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Top 10 Reasons to Move to Windows 2000 Professiona (-1, Offtopic)

Stop the war now! (662586) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291023)

Top 10 Reasons to Move to Windows 2000 Professional
  1. Value. The number one reason to move to Windows 2000 Professional is the overall value it offers your business. As this list proves, Windows 2000 Professional can help you reduce costs through improved management and increase productivity through improved reliability and ease of use. For example, analysis conducted at Credit Suisse First Boston [microsoft.com] predicted that using Windows® 2000 Professional could reduce the firm's directly related IT costs by 15 percent, as well as improve employee productivity by cutting computer-related unproductive time by as much as 41 percent. For more about return on investment, see these reports from Giga Information Group, Inc. [microsoft.com] and Arthur Andersen [microsoft.com] .
  2. Reliability. An essential requirement for business users is a personal computer they can count on. That's why Windows 2000 Professional includes fundamental improvements--such as modifications to the operating system core to prevent crashes and the ability for the operating system to repair itself--that make it the most reliable desktop operating system Microsoft has ever produced. On comparative reliability tests [microsoft.com] conducted by ZD Labs, the average system uptime of Windows 2000 Professional was over 50 times that of Windows 98 and 17 times that of Windows NT Workstation 4.0.
  3. Mobility. Mobile computing is simpler and more efficient with Windows 2000 Professional. This means you can work anywhere, anytime while also saving time and increasing productivity. As described in these news articles, Finally, a Notebook OS [zdnet.com] and Mobile Users In Love with Win2K [theregister.co.uk] , Windows 2000 Professional offers mobile users key productivity and time-saving features, including the ability to hibernate and restart the system without a reboot and the ability to easily take files and folders offline.
  4. Manageability. Windows 2000 Professional is easier to deploy, manage, and support. Centralized management utilities, troubleshooting tools, and support for self-healing applications all make it simpler for administrators and users to deploy and manage desktop and laptop computers. These improvements pay off in reduced costs, as illustrated by this Eastman Chemical [microsoft.com] total cost of ownership analysis.
  5. Performance. The advancements made throughout Windows 2000 Professional are accentuated by the operating system's speed. As shown in ZD Labs tests [microsoft.com] running the most popular business applications, with 64 MB of RAM, Windows 2000 was 32 percent faster than Windows 95 and 27 percent faster than Windows 98. It is also significantly faster than Windows NT 4.0 on configurations with 32 MB of RAM.
  6. Security. Windows 2000 Professional provides comprehensive security features to protect your sensitive business data, both locally on your desktop computer and as it is transmitted over your local area network, phone lines, or the Internet. With its support for Internet-standard security features such as IP Security, Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol, and Virtual Private Networking, Windows 2000 is so secure that banks, such as Credit Suisse First Boston [microsoft.com] , use it. For some organizations, such as the law firm Dorsey & Whitney LLP [microsoft.com] , security is a key reason for moving to Windows 2000.
  7. Internet. The familiar user interface of Windows 98 combined with all the capabilities of Internet Explorer 5, makes using the Internet and your local desktop a unified user experience, as described by PC Magazine [zdnet.com] . This user interface, combined with integrated search capabilities, makes it easier to find and use information locally and on the Web.
  8. Usability. As described in this Windows 2000 Magazine review [winsupersite.com] , Windows 2000 Professional combines the power and security of its predecessor, Windows NT Workstation, with the traditional ease of use of Windows 98. It also provides more wizards, a centralized location for common tasks, and menus that adapt to the way you work.
  9. Data Access. When you use Windows 2000 Professional in conjunction with Windows 2000 Server, you can take advantage of IntelliMirror technologies. By letting you store your important information and desktop settings on a central computer, IntelliMirror lets you work on any computer attached to your network as if you are at your own desk. The centralized management savings made possible by Windows 2000 IntelliMirror technologies are one of the reasons WFofR, Inc. [microsoft.com] is using Windows 2000 Professional.
  10. Hardware. Windows 2000 Professional lets you take advantage of new hardware devices, such as those with universal serial bus (USB) and IEEE 1394 (Firewire) connections. In addition, support for existing hardware makes Windows 2000 ideal for companies, such as Panasonic [microsoft.com] , that want to standardize on a single operating system across their organizations.
How To Get Windows 2000 Professional: Convinced? Choose from the following to move to Windows 2000 Professional today:

Re:Top 10 Reasons to Move to Windows 2000 Professi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291048)

Why wouldn't I want to use Windows XP Professional and Windows Server 2003 instead?

Day 0? (5, Funny)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291031)

Oh, now I get it. Nerds.

