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Texas Goes After Student Spammer

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the no-pardons dept.

Spam 161

A number of people wrote in with this story: "Count Texas in the growing list of states fighting spammers with CAN-SPAM. Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott filed the lawsuits today, charging a University of Texas student (and a cohort in California) with sending out millions of unsolicited commercial emails under the pseudonyms PayPerAction and Leadplex, among others. Spamhaus rates PayPerAction the #4 spammers in the world."

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Better not mess with Texas (4, Funny)

elecngnr (843285) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360722)

They still have the death penalty in Texas, right?

Re:Better not mess with Texas (3, Funny)

isometrick (817436) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360902)

You're telling me! I was just sitting on the can reading Slashdot, and right after the words "Texas Goes After Student ..." I was running out the door flailing with a trail of TP dragging behind me.

I didn't specifically remember doing anything wrong, but the targeting of the title was a bit too close for my brain in the early morning!

Damn you, "a number of people", damn you to hell!

Re:Better not mess with Texas (-1, Flamebait)

woodsrunner (746751) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360939)

...it's already a mess!

Yes, (-1, Offtopic)

wiredog (43288) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360966)

but only if you're poor or non-white.

hah (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360993)

That's like saying "Do they still commit crimes?" and answering "Yes, but only if you're poor and non-white."

Ignorance is astounding.

Re:Yes, (3, Informative)

isometrick (817436) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361021)

Actually, almost a third [state.tx.us] of the people on death row are white. I can't say anything about their financial status, though.

Re:Yes, (-1, Troll)

hackstraw (262471) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361631)

So 33% on death row are white, but 71% of the population is white. Seems like a representative sample.

Re:Yes, (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11361661)

http://prisonpolicy.org/graphs/murderrates.shtml [prisonpolicy.org]

Looks like they are underrepresented on death row, actually.

Re:Yes, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11361695)

Ever think that maybe people from more poverty stricken backgrounds would end up on death row more....

Re:Yes, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11361906)

That's quite the issue, not race in fact. Black people committing more crimes per capita including homicides may be a result of poverty, but then nobody should be surprised that they end up on death row more often. Common sense would allow you to understand this.

Re:Better not mess with Texas (1)

SpongeBobLinuxPants (840979) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360975)

"Some states are eliminating the death penalty. Our state's putting in an express lane."

Re:Better not mess with Texas (1)

first.last (751698) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361474)

FUCKIN-A WE DO!

Better yet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11361603)

Castration for salvation!

Re:Better not mess with Texas (1)

paullush (767354) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361691)

Hanging, drawing and quartering is too good for spamming scum

http://www.richard.clark32.btinternet.co.uk/hdq.ht ml

One of the better punishments that the English used (and shamefully, outlawed)

Re:Better not mess with Texas (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11361805)

You don't even need the official death penalty. Texas still has the "Needed Killin'" defense for homicide.

Police: "Why did you shoot him?"
Guy with gun: (shrug) "Needed killin'"
Police: "Ok then. Off you go."

need to stop spam (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360740)

spam is the bane of Internet -- we need to stop it.

assholes and (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360743)

fuckers deserve it.

How to end Spam... (4, Insightful)

ralphart (70342) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360745)

The answer seems simple; get politicians' email addresses on spammers' lists. Once they feel our pain, they'll do something.

Probably something stupid.

Re:How to end Spam... (2, Informative)

hcdejong (561314) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360812)

Except no politician ever reads his own mail. They have secretaries to filter it for them, so they've no idea about the scope of the spam problem.

Re:How to end Spam... (4, Interesting)

Halo- (175936) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361071)

Actually, most politicians have "secret" personal accounts as well. My wife used to work at capital in DC. The main $congressman@house.gov account is monitored by staff, but there is usually also something nondescript like rxq223@house.gov which goes to them personally.

You'd also be amazed how many people you have heard of are reachable at some simple variation of $theirname@yahoo.com. When I was helping add a candidate's address book into a database, I had to keep asking if certain entries were a joke. (e.g. "you're kidding, I can mail Janet Reno at janetreno@yahoo.com and it's really her?!?")

(obviously I made all the email addresses in this post up, so don't try mailing them... :) )

Re:How to end Spam... (4, Insightful)

gosand (234100) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360908)

The answer seems simple; get politicians' email addresses on spammers' lists. Once they feel our pain, they'll do something.


