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N-Gage No Longer Relevant

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the what-if-they-threw-a-console-and-no-one-came? dept.

Portables (Games) 248

Spong.com (via Kotaku) has a story discussing a dire portent for the N-Gage. The Entertainment & Leisure Software Publishers Association sales charts will no longer reflect N-Gage sales. From the article: "The N-Gage chart, though still produced, is of little interest to anyone. Sales of the machine and its software have failed to make any impact on the market at all. We still keep sales charted and are available on monthly, quarterly and annual reports, though we have dropped the platform from the ELSPA chart following a lack of interest."

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Premature post-mortem? (5, Interesting)

Lindsay Lohan (847467) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339155)

Sales of the machine and its software have failed to make any impact on the market at all.
I'd heard that a new version of the N-Gage hardware will be introduced before Nov. 2005 - possibly as early as September - although the platform will remain backwards compatible throughout. Although they will admit to slow sales [gamespot.com], sounds like Nokia is not quite ready to judge the N-Gage as a success or failure.

I remember the same fatal pronouncements [win2000mag.com] for Windows CE... four years ago.

Then again, N-Gage really could be a dying platform.

Re:Premature post-mortem? (4, Informative)

mgs1000 (583340) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339287)

Actually, Nokia just eliminated [yahoo.com] a bunch of the people working on N-Gage stuff.

They are about to pull the plug on the whole damn thing.

Re:Premature post-mortem? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339328)


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Re:Premature post-mortem? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339345)

Actually, Nokia just eliminated a bunch of the people working on N-Gage stuff.

That article does not say they were elimintated from the N-Gage project specifically.
Nokia Corp., the world's biggest mobile phone maker, said Tuesday it plans to lay off "a few hundred" research and development workers globally, including up to 250 in Finland, in a move to cut costs
Sounds like a good business move to me.

Re:Premature post-mortem? (2, Interesting)

Doomdark (136619) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339408)

That article does not say they were elimintated from the N-Gage project specifically.

Of course not. Why would Nokia give out that specific information? The cuts are announced to please the investors; specifying any more details would have no benefit for the company. But it's pretty obvious where the cuts are done, considering what multimedia products company is involved in, and especially lackluster sales.

Re:Premature post-mortem? (2, Funny)

Waffle Iron (339739) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339338)

I'd heard that a new version of the N-Gage hardware will be introduced before Nov. 2005

Let me guess... it will be called the "HO-Gage".

Choo Choo! (2, Funny)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339476)

Let me guess... it will be called the "HO-Gage".

Well, then it sounds like it would be perfect for Choo Choo Rocket!

Or perhaps a port of Railroad Tycoon.

Re:Premature post-mortem? (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339478)

N-Gage's problem is marketing, IMO.

Instead of selling it as a gaming system that can make phone calls, they need to market it as a cell phone that can play games, of a higher quality than other cells.

There's just no way in the world it can compete against DS and PSP, at least not on the merits of a gaming console.

Re:Premature post-mortem? (1)

poot_rootbeer (188613) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339534)

I'd heard that a new version of the N-Gage hardware will be introduced before Nov. 2005

Didn't they already try that? And wasn't the effect on the market essentially negligible?

Didn't see that coming (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339159)

Oh, wait, yes I did. The n-gage sucks.

Right... (1)

IsoRashi (556454) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339160)

N-gage not relevant? How is this news?

Your sig (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339500)

OT - Just curious, but who is 6093389293@vtext.com in your sig, and why spam them?

Re:Your sig (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339582)

Thanks for asking. It's my bitch of an ex-girlfriend's SMS phone number, and she has to pay 5c for each incoming message.

She broke up with me a few months ago, didn't return three of my CDs (which were mine, I bought them for her, and now the relationship is over I think I'm entitled to them back, don't you?), and it turned out a week before we broke up she had gone out to dinner with the guy who's now her boyfriend.

Even during the relationship, it was always about her. I'd have to take her out to dinner, bring her flowers, all of that crap, and she rarely reciprocated.

I think some payback's in order, don't you?

Well duh. (4, Insightful)

AltGrendel (175092) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339195)

What they probably should have done is license something that was alreay in the market, like a GBA or something.

I couldn't see how a new platform like this would hit anything other than a small, unsustainable, niche market.