Day 0 (4, Funny)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291103)

All: Day-0, day-ay-ay-0
All: Bill Gates come and he wanna go home
All: Day, he say day, he say day, he say day,
All: He say day, he say day-ay-ay-o
All: Microsoft come and he wanna go home

Boys: Hack all night on a drink a'rum
Girls: Daylight come and he wanna go home
Boys: Hack manana till thee morning come
Girls: Bill gates come and he wanna go home

Re:Day 0 (1)

eclectro (227083) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291296)

All: Day-0, day-ay-ay-0 All: Bill Gates come and he wanna go home

Not bad, really. But you forgot the thing about the commies.

Re:Day 0 (1)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291428)

"Not bad, really. But you forgot the thing about the commies."

' Bill Gates Come and say-a commie go home '.

Nothing to see here, please move along. (1)

TrollBridge (550878) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291036)

Well of course there isn't, silly! According to the write-up, this is Day 0 of the convention! Wouldn't a story about an event that doesn't exist violate some basic law of physics?

Re:Nothing to see here, please move along. (1)

Jon Kent (777707) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291117)

Day 0 includes all the hours of the first day (cardinal versus ordinal numbers!) including Day 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, etc.

We come to Day 1 only after 24 hours have elapsed after the beginning of the convention, Day 0.

And I write this for the benefit of the (very few) Slashdot users who might be confused by this. I don't like feeding trolls.

Re:Nothing to see here, please move along. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291289)


And I write this for the benefit of the (very few) Slashdot users who might be confused by this. I don't like feeding trolls


Someone needs to get a sense of humor.

Microsoft CES Torrent (5, Interesting)

mnordstr (472213) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291039)

In case you missed Microsoft's less than successfull opening event on Wednesday, hosted by Conan O'Brien and including two full system crashes and other glitches, the torrent is still available on my blog [nordstrom.fi] .

Some good laughs in there (not only Conan's perfomance). :)

Re:Microsoft CES Torrent (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291176)

Anti-MS Dumbass, there was one glitch viewing photos and one crash of a video game. That was it. 99% of the show went well. There were no other glitches. Stop being a fucktard.

Re:Microsoft CES Torrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291295)

If you knew anything about computers, you would know that getting a piece of software to perform a specific task on a specific piece of hardware is incredibly easy. The fact that they managed to fuck it up TWICE says a lot about the quality.

Re:Microsoft CES Torrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291234)

Where's the torrent of the Linux device that plays good, original games and doesn't require a master's degree in computer science to set up?

Re:Microsoft CES Torrent (2, Insightful)

Anubis350 (772791) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291459)

put in UT2004 disc, run the install on linux script (its an executable, just click on it), play game.....

if you need 3d drivers and you're using an nvidia card (which you should if you're using linux) d/l nvidia's drivers, stop X, install, follow instructions to modify your X config, restart X (even easier than windows, don't even need to restart your machine and all instructions are available from nvidia website in great detail).

I don't know why I even try, feeding trolls is so tiresome......

U3 (4, Interesting)

HeghmoH (13204) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291041)

Flash storage manufacturers SanDisk and M-Systems are slated to announce Friday at CES a new USB standard called U3, which enables users to carry, store and launch applications directly from a USB flash drive without installation.

Do we really need "a new USB standard" to allow apps to run without installation? I've been doing this on my Mac forever. I know that this can work on Windows if you write the program correctly. Why the need for a giant consortium?

Re:U3 (5, Informative)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291111)

If you have an autorun.inf file on the media, Windows (if configured to do so) will read it and do what it says.

I know it works with removable USB hard drives, we have various demos setup on usb drives, so all our dopey marketing folk have to do is plug it in to their laptop, and it starts up.

Re:U3 (2, Informative)

daves (23318) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291152)

From the description in the article, it sounds like there is a sandbox involved.

Autorun anybody (1)

grahamsz (150076) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291179)

Sounds just like what they did with Windows 95. You put an autorun.inf file on the disk and as soon as the system sees it, it starts.

What's the market for this anyway. Am i going to have to carry one dongle for each application?

Surely it'd be better to work on a standard for applications that run from removable media... require that they run from a single exe file and create some sort of sub-registry on the removable device - that'd make it easy for people to handroll their own usb functionality.

Re:Autorun anybody (1)

Specter (11099) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291277)

"What's the market for this anyway."

What about (assuming the usb is big and fast enough) hosting an MMO client? Aren't people perennially complaining about griefers? If you could uniquely identify the key chain and it was required for game play, then you could ban the device if someone misbehaved badly enough. They'd have to buy another device to get back on and at say $50 a pop being a griefer would become an expensive proposition very quickly.

