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Justin Frankel Reveals Life After Winamp

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the sitting-on-his-pile-of-cash dept.

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Joseph Gelinas writes "Speaking out for the first time on life after AOL/Nullsoft, Winamp creator Justin Frankel sat down with BetaNews to discuss his new endeavors. Starting a new company called Cockos, Frankel is leaving behind the mass market for his musical roots, but hints at revolutionary -- and presumably controversial -- things to come."

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Cockos? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248107)

With a name like that, i don't tghink i want to know what will come out of there

No Kidding.... (3, Funny)

the_mad_poster (640772) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248116)

I'm not clicking a link with a name like that. I'm afraid it might be a goatse troll...

Re:No Kidding.... (2, Insightful)

ZeroGee (796304) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248129)

Seeing as how one of the programs available on that website is "Assniffer," it makes you wonder if he's naming things just to see if stupid people will actually use them in conversation.

Re:No Kidding.... (5, Funny)

Hard_Code (49548) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248201)

I for one think it's a nice leveraging of all that wads of money he made. "Sir, the, um, AssTastic 5000 has arrived...should I connect it to the, uh, sigh, Dumpulator?"

Re:No Kidding.... (1)

BlastM (663010) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248352)

Was the name Jesusonic CrusFX an indulgence in saddism on the behalf of Mr Frankel? Imagine the heart attacks that would ensue the arrival of a new CrusFX effects processor at a Christian-boyband-pop recording studio.

Re:No Kidding.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248388)

it's a joke based on phonetic coincidence:

A Sniffer
Assniffer

haha

And if you got that one, then you will probably get CrusFX = Crucifix
where his picture shows the equipment in a familiar cross shape

MOD PARENT DOWN (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248144)

it is Craig McPherson in disguise

Re:No Kidding.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248265)

Hahaha! We're all laughing.

Shut the fuck up, you dickhead.

Re:Cockos? (0, Troll)

wizbit (122290) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248183)

Have you seen the name of their products?

Here's a packet sniffer called Assniffer [cockos.com] .

Other "cool" innovations - the PHP source for their page generation! With (omgzzss11!1one) AUTO-CENTERING OF TEXT!

Good thing their front page says they're developing "technologies that some people might find interesting. Maybe."

But they should've added, "...if they snicker at every obnoxious, grade-school dick joke" since that's apparently the theme they've chosen for this crap.

Re:Cockos? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248357)

The technologies he is referring to are the Jesusonic (which albeit is a stupid name, but I was amused by the cross shaped platform.) software effects processor and hardware companion.

If Cockos decides to sell their products, it'll probably have a name change but there's nothing wrong with stupid working-titles (The Matrix' working title was "Learn to take a joke") I'm pretty interested in powerful a effects software package that at this point is free, and I know a lot of musicians who would be as well.

So the guy likes to make bad jokes, omgzzss11!1one.

Re:Cockos? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248209)

On some message boards, I wouldn't even be able to type that word. ;)

LOL (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248110)

He said COCK

waggly cocks (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248114)

LOL winamp

Jesusonic Looks Interesting (4, Insightful)

FriedTurkey (761642) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248126)

As someone who plays guitar, the Jesusonic looks interesting. Real time effects processing on a computer would allow an amazing amount of customizations of sounds on the fly. However, it doesn't seem very portable despite being a floor device. I don't see someone taking the monstrosity to a jam session. I think it would be more annoying being on the floor than just at a desk. Jesusonic has to be easier than programming those rack mount processors. Hopefully Jesusonic can grow into something to replace the cost prohibitive Pro Tools.

Re:Jesusonic Looks Interesting (4, Informative)

somethinghollow (530478) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248260)

GarageBand [apple.com] is supposed to do on-the-fly filters. And I know Soundtrack [apple.com] does. Apple has been very staunch about on-the-fly effects not only in Audio, but video as well. GarageBand comes with iLife for $50. Soundtrack is $199. Neither of them will lighten your wallet too much.

I guess Jesusonic might be easier to control on-the-road than having a point and click computer to process your effects, but that is the only bonus I see to having it rather than a computer. But since it has a keyboard, I'm skeptical. If this was meant for the studio, I'd rather have a computer.

Re:Jesusonic Looks Interesting (3, Informative)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248297)

So does Ardour [http] . I've been having a lot of fun using it to process my rackmount gear. Haven't tried it on a laptop though... I have it in my home studio.

