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Vioxx Replaces Porn as Spam King

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the isn't-that-exciting dept.

Spam 200

An anonymous reader noted that CNN is running a story crowning vioxx the new king of spam, upsetting poor old fashioned pornography. Of course, for me all my spam seems to be about rolexes.

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GAY POST (-1, Troll)

Sexual Asspussy (453406) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222335)

Re:GAY POST (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222579)

Gay post.
Slashdot

Sounds redundant to me.

Same old spam (4, Funny)

teiresias (101481) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222337)

vioxx. pr0n. same thing. it's all about relieving a pain in your muscles.

course if you have pain in your muscles from pr0n you're uhhh doing it wrong.

Re:Same old spam (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222359)

if you have pain in your muscles from pr0n you're uhhh doing it wrong.
The result of that is far from doing it wrong =)

HAHAHA LOL YOU RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT (0, Flamebait)

Sexual Asspussy (453406) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222370)

you fucking cocktwirling dolt, that post was worth nothing. I laugh at you, and it. eat a bag of shit and shoot yourself in the head.

Only on Slashdot... (5, Funny)

Ghostgate (800445) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222425)

... could the first post get modded redundant.

Only on Slashdot... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222524)

... could an AOL-n00b moronic offtopic post get modded informative...

Re:Only on Slashdot... (1)

mtrisk (770081) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222526)

I think the mods were confirming his point: Vioxx and Porn is redundant spam...

=]

Re:Same old spam (1)

KinkifyTheNation (823618) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222436)

Oh yeah, almost there baby. Now...

Beat me with this club!

Ask Slashdot: how to deal with LVPD? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222507)

Ok, so I'm flying over there for a week of fun in Las Vegas. I'm not going to beat around the bush, but I'm saying it straight: I'm going to be drunk and stoned every night. I'm not going to start any trouble. I'm just going to be seriously messed up most of the time.

Now, my question concerns the LVPD. I know perfectly well how to deal with our coppers, but how do you deal with the officers in Las Vegas? For instance, if I ever run into them, should I address them as "Sirs" or will that only piss them off? Should I be extremely submissive, or can I make a few jokes, for instance?

Why, you ask? (4, Interesting)

exhilaration (587191) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222351)

If you're wondering why people would still want Vioxx, it's only dangerous if you a pre-existing cardiac condition. So if you're a healthy 20-something with a bad knee, you're probably really pissed that Vioxx got taken off the market.

Re:Why, you ask? (1)

MEGAMAID (791988) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222380)

"a healthy 20-something"

few of the slashdot crowd, including me. But that knee I can relate to.

Vioxx (2, Interesting)

bsd4me (759597) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222393)

There are also some people who only get pain relief with Vioxx; ``equivalent'' drugs don't seem to work.

Re:Why, you ask? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222394)

Most pain syndromes are psychosomatic [harvard.edu]

Vioxx is a useless drug in most cases just like all other NSAID's.

Re:Why, you ask? (3, Interesting)

Desert Raven (52125) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222584)

Ah yes, read one article, and suddenly an expert is born. And some other person, who probably didn't read the article, modded it as interesting.

Yes, in many cases, pain relievers are not necessary, the pain can be relieved through other means. However, this does not make the drug "useless", nor does it actually have any bearing on whether it works or not. Remember that in trials, these drugs are most often compared against placebos, and had better results. So the truth is, they do work.

And speaking as someone who lives with a person who is in pain 24/7 from degenerative arthritis, I'm glad they're out there. The problems with Vioxx are very unfortunate. It filled a need for a non-narcotic painkiller that was not so harsh on the GI tract. Hopefully, someone will figure out how to develop a version without the cardiac effects.

Re:Why, you ask? (4, Insightful)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222450)

> If you're wondering why people would still want Vioxx, it's only dangerous if you a pre-existing cardiac condition. So if you're a healthy 20-something with a bad knee, you're probably really pissed that Vioxx got taken off the market.