Plus it'd be pretty cool to take your "Dark Age of Evercrack Heroes Galaxy" addiction with you wherever you went.

Re:Autorun anybody (1)

arkanes (521690) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291377)

Because some sort of hypothetical multi-tier keychain system is so much simpler and more available than just banning the account, right? Identifying a griefer is not the hard part of controlling them.

Re:U3 (0)

peragrin (659227) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291200)

>>Why the need for a giant consortium?

Because it's the MSFT way?
One company to rule them all,
One company to find them,
One company to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

In the land of Redmond were the shadow's lay.

Note: I don't really think Redmond, Wash. is evil. It just goes best.

Re:U3 (1)

Ironsides (739422) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291270)

Read it again, Microsoft isn't in the U3 consortium. They don't want to be in it cause they don't control it.

Re:U3 (1)

mzwaterski (802371) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291290)

LOL RTFA: Microsoft is mysteriously missing from the list of supporters for this standard.

Re:U3 (0, Troll)

KevinKnSC (744603) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291298)

First, the shadows (no apostrophe) lie in Redmond. It would be lay if the shadows were doing it to something else, or if the shadows were lying in the past.

Second, Microsoft isn't even part of the U3 group. Nice slam at MS, though. You really burned 'em.

Re:U3 (2, Funny)

b374 (799492) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291261)

Is that U2's upgrade? Is it for the next black iPod?

Re:U3 (3, Interesting)

Genady (27988) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291306)

Hrm... this seems.... like a potential for evil. I can see this as a virus propagation vector. Just like floppies, but better because you can put a lot larger payload on a thumb drive. Am I the only one who can see a 'Windows XP Root Kit Thumbdrive' surfacing on eBay? Will we be talking about 'Thumb Kiddies' in a few years?

With universities pushing USB flash as the storage medium of choice in their computer labs I think that college IT's job is about to get a bit tougher.

Cell phone TV (5, Insightful)

nizo (81281) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291043)

Great, now people can not only talk on the phone, but also watch tv on their cell phone while they drive.

Re:Cell phone TV (2, Funny)

EnronHaliburton2004 (815366) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291207)

Well, you can use your Camera Cell Phone to take a picture of them watching their TV Cell Phone (Be sure to get a picture of their License plate), and notify their insurance company.

And I'll use my Video Cell Phone to take a movie of you watching your Camera Cell Phone to watch them ...

Re:Cell phone TV (2, Funny)

JohnGrahamCumming (684871) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291217)

Driving. Who cares about driving?

What I'm most worried about is the users of cell phones with TV being allowed on flights. Now I have to spend 5 hours being crushed by the sweaty overweight guy next to me, who's watching King of Queens reruns while giving a play-by-play, complete with guffaws, to his best bud on the other end of the line.

I wonder if I could claim temporary insanity if I were to injure my neighbor in that situation?

John.

Re:Cell phone TV (1)

zymurgyboy (532799) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291346)

Uh, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this ends up in one of the 6 through 10 slots on the ol' Wired Vaporware Top 10 [wired.com] for '05.

Why 6 through 10? Who really expects this to not suck enough for anyone to really be clamoring for it in the first place?

Windows 2000 (0, Offtopic)

Stop the war now! (662586) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291044)

The Microsoft® Windows® 2000 operating system is the ideal platform for the next generation of business computing and addresses the full range of customers' computing needs, from laptops and desktops to high-end clustered servers. The operating system helps organizations Internet-enable their business with a reliable, manageable infrastructure that is optimized for existing and emerging hardware.

Windows 2000 Professional is the operating system for desktops and notebooks for all sizes of business. Windows 2000 Server is an entry-level solution for running more reliable and manageable file, print, intranet, communications and infrastructure services. Windows 2000 Advanced Server includes additional functionality to enhance availability and scalability of e-commerce and line-of-business applications.

Amateur look (1)

suso (153703) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291054)

Is it just me, or do the display tables look very amateurish? I have never been to CES before though so...

corepirate nazi execrable felons still at it? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291055)

what a surprise?

lookout bullow.

all is not lost.

consult with/trust in yOUR creators, making things wwwork since/until forever. see you there?

Do they have: (4, Funny)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291058)

Do they have:

Digital cameras that act as cell phones?

Handheld gameboy clones that play MP3s?

Mp3 players that play videogames?

Cell phones that play MP3's?

Cell phones that play videogames?

Mp3 players that take digital pictures?

Gameboys that make phone calls?