Re:Jesusonic Looks Interesting (1)

TheMotedOne (753275) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248556)

This seems interesting because I know that as a guitar player individual pedals and FX boxes can hammer the wallet. Having free downloads and virtually unlimited effects is great. It is also a great way to save space on the stage.

Re:Jesusonic Looks Interesting (5, Funny)

plover (150551) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248270)

Perhaps you can have someone bear your CrusFX 1000 for you...

Isn't "Guitar Rig" the exact same thing? (1)

Viewsonic (584922) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248283)

At WWDC?

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/page.php?id=wwdc_u s

http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?guitarri g_us

For more info.

Re:Isn't "Guitar Rig" the exact same thing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248320)

The big point about the Jesusonic is that it is on the fly programmable, vs. being able to process a limited set of effects.

Re:Isn't "Guitar Rig" the exact same thing? (1)

FCAdcock (531678) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248469)

But so is a good effects processor and pedalboard.

I've looked into using a computer and software for effects processing in the past, but frankly I feel that if I'm going that far into the digital world I'd be just as well off selling my guitar and using the computer to PLAY the music as well.

Isn't the point of playing an instrument actually playing it yourself?

And I really don't need enough effects in my music to be able to afford to pay for an effects rig with a LCD screen and a keyboard. My BOSS pedalboard and 3 or 4 effects pedals work just fine for me.

My rig:

compressor, dual channel distortion, chorus, crybaby wah, tuner, and every once in a while I'll use the flange on my BOSS pedalboard. It blows chunks, but it's a flange and those suck anyways...

As far as bass goes I pretty much use the same things. Only without the need for a dual channel distortion pedal, single channel works fine for most everything.

And I don't even need to use a keyboard for those.

Re:Isn't "Guitar Rig" the exact same thing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248615)

and dont forget the new Amplitube Live too.
http://www.amplitube.com/Main.html?prod_ATLive [amplitube.com]

Re:Jesusonic Looks Interesting (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248307)

Why not just use Jack Rack?
http://arb.bash.sh/~rah/software/jack-rack/
Loads more effects, low latency and a much nicer interface than Jesusonic.

Re:Jesusonic Looks Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248745)

Um, no. The nicest interface for realtime guitar FX is something that doesn't use one's hands. That's why all effects are pedals.

Re: Carrying a Crucifix (1)

JojoLinkyBob (110971) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248340)

You have to admit, you'd probably draw many strange eyes trying to tote this thing on your back from one gig to the next.

I've got the Slogan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248474)

I don't see someone taking the monstrosity to a jam session.

Jesusonic - it really breaks the llama's back! (bahahaha....)

Not very socially acceptable (5, Funny)

maxogden (844677) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248128)

JF: Naming projects is often the hardest part. When I first started, it just came out. A moment of either stupidity (likely) or brilliance (not likely), we'll see. Yeah, its obviously hard for him, with names like Cockos, AssSniffer, and Jesusonic.

Re:Not very socially acceptable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248232)

All I can say is, it takes balls to name your company Cockos.

Re:Not very socially acceptable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248288)

No shit, sherlock :-[

Lesson #1 in Business... (4, Funny)

_PimpDaddy7_ (415866) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248130)

Starting a new company called Cockos

That's a definite no-no...

Re:Lesson #1 in Business... (5, Funny)

parliboy (233658) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248483)

Cockos? Sounds like a breakfast cereal for porn stars.

"Cock-O's. Now with nuts!"

Wow so many jokes, so little time... (0, Redundant)

isa-kuruption (317695) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248135)

So a company named 'Cockos' or 'CockOS' (read: Cock O/S) puts out a product called assniffer (read auto-saving sniffer). Is it just me or does this story just reek of bad jokes?

Re:Wow so many jokes, so little time... (1)

big daddy kane (731748) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248512)

and the php script for their website is called the 'STD Page Generation System[tm]'

But does it run on... (1)

Bill_Royle (639563) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248762)

CherryOS? Seems to me that every cock is looking for a cherry.

Wait, I forgot... CherryOS is still under wraps, right?

10 points to... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248136)

.

The first person to remember Justin Frankels old IRC nick

.