Re:Well duh. (4, Informative)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339524)

they sort of did it. they 'licensed' their own platform, series 60 - and built the system over it. n-gage is a strong machine, not because of games(which have just gotten to good level of playability, actually - even reporters who have always hated ngage before have had to admit that), but because of all the series60 software available for it.

from irc to web browsers to aim to rss readers to python support(can you script your gba with python? DIDN'T THINK SO!).

does nintendo offer a sdk for download for free? no.
does sony offer sdk for psp for normal people? no.

nokia does, symbian may be a bitch of a platform to get into but it's open for everyone to get into, to port emulators, to code games for. you want to write a rss reader in python with c++ components? fine, do it, you're free to do just that.

plus, some of the best games available for it are not 'n-gage' games, they're series60 games.

(..and I doubt it being very expensive for them to produce, as hardware wise it is almost identical to the 3650, with the difference that n-gage has more ram)

Re:Well duh. (2, Insightful)

countach (534280) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339591)

Exactly right. N-gage is a bloody brilliant phone, at a cheap price, that also happens to play some damned addictive games with full 3D graphics. Even without the games, n-gage is the best value phone on the market. But some of these games beat GB-Advance hands down. They may not beat Nintendo-DS, but hey this is a phone. You can actually stick the thing in your pocket.

Re:Well duh. (1)

L7_ (645377) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339664)

plus, some of the best games available for it are not 'n-gage' games, they're series60 games.

Actually, Palladium Games Rifts was set to come out only on the N-Gage. It was the only phone title that I've ever looked forward to, and the only reason that I visited the N-Gage booth at e3 (but I also checked to see if they had bomberman in a pvp setup, which they didn't). I've since stopped following the development of that game after playing it at e3. No matter what K Siembieda says, it does not hold true to the original intent of the p&p game.

Netcraft confirms! (4, Funny)

krbvroc1 (725200) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339206)

Netcraft confirms it is not relevant. Meanwhile, on Slashdot, its irrelevancy is featured on the front page.

Irrelevant News for News. Stuff that doesn't matter anymore.

Big News (2, Insightful)

onewing (754420) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339210)

Over priced phone that has no must own games is not revevant in the hand held market?
Big surprised there, especially with Sony and Nintendo battling for the same market.

This is news... how? (1)

mekkab (133181) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339211)

I mean, who cares?! Its a stupid platform that got hyped and then nobody cared about it...

oh wait.

Did I just prove the article, right there?

But seriously: This was an example of convergence that nobody really needed. I'm sure this would go down like gangbusters in Japan (cram as many features into the phone and then cram a few extra)

But this 'game+phone' doesn't tread water in the US. USians just want phones that are phones. There is already a backlash about those who have cameras.

Its like the Nintendo "Game+watch": Yeah, right.

Re:This is news... how? (1)

Snowmit (704081) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339303)

It's very exciting that you've worked out the market with your brilliant analysis. Perhaps you should tell this to companies like Gameloft (who made $25million US in 2004) so that they can escape their sinking ship.

Don't mistake a bad product for a bad market. Games are alive and well on cellphones, just not on N-Gage.

Japan even hated it. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339391)

No offense, but the phones in Japan had "N-Gage"-Like machines nearly 5 years ago. They are so far ahead of us on their phones now, the only thing that would "go down like gangbusters" over there right now is a 4 Ghz Intel running XP. Half their phones are already running various OS's with everything you could think of added onto them.

Their market is entirely different and light years ahead of everyone else. What is strange, is none of it makes it way OUT of Japan. We're still ooing and ahhing over the Raz0r phone, when they had that years and years ago. Old news to them. Nothing special.

Re:This is news... how? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339608)

Actually, we want phones that work, reliably, all the time, even in buildings. There was a time when TDMA and some of the better phones delivered on this, but the recent push to GSM has led to very spotty coverage and highly unreliable signal quality even in major cities. You can have a free phone, sure enough, but even the $500 ones don't work any better. We need to stop changing signalling standards every 5 years so that a reliable network can be built, then make sure that every cubic millimeter of phone is dedicated to optimizing its performance as a voice telephone rather than adding more features that might help the carriers make more money but that very few people actually need or want. Camera phones, I'm talking about you. Gaming phones, you too. And don't get me started on customizable polyphonic ring tones. I don't really care what the ringer sounds like, I care that when I answer the call I can understand what the other person is saying. Today's phones and networks, at least in the US, fall far short.

