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Giant Iceberg to Collide with Glacier

CowboyNeal posted more than 9 years ago | from the snow-plowing dept.

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OECD writes "NASA reports that a massive 100-mile-long iceberg is on a collision course (movie) with a floating glacier near the McMurdo Research Station in Antarctica. NASA scientists expect a collision to occur no later than January 15, 2005."

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iceburg (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319073)

stupid nigger cant even spell frist psot

Oooh! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319074)

Cold Fusion?

Ah! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319182)

Get out of the way! It's floating fast! lOOKOUT Long Island! Swim away!!!!

Penguins in peril (1)

tobozo (794087) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319193)

Garcon ! Un perrier on the rocks s'il vous plaît !

Iceburg? (2)

CdXiminez (807199) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319078)

Welcome to Iceburg, Drygalski. Population 0.

Re:Iceburg? (4, Funny)

cwebb1977 (650175) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319140)

Hey, I'd like to live there. Cool and quiet, lots of snow... just like Sweden without all the hot blonde babes.

DON'T CLICK THE LINK (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319085)

Not work appropriate!

Oh Crap... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319086)

Roland Emmerich is going to make another movie....

God DAMN IT.

Ai chingawa... (-1)

kaedemichi255 (834073) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319087)

Yet another sign that the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" may be becoming real..........I'm scared...

Re:Ai chingawa... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319103)

I guess you will be giving up your car then, taking up public transport, switching to clean electricity sources, reducing your garbage, recycling, not buying products linked to deforestation, and so on.

Its one thing to be scared its another to do something about it.

Re:Ai chingawa... (1, Insightful)

chopperlinux (69212) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319139)

Why is it that any environmental event worse than a mild hailstorm is now attributed to a global climate catastrophe bought on by humanity?

Re:Ai chingawa... (1)

DigitumDei (578031) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319150)

Yup and after the collision we'll all freeze to death in a matter of seconds...

Why the hell mention that stupid movie. Come on, while there is evidence that global warming is indeed melting icecaps and sometimes thus causing areas to cool down rather than warm up, an iceberg crashing into a glacier is hardly a sign that some hollywood blockbuster is about to become true.

So? (-1, Redundant)

js7a (579872) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319091)

Is there anything that could possibly have less consequence?

Re:So? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319105)

Well, it's an iceberg the size of Long Island. Even if it is of no consequence, it's still sort of cool.

Re:So? (4, Funny)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319121)

Of course it's cool. If it weren't, it would be just liquid water, or even steam.

Re:So? (1)

nfarrell (127850) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319177)

Is there an analogy between this and meteors? We keep not seeing little ones until they're on us or even past us - is it the same with icebergs?

If a big section of ice were to break up, would it affect sealevel in a significant way? Even if we know these bergs won't, how much warning will we get before a a big one happens?

In Green mars [scifi.com] a large portion of antarctica breaks up, raising Earth's sealevel by around 8 metres. Though it's not due to happen 'til 2127.

Re:So? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319230)

If a big section of ice were to break up, would it affect sealevel in a significant way?


No.

The melting of icebergs physically cannot have an effect on sea level, since ice floats and thus displaces the same volume whether in liquid or solid form. So, icebergs melting isn't a sign of anything.

Antarctica melting, however, will introduce new liquid into the ocean, so that would be bad.

Re:So? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319252)

I'm ignorant and uninformed, so perhaps you could go one step further and confirm whether or not the melted FRESH water could cause any significant changes in... well, anything. I'm suspecting a "no", but I've been more than mistaken in the past...

Re:So? (1)

BrokenHalo (565198) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319130)

Is there anything that could possibly have less consequence?

Yep. Cloning sheep. After all. the whole point of sheep is that they're all supposed to be the same...

:-D

Re:So? (2, Funny)

Naikrovek (667) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319138)

well when all the penguins down there cluster themselves into a giant beowulf penguin named guido to push the giant iceburg away from the family home of dave the tv repair penguin, then maybe you'll see the significance.

Re:So? (1)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319163)

Is there anything that could possibly have less consequence?

Less consequence? Can you say tsunami?

If you live in southern Chile, or anywhere else that's close to Antartica, head for the hills!