1. They probably don't read their own email, if they have an email address. Their families probably do though, which leads to...


2. In the words of Napoleon Dynamite..."they probably already ARE!" I think it is fairly safe to assume that if you have an email address, you get spam. Period.


I think that they just have bigger fish to fry.

Re:How to end Spam... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11361307)

<sarcasm>
But what could possibly be bigger then reducing Spam.

It's not like politicians are debating the War in Iraq, social security reform, election reform, trying to hash out a budget, or any other such import issue all day. I mean they just sit around all day doing nothing so I definitely think the top priority of the House, Senate, and President should be a new law that stops the spread of Spam forever. In fact, we should refuse to let them discuss anything else until they pass one.

</sarcasm>

Re:How to end Spam... (1)

asqui (61770) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361837)

Now consider that the overhead of spam probably ends up costing more than what the RIAA and MPAA claim piracy is costing them. (or at least what it's *actually* costing them, if anything)

Re:How to end Spam... (3, Interesting)

SilverspurG (844751) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361578)

I think it is fairly safe to assume that if you have an email address, you get spam. Period.

But you shouldn't. It's a clear violation of consumer protection laws.

Take real world spam: junk mail. I've lived in my current location for less than one year. I've purposely misspelled my address on a number of forms (Holyhock instead of Hollyhock) just so that I could monitor junk mail. I have given the misspelled address to only a handful of places: three banks and my insurance carrier. I asked all of them, at the point of signup, if they share their databases with anyone else. The answer, of course, has always been "no". Guess what? I'm receiving junk mail at "Holyhock".

Electronic spam is no different. If you're getting spam it's because someone has violated their agreement not to share your information with anyone else.

Too bad the existing laws don't work for us--and new ones won't do any better.

Re:How to end Spam... (1)

kjamez (10960) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361936)

my dog was pre approved for a $50,000 credit limit from citibank, which seems strange, because he doesn't have a social security number ...

even more strange, how did his name get on a mailing list? probably my dad's fault ... he signed me up for the republican national committee newsletter. i get all the 'i [heart] gop' cards and pamphelts. no so much anymore, but pre-election is was pretty bad.

Book em, Danno. (1)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360747)

I'd like to know what this kid's major was. And, "Ryan Pitylak?" I'm definately lacking pity.

Re:Book em, Danno. (4, Funny)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360761)

I'd like to know what this kid's major was.

Obviously Business with an Ethics concentration.

Re:Book em, Danno. (2, Insightful)

ralphart (70342) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360782)

His major? Saw in the Dallas Morning News it was Philosophy. There's a sad joke somewhere in there.

Re:Book em, Danno. (1)

brkello (642429) | more than 9 years ago | (#11362161)

Finally, a job for a Philosophy major other than teaching Philosophy :)

Re: Book em, Danno. (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360828)


> I'd like to know what this kid's major was.

And why he was in college if, as the news story suggested, he had raked in millions of dollars this way.

Oh... maybe he needed access to the university's computers.

Re:Book em, Danno. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360846)

Ah, a bird hunter. Pointer or setter?

Re:Book em, Danno. (1)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360878)

German Shorthairs. Got a 3-year solid liver male, and a 7-month-old ticked female. He's a stunning natural talent, but a little too cocky, still (tends to hunt for himself sometimes). She's still a kid, and a total knuckle-head. Hard to find good hunting/training grounds without going broke in the DC area, so these things take time.

And, you get the gold star for being the first slashdotter to actually say anything about that in my sig. You win! Um, no prize, actually, but you get my drift.

Re:Book em, Danno. (1)

TFGeditor (737839) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361059)

German shorthairs are great dogs if you are in good enough shape to keep up with them. Old guys like me do better with a nice staid, methodical setter--although getting cockleburs and grass spurs out the coat is a pain to both.

Re:Book em, Danno. (1)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361400)

My wife says "GSP" stands for "Get in Shape Plan." You are so right, brother. They'll keep you hopping. Actually, it's better, now that we have two - they keep each other a little more wiped out, all the easier for us. In the field though, you'd better hope for close cover - because otherwise they'll think nothing of running full throttle for the nearest objective a half mile away. We're working on that!

Re:Book em, Danno. (1)

lbmouse (473316) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360988)

I'd like to know what this kid's major was

Probably a PoliSci major. Spam, porn, and flipping burgers is the only way he'll ever make any money.