If I left off any of the the ridiculous convergence that makes up so much of tech buzz these days, let me know.

Re:Do they have: (1)

MikeXpop (614167) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291141)

1. Nope, not that I know of
2. Nokia N-Gage
3. iPod has breakout
4. Some motorolla phones do this
5. Nokia N-Gage again
6. Not that I know of
7. Well, Nokia N-Gage.

I'd also like to mention that the Game Boy Camera acts as a Gameboy that takes digital pictures.

Re:Do they have: (1)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291322)

All of the above- 1 to 7- are covered in a single device from HP that TMobile is selling as a cell phone. True, it's a bit larger than most of those- the 640x480 screen adds some size all on it's own- but it does do all of the above and then some (damn thing actually has 4 radios in it: Wi-Fi, GPRS, GMS, Bluetooth). Add only one more small box (a Bluetooth GPS unit) and you've got the ultimate convergance machine.

Re:Do they have: (1)

igrp (732252) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291376)

1. Nope, not that I know of
2. Nokia N-Gage
3. iPod has breakout
4. Some motorolla phones do this
5. Nokia N-Gage again
6. Not that I know of
7. Well, Nokia N-Gage.

1. Me neither. Bad since most new cell phones have a built-in camera, and since there's already 3 megapixel cam/cell phones available (with 4 MP just around the corner [pcworld.com] ) with storage becoming increasingly cheaper, I think it's only a matter of time before we cross from "cell phone with a camera gizzmo" into "full fledged digital camera that also takes phone calls".
Sure, professionell photographers won't ditch their equipment and anyone who's serious about taking pictures still won't bother with these. But there's a point where a cell phone cam is "just enough" for the average Joe. And that point, there's just no point in carrying an extra digital camera. So, in essence, you the digital camera and the cell phone become indistinguishable.

4. True. There's quite a few other cell phones that have MP3 playback capabilities (I know Siemens and Samsung make some, plus there's the smartphones and PDA/cell phone clones). And since the ringtone business is pretty lucrative and kids definitely do want MP3-like ringtones, it's just a matter of time before MP3-like audio playback becomes a standard.

5. See above. Most business phones have Java. And those handsets that are marketed towards the 14-23 crowd, do definitely support games (usually through Java and on-demand GPRS downloads which are - again - big money makers).

Re:Do they have: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291205)

Before you waste money on all that stupidness, go donate to help the tsunami victims. You seem to have way too much time and (parents') money on your hands. Stop being so selfish and spoiled too.

Don't even respond (1)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291236)

Don't even respond unless you have a USB thumb drive with an embedded commodore joystick. Begone with you!

Re:Do they have: (1)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291279)

You missed the Pocket PC that acts as a Camera, a WiFi Phone, a Cell Phone, a Bluetooth Navigator (with addition of Bluetooth GPS of course), a video game player, an MP3 player, a video player, and a Sattelite phone.

It's going to be a damned long time before anybody beats HP out in the convergence field. (For those who don't know, I'm talking about the high end of the 4000 and 6000 series that actually came out *before* CES). Oh yeah, and thanks to Familiar Linux and/or the various 8088 emulators out for the platform, yes, they do run Linux.

Re:Do they have: (1)

CausticPuppy (82139) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291280)

All of the items on your list would be useless to me unless they also have GPS capability. And perhaps even a thing that tells time.

Now is not the time for time. (1)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291311)

"All of the items on your list would be useless to me unless they also have GPS capability. And perhaps even a thing that tells time."

They were working on it, but it got complicated when it was revealed that SCO had filed an patent on the hours from 02:00 - 11:00 AM.

Re:Now is not the time for time. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291372)

Congratulations!!!

You have performed the most pathetic failure at making a joke that I have seen for many months now. It's almost beautiful how completely un-funny your posting is.

(Of course, the actual "funny" part will be when the slash-heads mod your posting up since it has both an SCO "joke" and a patent system "joke" in it.)

Re:Do they have: (1)

the0ther (720331) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291354)

Original poster is such a hater. Come feel the convergence love Mr. Man.

Re:Do they have: (1)

eclectro (227083) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291356)

If I left off any of the the ridiculous convergence that makes up so much of tech buzz these days, let me know.

Yeah, you forgot the flashlight, heartrate monitor, and tire pressure guage with digital voice.

Then we have convergence!

How about THINGS YOU CAN STICK YOUR IPOD IN? (3, Funny)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291070)

Like, your ass.

Re:How about THINGS YOU CAN STICK YOUR IPOD IN? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291148)

I suppose that's a little better than the greased-up Yoda doll. My bowels are still unglued from that episode.