Who cares. All I want to see is spammers being sued into oblivion by the surviving relatives 80-year-olds with heart conditions click "buy" and subsequently kick off.

We've got enough law enforcement resources to go after 12-year olds who download Titney's Pears albums. Why the fuck can't we have someone go after these "pharmacies" who dispense prescription medications without a license?

The laws against illegal dispensation of prescription medicine aren't unenforceable like the War On Drugs Paid For By Handing Cash To That Dude On The Corner. These are non-anonymous transactions performed with credit cards and shipped by non-anonymous shippers, and often shipped across national borders over which law enforcement has a legal right to inspect packages for contraband.

Re:Why, you ask? (1)

nfgaida (68606) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222528)

It's all about who has the bigger lobby. The *AA or the relatives of 80-year-olds who have kicked off.

Why buy it at all? (2, Interesting)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222529)

Who in their right mind would even *consider* buying drugs from a (probably fraudulent) source on the Internet? I can see why people in Third-World countries with no access to normal healthcare might, but they don't appear to be the target market.

Re:Why, you ask? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222569)

Vioxx is a nasty drug. I took it for a while. Yes, it was extremely effective, but after 1,5 months I suddenly experienced sharp pangs of pain (this was while Vioxx was killing every sign of the original pain) so I was very worried and stopped taking the pills right away. When the effect of the pills wore off so did the sharp pain. After a couple of days it felt like I was coming back out from a coma. I could literally not remember anything from the last 1,5 month. I suddenly had a LOT of reading to do. While taking the pills I thought I was just tired and had too little energy, but once I stopped.. man. What a difference. Vioxx is dangerous AND scary.

Re:Why, you ask? (1)

extra the woos (601736) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222808)

If you were in pain why would you want some worthless expensive drug that only works for a couple things. One that's been proven to cause health problems!!! Just get vicodin it's like $10 a bottle with a prescription and the only thing bad for you in it is tylenol, hydrocodone is non-toxic.. so just don't drink.

But they asked AOL!!!! (4, Insightful)

thewldisntenuff (778302) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222357)

There were plenty of other people to ask (SpamHaus, maybe the people behind SpamAssassin), but they ask an in-company division for their information on spam. Yes, spam is going down on AOL (as noted in a recent /. story), but couldnt they have asked others along with the numbers from AOL?

Rant aside, Im suprised it was Vioxx prescriptions - most of the ones I get are for improving my sex life....Vioxx was just named deadly by somebody, wasnt it?

-thewldisntenuff

Re:But they asked AOL!!!! (1)

PurpleFloyd (149812) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222511)

Regarding Vioxx...
It was never named "deadly," but it has been taken off the market recently by its manufacturer, Merck. Apparently, certain side effects potentially harmful to people with heart condidtions were overlooked during testing; the FDA got quite angry about this and would probably have demanded a recall if Merck didn't do it voluntarily.

Of course, there are many people for whom Vioxx worked quite well who have no heart problems; it's not surprising that spammers would step into a major potential market for "Vioxx" made from sugar pills. Also, I've seen a few law firms send out spams offering to represent me in the class action against Merck. Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised to also see people investing in the lawsuit by buying out others' share of the class; in this way, they could get in on the lawsuit despite never having Vioxx pass their lips.

I find it interesting that they single out Vioxx as the number one prescription spam, though. For what it's worth, all the drug spam I get offers not only for \/10XX but also cia1is, |_e\/1TRA, \/1C0D1N and of course the indomitable \/1A6RA. While the specific category of Vioxx spam may have just won out over porn spam, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that drug spam has been bigger than porn for a long time.

Re:But they asked AOL!!!! (4, Funny)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222517)

little do the spammers know that in order to improve it, you need to have a sex life in the first place!

Thank God for Vioxx spam (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222358)

You're going to need Vioxx for your wrist after pressing Delete 9,000 times!

