowledgele people will add real information to this.

I love their company page/mission statement (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221562)

Yeahronimo's CLEAR Vision

* Create new revenue streams
* Leverage existing archives and libraries of content
* Establish new customers
* Achieve greater market share
* Reduce distribution costs


What could be clearer!

Our mission statement: make money raping your childhood memories.

Sigh. I wish they'd clone Jack Trameil so he could revive Commodore the way Jobs revived Apple.

for the perfectionists... (1)

LiquidMind (150126) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221574)

24 million euros * 1.36 (US dollar rate [yahoo.com] ) = $32.64 million

yea, it's only off by ~1%, but still...36K is a lotta money to just be rounded off

Marvelous. (1)

sc0ttyb (833038) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221587)

I wonder how long it'll take them to sue all the emulator writers, both entire machine and SID players? Will they take action against folks who enjoy the offerings of the HVSC [c64.org] and game archives [c64.com] ?

I just can't wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221610)

to buy a legal copy of the Blue Meanies from Outer Space. The best game EVER on my VIC-20. Oh yeah... :)

Re:I just can't wait (3, Funny)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221670)

Better than GORF, Radar Rat Race, or Lock N Chase?

How dare you.

I remember when a bunch of my friends had Vic 20s, and I wished I had one.

Then for christmas, lo and behold, there's what looks like a Vic 20! Hooray, I rushed over, red-cheeked with excitement. Commodore 64?! What the fuck is that! I had one from the very first shipment to Canada. There was nowhere to get software for it in my area.

I was bummed, and all my friends mocked my useless PC.. Until a few months later my old man took me to the World of Commodore show, where I picked up a Choplifter! cartridge. Then it was: "WHOS LAUGHING NOW, BITCHES!".

I swear I had like 20 kids coming to my house at a time to play it. It just blew away anything we'd seen before, back in the age of Atari's and Colecos.

Yes!!! (2, Funny)

SmokeHalo (783772) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221634)

Soon I'll be able to clean up by selling my stash of 5.25" floppies! Sweet!

Knowing that something like this... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221637)

...was going to happen, this is precisely why I ftp downloaded the net's largest archive of C=64 games a few months back. I'd post a link, but the last thing that this company needs is a target for their money-hungry ways.

Commodore Brand Heating Units (1)

Luminous (192747) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221644)

This could be a real market potential... turning those power supplies into home heating units.

Something or another... (1)

aLe-ph-1(sh) (813349) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221664)

You know I always thought that things like commodore and mamiga shoulda been retransported to the solid realm again, the replay action is super. Tell another japanese element pixel drawn ga-ga go-go girl. Slam it thtoh another flick. Ok. Res-Trans The amiga had a lot of possibilities thaqt have only been relaised in the bedrooms of dreamers. Same for so many smaller and lesser known fruits... The OS you study mate, it's in there.

The most importaint id (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221667)

What will happen to the Open Source Emulator VICE [viceteam.org] ? Everyone should download the latest version along with the source in the event they get a Cease and Desist letter.

The most importaint question is (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#11221696)

Damn Slashdot for forcing me to post before previewing. ;)

33 million? (1)

smug_lisp_weenie (824771) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221672)

...if you create a MP3 player named "Commodore" instead of "rf32erf" or whatever, it isn't going to sell much more under the name "Commodore"- There is nothing about the "Commodore" brand name that would make the guy/gal on the street think it can make a good MP3 player, the way the "Apple" brand name did.

...the "classic Commodore" game business is pretty worthless, too: Can you name one IN-HOUSE Commodore game? Do you think "Aunt Tilley" can when she's looking for Christmas presents for her nephews? All the good games were written by EA or somesuch and not by Commodore directly.

Commodore is so out of style (1)

arodland (127775) | more than 8 years ago | (#11221683)

The real money is in Rear Admiral (lower half) Computers.
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