Re:This is news... how? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339757)

* Actually, we want phones that work, reliably, all the time, even in buildings. There was a time when TDMA and some of the better phones delivered on this, but the recent push to GSM has led to very spotty coverage and highly unreliable signal quality even in major cities. You can have a free phone, sure enough, but even the $500 ones don't work any better. We need to stop changing signalling standards every 5 years so that a reliable network can be built, then make sure that every cubic millimeter of phone is dedicated to optimizing its performance as a voice telephone rather than adding more features that might help the carriers make more money but that very few people actually need or want. Camera phones, I'm talking about you. Gaming phones, you too. And don't get me started on customizable polyphonic ring tones. I don't really care what the ringer sounds like, I care that when I answer the call I can understand what the other person is saying. Today's phones and networks, at least in the US, fall far short.*

well, the operators don't want or can't provide a proper network for the cells to work in. around here the gsm call quality and coverage has been good enough for it to not matter for the past 10 years(it just works, really, and the phone side of things is pretty 'perfect'). if you're not underground it pretty much just works(unless your phone is physically broken).

if i wanted to keep using 'just a phone' i could be still using nokia 3110(from 1997).

This headline is about 2 years late... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339223)

Let's face it, this is the single biggest IT blunder in recent times.

After capturing a large portion of the cellular phone market, Nokia decides to stop developing new phones and build a portable game device - without a 3d chip. Any company trying to break into portable gaming without a 3d chipset, of any kind, is stupid, but a company that would divert resources from its core business, is just plain retarded.

Good job Nokia. You are now a company that makes both phones and games that no one wants.

Re:This headline is about 2 years late... (1)

Doomdark (136619) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339494)

Any company trying to break into portable gaming without a 3d chipset, of any kind, is stupid, but a company that would divert resources from its core business, is just plain retarded.

On that stamp-sized display, 3d would have been as foolish as the whole concept of gaming phone... who cares about 3d there? This is not to say N-Gage was of much interest in the first place, but adding 3d wouldn't have changed anything, in grand scheme of things.

Now, as to "core business", cell phones are becoming commodity (like PCs)... there's nothing else to do with phones, except lower prices, OR go the kitchen-sink route of adding all kinds of funky new "features". There's really no huge resource need on basic phone design side. Plus, resources involved in N-Gage design weren't all that huge in the first place... hype has been much bigger, and lead many people to overestimate Nokia's efforts.

Re:This headline is about 2 years late... (2, Interesting)

countach (534280) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339675)

Hello? N-gage does full 3D polygon graphics. It runs a brilliant version of Pro-Skater, which is a full 3-D world for your skateboard. You can't run pro-skater on Game boy because it has no 3D graphics, but n-gage runs it brilliantly.

biggest IT blunder in recent times??? (1)

endoboy (560088) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339519)

were you asleep thru the entire dot-bomb??

surely the N-gage is less of a blunder than, say, the TimeWarner-AOL merger???

what a shame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339224)

Gamestop has them on sale for $0, after rebates of course. I was going to pick one up but I don't feal like paying yet another bill. I did like the fact that you only have to agree to use the service for 180 days rather then the 2 year's like most places want you to sign up for.

ngage is a prime example (2, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339239)

of what not to do.

they had a great idea but half assed it in every way from the beginning.

underpowered and a crappy phone! then come out with a second generation version and piss off the customers you already have.

nope, n-gage was a prime example of the engineers having to bastardize something so the suits were able to get their "price point" instead of a quality product.

Re:ngage is a prime example (1)

countach (534280) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339633)

Underpowered? What does that mean? It's a series 60 Symbian phone that runs a whole ton of apps. It runs the same software as other Nokia top of the line phones. Battery life is excellent. What's crappy about it?

Re:ngage is a prime example (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339765)

have you even tried playing a game on one?

first off they do stupid things like try and put tony hawk on it... O yay 5 frames per second refresh rate! On a device they advertise is a game system first with "oh phone capabilities!"

sorry but a gameboy advance, made from older technology has 5 times the processing power and 300 times the battery life.

Of course N-GAGE isn't relevant (1)

TheStick (847894) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339245)

N-gage really is a bad gaming console. Bad battery life, bad graphics (compared to the GBA), very expensive games (50 euros is way too much for a Tomb Raider port...), and the ergonomy sucks too (try playing an hour with that thing...) What can I say, you make a bad product, people don't buy it and people don't care about it.