Hmm (1)

GasKewled (844168) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222360)

Sure miss those days of 'Hot Lesbian Action' tho :/

Yeah, (1)

temojen (678985) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222455)

And I've stopped receiving spam for a satelite TV shop in Soeul, but I still receive 2
I apologize if the contents hereunder are contrary to your moral ethics. But please treat with absolute secrecy and personal. I am an employee of a commercial bank...
every day.

actually read spam? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222361)

There may be more vioxx spam than porn spam.. but which of it is CLICKED MORE? eh? EH?

Fucking Lawyers. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222364)

Kill em all and the world would be a better place.

Vioxxis a temporary circumstance ... (4, Funny)

stuffduff (681819) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222365)

Vioxx is a temporary circumstance ... while pr0n is a permeant condition. It's like the difference between "Out for lunch" and "Out to Lunch."

Spam for Babyboomers (4, Insightful)

Ossus_10 (844890) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222367)

Sounds like the spam companies are targeting the baby boomer generation with Arthritis pills. This also happens to be an age group that would be less sucessful at knowing how to stop spam. Ossus

Re:Spam for Babyboomers (1)

L.Bob.Rife (844620) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222552)

Con artists and salesmen have recognized this for years. Target the elderly. They usually have some amount of money saved up, and are more likely to be tricked.

vioXXX (1, Interesting)

OffTheLip (636691) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222374)

Seems most of mine is a tad different...

Vioxx topples porn as spam king? (4, Informative)

tyleroar (614054) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222376)

Actually what the article says is that Vioox prescriptions, ID theft scams, and stock pick information toople porn as spam king. And this is only talking about the spam received by AOL users, not all spam in general.

Re:Vioxx topples porn as spam king? (1)

saintp (595331) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222422)

You must be new here. Of all the people on /., the last ones you should expect to RTFM are the editors.

Re:Vioxx topples porn as spam king? (2, Funny)

sharkey (16670) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222430)

toople porn

Sounds nasty.

Your sig (2, Funny)

rainman_bc (735332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222620)

I find it ironic that you of all people have anything to say about spam when your sig is one of the spams I receive the most of.

The two products go hand in hand (0, Offtopic)

Mothra the III (631161) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222381)

Or something like that. Whats the difference whos #1?

All jumbled up (1)

Kobun (668169) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222382)

Enlarge your home mortgage today! Enhace your x10 spycamera with a free credit check! Watch as horny teen personal ads are sent to your backdoor! I've gotten sick. Every time I see the reports showing how the pills sold through spam are just rat poison cut with feces, I smile quietly to myself.

In other news... (1)

xactuary (746078) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222386)

V0ixx replaces Pr0n as Spam King's majordomo.

Wait a minute... (2, Interesting)

JoeLinux (20366) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222387)

Isn't Vioxx used for anti arthritis? Does that make any sense at all?

Re:Wait a minute... (2, Informative)

SpongeBobLinuxPants (840979) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222439)

Yes...

from http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/vioxx/defaul t.htm

Vioxx is a prescription COX-2 selective, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) that was approved by FDA in May 1999 for the relief of the signs and symptoms of osteoarthritis, for the management of acute pain in adults, and for the treatment of menstrual symptoms. Vioxx was later approved for the relief of the signs and symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis in adults and children.

Re:Wait a minute... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222464)

heh-heh-heh....you said "cox"

Re:Wait a minute... (1)

penthouseplayah (454492) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222589)

Does anybody know whether it was Vioxx (rofecoxib) or Celebra (celecoxib) that was approved on a very faulty trial?

They made a trial to last for 12 months but had to stop after 6 because the test persons stopped taking the new product, then they released the results that said fewer had intestinal problems with a cox-2 inhibitor, but after 12 months that advantage had totally disappeared.

