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iPod Shuffle, Mac Mini, iLife '05, iWork

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the steve-puts-on-a-show dept.

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A number of announcements from the Mac World keynote this afternoon. The iPod Shuffle is pack-of-gum sized, no screen, weighs less than an ounce. Ships today, $99 for the half gig, $149 for a gig. The Mac Mini is the headless iMac... 6x6x2.5 with all the expected plugs, starting at $499. Lot's of tiger bits, spotlight, virtual folders in Mail.app. iLife '05 will ship Jan 22. iPhoto gets folders and video support. iMovie supports HD. GarageBand gets 8 channel recording. iWork includes Keynote 2, and 'Pages' the new word processor and ships the same day as iLife.

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goodbye bank account (5, Funny)

rwurth (639926) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323733)

wait, cheap Mac, cheap iPod. Nevermind

Two things (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323737)

1. How much will the OS cost for the mini mac?

2. Does the iPod Shuffle have a screen?

Re:Two things (1)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323786)

Can't you at least read the blurb?

The iPod Shuffle is pack-of-gum sized, no screen

Re:Two things (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323845)

See, that was a joke... since the summary felt the need to state it twice in the same sentence.

Re:Two things (1)

guet (525509) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323789)

I imagine the OS will come with it, just like every other mac product.

Since it ships with the iLife software, hopefully they'll give you something to run that on : )

No screen on the iPod shuffle.

Re:Two things (1)

Jotham (89116) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323832)

Most of the mac sites have the keynotes in point form. To answer you questions:

1) mini mac comes with OS and iLife (iWorks $79) -- which I think puts it under an corporate workstation microsoft licence cost... how much does Office cost again?

2) No screen... playlist or shuffle/autofill

Re:Two things (1)

Reverberant (303566) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323834)

How much will the OS cost for the mini mac?

$0.00

Does the iPod Shuffle have a screen?

Wow... I know ./'ers usually can't be bothered to read the linked article, but you would at least hope they would read the Posting. (here's a hint: "... and no screen." )

Re:Two things (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323872)

You should probably also know that Slashdotters are notorious for overreacting to obvious jokes.

Re:Two things (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323905)

it wasn't a joke, it was just stupid

Slashdotters, like most people, find stupid jokes really annoying

Re:Two things (1)

ericdano (113424) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323860)

1. Apple's come with the OS installed.

2. No. Look at www.apple.com

Well.... (2, Funny)

JoeLinux (20366) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323739)

Technically, we now have an iPod for $99 now...technically.

Anyone else dissapointed?

Re:Well.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323817)

what? did you want it to give you a blowjob too?

Re:Well.... (1)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323823)

Not at all. I don't want to spend hundreds on an mp3 player... but I want the space of an iPod. This isn't quite as much as I'd hoped, but it's close.

Creative put out a USB MP3 player that I really liked... it was a lot like this, but the storage space was sadly lacking. We're talking 32-128MB for this price range.

By the time I find a need to exceed 512MB or 1GB of storage, I'll have a chance to get back and refill/reload.

Not for everyone, but I think it's right for me. (at least, until I see pics and specs)

Re:Well.... (4, Funny)

emilymildew (646109) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323934)

Wait, you want the storage space of an iPod, and the features of an iPod, but not the price tag?

No wonder you were disappointed at this keynote. Why didn't they just provide THAT?

Re:Well.... (2, Insightful)

timeOday (582209) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323855)

Well, I don't think it will be an "iPod" killer, so to speek.

On the other hand, this is the first iPod that will be really well suited for running and biking. It's light enough, cheap enough, and all solid state. $99 for a 512 meg player isn't bad, last I checked.

If it has separate buttons for skipping between albums vs. skipping between songs, it might not be too hard to navigate 512 meg's worth of music without a screen.

Re:Well.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323911)

What were you expecting monkies to fly out of your butt for $50?

Re:Well.... (1)

eln (21727) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323930)

No, not really. My wife recently bought a pack of gum sized MP3 player, and it's really cool. It was only 50 bucks, but it had only 128 MB of space on it, so half a gig for $100 is a pretty good deal.

I think the iPod is a little too bulky to carry around, and I certainly don't envision any time where I'll need multiple hours of music at my disposal in my portable music player, so the little tiny MP3 players with less capacity are perfect in my opinion.

fp (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323741)

n+1th post, btw
APPLE SUCKS ASS WTF IS THE POINT OF A SCREENLESS MP3 PLAYER WITH HALF A GIG FOR 100 DOLLARS!!!