Re:So? (1)

Hinhule (811436) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319212)

... the last tsunami was caused by the largest earthquake in the last 40 years, over a length of 1200 km.

You seriously think a localized collision will cause any noticable reaction at all in Chile? There just isn't enough energy to cause much of anything.

Sure there may be waves around the collision, but if you have sense enough to stay away from that you'll be fine.

Re:So? (1)

Ghostgate (800445) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319204)

Is there anything that could possibly have less consequence?

If there is, I'm sure Slashdot will find that too. ;)

I think... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319092)

Cool!

In other news... (0)

wertarbyte (811674) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319093)

Giant sandcastle about to hit oasis, stay tuned.

Wait.. (5, Funny)

MrRuslan (767128) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319096)

That's the day after tommorow...well it almost is.

Iceburg? (2, Interesting)

anno1a (575426) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319100)

What's an iceburg?

Re:Iceburg? (1)

CptCook (635438) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319115)

I think it's like an English Iceberg

Re:Iceburg? (1)

lowpass_wilter (831895) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319124)

No, iceburg simply isn't a word. You can't attribute every random spelling mistake on British English.

Re:Iceburg? (2, Funny)

tindur (658483) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319136)

That's Iceborough in BE.

Re:Iceburg? (3, Funny)

Alan Partridge (516639) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319264)

By "British English" I assume you mean English, yes?

Re:Iceburg? (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319131)

A castle made out of ice?

Re:Iceburg? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319132)

Well an "iceburg" is a spellchecker that is frozen.

Re:Iceburg? (1, Funny)

MagerValp (246718) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319135)

The new combined slushie and burger coming to a McDoodoo near you soon!

Re:Iceburg? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319195)

jesus christ, that sucked. try harder next time, asshole.

Re:Iceburg? (5, Funny)

koi88 (640490) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319142)


What's an iceburg?

From German:
Berg (as in iceberg): mountain
Burg (as in, umm, iceburg): castle

So I guess this iceburg is some mad scientist's hideout (Dr. Frost or whatever).

Re:Iceburg? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319237)

Nick Mountain's Head?

Re:Iceburg? (1, Interesting)

britneys 9th husband (741556) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319229)

Certain towns with a distinctive style of architecture are referred to as iceburgs. Here is an example of one iceburg's hotel [icehotel.com] .

Re:Iceburg? (0, Offtopic)

pigreco314 (194375) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319255)

According to Googlism [googlism.com] :
"iceburg is afire
iceburg is cold and the water molecules contained in the iceburg are moving slowly
iceburg is a huge
iceburg is afire scapegoat sister ship twenty three deep sunless sea
iceburg is afire; she loves the wind; mektub/kesma; coca cola and beer; on the fringe;
iceburg is available in the following box styles
iceburg is under the surface and this is the greater reality of the iceburg
iceburg is cheap and available to me at fry's for $10
iceburg is so freaking small[...]"

Iceburger (0)

liangzai (837960) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319102)

I'll have one of those Kahoona Iceburgers. Fries with that, please. Easy on the ice, though.

In other news ... (1)

detrino (444362) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319108)

NASA's webserver is on a collision course with... No, actually, I dont think anyone cares about this.

what's an iceburg? (3, Funny)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319110)

a city in greenland?

AWFUL (1)

lowpass_wilter (831895) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319111)

OECD writes "NASA reports that a massive 100-mile-long iceberg is on a collision course (movie) with a floating glacier near the McMurdo Research Station in Antarctica. NASA scientists expect a collision to occur no later than January 15, 2005."

That is some of the worst amateur journalism I've ever seen. How about telling us what the consequences are, what's been said about the event, SPELLING ICEBERG CORRECTLY?

IceBERG -1 for spelling. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319113)

MODS!

Need a better view (5, Interesting)

Albinoman (584294) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319114)

Things like this dont happen too often. Surely someone can sacrifice a few bucks to set up a camera in the front row. Maybe it could be some inspiration for those CGI effects in Hollywood.

This makes me wonder. (0, Troll)

jim_v2000 (818799) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319117)

What kind of important work are these people getting paid for when the most exciting news they can come up with is a giant iceberg that could knock of the tip of some other big chunk of ice. How much time does it take to even notice that? I mean, wow. I thought my job was boring....