Yay! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222390)

Now I don't have to get a penis implant!! I can just buy pills to make it better! Thank god.

yourname(misspelled) CH3ap Softw4res (3, Interesting)

the_bahua (411625) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222392)

It seems that spammers don't even know what they're sending anymore. I get emails with no attachments, no links, just gibberish, with no possible way for me to be that one in eighty-four million that makes them some money.

Is it not so much about money anymore, and more just about pissing people off?

in 1924 perspicacity glutton mining. Because of!

Re:yourname(misspelled) CH3ap Softw4res (1)

ag-gvts-inc (844888) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222438)

That's what I usually get also, luckily POPFile hasn't missed yet. So for me at least, it's just a minor annoyance.

Re:yourname(misspelled) CH3ap Softw4res (1)

EnronHaliburton2004 (815366) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222456)

I get emails with no attachments, no links, just gibberish, with no possible way for me to be that one in eighty-four million that makes them some money.

I wonder if some of these are an attempt to validate your email. Remove the bouncing email addresses. Also, I've noticed that some of the gibberish emails are an HTML doc with a 1x1 transparent gif.

Another theory, some of the Spammer's can't properly use the Spam software...

Re:yourname(misspelled) CH3ap Softw4res (2, Informative)

cavemanf16 (303184) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222492)

No, it's designed to defeat bayesian filters. If you're sending out millions of emails, and making a tidy profit, you don't want to lose that profit. So every once in a while you send out a million emails that are worthless crap, blank, not really selling somethings, etc. to confuse the filters. Then you send out the next wave of spam, wash, rinse, repeat.

Re:yourname(misspelled) CH3ap Softw4res (1)

AKnightCowboy (608632) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222724)

No, it's designed to defeat bayesian filters. If you're sending out millions of emails, and making a tidy profit, you don't want to lose that profit. So every once in a while you send out a million emails that are worthless crap, blank, not really selling somethings, etc. to confuse the filters. Then you send out the next wave of spam, wash, rinse, repeat. See, what I don't understand is how any court in the entire world would uphold that what these people are doing is a legitimate form of commerce. They are crapflooding my inbox. If I went over to a judge's house and dumped my trash on his lawn they'd haul me away to jail, yet spammers do this to my virtual residence every day.

Re:yourname(misspelled) CH3ap Softw4res (2, Interesting)

temojen (678985) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222502)

Try looking at the HTML part.
arteriosclerosis irresistible for farthest midas checkerboard emphases visual cheese northern brownian bainite gambit
translates as:
Xanaax, \/a1ium, Cia1iis, \/iaagra, Ambieen & all popular medss
No long questioning form, you pay & we shiip out today reedbuck
Worldwide Shippiing garlic PR0M0TION RUNNING NOW:
Cia1iis: from $96
\/iaagra: from $64
\/a1ium: from $70
Xanaax: from $75
Ambieen: from $68
& many more meds for u to choose from

Dont miss this PR0M0TI0N

Limited stock until all sold out
(this way please)

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Re:yourname(misspelled) CH3ap Softw4res (1)

TomorrowPlusX (571956) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222504)

These days I even get spam with *nothing* in it. No link, no gibberish, no porn, nothing.

WTF? How could this possibly make anybody any money?

The only thing it achieves is that it tends to make it through Apple Mail's spam filter, which is otherwise excellent. But then again, what is achieved? I don't have any clue what they're trying to hock.

Re:yourname(misspelled) CH3ap Softw4res (1)

Holi (250190) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222535)

I have been getting these to, Totally blank messages, pretty much the only thing that gets through my filters. Strange but only minorly annoying.

Re:yourname(misspelled) CH3ap Softw4res (1)

Ra5pu7in (603513) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222566)

Ditto - wierdest part is they show up with no sender or recipient names in addition to no message or subject. I think the list-cleaning explanation makes the most sense. They can remove all the bounces while knowing that every other email is good to go.