Re:Book em, Danno. (1)

sammaverick (771437) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361222)

He's a philosophy major at UT, with a junior standing. Ha, his email address is
ryan@payperaction.com .

Re:Book em, Danno. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11361235)

According to the UT directory (directory.utexas.edu):

Name Ryan Pitylak
Ryan Samuel Pitylak
Title Junior, Philosophy
College/Department College of Liberal Arts
E-Mail ryan@payperaction.com
Home Phone +1 512-320-9930
Home Address 2002a Guadalupe St # 290
Austin, TX 78705-5609-02

Again, this is gotten from simply putting his name in the directory.

Re:Book em, Danno. (1)

grouse (89280) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361563)

He has allowed the university to publish his directory information [utexas.edu] which says he is a philosophy major.

Re:Book em, Danno. (1)

imuffin (196159) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361682)

Philosophy. [utexas.edu]

annoying, but not fatal (0, Offtopic)

already_gone (848753) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360751)

probably rates as one of the least of yOUR concerns as a planet/population in decline. additional defocus from what the 'real crooks' are up to, which is murder & mayhem for profit.

Re:annoying, but not fatal (2, Interesting)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360802)

Ah, another "we can't do more than one thing at a time" post. If we can seek to defend trees and whales and hungry people (and anything else "in decline," as you put it), all at the same time, why is defending the uncluttered use of the internet not viable? The rapid exchange of information, un-bogged-down by crap like spam, is a vital part of the productivity and efficiency that allows us the free time and resources to take care of "things in decline."

Look! I'm typing, drinking coffee, watching news about landing on Titan, reading slashdot, petting my dog, and using the internet instead of burning gas driving to an office all at the same time. Wreck the net, and I'm back on the road.

Re:annoying, but not fatal (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360893)

You do realize you just responded to an automated troll bot that spews out randomly assembled phrases?

Re:annoying, but not fatal (1)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360912)

Sure, why not. Or to a human with an equally low amount of insight. Either way, it was an opportunity to make a point that actually matters a wee bit. So, I did. There actually are plenty of people who post here in that vein ("why chase after poor college kids when there are hungry college kids in Asia?"), so, knowing that similarly silly people would read that post (synthesized or otherwise), thought I'd chime in. Silly me. But then, look! I got modded up.

Re:annoying, but not fatal (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360930)

Yes, I base my satisfaction in life around wether or not the Slashdot groupthink approves of my statements.

Re:annoying, but not fatal (0)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360963)

Wow, note the sarcasm when you see it, dude! Being modded and $3.00 will get me a cup of coffee. I get it.

Re:annoying, but not fatal (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360947)

Even better, some crackhead mod then went on to mod it as interesting

Re:annoying, but not fatal (0)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360980)

I guess I could make mod-baiting a new hobby. Actually, I don't care too much at all. I do seem to get hung up on lengthy bantering with a few select nitwits here, though. Character flaw on my part, and I should really know better.

Re:annoying, but not fatal (0, Offtopic)

Atrax (249401) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360811)

you'll be modded OT for that, you know.

While a lot of people would agree that yes, you may have a point, it's sometimes best to keep on the subject or run the risk of being called a yammering troll.

myself, I'm holding judgement on CAN-SPAM until the verdicts are actually in. there's a lot of debate on how effective it may or may not be.

Re:annoying, but not fatal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11361868)

Fuck.

The irony!

getting modded OT for telling someone they're OT.

Re:annoying, but not fatal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360871)

Actually, the damage from murders, rapists, and such pales in comparison to that from corporate governance out of control, companies seeking profit above all else, militant extremists of all varieties. Spammers violate the public contract - and in doing so cause a tremendous amount of damage. Normally, I would recommend just shooting someone, putting them out of their misery - but in this case I would impale them and leave them to die a slow and worldwide televised death - as a warning to all of the other potential miscreants.

Re:annoying, but not fatal (1)

gorbachev (512743) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360872)

Theft is not fatal either, let's ignore that too.

like drum beating & yammering (1)

already_gone (848753) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360914)

not to be ignored, but allowed deserved attention towards positive outcome.

Re:annoying, but not fatal (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360981)

Your post failed the Slashdot Troll Validator. Reason: missing oblig. "Get some priorities, people!" tagline.