Re:This makes me wonder. (1)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319180)

What kind of important work are these people getting paid for when the most exciting news they can come up with is a giant iceberg that could knock of the tip of some other big chunk of ice.

That tip will fall into the ocean. And you'd be surprised what a relatively "small" piece of rock [geolsoc.org.uk] (or in this case: ice) can do when it splashes into a huge water mass.

Re:This makes me wonder. (1)

jim_v2000 (818799) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319191)

Fall into the ocean? i thought something like 80% of an iceberg is underwater already.

Re:This makes me wonder. (1)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319217)

It will still shake up the ocean, even if eventually the mass of ice in the water is not larger than before (as the main body of the iceberg will rise the same amount due to loss of weight).

And if the falling piece comes off the glacier (which rests on land, at least in part), there will be a net increase in volume.

apocalypse , now? (5, Funny)

OffTheLip (636691) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319118)

tsumanis, icebergs, mudslides, giant asteroids on a collision course with earth, windows exploits. armegeddon?

Re:apocalypse , now? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319144)

tsumanis, icebergs, mudslides, giant asteroids on a collision course with earth, windows exploits. armegeddon?

If Windows exploits are a sign of Armegeddon, we've been in serious trouble for some time now.

Re:apocalypse , now? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319202)

Not armageddon, Global Warming.

Which, IIRC threatens to bring at least a couple of the horsemen of the Apocolypse. Famine and Death being the two I immediately think of. Not to worry about Armageddon itself, though. That battle will occur seven years after the believers are taken away.

So, no, this is not Armageddon. However, it may be a sign of the Apocolypse (the non-Larry Wall kind). Get to know some Christians, if they are all missing at once, prepare for 3.5 years of good times, then 3.5 years of hell on earth.

Re:apocalypse , now? (1)

wass (72082) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319245)

Strangely enough, Paul Krugman of the New York Times has an opinion column [nytimes.com] today entitled "The Iceberg Cometh", which I just happened to go to after seeing this slashdot heading. I was confused at first, wondering why he would care about such an iceberg collision, until I read the article.

No, his column isn't about icebergs per se, but about the administration's attempts to paint the social security situation like it's on a collision course w/ an iceberg.

So anyway, offtopic yada yada (except for the title).

If you have style.... (1)

should_be_linear (779431) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319119)

...wait for collision, it will create those little ice cubes for your favourite drink. And remember: Everything is under control.

For the scared tsunami people... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319120)

This collision will cause a huge Tsunami, please, if you are on land, please seek safety on the ISS. Thank you.

Offtopic (1)

Docrates (148350) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319123)

IcebUrgs?

So Slashdot has evolved beyond mere typos on the editor's comments and now sports typos on the headlines...

I've always found interesting that, in English, two words that are spelled differently can be pronounced the same.

Re:Offtopic (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319146)

It's even more interesting that two words which are spelled the same can be pronounced differently.
Example: "Have you read this? No, I'll read it tomorrow."

Re:Offtopic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319184)

Well, at least they didn't write "iceborg".

Why no cameras on the ground? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319125)

Why is it they are relying only on satellite imagery? What about placing multiple cameras strategically on the iceburg and glacier itself?

I think I remember reading in an article before that they were only going to have satellite imagery due to cost and logistics issues.

I dont believe satellite imagery will show anything nearly as spectacular as cameras on the ground .. even at 1 or 2 meter resolution it sucks .. no depth perception and even worse it's overhead only.

I really dont see why the scientists decided not to have cameras transmitting or recording on the iceburg and or glacier itself. Or at minimum from an external vantage point.

So... at last we meet again (1)

ZoomieDood (778915) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319126)

Will we finally find out what happens when an unstoppable force meets and immovable object?

News at 11:00.

What if we could tow a 100 mile iceberg to SE Asia to help with water supplies? Wouldn't that be intense!

I'm sure it's been said before, but... (0, Redundant)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319127)

... ice*BERG*.

Re:I'm sure it's been said before, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319254)

Or maybe IceBorg ? It makes very good IceBorg Cubes... Erm...