Not always.... (1)

lucason (795664) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339655)

"What can I say, you make a bad product, people don't buy it and people don't care about it."

Well I guess common sense prevailed this time. However, this is not always the case. Usually if someone has a crappy product they stick a phone in it.
Or if that crappy product happens to BE a phone, well, sticking a camera in it or in this case a gaming console usually does the jedi-mind-trick on at least part of the population.

I guess karma can only be stretched so far.

Who would have thought... (2, Insightful)

Jaidon (843279) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339248)

...that a portable costing 400 bucks with games that cost 50 bucks or more and also required one to have a cell contract for probably an additional 50 bucks per month if they wanted online gameplay wouldn't be popular? Not to mention the games were horrible PS1 era ripoffs that were fuzzy and hard to play with the unit's layout.

Just for reference, if you wanted to get the same effect without straining your eyes, wrists, and fingers, try throwing a few hundred dollar bills into a fire while fornicating yourself with a rusty screwdriver. That's pretty much what happened to anyone who bought an N-Gage anyway.

Re:Who would have thought... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339279)

You forgot to mention the fact that in order to have access to some of the newer features, customers would have to purchase the redesigned model they came out with just about a year into distribution...turing your rusty screwdriver into a rusty bolt cutter...OUCH!

was it ever? (0, Redundant)

filtur (724994) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339251)

Was it every relevant? Or of interest to anyone? It's pretty hard to stand up to Nintendo, and now Sony's getting into the handheld game.

What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339252)

It was relevant?

Vertical Screen for games??? yuck (1)

Saratoga C++ (456351) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339271)

My one biggest problem with the N-Gage was simply they way the oriented the screen, If you want to have any 3d/scroller games you want a horizontal screen. Haveing it be vertical just means that you can play galiga with more stacks of enemies.

It wasn't designed to be a game console, it was designed to be a phone. Thats where it failed. If your going to dual up a machine at least put some design workings into how your going to accomplish both functions. Everyone I talked to said they couldn't see themselves playing on this because there can't be that many decent games out that use such a small screen (save older arcade games and tetris)

design (1)

rmoonsong (848924) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339277)

I believe it was the n-gage's design that killed it. Not bad for a handheld but terrible design for a phone. Also you had to take it apart to insert the game cartridge. I tried playing one at EB and it seemed like you actually had to RTFM to know how to get the game started. Not a problem for me but for the target audience this would be a pain.

Jackass of all trades and master of none, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339348)

That what N-gage was...

Re:design (1)

rmoonsong (848924) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339350)

also the buttons were horrific. CMIIW but i don't think the N-gage had a button labeled as "start", you had to guess which one it was.

Penny Arcade said it best... (3, Funny)

MLopat (848735) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339317)

I think this comic [penny-arcade.com] from Penny Arcade pretty much sums up how much we all care about N-Gage

Re:Penny Arcade said it best... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339409)

Just wondering... is Penny Arcade ever funny?

Re:Penny Arcade said it best... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339442)

Its a witty sense of humor, you probably wouldn't get it. Go suck a dick.

Re:Penny Arcade said it best... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339535)

PA is "witty?" It doesn't take much to please you, does it? Other than rough anal sex, of course.

Re:Penny Arcade said it best... (1)

MLopat (848735) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339677)

Well apparently 3 million readers think its funny. You've never made that many people laugh or want to return to your website. I tell you what, if you don't get the jokes, post them to "Ask Slahdot" and we'll help you interpret them.

Now go tell your mom I'll be over soon.

Re:Penny Arcade said it best... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339707)

And probably five times as many think Britney Spears is a goddess, and even more thought communism would lead to Utopia. So unless you accept those two as fact as well your argument fails.

Re:Penny Arcade said it best... (1)

MLopat (848735) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339784)

Some people need an idol, some need a leader, and some appreciate witty humor. You seem to need to get laid. I'll pass your mom over when I'm done.

Re:Penny Arcade said it best... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339791)

Ahh... the standard Matrix 2 defense: if you don't like it, its because you don't understand it.

Now I know it sucks... cheers!

Take the long view (1)

countach (534280) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339357)

Nokia is in this one for the long haul. Everyone knows that people play games on their mobile phones. Only thing is that n-gage can play much better games.