Re:How about THINGS YOU CAN STICK YOUR IPOD IN? (1)

Jon Kent (777707) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291154)

"Is it the shape, or just the pounding baseline?"

Re:How about THINGS YOU CAN STICK YOUR IPOD IN? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291352)

Oh poor donkey.

Re:How about THINGS YOU CAN STICK YOUR IPOD IN? (1)

TeamSPAM (166583) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291371)

So are you bitter cause you can't afford one or that it won't play org vorbis? ;)

iPod Video Display (2, Interesting)

Attar81 (574867) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291077)

I think that video attachment for the iPod looked pretty cool. I've not seen a HD-based video player that has a clamshell design. It makes a lot of sense (protects the screen and keys and kind of makes double to space for keys and screen)

Re:iPod Video Display (2, Informative)

podperson (592944) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291237)

"I've not seen a HD-based video player that has a clamshell design."

I have. It's called an iBook. I'm guessing that it's not much more expensive than an iPod + this piece of junk, has a far better screen, plays DVDs, and has interchangeable batteries.

Nyko's iPod movie player (2, Interesting)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291082)

I read the press release for this a day or so ago, but didn't know it would be this cool.

My wife and I have been talking about getting a pair of portable DVD players for the kids - or, as I call it, "sanity preservers" so during the 10-12 hour drive to Grandma's house, Dad doesn't kill them after the 6000th "Are we there yet? I'm bored!"

I can take their entire "Angelic Layer" and "Magic Knight Rayearth", rip the DVD's to AVI's and then slap them onto an iPod. 20 GB of data should store about 60 movies (at about 300 MB apiece) - plenty to store an entire season at once, with room left over in case Daddy wants to watch one of "his" movies while Mommy drives for a little while.

No worrying about the DVD disks getting lost in the car or damaged (a problem since the cartoons belong to Daddy who gets very upset when they get scratched), and since the 5 year old is now listening to her own music she can either watch her movie or listen to something.

Very cool idea from Nyko. Depending on the cost, I can see myself snagging one of these things.

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (1)

SoTuA (683507) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291114)

My wife and I have been talking about getting a pair of portable DVD players for the kids - or, as I call it, "sanity preservers" so during the 10-12 hour drive to Grandma's house, Dad doesn't kill them after the 6000th "Are we there yet? I'm bored!"

Actually, for said purpose there are better products, like the DVD players designed to be strapped to the back of the headrest, and run on the cigarrette lighter plug.

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (2, Insightful)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291175)

Of course, if you don't already have an iPod, it would seem an Archos box would make the wiser investment, since you can basically do what you want with it, rather than be limited to certain "allowed" formats.

You can get a portable DVD player designed for kids for about 100 bucks, though. We got our youngest one for christmas. It's not a sexy geek device, the battery is an old NiCad and weighs a ton, and only lasts 4 hours or so. But it works great, and it reads DVD-Rs and VCDs.

80 bucks for the player and pennies per blank disc, and you stay just as sane on a long car trip as with the 500 dollar iPod + 300 dollar "peripheral" (just guessing at what they'd charge, but that sounds right for what is essentially a self-contained media player and usb host, minus the hard drive).

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291282)

We got our youngest one for christmas.

Oh, shit stratjakt, YOU HAVE KIDS???? Heaven help us.

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291457)

I'm doing fine, it's his kids that need heaven's help... This stratjakt guy is a lunatic.

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (2, Funny)

TrollBridge (550878) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291183)

"or, as I call it, 'sanity preservers'

Or as I call it, "the electronic teat".

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (1)

spuke4000 (587845) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291415)

plenty to store an entire season at once, with room left over in case Daddy wants to watch one of "his" movies

Or as I call it, "the electronic teat".

Makes one wonder if the two are related.

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291199)

Dude, I don't want to second guess you and I really don't mean to be a dick here but I honestly believe that you should consider making some changes when you comes to your parenting.

You are - in all seriousness - suggesting that your five-year-old needs an iPod with a video attachement. I do concurr with you that it's a cool gadget (and it attests to the expandability of the iPod). But for a five-year-old kid? Come on.

A small child doesn't need ~$600 or so worth of electronic equipment. All a child of that age needs is it's imagination. Motivate your kids to do something besides watching DVDs and playing games. You need to show them that there's cool stuff out there, that there's an alternative to just staring at a screen.

Trust me, it's harder than using a DVD player as a fallback babysitter but it pays off over time. Twenty years later, your kids will be very thankful for showing them an alternative to watching DVDs for hours on end (not flaming, just saying).