Next up on /..... (0, Offtopic)

MerryGoByeBye (447358) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319129)

  • A squirrel hides a nut
  • Four gallons of rainwater seep into the watertable past forty-two thousand small bits of rock of varying size
  • Elephant takes giant poop


  • Other than the "Ooh, big Tonka truck go boom!" aspect of it all, why is this an article?

Re:Next up on /..... (1)

ro_coyote (719566) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319226)

Because it's not every day you get to see a 100 mile long Tonka truck go boom... unlike a squirrel that hides nuts, four gallons of rainwater flowing past a bunch of rocks, or an elephant taking a giant poop (unless its load is the size of Montana).

Re:Next up on /..... (1)

MerryGoByeBye (447358) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319270)

Are you going to honestly tell me that you care about an iceberg hitting a glacier in Antarctica? More to the point, that it deserves to get its own article on /.?

Conversely, do you also believe that if there were giant elephants taking massive poops (Long Island is far smaller than Montana, btw) that their excremental misadventures should get their own /. articles? I guess I disagree.

Re:Next up on /..... (1)

Zorilla (791636) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319242)

You don't even need a subscription to tell what's coming up on Slashdot. Just check out the Evening Tech Bits section of news updates on Blue's News [bluesnews.com] . Half of the items end up on Slashdot in one or two days.

In all fairness, Blue takes many articles from Slashdot as well.

Re:Next up on /..... (1)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319260)

Four gallons of rainwater seep into the watertable past forty-two thousand small bits of rock of varying size

Don't underestimate the possible consequences of rainwater seeping into mud. Read here [nerc-bas.ac.uk] about what may happen!

Elephant takes giant poop

Hey, if he happens to be on a Chicago bridge [go.com] when he does, he may cause some stir!

A Chilly Armageddon (2, Funny)

fyrewulff (702920) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319141)

Where's Bruce Willis and a nuke when you need them? The poor penguins must be saved from the iceberg!

Re:A Chilly Armageddon (1)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319170)

Bruce is obeying the prime directive and not interfering. Who knows being crushed by this iceberg this could lead to a race of super flat, 2 dimensional penguins who will take over the world.

Re:A Chilly Armageddon (1)

sigmoid_balance (777560) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319183)

We allready have that. One of them is called Tux.

Re:A Chilly Armageddon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319221)

Bruce Willis is dead. Remember that only the freak child was able to see him?

I'm going to key a SUV for the damage to the... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319147)

.. environment.

bye bye penguins (0)

Neo-Rio-101 (700494) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319148)

If anything it will make for some great video footage.... thousands of penguins swept away in a tsunami.

Fellow Americans (1)

skitzoid (moomoo) (769245) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319149)

Antartica must be liberated

After reading... (0, Troll)

Jace of Fuse! (72042) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319151)

After reading the news post, the article, all the comments, and even watching the video, I tried very hard to imagine the many possible ways something interesting could come of this.

I finally just decided that this story is stupid.

Re:After reading... (2, Funny)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319176)

You know, you'd think that Slashdotters would be more interested in seeing one gigantic thing ramming into another gigantic thing.

Oh, wait, there won't be any fire and explosions. Never mind.

That's why it's an article (1)

FlashGordon_CyberDud (703530) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319153)

What could happen if lange amounts of fresh water hit the oceans? Right, the salt level changes. The stream (sush as Gulf stream) start moving, re-designing the climate. We're heading for an ice-age. By the way, when are you stupid americans going to have a look at that Kyoto thing?

Re:That's why it's an article (2, Informative)

polysylabic psudonym (820466) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319232)

You're thinking of something like this [newscientist.com] .
Fresh water entering the antarctic isn't a problem, but in the arctic it could switch off the gulf stream and mess up the weather all over the atlantic.

Mr. Vice President, a Piece of Ice the size of... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319156)

.. long island broke off! If that's not sensational, then i don't know what is.

- quote from Day After Tomorrow.

Is that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319158)

Is that an Iceburg Lettuce? Damn GM crops!

Long Island, huh? (1)

nilbog (732352) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319159)

Man did you guys watch that video? I mean, it was pretty crazy how long island just detached and flew down to antarctica! And this is going to happen when?!