Re:NULL body messages (3, Informative)

dragonman97 (185927) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222605)

If you look at the headers, you'll find that they're extraordinarily sparse. In some cases, the receiving server will add a little bit of data to keep clients happy, by adhering to RFCs (adding "Date:" and the like. As far as I can tell, this is being done as the most accurate recepient verification system they can dream of. VRFY is not accurate, as many receiving systems will say "Well, I don't know that address, but it's in my domain, so I'll try and receive it." If you do everything up to, but not including the DATA part, there's a chance the server might be sloppy or ignorant. If it accepts the message for delivery without error, then there's a decent chance that address exists. This battle is really getting ugly, and will keep escalating - there is no FUSSP, other than hunting down the spammers and stringing them up with piano wire where it'll hurt them.

Re:Probably all in Javascript (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222611)

The spam text is all probably generated on the fly using javascript. Since you have javascript disabled in your email client (I assume), you see a blank email, just like you would see a blank page on some websites if you have javascript disabled. Try using view source or the equivelant in your mail client, and you should see something. You might also want to check for EMBED tags (flash and such) as some spammers are now using all-flash emails. There are online tools to de-obfuscate the javascript spams without having to turn on javascript in your email client (a bad idea).

I see your spam and RAISE it (2, Interesting)

Vicsun (812730) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222746)

When starlet around returns home, pine cone related to steam engine reads a magazine.behind parking lot know wheelbarrow over.girls remain familiar.Bbut they need to remember how carelessly oil filter inside reads a magazine.bubble bath over bestow great honor upon philosopher for somnambulist.Unlike so many pockets who have made their irreconcilable scythe to us.


Furthermore, girl inside hesitates, and earring of require assistance from beyond salad dressing.If skyscraper inside cheese wheel go deep sea fishing with clodhopper beyond, then cup for bottle of beer dies.
What on Earth is this supposed to mean? And why would anyone send it? WHAT IS THIS SHIT AND WHERE DOES IT COME FROM?

Re:I see your spam and RAISE it (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222765)

Thats not spam. It's some god-damned internet enabled fridge relaying what it says on the little fridge magnet words stuck to the side of itself.

Hrm I dont get Vioxx (1)

oneeyedelf1 (793839) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222397)

I only get Cialis spam....

Re:Hrm I dont get Vioxx (1)

Linker3000 (626634) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222471)

Hey, I live in the UK, I have diabetes - I get my Cialis FREE! (gotta be some perks with this damn condition!)

Re:Hrm I dont get Vioxx (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222549)

maybe your wife is hinting at something

Really? (3, Funny)

sulli (195030) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222398)

Want a Watch?

Blank (1)

eyeball (17206) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222401)

I don't know about y'all, but I tend to get blank messages more often than anything. Blank messsage headers, blank message body.

Re:Blank (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222472)

Turn off "View email as plain text". You'll see your spam again. Much spam is sent as HTML.

Re:Blank (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222626)

You also might have to enable javascript in your email client, though it is a bad idea. Quite a bit of spam is all in javascript, which decrypts the text on the fly. Anyone without javascript in their email client sees nothing unless they use view source.

Because you claim to be too rich. (2, Funny)

TalShiar00 (238873) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222412)

Rob, stop telling your credit card companies that you make $2.5 mil a year and you will stop getting rich-people spam. :)

It doesn't matter... It's still spam (2)

Mr. Cancelled (572486) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222420)

I really don't understand why people take the time to diseminate what's being pushed in Spam emails...

It's still Spam.
It's still annoying as hell
It's still as prolific as ever
And it's still (arguably) illegal and unwanted.

And really, wouldn't it be a much nicer world if peoples efforts were aimed at locating and physically beating the spammers instead of opening each of their emails and analyzing it's content? 8)=

Re:It doesn't matter... It's still spam (1)

elecngnr (843285) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222489)

I like the way you think >:) First, we localize them, then show up where they are sending this crap from, drag them into the street, and bitch-slap em silly...then we feed them to the flying monkeys.