The names he uses for software (5, Funny)

The_Rippa (181699) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248141)

Justin and co. always writes great utilities, but it's really hard to suggest to your boss that the company should be using a tool called "asssniffer" or "ASS I/O".

Re:The names he uses for software (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248239)

I agree. I'm still recovering from the time I suggested we use Back Orifice.

Re:The names he uses for software (1)

larkost (79011) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248341)

The AppleScript Studio lists have the same problem... people tend to skip the acronyms.

I really see this as a growing market (3, Insightful)

ACK!! (10229) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248143)

Not really sure why but a lot of the marketing types around my office jam in bands and are very tech savvy.

I see this kind of product if promoted correctly having a very nice niche market among hardcore keyboard junkies and techy musician types.

Very interesting idea.

Hardware and software I want to use.

Hhhhhmmm .... Sounds like a hacker's grand ideal really.

Re:I really see this as a growing market (1)

winkydink (650484) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248253)

Not really sure why but a lot of the marketing types around my office jam in bands and are very tech savvy.

Wait. The marketing types are very tech savvy?

I hope this isn't too personal a question, but what color is the sky on your planet?

Re:I really see this as a growing market (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248381)

With a name like Cockos, so do I. Eeeew!

Vague (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248156)

Didn't we just read a story about vague products and the people buying them; what is cockos doing diffrent?

quote (4, Funny)

_PimpDaddy7_ (415866) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248158)

Primarily these are a program called Assniffer (which is a HTTP sniffing program that logs the actual files transferred), and PathSync (which I use to interactively synchronize directories on different computers/drives). These are both available on cockos.com.

assniffer, logs, cockos...you put it together...

CockOs (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248164)

Really, err, bad name for a company dude!

Re:CockOs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248208)

I bet when he started Nullsoft, his peers ridiculed it as a name for his company.

$100m later, whose laughing now?

Re:CockOs (1)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248244)

who's laughing?

And no, there's nothing wrong with the name Nullsoft. In fact, it's a great name. Having "Cock" in a company name is clearly stupid.

Good luck on never selling a damn thing. F'en juvenille.

Re:CockOs (1)

Hard_Code (49548) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248317)

"Good luck on never selling a damn thing. F'en juvenille."

Yeah, poor Justin, he'll only have his millions of dollars and reputation left to console him. Boo hoo.

Re:CockOs (1)

metlin (258108) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248362)

You're on crack if you think something won't sell just because it's named badly (intentionally or otherwise).

What's more likely to happen is that it will get quite popular and just like AOL brought out Nullsoft, Cockos will get bought out and the company will rename the products.

While names maybe useful in branding, useful and functional stuff need not always have good names - there will be people buying the stuff for what it does, rather than what it's called. Have enough such people and you'd be mainstream - you'd not be laughing at the name simply because it'd have become ubiquitous.

Back Orifice was such a cheesy name, but when it became popular, people stopped noticing what it was called.

Re:CockOs (1)

deathazre (761949) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248459)

if it's anything like nullsoft, he'll have to get sued over the name of a product before anyone buys him up.

(for the uninformed, yes, that's what happened with nullsoft and winamp.)

Re:CockOs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248393)

who is laughing now: he is, he is filthy rich and loving life.

you are a loser on slashdot bashing somone who has and will continue to accomplish so much

at his age he has already made more money, done more, and accomplished more, than you will ever, in your entire life.

Re:CockOs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248437)

It's great he made tons of money.

As far as accomplishments ... I'd say he's more lucky than anything else. WinAmp is nice, but it was more of a right place at the right time thing than any amazing programming ability and foresight.

I rank his accomplishments at about the same level as a pro athelete or a popular musician. If you want to rank life "accomplishments" on that level, that's great then. Have fun watching the next episode of Cribs. Maybe you'll find some other arrogant people that you might think are wonderful as well.

Re:CockOs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248723)

cribs is idiotic first of all.

but the fact remains, he has done something, you have done nothing.

i

Re:CockOs (1)

eddy (18759) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248514)

I guess chicken breasts doesn't sell in the US?

Cockos... wtf (5, Funny)

isa-kuruption (317695) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248189)

I was going to ask what kind of crack he was sniffing and if he'd share, but I guess that's not the best question given the application 'assniffer'.

Re:Cockos... wtf (1)

TiggertheMad (556308) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248322)

Yes, yes, Justin...you are gay, we get the message. Comming out of the closet can be a traumatic experience, but just take the plunge.