Besides, should you choose that watching DVDs is right for your kids (hey, who am I to tell you what to do with your offspring), do yourself a favor and buy a cheap DVD viewer. You can get them at Walmart for at lot less than this device (let alone, an iPod plus this device) and they play DVD+/-Rs.

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (1)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291260)

Considering that you missed the part that said "Long 10-12 hour car trips", not "everyday use", I'll thank you for your advice - though it completely missed the mark of what I was trying to convey.

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (1)

Moofie (22272) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291475)

I used to read books on long car trips. I know...it's crazy.

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291489)

Why don't you just give her some crack already and sell her to the white slave trade in asia. It's apparent that you aren't a parent.

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (2, Funny)

Ubergrendle (531719) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291206)

My wife and I have been talking about getting a pair of portable DVD players for the kids - or, as I call it, "sanity preservers" so during the 10-12 hour drive to Grandma's house, Dad doesn't kill them after the 6000th "Are we there yet? I'm bored!"

I believe a single Taser is more cost effective than individual DVD players, especially once you get past 2 kids.

Or you can resort to my technique of "NyQuil" in the juice container...

use my dads method: (3, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291249)

me: "Are we there yet? I'm bored!"
dad: "yes, get out."

Re:use my dads method: (2, Interesting)

LetterJ (3524) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291417)

Yeah. The one time my brother and I were left by the side of the road we learned our lesson on this one.

Threats were not idle in our house. I did go without supper, did have the TV physically taken away and my father was ALWAYS told when he got home.

Of course, I also went to a school with pretty harsh discipline, where the entire male population of the 8th grade was given group detention for 2 weeks.

I definitely never needed any of these lessons taught twice, so I'm a fan.

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (2, Insightful)

EnronHaliburton2004 (815366) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291343)

My wife and I have been talking about getting a pair of portable DVD players for the kids - or, as I call it, "sanity preservers" so during the 10-12 hour drive to Grandma's house, Dad doesn't kill them after the 6000th "Are we there yet? I'm bored!"

My kid is still a baby, so I haven't experienced the "Are we there yet?" years too much. And I'm not trying to be preachy-- I just want to know what other parents do with their kids.

You and I survived these long car rides with books, games, puppets, imagination and long period of staring out the window (a great time for day dreaming and thinking, and I still do it). We didn't have this constant stream of stimulation being pushed at us, and we survived fine.

Are you sure you want to push your kids (and you and your wife) for 10-12 hours? How about getting a hotel somewhere in the middle there. You all need more rest then that, and the drive would be more leasurely-- you could even drive for a few hours, take a break and see some of the sights and get some exercise, and then drive again. You'll also drive much more safer...

Dvd or not, 10-12 hours in a car can't be good for you or your kids.

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (1)

AceCaseOR (594637) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291479)

You and I survived these long car rides with books, games, puppets, imagination and long period of staring out the window (a great time for day dreaming and thinking, and I still do it). We didn't have this constant stream of stimulation being pushed at us, and we survived fine.

Well, I did that too, except for trips to the beach. Then we had that nice, long, winding road through the coast range which did not necessarily make reading while the car was in motion a good idea (motion sickness anyone?)

Then again, I don't see how you could avoid the motion sickness problem with an in-car TV either.

Re:Nyko's iPod movie player (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291492)

Yes, but what do you do when your kid asks the same question during a 14 hour plane ride from NY to Singapore?

Apps launching from USB (3, Funny)

davidwr (791652) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291088)

Gee, we've had apps launching from CDs and before that floppies since, what, before 1980?

Seriously, I wish more vendors would put "try me"/no-install versions of their apps on their distribution media, so I could use my apps without the bother of installing.

Re:Apps launching from USB (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291309)

If only Live CDs stretched beyond Linux...

Actually, after reading TFA... (2, Funny)

SoTuA (683507) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291093)

...I think it should read "things you can stick your ipod into". Although maybe then slashdot would start setting off adult filters...

Wow (2, Funny)

kaedemichi255 (834073) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291096)

Hot girl [thetechlounge.com] at the CES. Notice that she's got a tag on which means she's one of the show attendants. What a great way to market! (I'm so there next year!)

Re:Wow (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291220)


Hot girl at the CES


Her life must be hell this week.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291286)

Nah, that's just CowboyNeal in drag.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291235)

that's the new Sony AIblow, not a human girl. It is CES, after all.

(sorry couldn't resist)

Re:Wow (1)

the Man in Black (102634) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291314)

Hot girl at the CES.