Coool! (3, Interesting)

rootus-rootus (151960) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323742)

This is a very good thing, now I can afford a mac ;-)

iCaramba (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323743)

Slashdot Poll - New iSomethingOrOther 8105 / 28%

Cant Steve Jobs hire a better marketing department and quite saying I and say we if he really means collaberation.

iCaramba - Bart Simpson 2005

1st post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323744)

yeah!

Mac Mini (4, Insightful)

deviator (92787) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323746)

Nice. These types of things at these pricepoints are the types of things that can change the world - every kid & teenager could end up with one, using their Mom & Dad's hand-me-down Keyboard/Video/Mouse.

Re:Mac Mini (5, Insightful)

rayde (738949) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323812)

i agree. most people have always agreed that mac os x is superior, but price has always been the sticky issue. with price becoming more realistic, perhaps apple can start winning back its market share.

i think this is just the beginning. if apple stays in this market, we'll see more powerful iterations of the mac mini in a similar price point with more powerful features down the road.

kudos apple!

Re:Mac Mini (1)

jm92956n (758515) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323898)

I understand $500 is a new low price for a Mac, but is it so low that they couldn't include a keyboard and a mouse?

First shuffle! (-1, Offtopic)

rjung2k (576317) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323747)

First post! (maybe)

But no display on the iPod Shuffle? WTF?

Re:First shuffle! (0, Troll)

prockcore (543967) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323862)


But no display on the iPod Shuffle? WTF?


From what I've read, there's no playlists on the iPod Shuffle. It just randomly plays songs. Knowing Apple, there's probably going to be just one button.. Play/Pause.

Gah (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323750)

An ipod with no screen. Mac zealots really WILL buy anything, won't they?

Yes, but... (2, Interesting)

Mitchell Mebane (594797) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323752)

Will Pages be MS Word compatible?

Re:Yes, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323783)

Engadget is saying it is compatible with Word files

More importantly... (1, Insightful)

pedestrian crossing (802349) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323804)

Will Pages be MS Word compatible?

More importantly, will it be OO.O compatible?

Re:Yes, but... (4, Informative)

Andy_R (114137) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323826)

Yes. From http://www.apple.com/iwork/

"Pages is compatible. It imports AppleWorks documents and imports and exports Microsoft Word documents. Want to share your documents online? Pages also offers the easiest way to create great looking PDF files. Pages makes it easy to share your work with others."

Re:Yes, but... (2, Insightful)

singularity (2031) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323831)

Given that both TextEdit (Apple's Notepad equivalent) and AppleWorks were as compatible as they could be (without MS revealing file specs), I would strongly guess it would be.

Re:Yes, but... (1)

slycrel (610300) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323887)

Yes, according to MacRumor (at keynote) reports.

Has to be said.... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323753)

the flash-based iPod is cool but damn it sure does look like a tampon.

iTampon maybe?

Re:Has to be said.... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323879)

For the average Slashdotter, a "tampon" is a personal hygiene (you know, hygiene?... oh, nevermind) device that "women" (you know, non-guys) use in places you'll never, ever see. Just FYI.

Re:Has to be said.... (1, Funny)

AvantLegion (595806) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323892)

Looking at the model on the www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/ page, I have to say, being her iTampon wouldn't be such a bad gig.

my thoughts.... (3, Funny)

the_mighty_$ (726261) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323755)

iHope iCan get one!

slashdotted already!?!?!?! (1)

Snowbeam (96416) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323756)

Cannot connec. You mean it's already slasdotted?

One More Thing! (0, Redundant)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323757)

Dont forget the iPod shuffle $99 for 512meg and $149 for 1 GB. Heck that is only a little more then a usb key chain. Finally an Ipod I can afford.

Re:One More Thing! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323806)

little more? i can get a 512mb usb keychain for 30 dollars. for 70 dollars i can get a 512mb mp3 player, WITH SCREEN, and EXPANDABLE with a memory stick. WTF? iRipoff is more like it

macteens blogged the whole thing (1)

gad_zuki! (70830) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323759)

For more details on the keynote, although they are hastily written.

coral cache here [nyud.net]

i'M iMpressed... (1)

j_cavera (758777) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323760)

...though I would hope for more capacity in the iShuffle. Anyone have pics? (FP!) - J

Re:i'M iMpressed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323803)

www.apple.com

Re:i'M iMpressed... (1)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323861)

is dead

those xservers are really impressive, aren't they?

new apple site (1)

zoftie (195518) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323764)

go to apple site and gawk at stuff , lots of cool things.
apple is back!
p.

the $500 computer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323766)

I don't particularly care about being compact with a dirt-cheap $500 machine. I say abandon the small size, make it bigger and save everyone a few more bucks.