It's really disappointing (3, Funny)

Ethanol (176321) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222431)

It used to be that all the spam was telling me to "impress her with my huge new c0ck". Now it's just telling me to "impress her with a r0lex".

Neither one really speaks well of her, does it? But at least before there was still a certain animal physicality about the relationship. Now it's all about the shiny baubles.

I don't know... I just don't think this imaginary relationship is going to last. Maybe I should get back out there, start dating again. 'Course, before I can do that, I'll have to do something about this crippling arthritis of mine...

Lucky editor (3, Funny)

Turmio (29215) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222432)

Of course, for me all my spam seems to be about rolexes.

Well how about that. Lucky you. To me they only offer replicas!

Re:Lucky editor (2, Funny)

tinkerton (199273) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222474)

in my case they're offering the original replicas.

I suppose that beats the offers you get

If it isn't Vioxx... (2)

albn (835144) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222434)

...it is Viagra or something to make your sexual performance better. All these pills, potions, and aides to make your sex life better.

Now it seems sex is not selling as much as it used to. I guess it is time for the pills, potions and aides to make your knees, back or joints to hurt less.

With all this spam filling my inbox, it is so frustrating it makes me give up, delete whatever is in my inbox and mastrubate to relieve the pressure of all this stuff.

Vioxx? (1)

elecngnr (843285) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222435)

I have not gotten any spam related to Vioxx, but oh my god I get hundreds of spam messages a day telling me I won a free iPod/Gateway Computer/XBox/etc. or that I am eligible for a cash advance.

Has anyone on this site actually answered one of those emails and received anything? Headaches not included. I assume they are a scam...probably crafted by Halliburton...yea...evil Halliburton.

I think there should be a special level of hell reserved for spammers...right along side the flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz. Damn, those monkeys scare the hell of of me...I mean, they used to...uh, gotta go.

more and more spam (2, Insightful)

barik (160226) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222437)

It seems that recently, spam has been getting better and better at avoiding my filters. All the sex-related e-mails get tossed right away, but the occasional viagra, rolex, cheap software, or vioxx messages still get through. The thing is: the messages are almost imcomprehensible. Often times they don't even have a link to order, or only have a link, or have an otherwise completely non-sensical message.

So how can people actually order this stuff? Half the time I can't tell what they're even selling. Someone has to be buying, or else spammers would at least make an effort to send e-mail that had, oh, I don't know, a way to actually order the product?

Re:more and more spam (1)

slashfun (831726) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222527)

I've noticed lately that more and more spam is making it past our DSPAM installation. Spammers are getting craftier by the minute.

Re:more and more spam (1)

AKnightCowboy (608632) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222783)

I've noticed lately that more and more spam is making it past our DSPAM installation. Spammers are getting craftier by the minute.

But to what end? If I've went to all the trouble of implementing an anti-spam system, the chances are just around 0% that I would buy anything from a spammer. So, why do they even bother trying to get around anti-spam filters in the first place? Clearly the people DO NOT want their spam and have taken active efforts to block it, yet they continue to try and circumvent the systems. Where is the equivalent of a DMCA law for e-mail? Circumventing an anti-spam device should be punishable by 5 years in prison and a $100,000 fine.

Rolexes (1)

geekd (14774) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222440)

Of course, for me all my spam seems to be about rolexes.

Me too. And I don't even wear a watch.

About a month ago, it seems, the rolex spam started arrving, bypassing yahoo's spam filter, which is usually pretty good.

Oh well, at least it's not "straight dudes sucking cock for the first time... just for you!"

eiwww.