I clicked the link thinking "Typical geek standards of attractiveness. I'm sure she's fairly to modestly attractive in a dowdy sort of way. Or maybe she looks like Morgan Webb or something". Then I saw the picture. She is in fact smoking flaming hot, and I need to know what in god's name she's doing at a consumer electronics show.

Unless she's a porn star. Isn't that upstairs of the show, though?

Re:Wow (5, Interesting)

The-Dalai-LLama (755919) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291374)


I used to work for a company that made memory upgrades. One of the key purchasing agents was a smoking hot little petite blonde who, at the time of this story, was not even old enough to drink.

One year at CES some would-be vendor made a remark about the company having a piece of "fluff" at the booth. She wheeled on him and let fly with a diatribe that showcased her comprehensive knowledge of RAM chips, PCB issues, and our company's component needs and then she let him know, in no uncertain terms, that whether or not we ever purchased a single capacitor from his company would be a decision made by the petite piece of fluff with bubble gum-pink fingernails that he was speaking with at that very moment.


He walked away dazed. I don't think we ever did business with him.



The Dalai LLama

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291434)

Damn I wanna marry that girl!
But then again, us geeks are probally just too sweet. We should just stay friends. :'(

Re:Wow (1)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291422)

You'll have to if you want to see any girl like this at CES, your link is smoked!

Re:Wow (1)

zenbanana (781223) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291468)

So how many of us clicked, looked at the girl for 1.5 seconds, then looked at the case for four times longer? I certainly did.

Wait a minute... (1)

revery (456516) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291097)

Is this just a clever dupe of the story on vaporware [slashdot.org] ?

Also, did anyone else find the list of coming attractions to be a bit underwhelming?

--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.

Fanless media center? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291112)

In the /. world, Microsoft's media center is already fanless.

In /. world... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291251)

it us US who screw MICROSOFT.

Huzzah for CES! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291124)

I'm there as I write this...
No, no... not There...
Now I'm there, oh yeah [homemade-sex-toys.com]

Konica/Minolta Analysis Suspect (1)

BenEnglishAtHome (449670) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291153)

These guys seem to think that it's smart for K/M to put their image stabilization technology inside the camera body instead of the lenses [thetechlounge.com] since it'll make the lenses less expensive. Nice thought.

I would point them to the lesson Contax learned when they put autofocus inside the camera body for the 35mm SLRs (the film plane moved back and forth in a mechanical box inside the camera to achieve focus). It was a great solution and allowed full autofocus with all of those great Contax lenses. It also died in the market.

For some reason, most photogs seem to want motors in their lenses. I don't understand it, but that's the way it is.

Re:Konica/Minolta Analysis Suspect (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291266)

probably because there's too much shit inside the camera already, and 9/10 times a serviced camera is never the same again.

Re:Konica/Minolta Analysis Suspect (2, Insightful)

Ironsides (739422) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291326)

Main reason it probably died was due to the body being completely incompatible with previous lenses. Go spend 5K (or more in most cases )on lenses and then tell me you want a body that is incompatible with them.

The image stabilization in teh body, however, if it is compatible with current lenses WILL SELL. Especially to people that can't afford the current auto stabilizing lenses. (like me) Best bet for that is to license it to Nikon and Cannon for theirs and they will make a bloody mint.

Re:Konica/Minolta Analysis Suspect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291327)

Hmm... Contax's offering suffered more from the price than anything. Their existing userbase were not the techno-fetish type and few of them needed autofocus. People who needed AF had already moved to other systems and dedicated Contax lovers were not actually the right market segment for such an expensive camera.

They should have sent a photographer (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291187)

Just once I wish the people that put up these "Look at me I'm at Trade Show(n)" websites would actually know how to use a camera.

Really. There are digital camera guides everywhere. Read one before you go, hell read one when you're on the plane, because really, your photography SUCKS.

What it's all about (3, Insightful)

buckhead_buddy (186384) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291256)

If you take the worlds of television, telecom, games and music, and then remove content, you wind up with the consumer electronics show. Despite what you may be assuming, I think the inteligence level goes up quite a bit once content is removed. I envision telecom devices having fascinating conversations with my sister in Uganda rather than listening to telemarketers. I recall television products replaying some of my favorite cancelled shows rather than endless hours of mind-numbing nonsense.

I find it a bit disheartening that so much of the success of these products will depend on the success or failure of the content. Finally, when I heard Conan's lame double entendres about flacid penises (as in the Microsoft intro) that shook me out of my interest in what was presented at this convention. More and more I'm coming to the conclusion that products that allow the common man to produce content are far more interesting, revolutionary, and important than the evolutionary products shown at the Consumer Electronics Show to allow you to consume the content of others. The products at CES that catch my eye are ones that allow me to create or enojy the creations of others, unfortunately I think I'll see more of that sort of thing at NAB in April than I've seen at CES so far.