No screen? (1, Insightful)

jacobcaz (91509) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323771)

Hmm, I like the price point, but I don't like the "no screen" bit. Part of the allure of the iPod is how easy the UI is to navigate and use. How well will you be able to navigate with no feedback?

Re:No screen? (2, Informative)

entrager (567758) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323838)

As the name suggests, the iPod Shuffle doesn't allow navigation, it just randomly plays songs.

Re:No screen? (5, Informative)

entrager (567758) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323903)

I should add that it's possible to have it play songs in a pre-set order, which you would define from within iTunes. You would just need to memorize the order.

let me get this out of the way (-1, Flamebait)

Johnathon_Dough (719310) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323773)

won't play games

not enough RAM

one butt^H^H^H oops no mouse.

Re:let me get this out of the way (1)

DigitalLau (661504) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323824)

use your PeeCee's mous and keyboard... and wile youre at it take that clunky piece of junk and play a game or two... child!

absolutely AMAzing (1)

DigitalLau (661504) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323777)

but where are the new Powerbooks?? where? did they get lost in the mail? Has Stevie "Wonder" forgotten them at home? *sigh*... time to open p the wallet again....

Hopefully. (2, Interesting)

BlackEyedSceva (798150) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323779)

If the new Ipod has the sound quality of a Ipod I might look into buying one. That is the main problem with small mp3 players today, yeah maybe it can hold 20 miliion hours of music, but it sounds like crap.

ouch (2, Insightful)

riceforlife (718172) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323781)

::kicks self real hard for not buying apple stock 12 months ago::

Let's get this outta the way... (1)

rampant mac (561036) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323784)

Holy SHIT.

My wallet just got substantially thinner.

Re:Let's get this outta the way... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323874)

Yes, Apple does soft intro on new updated i-wallet for 2005... thinner, more streamlined, and a little less powerful than last year's i-wallet :)

Re:Let's get this outta the way... (1)

javaxman (705658) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323935)

My wallet just got substantially thinner.

How? By a $499 Mac mini? By a $99 iPod Shuffle? A $79 iLife?

The truly remarkable thing is that even *I* could afford this stuff. There were absolutely no high-end Apple hardware announcements of any kind today. I can't spend over $700 on anything Steve introduced today. What's up with that?!?

MAC Mini nothing new (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323787)

There's already been a Mac Mini seen here:

http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Entex/MAC.htm

Certainly not as powerful and used magnetic cards for its programs. Looks neat though and I could imagine one of these in some early 70's sci-fi movie doubling as some sort of terminal.

Entex M-A-C Mini Computer (19xx, LED, 4 C batteries, Model# 6019)
MAC = Multi-functional Advanced Computer

Entex's 4K micro-computer and 4 function, 8-digit calculator. Came with many pre-programmed games, and even allowed you to program some of your own. It was also used to teach 8048/49 machine language. It uses magnetic cards to store data, and each card is readable/writable. A display key is used to read the output; its output can either be depicted by an overlay or displayed in byte-word binary. It can display numbers and letters and has musical output.

Redundant? (5, Funny)

timster (32400) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323788)

no wireless. Slower than a dell. Lame.

No screen? (1)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323791)

Then again it is Apple, and I'd be willing to give up the screen to know the quality was spot on. I've been eyeing those Creative Nuvos, but I've heard good and bad about them. Oh well, if I can mount it under Linux I'm sold :).

mini!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323793)

The most important announcement for me, is the Mac mini. I know hordes of Windows users (victims) willing to try that marveles piece of afordable mac wonder.

From iPod Shuffle website (5, Funny)

m_dob (639585) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323795)

2. Do not eat

http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/

Photos of the kit (1)

Rokewaju (253296) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323799)

Spymac http://www.spymac.com/ [spymac.com] has photos of the new gear. Maybe time to bust open the piggy bank

$499 Mac? Damn (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323805)

Well now that's it's true...damn, even I might buy one!

I'm begining to get the feeling that Steve Jobs might be trying to reposition Apple. Hardware is a mugs game, after all. We all know what happened the last time Apple tried to licence the Mac to clone builders..but what if they tried it now?

It seems to me that over the last two or three years Apple has been working to reposition itself from a hardware company to a more diverse place, where the OS and the services it offers (E.g. iTunes) are what matters more than the hardware. The $499 Mac would seem to enforce that point. The idea is obviously to try and penetrate into the mid range market; make the Mac an everymans computer. If they can do it, and if they can increase their market share, they would certainly seem to have enough room to manovour and licence the Mac to clone builders again..

Wow (1)

ericdano (113424) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323808)

Apple does it again. Amazing. Mini Mac will blow any little Shuttle box away.