You are amnong computer nerds, nobody cares what 'ports' you scan, as long as you have an admin's permission. Now just stop with the freaky application names, it's wierding out the AOLers...

could it be (1)

private Burrito (836582) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248191)

the mistery company behind Exeem?

In other news... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248203)

I'm releasing a new operating system called VaginaOS. It's tight.

Re:In other news... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248213)

What's wrong with CuntOS? Sounds better alongside CockOS.

Re:In other news... (1)

SmokeHalo (783772) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248407)

Nothing wrong with CuntOS. It's got decent security...there's only one hole, but it's a biggie.

Best Line (4, Insightful)

DarkHelmet (120004) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248211)

Best line of the whole article:

Not only is it useful on computers, it allows people who don't want to spend money on a Jesusonic hardware device to go ahead and write new effects for the Jesusonic.

Now there is someone who is completely devoid of marketing, or corporate thinking. He actually has the notion of contributing something on the basis of realizing that some people won't pay for something.

I suppose at this point he's pretty much made for life, and doesn't have to worry about money anymore. Still, how admirable.

Re:Best Line (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248240)

Aww! How sweet.

Shut the fuck up, dickhead.

Re:Best Line (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248441)

Not only is it useful on computers, it allows people who don't want to spend money on a Jesusonic hardware device to go ahead and write new effects for the Jesusonic.

Now there is someone who is completely devoid of marketing, or corporate thinking. He actually has the notion of contributing something on the basis of realizing that some people won't pay for something.


Really? Unless I'm reading it wrong, it sounds like he's allowing people who don't own the product to increase the value of that product. Eventually, the product will become more and more attractive to non-buyers who will then buy it.

p2p app (1)

SlongNY (766017) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248218)

I wonder what p2p app they are brewing up... I love waste, works well for what it is. I caint wait till they announce what they are making in the end of january.

Re:p2p app (2, Interesting)

marktaw.com (816752) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248652)

I love Waste too. Though, I disagree with the /. idea that this was a subtle reference, he flat out told us he was going to release something that would revolutionize the internet.

If I had to guess, it would be a completely decentralized P2P app. A cross between Gnutella & BitTorrent, perhaps with some proxying for anonymity added on top. Proxying will slow you down, but confound the **AA, which he seems to love doing. If you could turn the proxying on & off, you could get a fast _and_ anonymous service. Fast for people who just want to download, anon for people who feel they need it.

Waste had a lot of protocols that would be useful for proxying, file transfer, etc. He should be able to build something like what I described on top of that.

Re:p2p app (1)

Ulven (679148) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248754)

Surely that would be fast _or_ anonymous.

Huh? (3, Interesting)

blackmonday (607916) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248219)

First, it's a stupid name. Otherwise, the Jesusonic device looks interesting. I use an incredible device called the Pod XT [line6.com] that makes life very easy for recording, noodling around, or juicing up the amp. One of the things I wished was a way for people to program their own effects/amp modeling algorithms and let people share (or sell) them.

This gadget looks like it could make it happen. As far as how it looks, I'm sure it's a prototype which will eventually be a slick, portable gadget. I look forward to it.

Re:Huh? (1)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248663)

"I use an incredible device called the Pod XT that makes life very easy for recording, noodling around, or juicing up the amp. "

I just looked at the Pod XT page...very interesting. It shows MIDI in/out, but, also USB port on it. Have you used this to connect to a Linux box running ardour? I'm just a beginner guitar, but like playing around with the idea of recording, and have been looking at open source sequencers and music tools.

Could you expand on what you've done/tried with the Pod XT? I'm really looking for something to quickly hook my guitar into my computer...

Other music software:

Anyway, these are a few of the things I'm looking at, but, just having a hard way to find to get a guitar into my computer without expensive MIDI connectors and pickups... [epix.net]

Any insight here if the Pod could be used or if you have links or experience with this would be greatly appreciated!!

Interesting (5, Interesting)

albn (835144) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248231)

...how my $900 PC can replace tens of thousands of dollars in effects processing. I remember seeing a reverb/delay for $3000 with many presets and you can program some yourself.

Okay, now that my PC can do effects processing, it can also be used as a multi-track to replace the Alesis ADAT that's has thousands of dollars in add-ons, and can replace a mastering studio and save me thousands there becasuse of my DVD/CD burner. What is still expensive are the instruments, consoles (yay AMEK), and the $14,000 tube mic.