BTW, the newer games that have recently come out, are bloody excellent games. The phone itself is the cheapest way to get a series 60 phone. Don't write this one off, Nokia is going to pull through on this one.

Anyone played the games? (1)

Dekks (808541) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339372)

I was surprised to recently read a few favourable reviews of several N-Gage games, the authors set out biased against them and actually ended up admitting they are quite good. Shame the overall product sucks as the games are very enjoyable seemed to be the summary. Will anyone own up to actually having one comment?

Hard to believe... (1)

CompuSwerve (792986) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339385)

But the commercials were so good! What the heck happened? Oh, I know. It was the N. The device can still live to see full market acceptance. Advice to Nokia:

1) Sell it to Apple.

2) They'll rename it to the iGage.

3) ???

4) Profit!

n-gage! (1)

imrec (461877) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339386)

Data has been trying to tell this to Picard for years...

- filtering all but >2 funny -

What is N-gage? (1)

1shooter (185361) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339423)

I assume it is some game platform but I'm not sure. Having not remembered ever hearing about it, I can say with certainty that I won't be missing it when it disappears.

Why are you shocked? (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339426)

We all knew the N-Gage was an experiment that was doomed to fail.

It did, however, plant the seeds of "convergence" in peoples minds. Why carry a cellphone, gameboy, and PDA, if there was one device that could replace all three.

The fact is though, it's nearly impossible to introduce a new gaming platform. The developer mindshare is so important. Noone buys a platform with no games. It took Sony a long time to get a decent enough library for the PSX to make it a contender. It's similarly taken MSFT a long time to line up some really good titles for the XBox.

Nokia never really had a chance. Looks like they're sticking to their guns, though. If they're smart, they'll start making a whole line of n-gage compatible phones (since we know the games can be played on non n-gages), at a whole range of prices. B/W vs Color displays, etc..

That or, they should really look into something like integrating an existing platform, ie; GBA, DS or PSP, into a cellphone. The games are already there for it.

Re:Why are you shocked? (1)

threv (839879) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339604)

"It took Sony a long time to get a decent enough library for the PSX to make it a contender." right, w/the lack of good games at launch & w/in the following months (not counting warhawk, destruction derby, twisted metal, jumping flash, toshinden..) err wait, maybe that's why it actually succeeded early? the wealth of titles. "Why carry a cellphone, gameboy, and PDA, if there was one device that could replace all three." my gameboy plays games better than anything else portable does. i'm not about to get rid of it for a 'convergence' device. the gameboy's layout is already optimized for maximum gaming. why add buttons/'functionality'? it will ruin the experienc.e

Re:Why are you shocked? (2, Informative)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339802)

I don't know what world you were living in where PSX succeeded early. IIRC, it launched with Ridge Racer and Toshinden. It took two years for it to have 34 titles. There was so much competition back then, people just held on to their SNES and Genesis', not knowing whether to bet on PSX, Saturn, Jaguar, 3DO, CD-I, CD32, or wait for N64..

The PSX dragged along with lackluster titles, terrible loading times, and people were ready to write it off until a little something called Final Fantasy VII saved it.

Luckily for sony, 3DO, Saturn, Jaguar and CDI all sucked worse than it did, and they got a good couple years head start on the N64. If Nintendo had N64 ready when PSX launched, I doubt Sony would be where they are today.

A big kick in the nuts was it's port of Mortal Kombat III, which would be arcade-perfect. It was taking a couple minutes to load each round. The SNES started outselling it.

my 5 cents (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339443)

The designers of the ngage should be shot at sight, just like that, no trial. Even more, everybody who owns one should be sentenced for life, for being _that_ stupid!

awkwardness exemplified (1)

karnifex (724937) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339511)

They lost me when they eliminated the sidetalking feature. Now I look like everyone else, instead of an obtuse fool with a chunk of plastic stuck against his head. (sob)

Store demo's helped to kill this product (1)

Augusto (12068) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339552)

I wanted to give this a fair chance, since if you think about it, a cell phone and a game console don't sound like such a bad idea (this is before I realized how stupid you looked when you used it as a phone).

So I go to the local EB games/gamestop, where I don't buy the consoles but I can at least see a demo. OMG! I'm a very technical person, and I'm not allergic to complicated interfaces, but I couldn't even get the game started. This thing had some weird game selection demos and once I got into the demo startup screen I couldn't even start the game. I tried this at several stores, so I don't think it was a defect!