Amazing that Apple is the only company to come up with amazing products like it does....

Re:Wow (1)

Moustache N Tits (828608) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323899)

Mini Mac will blow any little Shuttle box away.

totally different markets. The Mini Mac doesn't have anything you can upgrade... the video card is weak (for what little gaming there IS on a mac). Plus, this is a MAC, not a PC, so I don't know why you even think there will be any competition between the two... two totally different markets. But I do like it.. because it will get some PC people to convert.

Amazing that Apple is the only company to come up with amazing products like it does....

you weren't paying any attention at CES were you...

Wow (0, Redundant)

choas (102419) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323809)

This is gonna be one expensive year (although less than I feared)

This is going to be SO good!

6x6x2.5 inch computer running Macos X! (1)

JQuick (411434) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323810)

Add a USB ethernet to make dual homed firewall?
Add external Firewire storage to make big file server?
Wow!
Great price point to introduce non Apple users to the platform.
What a great box.

Re: 6x6x2.5 inch computer running Macos X! (1)

burns210 (572621) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323897)

It has 40 - 80 gigs, so that is quite a lot. Add a stick of ram and you got a badass little server.

Nice (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323813)

Apple exec 1: iGot an iIdea. Let's make an iPod with iShit for memory and sell it for half the iPrice of our device that has 50 times the memory.

Apple exec 2: Let's do this iThing.

Cheap mac? (4, Funny)

Cyn (50070) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323833)

Head exploding.

Pages? (1)

th1ckasabr1ck (752151) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323835)

Why not iPages? Seems strange to make iEverythingElse and not iPages.

Re:Pages? (1)

polyhue (38042) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323922)

It's not iKeynote is it? I think they separate their "productivity" apps this way.

Cheap Macs == Parent Machines (1)

Saint Aardvark (159009) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323840)

My parents are looking for a new machine to replace their current Win98 box (shudder). I've been trying to persuade them for a while now to get a Mac, but they've been put off by the price.

Well, between this announcement and Microsoft's [microsoft.com] latest [microsoft.com] security fixes [microsoft.com] (including a fix for the HTML Help cross-scripting vulnerability [mitre.org] , yay!), I think I'll finally be able to persuade them.

No, OS X isn't perfectly secure, nor is it Free -- both important considerations. But it will help keep my parents from inadvertantly polluting the Internet with spam, viruses, and trojans, and do a lot better job of it than Windows.

Well, I'm in (1)

the Man in Black (102634) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323843)

Apple, you've finally sold me. I live in a one bedroom apartment with no office and no room for a full desk. The Mac Mini would be perfect for me. I can plug it into my TV and use a wireless Bluetooth keyboard and mouse from the couch. I'm completely sold. I wonder if the graphics card is poerful enough for gaming? Possibly not. Even still, as a word processor/iTunes machine/mp3 storage/IM box, this sounds just perfect. Sign me right up.

Re:Well, I'm in (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323921)

Except for no bluetooth....

Here we go! (1)

Mindjiver (71) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323846)

Lame, no wifi, less space than a Nomad

Now I have seen everything... (2, Funny)

litac (617509) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323849)

Take a look at the bottom of the http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/ [apple.com] iPod Shuffle page on the Apple website. It actually says "Do Not Eat iPod shuffle".

Apple is so secret....... (1)

BondGamer (724662) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323850)

.....that their own web designers didn't know Appleworks was upgraded to iWork. Mac Mini lists Appleworks as included software.

Perfect Terminal (5, Interesting)

hbuschme (751015) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323852)

The Mac Mini will be a perfect X-Terminal to use with a Linux box in another room. You'll have a silent and small box on your desk and the fat and loud server is down in the basement. Great.

Screenless IPod ain't so bad (2, Interesting)

Mablung (723714) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323854)

I dropped my IPod in a puddle a few months after I got it, and after that the screen would come and go. If you've got all your settings the way you like them and you just randomize your whole playlist, it works just fine.

iPod Shuffle (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323863)

and mac mini first pictures [gizmodo.com]

Cat names (1)

allanc (25681) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323869)

I finally got around to plowing through Niven's Known Space series of books.

Anybody else want an OSX version named 'Kzin' to come out?

Just me? (2, Interesting)

yak_7 (318403) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323876)

Just me, or has apple been slashdotted?

Never owned a Mac in my life but I'm getting one.. (5, Interesting)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323877)

The Mac Mini looks like it's the thing for me. I've never owned a Mac in my life - I've used a few in my time and I've been to a few Mac Expos with Mac-owning friends - but I think that's about to change.