I do not know. Somehow I just cannot let those old things go.

Re:Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248541)

Ever hear of ProTools? Reverb/Delay and so much more! Mac-based, none the less!

Re:Interesting (1)

albn (835144) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248700)

No I have never owned a mac and have not used a studio in 15 years. A lot has changed since then.

Ping-ponging, SMPTE, "automation" with the really expensive replacement modules, tons of electricity, battling/splicing tape, take after take, hundreds of hours editing, mastering, and trying to meet deadlines. Not only that, the music went nowhere. It came a time I gave it up and did something else while all that stuff collects dust.

Now all that has changed it seems... now all you have to do is turn on a computer, download some software and you are good to go.

One thing that makes me wonder, professionals still use good ol' analog equipment and I still see the monster consoles I used way back then. Then again, I havenot kept up with the industry in a very long time. I guess it is time to do some research on advancements in recording/audio engineering.

There is more to a name (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248259)

"It's a stupid name" means people will be talking about it, and they won't forget it. Great PR.

And lets not forget how crazy "Nullsort" sounded when it was founded. $100m+ later, whose laughing now?

Company name != quality of product offered

Cockos, it's what's for breakfast (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248263)

Seriously, the name Cockos sounds like a gay cereal.

Re:Cockos, it's what's for breakfast (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248286)

Right- and they aren't coated in sugar either.

Re:Cockos, it's what's for breakfast (1)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248479)

Just wait until you see what kind of prizes they'll have inside.

Surely it'll sell better than Goatse O's.

Pathsync (3, Interesting)

tayhimself (791184) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248264)

Pathsync looks interesting for directory synchronization. Is there something to do this between two linux clients or windows and linux that is rsync or cvs based. Preferably GUI clients or easy to use ones. I need windows > linux backup and linux laptop > linux backup. I saw backuppc in the debian archives, but I'm intersted in user opinions as it is always so much better. Thanks!

Re:Pathsync (1)

Hard_Code (49548) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248344)

isn't there a rsync (or rdist) port for windows? check cygwin

Re:Pathsync (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248467)

Try Unison [upenn.edu] .

Re:Pathsync (2, Informative)

jojo1835 (470854) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248562)

Check out http://www.ifolder.com/ [ifolder.com] . It's a half open source / half proprietary software piece that lets directories sync between computers, regardless of the OS. Lin to Win, Win to Lin, Lin to Lin, etc...

Enjoy!

Tim

Re:Pathsync (3, Informative)

electrichamster (703053) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248592)

You'd be wanting Unison then: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ [upenn.edu]

There's Win/Lin/Mac client's, both graphical and console... lovely little app :)

I'm suprised he's a windows geek (3, Interesting)

digitalgimpus (468277) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248271)

This isn't meant as flamebait but an observation:

Common hackers of his level of inovation, and to a degree hatred of authority/corporations really dislike windows and love the freedom and inovation of Linux.

Seems like everything he touches is Windows related.

Just suprising.

Though somewhat depressing...

it's inovators like him, who really make software people like. Say what you will about WinAmp... but it was one heck of a popular app. Same with everything else he was involved in.

HE is what Linux could really use: someone to create the golden tools.

Re:I'm suprised he's a windows geek (1)

plover (150551) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248338)

I think Linux already has a very large pool of talented developers who are already contributing a vast number of exceedingly cool tools.

Overall, it seems to me that Windows that has been lacking a large number of open source developers. I think most Windows developers are already of the mindset that "hey, if Bill Gates gets paid for this, so should I." Yes, there some freeware, and even some open source projects that are Windows-based. Overall, though, the Open Source community has always rallied more around the Open Source OS.

Re:I'm suprised he's a windows geek (1)

nbert (785663) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248486)

There used to be more developers creating OSS for Windows IMO. Probably many of them moved to linux. Might be more fulfilling to contribute free software on a free platform, but that's just a guess.

Here's an old discussion [slashdot.org] on this topic.

Re:I'm suprised he's a windows geek (1)

kin_korn_karn (466864) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248546)

no, it's just that development environment and library upgrades are free.