I forget the name of the game, it was some game that I've seen before, with a character that looked like a clown or a court jester ...

Anyways, if you have a product that even the demo is hard to use, you have no chance. Compare this with the Nintendo demos they have at Best Buy, etc. It's intuitive and fun. N-Gage was cumbersome, ugly and it makes you wonder who in the world came up with it's design.

Re:Store demo's helped to kill this product (2, Insightful)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339657)

The game is Pandemonium!

Of course, once you know how to use the device it isn't that bad.

It just costs too much. They charge more for N-Gage games than for GBA games, and most are of a lesser quality. Now it has to face off against PSP and DS.

They need to relabel it as a cell-phone that plays games, and sell it at the Verizon store, not EB or GameStop. If they insist on marketing it as a console, they have to square off against Sony and Nintendo, and will get their balls handed to them.

I actually do hope they pull it out. Competition in the gaming market is good, we need more than one or two handheld platforms.

This is not about model trains (1)

Slashdolt (166321) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339559)

Was I the only one that thought they were going to stop making n-guage trains? I realize that HO scale was always more popular, but this headline really scared me.

Yeesh.

Re:This is not about model trains (1)

crow (16139) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339781)

Yup, that was my reaction to the headline.

Personally, I like the LEGO trains, which are almost O-gauge.

But to the topic on hand, it seems to me that our reaction indicates that product hasn't been successfully marketed, or we wouldn't have had that reaction.

do sms/online orders count? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339572)

of course they don't count, they can't measure them... but cheapo, sms or online bought, games are probably the biggest sellers on it.

do free games count? nah.. didn't think so.

s60 is pretty diverse as far as software goes.

An interesting story (5, Funny)

The_Whole_Fn_Show (767848) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339599)

My brother was telling me about a friend of his that works for GameStop (in the Cleveland, OH area).

Apparently, they were the leading store of N-Gages sold, with 1. It caught some guy's eye as he was walking out of the store, so he decided he'd buy it on a whim. That guy returned it a week later.

So, with one returned unit, that store still had the most N-Gage sales in the Cleveland area.

A sprinkling of salt into the wound... (1)

cbrichar (819941) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339661)

I hope Nokia's marketing people will be up to the task of fielding all those calls from panicked hobbyists worried that the n-gauge model trains are waning in popularity.

Of course it isn't! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339776)

The Next Generation finished in 1994. "N-Gage" hasn't been relevent for 11 years!

ngage... gone the way of the amigia... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11339792)

only problem with the subject is.... there are no die hard ngage fans to keep it alive ;-)

Lame N-gage Jokes (1)

evillamer (839976) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339800)

Dis-ngage N-gage Q.uits D.evelopment N(o)-gage New advert: "This is where I throw my N-gage out of the window" Are you talking with a Taco-bell in your hand? You mean the newer version of N-gage has no FM Radio? No mp3 player out of the box? Are we in ancient history or what?

DEAD BEFORE IT WENT GOLD! (2, Insightful)

enigmals1 (667526) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339808)

The whole N-Gage thing was dead before the product hit the shelves! Especially considering it's size, it's a mediocre compromise of technologies at best.

That thing is basically analogous to a gamer buying a motherboard with everything integrated like a bid'ness PC. Your phone, PDA, and gaming system are all lumped into one...that means so are all the features and upgrade paths. No thank you. I'll stick to separate components if I want a portable game system. Or wait for a palm PC with a nice graphics chipset/card.

Hi, this is Joe from Nokia's ad-dept.. (1)

newr00tic (471568) | more than 9 years ago | (#11339818)

#
The phone goes off in CellTimes' ad department:

-CTAD-receptionist: ..Hello?

--Caller: Hi, this is Joe from 'Nokia PubRel'. I was wondering what happened to the last three "n-gage" ads that we submitted for display in your paper?

-CTAD-rec: Well, we never reciev.. oh, hold on; a quick search found those msg's in our spam-bin.. We get so much _irrelevant_ mail these days; and it seems our spam filter has been set to block mail containing, -amongst others-, the word "n-gage" in the subject line, you know how it is..

--Caller: Those msg's said "from Nokia" in the subject! ...

-CTAD-rec: ...Oh, ..Well, our security guy says, that that word has been blocked too...

*CLICK*

#
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