Re:annoying, but not fatal (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11361034)

so when the anorexic receives "you're fat!! lose weight", when the bulimic receives "you need to diet!", when the rape victom receives "horney hot lolitas raped!!", when the depressed person receives "you need antidepresantts now!", when the 12yr old is bombarded with p0rn spam, etc etc...

It's a part of the death and mayhem alright. I think it it stinks that email has been effectively rendered almost useless.

Re:annoying, but not fatal (1)

compro01 (777531) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361675)

when the 12yr old is bombarded with p0rn spam i hear you. i have had a personal vendetta against spammers since my sister started geting blasted with porn and "enlarge your dick" spam. ayone got some cruise missles i can launch at spammers houses?

Re:annoying, but not fatal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11362361)

bonus points for trolling

Only 4th? (2, Funny)

TFGeditor (737839) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360770)

"According to watchdog group SpamHaus, PayPerAction is the fourth-largest spam operation in the world."

Only fourth? The boy can't be a native Texan, then. Must be a Yankee immigrant.

(If you can't tell the difference between humor, flamebait, and troll, don't mod this.)

Re:Only 4th? (2, Funny)

El Torico (732160) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360851)

May favorite part of the article,

Local resident Dewey Coffman received one too many spam e-mails and finally did something about it. He archived and forwarded spam messages over to the AG's Office. His main concern with spam in general for his children.

"A lot of the pornography content is offensive and that is what has concerned me the most. You can't even let the kids in the room when your reading e-mail because some the spam contains that and it will flash up on your screen before you have a chance to get rid of it,- DADNABBIT" Coffman said.

OK, I added the DADNABBIT part. Does anyone else think that Dewey Coffman must look like Eustis on 'Courage the Cowardly Dog'?

Re:Only 4th? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360875)

Why such ignorance and malice towards Texans? You eat too much of the media's garbage. You could get the exact same statement from a parent in any state in the US (and probably any industrialized country, too). Or does the name Dewey just throw a twist in your panties?

Re:Only 4th? (1)

TFGeditor (737839) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360933)

I'm thinking more like Slim Pickens.

Re:Only 4th? (1)

lcsjk (143581) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361099)

When did that new spelling creep in? For over 30 years it has been DAGNABBIT. Not that anybody cares though. More coffee.

Re:Only 4th? (2, Informative)

The Salamander (56587) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361132)

> Does anyone else think that Dewey Coffman must look like Eustis on 'Courage the Cowardly Dog'?

They had him on the news last night (in Austin) and he looked like your average
computer geek. Perhaps he'll post on /.?

They also showed the spammers 400k+ house and beamer parked out front.

Is it just me... (0)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360771)

Is it just me, or does the CAN-SPAM act sound like something that would allow people to send out spam. Talk about picking a bad name for a good thing.

Don't know where you're from (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360818)

Maybe .ca by your homepage, but to 'can' something in US English vernacular means to throw it out or get rid of it. Not to be confused with packaging it up for distribution, as I'm guessing you're thinking.

Re:Don't know where you're from (1)

arr28 (739468) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360884)

Maybe .ca by your homepage, but to 'can' something in US English vernacular means to throw it out or get rid of it. Not to be confused with packaging it up for distribution, as I'm guessing you're thinking.
Or more likely he was thinking it as in "you can spam" i.e. "you are allowed to spam".
Whatever made him think it was a "good thing" though - I've no idea. With the opt-out rule rather than the opt-in rule, it may as well be the "you can spam" act (as many before me have suggested).

Re:Don't know where you're from (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360897)

I think he ment as in "You CAN SPAM"

PayPerAction (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360775)

do you see the irony that this guy really may end up having to pay per action?

Off to pound-you-in-the-ass prison! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360776)

Bend over! It's time to be rehabilitated!

Re:Off to pound-you-in-the-ass prison! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360929)

ROFLMAO!!1! HAHAHAAHA! Wait. Your a dumbass. Quit posting.

Re:Off to pound-you-in-the-ass prison! (0)

Easy2RememberNick (179395) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361002)

I bet he now regrets sending out spam for penis enlargement!

Two ways (1)

AnonymousCowheart (646429) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360785)

There are two ways to see if you've been sent illegal spam: Check for misleading subject lines that are intended to trick people into opening them. Look for a Web page to submit contact information.
Does all this damn V 1 A G R A email count as misleading? I think every spam message I get has some way to try and trick my filters.