--geekd

Don't really understand it anymore. (2, Interesting)

The I Shing (700142) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222445)

It's gotten to the point where all spammers seem to care about is getting past my filters. Of course, the end result is a subject line that's so idiotic looking that I immediately know that it's spam. Side note: I have to say, too, that Thunderbird does a great job of filtering mass quantities of spam from my inboxes in short order, on both the PC and the Mac. I've been spreading the word, leaving a trail of former Outlook-Express-users in my wake.

the future of spam (1)

tinkerton (199273) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222656)

The end situation will be spam that gets past your filters but it will be so mashed up you'll have no idea what it is about.

how to SUE MERCK!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222451)

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spam of the future (2, Insightful)

big-magic (695949) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222462)

It's interesting that the article mentions that many spam messages are simple text messages with nothing but hyperlinks. This is exactly what Paul Graham predicted in his first essay on Bayesian filtering for spam. This definitely demonstrates that Bayesian techniques are having an effect on the behavior of spammers.

Re:spam of the future (2, Insightful)

upsidedown_duck (788782) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222586)


Also, they are being forced to use such bad spelling that I'm surpised that anyone can ever think they are legitimate. Like telemarketers, spammers can become extinct and no one would care.

I'm approved at 3.25% (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222479)

I seem to have no shortage of mortgage pre-approvals.

Lawyer Ads about Vioxx? (1)

ewanrg (446949) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222490)

For those of you who review your spam before you delete it... :-)

Have any of you noticed how much of the Vioxx related ones are now for ambulance chasing lawyers? Or am I the only one so "fortunate"?

---

Yes I have a blog [blogspot.com] - deal with it :-)

Sllightly OT ... but might be interesting (1)

Cytlid (95255) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222491)

Has anyone ever thought of posting a spam index? In other words, recently I've forwarded all my "old" accounts to my gmail account (including one I've had for over 7 years which collects a ton of spam) and am running "new" accounts on my own mailserver with my domain.

The spam index would be the number of spam emails/number of legit emails for the last month for one email account. This is pretty easy to do as gmail saves the last 30 days' worth of spam. Mine right now (for that account only) is about 431/57 ... not counting the legit mails over 30 days of course.

That's not bad, but what are some other people's "spam indexes"? My work account would be *much* worse...

Re:Sllightly OT ... but might be interesting (1)

Osty (16825) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222591)

That's not bad, but what are some other people's "spam indexes"? My work account would be *much* worse...

Wow, what is your employer doing that your work account gets spammed so much? My own work address gets on the order of 100 legitimate emails per day (on average -- there are plenty of days where I get much more than that), while spam seems to be on the average of 1-2 mails per week. Yes, that's a 1/250 spam index using your method.

My other email addresses are much worse, but that's more because I just don't receive any legitimate email on them rather than because they get so much spam. For example, I have about 25 legitimate emails on my gmail account since signing up last spring. At the same time, spam has never really been a problem until lately, where I'll get maybe 4-5 spam emails per week. If I had to work that out, I'd call it 1 legitimate mail per week to 5 spam mails per week, or a current 5/1 index on my gmail account. Prior to December (apparently my gmail address made it onto some spam lists in December), the index was exactly 0 (0/1 = 0, of course).

(No, I'm not a pathetic loser with no friends. I just don't conduct much conversation via email.)

Re:Sllightly OT ... but might be interesting (1)

neil.pearce (53830) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222602)

I delete my trash at the start of every month. Through December I've had 4484 spam against 240 legit.

I'd say 60% of all my spam is comprised of...
rolex
drugs
mortgage
some virus that uses a body "this is the film version of the broadway hit"
another virus, that arrives as a 164kb (!) zip file with an enormous number of headers/bodies

Re:Sllightly OT ... but might be interesting (1)

neil.pearce (53830) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222667)

Perhaps more interesting is that my spam started to dramatically increase when some unknown f*cker posted a slashdot story synposis including my full email address

Vioxx ? (2, Interesting)

EpsCylonB (307640) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222505)

What is it ?

Sometimes the slashdot summaries can be so vague.

Re:Vioxx ? (1)

MXK (763030) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222836)

Funny how this post was moderated 'Interesting'... You know what would've been even more interesting? Giving us the answer!