Please, tell me that I'm wrong and point out some great consumptive and productive tech that's made its debut.

U3 (1)

lcde (575627) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291278)

So it's like setting up Auto Run.. for USB. will it require new hardware or just software reconition?

1337! (0, Redundant)

Have Blue (616) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291294)

0-day conventions! l33ch!

In other news... (1)

Garabito (720521) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291329)

Samsung announced a cell phone with TV tuner [pcworld.com] , but probably it will be disabled by Verizon request in order to force the consumers to buy content from Verizon Wireless.

"things you can stick on your iPod" article text (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291330)

Couldn't load the article in Camino. To save others the trip to another browser:

Here [infosyncworld.net] is the picture of the device. The caption below the picture reads:

Nyko's MoviePlayer promises to transform an iPod into a fully fledged portable media viewer.

Bringing video playback to the iPod
By Jørgen Sundgot, Wednesday 5 January 2005

Beating Apple to the punch, little-known peripheral manufacturer Nyko has unveiled an iPod accessory which enables the popular audio player to play back videos on a 3.5" display.

At the ongoing Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Nyko Technologies has announced the MoviePlayer, an iPod peripheral which gives owners the ability to play back video stored on an iPod on a 3.5" display. Currently at the prototype stage, the company says the accessory is slated for release in the spring 2005, utilizing a portable cradle concept to connect the accessory to an iPod.

The MoviePlayer will connect to the iPod via the dock connector and draw upon its storage capabilities, delivering video playback on a 3.5", 16-bit TFT display as opposed to the small, monochrome display of the iPod itself. The accessory also includes built-in stereo speakers, although whether users will be able to utilize headphones is still unclear.

Offering a dedicated user interface, the MoviePlayer will according to Nyko allow for both music and video playback, as well as photo viewing, using a navigational interface which appears similar to that of the existing iPod scroll wheel. According to the company, included software - compatible with both Windows and Mac OS X - will convert any audio, video or image file to a format compatible with the MoviePlayer.

An additional three hours of playback can be had from the rechargeable Lithium Ion battery of the MoviePlayer, according to Nyko's claims, allowing users to watch "several full-length movies on one charge". To protect the screen when not in use, the MoviePlayer closes clamshell-style, protecting both the accessory itself as well as the connected iPod.

In related news, Nyko Technologies also announced several other iPod accessories, including a button relocator which moves all basic control functions from the face of the player to the top; a speaker dock; add-on, rechargeable battery packs for both the iPod and iPod mini under the iBoost moniker; and more. According to Nyko, all of its products will be launched in early 2005.

Pricing and availability for the Nyko MoviePlayer will be announced closer to launch.

From the stuff you can stick on your iPod Article (1)

razmaspaz (568034) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291340)

According to the company, included software - compatible with both Windows and Mac OS X - will convert any audio, video or image file to a format compatible with the MoviePlayer.

I call BULLSHIT. But if it can play the shows I get off my TiVo [tivo.com] without me having to do any manual conversion, then I'm all in.

Somehow I think DRM'd files will not work, as well as multitudes of other formats like divx, but who knows, maybe they are really good at this stuff.

cool image sharing app (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291370)

I ran into a cool booth at CES, they're got this software that'll let you send pictures straight from your cellphone to your computer at home, and share those pictures from your home computer out to your friends without uploading them anywhere. Their name was Avvenu [avvenu.com] and they're going into beta pretty soon!

"Fanless Media Center Device" (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11291391)

So how IS Ashlee Simpson enjoying CES?

"Auto-run" Features Are a Security Risk (2, Insightful)

EXTomar (78739) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291403)

I don't care how "nifty" it is but from an IT point of view having any "hot-plug" device used on a computer in the enterprise automatically running things an unvalidated source (the hot-plug device itself) is a security risk. Where did the USB device come from? What does the USB device really do? If a user can't answer some simple questions about this they sure aren't added it to a machine on the network. I will not allow users pluging strange PCI cards into their machines that aren't quite sure what they do. Why should I allow USB to do the same thing?!?

Why are these guys pushing to make this "standard"?? Thanks for more tracking and security headaches guys for the sake of "convience".

pornphone (1)

nizo (81281) | more than 9 years ago | (#11291439)

Advantages: can be held in one hand
Disadvantages: only for people who like really tiny naked people (naked Thumbalina anyone?)
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