Re:I'm suprised he's a windows geek (3, Insightful)

Strudelkugel (594414) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248457)


My guess is most non-programmer musicians run Windows, MacOS, Linux, in that order. I would also guess the percentages are quite lopsided in favor of Windows as well. His idea (and I think it's a very good one) is to bring effects processing creative freeedom to the music community, not promote one OS over another.

Re:I'm suprised he's a windows geek (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248470)

HE is what Linux could really use: someone to create the golden tools.

Correction: Someone with money to spend.

Re:I'm suprised he's a windows geek (1)

cpeterso (19082) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248487)


Would Winamp be as popular or successful if it was a Linux-only app? I doubt we would be talking about Justin Frankel today if we was a "Linux programmer". Winamp has some cool ideas, but the implementation stinks. It just filled a void in a huge market: the mass-market Windows home PC market.

Re:I'm suprised he's a windows geek (5, Insightful)

ScytheBlade1 (772156) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248496)

I call bullcrap. This IS slashdot, and likewise it's rare to see a "Windows Geek" get posted here.

Slashdot is also a serious minority. Compare the number of shashdotters to the number of people running windows 98 (at home). We're nothing in number. Consequently, go look at Channel 9. *Tons* of windows geeks. And suprise, some of them just may be worth listening too.

I'm not expecting too many people to care, but there ARE intilligent people who use windows. Justin Frankel just managed /. posting "about him", which is uncommon.

(*having premonitions of insightful troll*)

Re:I'm suprised he's a windows geek (1)

utexaspunk (527541) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248597)

maybe he wants his software to get actually USED by normal people who don't have time to fiddle with their OS constantly.

on that note, he should be making stuff for OS X...

Re:I'm suprised he's a windows geek (5, Interesting)

jarsonic (843935) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248728)

Actually, as someone who knows Justin as at least an aquaintance, He dabbles with linux a bit, and really loves his Macs (he has a powerbook and a G4 Cube). He's ported winamp to mac for his own personal use (and to see if he could), and he's releasing jesusonic for mac, as well.

Jesusonic?! (3, Funny)

wild_pointer (263802) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248272)

I bet you dont learn in marketing class to name you products "Jesusonic CrusFX 1000" and make it look like a cross!
Never ever bind religion to something you dont have to, it just causes trouble!

On the other hand, I would definitely want one! :)

Cockos! (0, Offtopic)

Darth23 (720385) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248359)

... the pornographic Breakfast Cereal!

I apologize deeply to anyone I might have offended.

Whatever he is working on... (4, Funny)

jstrain (648252) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248376)

Whatever he is working on, I'm sure it really whips the Lamma's ass...

Re:Whatever he is working on... (0, Troll)

Darth23 (720385) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248405)

Obviously someone who never listened to the WinAmp sample file modded the above message down.

Re:Whatever he is working on... (1)

Raunch (191457) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248464)

> Whatever he is working on, I'm sure it really whips the Lamma's ass...

I was just going to say mod parent up, but since I'm in here: Llamma.

Re:Whatever he is working on... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248606)

I was just going to say mod parent down, but since I'm in here: llama.

Re:Whatever he is working on... (1)

JessLeah (625838) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248619)

It's spelled "llama", dammit.

Pisschrist in digibucket (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248389)

The romantic, classical, and mannerist phases of religion.

The New Testament: Jesus saves

Utah: Our Jesus is better than your Jesus.

Justin: Jesusonic really whips the llama's ass.

HEY I WANT A BIG JUICY PUSSY!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248400)

WHERE CAN I FIND A BIG JUICY PUSSY? EMAIL ME AND TELL HOW. MAKE IF FAST PLZ, I'M REAL HORNY!!!!

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.
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yup
gotta fuck 'em all
one in the pussy one in the bum
double the fun
jizz on the face
oh she don't like it
too bad thats just so sad
but hnow it's time to fuck again

This is why he's got lots o money. (4, Insightful)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 9 years ago | (#11248484)

Give the software away, but tie the ease of use it to special hardware that he makes.

Lots of people will run this, and make presets, and do lots of stuff for free for him, while he sells the hardware that makes it usable (without having to hack it together yourself).

Genius. I think Apple tried something like that before...anyone heard of the iPod?

great name, what a translation! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11248599)

You may find amusing that cockos sound like cocohs
and translates to "merdas" or shits (back in english)

how can there be a better name to describe the page? ;-)
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