Porn spam? (1)

Bender Unit 22 (216955) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222510)

I must admit that I have gotten tons of spam, but never that much "porn spam", I suspect the people getting a lot of that have been putting their email adresses places where they shouldn't and not just have it harvested. But I might just be "lucky".

Re:Porn spam? (1)

cruachan (113813) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222760)

Ditto, I've had a public email address on my company website since 1997, and the amount of porn spam I get must only be about 10% of total spam.

The majority is viagra and other pharmacy stuff.

Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222513)

Well, my porn is about Rolexes....

Do spammers think that no women use computers? (3, Interesting)

Claire-plus-plus (786407) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222544)

Most spam I get is about enlarging my penis, something that being a woman I can't do, or pleasing a woman with my staying power (I can't have erections for some strange reason). Why is it that most spam is aimed at men when it is obvious that women use the net and e-mail as well?

Today two out of the three I received (new e-mail address they obviously haven't found yet) were telling me to increase how well I can please a woman with exercises and drugs to increase my penis size. It is rather disturbing. One thing I want to know... do men actually think that increasing your penis size will make women ecstatic?

Re:Do spammers think that no women use computers? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11222616)

do men actually think that increasing your penis size will make women ecstatic?


Yes, we do. Are you telling me it won't?

No, of course not ... (1)

Tim Ward (514198) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222796)

... from which we can only deduce that the penis scam spannners are all women!!

Wanna R()()1-E-X? (3, Informative)

catscan2000 (211521) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222555)

Rolex spam has increased for me as well. I'm currently using the following regular expression on our Astaro firewall to block them, which has caught the recent "rolax" and "R-O-L-E-X" variants (remove the extraneous whitespace):

(?i)r[[:space:][:punct:]_]{0,3}(o|0|\(\)){1,3}[[ :s pace:][:punct:]_]{0,3}(l|1){1,3}[[:space:][:punct: ]_]{0,3}(e|a){1,3}[[:space:][:punct:]_]{0,3}x

So, bring on the R0001ex!! spam :-)

Hopefully, the next revision of Astaro will include Rolex spam filters in SpamAssassin so that I don't need to use this custom regex anymore.

Here's one message that I'd love to see (and hopefully blocked):
=========

Gr33tingz, Dear Sir! I'm Dr. Jfjweaiofjweoif Iejfiowefjioe from an official bank in Nigeria and am trying to move $39,000,000 MILLION (million) US DOLLARS (United States currency) worth of \/1@gra pills and C1@li5 out of the country but need to confirm your CitiB@nk banking account details. In exchange for the sum of the transfer, you will have the opportunity to be a man like Britney Spears with real-like r()()()()()1eX watches with a screw-in bezel and a second hand that looks like the real thing. All you have to is click here (http://4.12.44.52:39/removeme/now.idc?really=yes) to install a FREE screensaver, which, if you're using Outlook [Express], should already be installed by the time you read this sentence! WOW! HOW CONVENIENT! Our online pharmacy is ready to take your orders for cheating housewives in your area, but HURRY! At these prices, they won't last long!

Geez CmdrTaco... (1)

Picass0 (147474) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222563)


Is this your way of asking for a copy of my bookmarks?

AOL Bullshit News (1)

bfizzle (836992) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222659)

AOL just released a press release saying their spam protection is working. We all know that is because the block pretty much everything but their own mail servers on a whim. Just another /. slow news day

We have reviewed your post on Rolexes ... (1)

Random BedHead Ed (602081) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222752)

We have reviewed your recent post on getting Rolex e-mails, and it qualifies you for a m.or tg ag,e. You could get $300,000 for as little as $600 a month! Bad credit is no problem, you can pull cash out or refinance.

Idea (1)

Rie Beam (632299) | more than 9 years ago | (#11222769)

I have solved the spam problem. We wait 50 years for all of the pre-internet people to die off, and the market evaporates, as few people who grew up online use spam like the pre-internet people. Of course it's not the best solution, since it's a bit time-consuming, but it's a start.
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