Set a course, Cptn Stubing! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319166)

I claim this solid matter in the name of Troll Kingdom; bring your own tea bags, you Brittish shit-faces. [funny--pictures.com]

Iceberg destuction upon collision (1, Funny)

MerryGoByeBye (447358) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319169)

Think of all that poor lettuce!

Coralized (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319171)

link [nyud.net]
movie [nyud.net]

Iceberg, floating glacier. What's the difference? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319174)

I, for one, disagree with the findings of those scientists.

It is my belief that the iceberg is stationary and that the rest of Earth (including the glacier) are moving.

It's not the size, it's the speed which matters (1)

UR30 (603039) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319181)

The asteroid which caused the "dinosaur extinction" 65 million years ago was only 10 km (6 miles) wide [si.edu] .

Re:It's not the size, it's the speed which matters (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319224)

size does matters.. ask a blonde you nerdy slashdotter..

ach Hans, run! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319198)

that'll certainly take the edge of penguin power

chicks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319199)

The build-up of ice presents significant problems for Antarctic residents. Penguins must now swim great distances to reach open waters and food. Adult penguins may not be able to make the trip and return with food for their young. As a result, many chicks could starve, says Antarctica New Zealand, the government organization that oversees New Zealand's Antarctic research, in the Associated Press.

we don't want THAT to happen, do we? :(

Re:chicks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319258)

No, we wouldn't [entertainmentnutz.com] , that would be just horrible [kate-site.com] .

You think? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319200)

Is it me, or could they not have worked out that there was a possibility of collision earlier? I'm glad they aren't driving cars in my neighbourhood :p

This is important because... (5, Informative)

polysylabic psudonym (820466) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319201)

Aside from looking cool and being important to penguins (the two things that the article seems to focus on) this can affect things that are actually important.

The ice tongue that the iceberg is going to hit is the ocean end of a glacier. If that is knocked off by the collision that could be like pulling the cork from a bottle. It may cause the glacier to discharge into the more rapidly than it otherwise would, raising sea levels.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg1842 47 96.100

Re:This is important because... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11319228)

So New York gets a little flooded and some kid is trapped in a library. Who gives a damn? Certainly not I.

"As heard on the Glacier" (1)

Killjoy_NL (719667) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319209)

Iceberg dead ahead!!

Iceberg vs iceburg (1)

randallpowell (842587) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319215)

It's great and all but can it run Linux?

This is a sign of either global warming, End Times, change in the Earth's magnetic poles, or Nature's protest of Republicians plan to remove environmental protections.

Any way you look at it, someone can write a book and make profit from it.

We need the best drilling team on the planet (1)

Ribo99 (71160) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319231)

Quick! Contact Bruce Willis!

Ooooh 300 million tons (5, Interesting)

asliarun (636603) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319257)

(been a long time since i did some math)

From the site:-
"The B-15A iceberg is a 3,000-square-kilometer (1,200-square-mile) behemoth"

Pulling figures from the nether region, i'm assuming the berg to be 100mts high. This would give us:-
Surface area = 3000 sq. km = 3000 x 1000 x 1000 = 3 x 10^9 sq. mt.
Thus, volume of berg = 3 x 10^9 x 100 = 3 x 10^11 cubic mts.

Now, i know that roughly, 1 cubic meter of ice (water) = 1000kg.

Thus, weight of berg = 3 x 10^11 x 1000 = 3 x 10^14 kgs.

That's 3000000,000,00,000kgs. = 3000000,000,00 metric tons = 300000000 kilotons = 300000 million tons!

If my math is correct, then oooh boy, this is going to be one heck of a fender bender.

In case of slashdotting, Mirror here (4, Informative)

appleLaserWriter (91994) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319267)

http://www.nasa.gov.nyud.net:8090/vision/earth/loo kingatearth/ice_berg_ram.html

Giat Iceburg to Collied with Slashdot ... (1)

max909 (619312) | more than 9 years ago | (#11319271)

Accorgin to some reliable information sources, a giant number of users will supposedly hit the slashdot.org. Be ware, this wont happen after 15 Jan 2015
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