Re:Two ways (4, Funny)

AKnightCowboy (608632) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360910)

Well, they figure if you don't want Viagra then you may be interested in their other products such as v14gr4 or V.!agri.a or ^i4.r4. Don't forget Cialias or C14l1$ or !4l1s soft tabs. My spam consists of someone advertising their porn webcam, shady pharmaceutical sales pitches, mortgages, and premium replica Rolex watches. They must think I have nothing better to do than buy a house and sit around taking viagara while jerking off to some slut's webcam and using my replica watch to alert me to when I should get up to get food.

Re:Two ways (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11361417)

"I have nothing better to do than buy a house and sit around taking viagara while jerking off to some slut's webcam"

Sounds like good livin to me! :)

Re:Two ways (1)

telemnar (68532) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361618)

I've recently been blessed with the opportunity to purchase valuable st0ck at a sharp discount! I am going to invest some of the millions of dollars I have already made helping those nice men from Nigeria with their banking problems.

How did this take so long to get detected? (1, Insightful)

itpr15061 (844859) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360807)

Spam isn't all that difficult to track back, why is it taking so long for groups like this (#4 in the world) to get shut down? Is the slowdown our legal system and building the case?

Re:How did this take so long to get detected? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360860)

It's because individuals can no longer press charges, only state attorneys. That's what CAN-SPAM said, and it superceded certain state laws in California and perhaps other places which DID allow folks to file suit individually. Now all we can do is beg the state attorneys to file suit.

Re:How did this take so long to get detected? (3, Informative)

gorbachev (512743) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360927)

Well, until recently spamming, in itself, has been quite legal. You could only get someone convicted, if they spammed to advertise something illegal.

Since the various anti-spamming laws have come to effect the problem has been lack of enforcement.

The only real deterrent so far has been civil suits filed by ISPs such as Microsoft (Hotmail and MSN), Earthlink and AOL to name to most active litigators of spammers. The civil suits have been very effective, but do not usually land the perps in prison (other than that Buffalo spammer who was dumb enough to use stolen credit cards to pay for the Earthlink accounts he spammed from).

Re:How did this take so long to get detected? (2, Funny)

FireFury03 (653718) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361427)

You could only get someone convicted, if they spammed to advertise something illegal.

Or of the spammer made unauthorised use of someone else's computer to send spam... No, no, you're right, spammers don't do illegal things like that.

Lamest Spam Dvice Ever (0, Flamebait)

TFGeditor (737839) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360815)

"There are two ways to see if you've been sent illegal spam:

Check for misleading subject lines that are intended to trick people into opening them.
Look for a Web page to submit contact information.

This is where spam operators make their money.

A consumer submits contact information to that Web site."

Gawd, is there a group anywhere with a greater ignorance level than the "mainstream" media? (Be nice...)

Re:Lamest Spam Dvice Ever (1, Funny)

rolocroz (625853) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360856)

Yes, you're posting on it.

Re:Lamest Spam Dvice Ever (1)

TFGeditor (737839) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360879)

I *said* be nice....

Re:Lamest Spam Dvice Ever (0)

TFGeditor (737839) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360974)

Flamebait, eh. Mod must be a member of the Fourth Estate...no, wait...that would be me.

texas? wow (0)

Liveandletlive (841246) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360841)

Why would he do that? does he not have anything better to do?

Or was he one of those enterprising minds who wanted to earn more than his dad by the age of 20?

fr1ust psot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11360937)

coomiiterbase and

Kick him out of scool and ... (-1, Flamebait)

canuck57 (662392) | more than 9 years ago | (#11360998)

Kick him out of school and publish his name and address, Make it legal to hack spammers sites. If the Texas University wants to keep him, then they should become liable for his actions. Go get the politicians email addresses and send them greating cards from your favorite email address collection site.

Re:Kick him out of scool and ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11361266)

According to some articles published in August, he lives in this [traviscad.org] $450K house. Notice how the home is in trust for himself. Probably hoping to keep it when his scam falls apart. According to the UT Directory [utexas.edu] he lives near campus, but that looks like that's just a P.O. box. The e-mail address in the UT directory goes to payperauction.com.

Re:Kick him out of scool and ... (2, Informative)

keath_milligan (521186) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361673)

It's been done. He lives in Deep Eddy - an trendy, expensive part of Austin in a house that is appraised at $450k (which is maximum value a house can be appraised at in that neighborhood - it actually worth quite a lot more). He also had (at least at one point) a shiny new Jag in the driveway.