This is the Mac for all of us who said Macs were too expensive. For around £400 (yeah, Apple just like the rest of them loves screwing non-Americans when it comes to exchange rates) I'll have a nice little toy that'll give me some first-hand experience of MacOS 10.4 plus my girlfriend will have a easy-to-use machine that she can play with when I'm hogging my PC.

Hopefully, it'll work with the PS/2 keyboards and mice that I've got lying around, if not then I suppose that I'll be shelling out for USB ones but that's no great loss.

Mark my words: these babies are going to sell like hot cakes.

Headless iMac (1)

l0wland (463243) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323883)

Here's a scoop [nyud.net] .

Say... (1)

Cyn (50070) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323884)

The iPod Shuffle is pack-of-gum sized, no screen, weighs less than an ounce... and no screen.

Let me guess - it also is pack of gum sized, has no screen, and weighs less than an ounce? And has no screen, and is pack of gum sized, and weighs less than an ounce? And weighs less than an ounce, and is pack of gum sized, and has no screen? ... etc.

In other news - this does actually price compete with some of those flash based players afaik (though I haven't really priced them in some time) - good way to stranglehold people into buying from iTunes (can't blame them).

Watch the server melt.... (1)

mooreBS (796555) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323888)

The Apple Store is down. Guess you'd better call 'em.

What about the screen? (1)

rograndom (112079) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323894)

The iPod Shuffle is pack-of-gum sized, no screen,, weighs less than an ounce... and no screen

That's all well and good, but does it have a screen?

No-button mouse... (1)

Ryano (2112) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323896)

...in fact no mouse at all with the Mac Mini. Perhaps the following line from Apple's Mac Mini [apple.com] page was intended to answer the Slashdot crowd's inevitable response:

And yes, Mac mini will take advantage of your two-button USB mouse with scroll-wheel and your favorite USB keyboard. Just plug them in.

Pictures online at the Apple Store (2, Informative)

PenguinRadio (69089) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323900)

http://www.apple.com/store

but it is crashing pretty hard. Basically 1/3 of a cube. Smooth looking. Ports in back, CD slit in front and that's about it.

Bet you could make a cool cluster out of these.

Links to New Products (1)

notmuch (663097) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323906)

iLife'05 http://www.apple.com/ilife/
iWork'05 http://www.apple.com/iwork/
Mac Mini http://www.apple.com/macmini/
iPod Shuffle http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/

Way to go - Apple Rocks

ThinkSecret (1)

AC-x (735297) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323907)

I bet ThinkSecret feel vindicated (tho not as vindicated as they'll feel if Apple's lawsuit fails!)

My gosh that thing is small (1)

JHromadka (88188) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323909)

The Mac mini weighs 2.7 pounds. That's less than any Apple laptop (granted without the LCD). I see people taking this in the car and plugging them into those LCD screens. I'll be buying one as a general purpose computer and maybe to try out Tiger Server when it comes out. As for the iPod shuffle, I lost my USB stick, so this would replace it nicely.

Not as dumb as you think... (4, Insightful)

moofdaddy (570503) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323913)

There will be a lot of bitching about the new iPod not having a screen. However I say that apple has done it once again. You have to understand the market for the new iPod, it is not meant to hold your entire music folder, its not meant to go with you on long drives.

The new iPod is for the runners, for the people who take it with them to the gym, etc. These are people who wouldn't be navigating songs anyway, they just toss on a playlist, hit shuffle and go. This is exactly what the new ipod does, with only 200 songs, you don't really need to select your songs.

If you want a display, if you want to hold other stuff, this iPod isn't for you, get the other ones. If you just want to listen to music while you work out, then this is exactly what you want.

Let me be the first to say... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323924)

"No wireless. Less space than a nomad." No display. "Lame."

Great! (0, Flamebait)

Pres. Ronald Reagan (659566) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323929)

With apple innovating so much and putting so much thought into style, I guess we can see why Macs are "the" gay computer, and will stay that way for years to come.

Mini Mac (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11323931)

The small size is intriguing... I can imagine that 10 years from now, people will carry their computer around in their pocket, and plug into a display/keyboard kiosk at home or work or wherever.

Maybe then the mongo desktop systems we have today will seem like the old room-filling "Big Iron".

iPod Shuffle Just What I Need (1)

Synesthesiatic (679680) | more than 9 years ago | (#11323939)

The iPod shuffle is EXACTLY what I need. I already have a regular iPod, but I need a flash player for jogging. Obviously I won't be screwing around and looking for a specific song while I'm running, so I won't miss the screen. This is perfect!

I wouldn't get one for my main player though...

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