OT: sendmail-8.13.2+milter-spamc+spamd (1, Informative)

maynard (3337) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361148)

If you're having serious problems with spammers rumplestiltskinning (rcpt dictionary attacks), sendmail-8.13.x allows you to limit the number of concurrent connections per IP address, limit the number of connections per minute per IP address, and slow down the flow of 'rcpt to:' commends by calling sleep(1); after a threshold number configured in your mc file.

If that's not enough, and it wasn't for me, this one line hack to sendmail posted to the mimedefang list will hang up on the fuckers after hitting your badrcptmax threshold. Totally out of RFC spec, but when did spammers play by the rules? You'll want a script to cull through your mail logs to firewall off or blackhole route IPs which attack you in this manner too, pretty trivial.

http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/pipermail/mimedefa ng/2003-January/012863.html [roaringpenguin.com]

Finally, I'd like to sing the praises of milter-spamc [milter.info] combined with the spamassassin daemon. It's written in c, very lightweight, and it offers a configuration option to deny messages tagged as spam durring the smtp transation with a 551 notification (actually, it offers a series of 44x and 55x notifications; see the docs). You can also configure it to accept the message and just tag it with X-Spam headers per normal, but giving the spammers notice that the message was even accepted just makes me happy in so many ways. And don't forget to RBL block the fuckers too. --M

Exim dictionary attack buster (1)

Bernie (38226) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361406)

For exim >= 4.12 just drop this into your DATA ACL:

drop message = too many bad recipients
condition = ${if and { {>{$rcpt_count}{8}} \
{>{$rcpt_fail_count}{$recipients_count}} }{yes}{no}}

The other bits are similarly easy :)

Re:Exim dictionary attack buster (1)

maynard (3337) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361605)

I stick with sendmail out of inertia more than anything else. Frankly, it's about time I explored other MTAs. I understand why the sendmail folks won't implement rcpt flood connection dropping out of respect for the RFCs, but the problem is pretty bad. If the exim folks support this, the sendmail folks are going to have to face the truth and support it soon too. For now, just make do I guess. Good tip BTW, thanks! --M

The punishment for this (-1, Troll)

Nosf3ratu (702029) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361200)

should be just as strict as it is for drug-trafficking while in college:

Expulsion and the permanent blacklisting of all federal higher education aid.

Ask yourself if I sound out of line, just for sending a little spam. Then ask yourself if it's out of line to bar someone from financial aid for life for selling a dime bag.

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State resources? (4, Interesting)

catdevnull (531283) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361461)

I wonder if the student used his student accounts and/or UT's bandwidth the propagate his spam? If so, that's a DOUBLE whammy!! The state could have his proverbial ass for misuse if they can't get him on the spam charges.

I met this guy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11361660)

A few years ago he wanted to start some book exchange site and wanted me to write a script to get all of the UT emails and spam them. I refused, saying that spam is evil and that there are better ways to do things.

Glad I did :)

Spamming Countries (3, Interesting)

Tom (822) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361769)

And before the usual trolls roll in to claim that most of the spam is from China and whatever:

Top 10 Spammer Countries [spamhaus.org]

If you're too lazy to look, the US is 1st with over 3 times the score of the 2nd place, which is indeed China.

Re:Spamming Countries (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11362058)

The ultimate source is the US because that's where the financial backers of these companies are but why do you think they find it so appealing to go offshore through zombie boxes? They know the governments over there will do nothing to stop it.

Here in Texas (1)

WillRobinson (159226) | more than 9 years ago | (#11361854)

We have a tendency to fry spammers, they rank right in there with them cattle rustlers.

Comment spam (1)

fisheye1969 (842355) | more than 9 years ago | (#11362178)

Interesting article - my own website (based on WordPress) used to recieve large amounts of comment spam. I'm not getting much of that any more (yippee!!!).

And the adverts: Texas Hold-Ems. (and casino's, Rolexes, C!4Ii5 etc, but mostly Texas Hold-Ems).

Shame really, as I visited Texas in 2003 and really liked the people there (still do of course, just not this spamming $£%&*!

Wouldn't it be easier... (0, Flamebait)

JumperCable (673155) | more than 9 years ago | (#11362195)

Wouldn't it be easier if we all just told his fellow college students who he is & what he looks like. College students are well known for having fewer inhibitions about expressing how they feel.
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