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Build Your Own Soccer-Playing Robot

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the he-shoots...-he-scores dept.

Robotics 129

An anonymous reader writes "This article by a Ph.D student at Shanghai JiaoTong University (SJTU) Research Institute of Robotics describes an RTLinux-powered robot that placed fifth in the most recent RoboCup competition. The robot has two color cameras for visual sensing along with a laser range finder (LRF) for goalkeeper location, and a wireless LAN allows communication among the robots on SJTU's team. The robot's embedded operating system is Red Hat Linux enhanced with the RTLinuxPro real-time extension."

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gotta be kidding me (0, Offtopic)

Ass, Ltd. Ho! (714400) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446240)

first time i read this stupid site in weeks, and i miss a goddamn FP when it's staring me in the face.

5th? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446241)

Wouldn't it be better to learn from the team who came first?

Mod parent TROLL (1)

alphakappa (687189) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446526)

Would you also care to explain why most of us who do not have the knowledge to come 5th cannot learn from them?

Mod Parent Fucking Retarded (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446588)

Perhaps some of us would like to read how the WINNER did it, not the "Almost" winner?

Your appreciation of mediocrity is impressive, but to the rest of us you just look like a fucking retard. Move along.

Re:5th? (1)

phaln (579585) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446538)

Fifth place needs love, too!

Re:5th? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446568)

As do fat chicks.

Re:5th? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446725)

Yeah . . . but they've gotta pay.

Re:5th? (1)

saunabad (664414) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446560)

Wouldn't it be better to learn from the team who came first?

How the hell is this comment modded insightful? Parent obviously has no clue how much time, effort and skill is required to make an autonomous robot at all. I'd consider it to be a major success if those robots work well enough to play soccer. Coming first or fifth in a tournament, well that's quite irrelevant. Even those teams that don't win, may have some technical areas which are more advanced to those that win.

Re:5th? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11447284)

I work in mechatronics and I find robocup to be a joke for the most part. Easily university grade. This team did NOTHING straight out of any mechatronics book other than using Linux, which is why this is a slashdot article.

excellent (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446247)

always glad to see another success for linux

though i do wonder what os the four soccer playing robots that beat it were running...

Re:excellent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446306)

Hey Mod get a clue - Redhat is a Linux Dist,,, That post was clearly on topic

BOOYAH FP BITCHES (0, Flamebait)

Ass, Ltd. Ho! (714400) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446251)

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Re:BOOYAH FP BITCHES (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446272)

Who's the bitch now? DUMBASS -- Yes I'm yelling at you.

Re:BOOYAH FP BITCHES (0, Offtopic)

billsoxs (637329) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446278)

No more beer for you tonight. Time to go to sleep and sober up

bearer of bad news.. (-1, Offtopic)

KingPunk (800195) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446263)

but this is a dupe. what the heck, mods sleeping or something?

Red Hat = embedded? (2, Insightful)

Alwin Henseler (640539) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446270)

From the summary: "The robot's embedded operating system is Red Hat Linux enhanced with the RTLinuxPro real-time extension."

Using Red Hat for embedding in a robot application? Sounds like an awful poor choice of tools, if you ask me.

Re:Red Hat = embedded? (3, Informative)

KingPunk (800195) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446359)

well, Linux, is only the kernel. the rest is just choice of userland tools/patches etc.

RTL stands for Real Time Linux, and its a patch that can be easily applied to any Linux kernel
that is relatively recent, but iirc, it works best on 2.6+.. Redhat, whilist a crappy "OS" overall due to their way of handling stuff, doesn't make their kernel any less effective as a RealTime kernel.
espically since its commerically supported if you coughed up the dough.

props to all my unix brethren ;)

Re:Red Hat = embedded? (1)

EnderWigginsXenocide (852478) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446483)

Really, they won't use anything as cool as you think they'll use. Probably just some kids thinking they're playing a game running these robotic warriors..err..soccer players...by remote control. But, look at my handle... what else would you expect me to think of?

Re:Red Hat = embedded? (1)

LnxAddct (679316) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446528)

Err actually out of the available choices, Red Hat was probably the best to go with. Red Hat does more with the kernel and embedded linux systems then any other major distro on the market. Who would you have recommended?
Regards,
Steve

Re:Red Hat = embedded? (1)

SnowZero (92219) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446696)

That's why my team [cmu.edu] uses Debian :P

Personally we've never really found a use for Realtime extensions; Robots are a pretty soft-realtime application becuase the complex algorithms need to be interruptable for debugging. It's way too easy for vision or path planning to take more than the alloted time.

Plain Linux does pretty well at handling the event loop; Most teams are simply event driven off of vision frames, with the motion control loop handled by custom embedded hardware on the robot.

Re:Red Hat = embedded? (1)

mangu (126918) | more than 9 years ago | (#11447033)

we've never really found a use for Realtime extensions ... Plain Linux does pretty well at handling the event loop


Have to agree with you on that. I've been doing real-time Linux programs for the last six years, and only studied RT-Linux a bit to come to the conclusion that it's only worth the effort for some extreme cases.


OK, my systems aren't true "real time", so what? When they have been running for years (longest continuous uptime nearly 4 years, broken by a failed power supply) who cares about the academic definition of "real time"?

Re:Red Hat = embedded? (1)

Rattencremesuppe (784075) | more than 9 years ago | (#11447287)

Using Red Hat for embedding in a robot application? Sounds like an awful poor choice of tools, if you ask me.

It's no embedded system in the traditional sense - basically, they just put a general purpose laptop on wheels.

Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (4, Funny)

tiktok (147569) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446271)

They were experimenting with robot soccer players that ran on Windows, but unfortunately they couldn't get them to run for 90 minutes straight.

Re:Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (2, Funny)

billsoxs (637329) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446288)

So did the robots turn blue and die or did the OS need to be reloaded?

Re:Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446292)

LOL. Even Microsoft's own gaming development company made fun of the Blue screen in Halo 2 Zanzibar map.

Re:Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (1)

ScytheBlade1 (772156) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446393)

...up until you realize that "Bungie" != "Microsoft". I'd hardly call a 3rd party company "Microsoft's own".

Re:Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446442)

Are you trolling or dim-witted? What do you think that (c) 2005 Microsoft Corporation at the bottom of Bungie's site is all about?

Re:Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (1)

Jussi K. Kojootti (646145) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446923)

I'd hardly call a wholly owned subsidiary of Microsoft "a 3rd party company"... They're even located at Redmond.

Stab yourself in the eye with a pencil, please. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446592)

Yeah, that deserves to be scored a 4. Even though it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARTICLE!

Jackass motherfuckers.

Re:Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (1)

maotx (765127) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446628)

For those who don't know, on the upper level is a computer on the defense side that opens up the main gate into the base. After you activate this, the screen goes blue with the infamous BSOD.

Re:Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446664)

I can imagine that the Bungee team might be able to slip some things in here and there. Bungee was primarily a Mac game developer so I can imagine them not treating their new employer as sacred.

Re:Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446702)

you mean bungie, right?

Re:Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (1)

antoy (665494) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446504)

I don't mind a MS joke guys, but can we please move to the 'security' stuff, which is at least topical? It's not funny when for most purposes, and most people, today's Windows works for months straight.

They also tried Macs (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446545)

They were experimenting with robot soccer players that ran on Windows, but unfortunately they couldn't get them to run for 90 minutes straight.

They also tried Macs and they ran for 90 minutes gay.

Re:Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (2, Interesting)

SnowZero (92219) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446675)

Laugh all you want, but Windows-based teams dominate 2 out of the 3 RoboCup soccer leagues. For small size, the top three teams are Windows-based:
1 - Fu-Fighters (Germany)
2 - RoboRoos (Australia)
3 - LuckyStar (Singapore)
4 - CMRoboDragons (USA & Japan) - go Linux!
In the dogs (Aibos), the Aibo itself is running Sony's Aperios operating system, but then there's the platform on which all the development is based:
1 - German Team (Germany, duh)
2 - UTS Unleashed (Australia)
3 - NuBots (Australia)
4 - UPennalizers (USA) - mixed Win/Linux IIRC
The remainder is the midsize, in which Linux does very well. That's because large embedded systems (i.e. 40cm cubic robots) are very well suited for Linux and not so much for Windows (For example, being able to ssh into the robot and run code is nice).

The CMU teams of which I am a part (CMRoboDragons, CMPack) are 100% Linux and proud of it, but Windows does much better than you'd think. Cornell's small size team even gets money from Microsoft (they're a 4-time champion).

Re:Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11447042)

FYI, in the Four-Legged (AIBO) league:

The Germans (placed 1st), UTS (placed 2nd) and the NUbots (placed 3rd) all use Windows as their primary development platforms.

In order to compile programs for the AIBO robots (which run Aperios), all teams use a GCC cross-compiler.

Re:Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (1)

adeydas (837049) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446957)

You mean the robos really started to work... OMG that's a great achivement for Microsoft...

Re:Linux 1, Microsoft Nil (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11447427)

What a cheap shot. 2004 competition, small size league (Robocup). 1st place - FU Fighters. Who run windows. 2003 - cornell, windows. 2002 - cornell, windows.

in no way does this suggest that windows is better than *nix or otherwise.

use the tool that best satisfies your needs. fuck you linux zealot. .. BAADF00D EOF

Robo-Fans. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446280)

Are they going to build robot fans that tear up the town when their team loses?

Wrong term. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446478)

It would be robo-hooligans.

Re:Robo-Fans. (1)

Kufat (563166) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446485)

Or when their team wins.

Re:In AD 2101 (1)

DigitalHammer (581235) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446494)

All robo-fans had too much motor oil to drink...

And the World Cup was beginning.

Town Mayor: What happen?
Civil Servant: Our team just lost us the game!
Secretary: We get phone call.
Mayor: What!
Secratary: Main line turn on!
RoboFan: What the hell, gentleman!!
RoboFan: All your town are belong to us.
RoboFan: You are on the way to roboblivion.
Mayor: What you say!!
RoboFan: You have no chance to survive make your time.
RoboFan: Ha Ha Ha Ha...
Mayor: Take off every Electromagnet!
Mayor: You know what you doing.
Mayor: Move 'Electromagnet'.
Mayor: For great justice.

---

In any case, lets just hope future drunk robo-fans arent controlled by skynet. :-P

No, they'll just invite the Arabs over (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446600)

After all, who's better at fucking up a good thing with some homestyle jihad?

BITCHES!

Soccer cyborgs (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446281)

Could these be used in combat? Just replace the soccer ball with a rocket launcher.

--
Get a Free Mac Mini! See Website for Details. [slashdot.us]

Re:Soccer cyborgs (1)

KingPunk (800195) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446368)

you mean so they can run around, having kernel panics,
being exploited by the other side, etc..
or if you mean just replace the ball with a rocket launcher,
i don't know about that either..
think about it.. a robot, running around, kicking a rocket launcher through the desert doesn't seem like a bright idea to me
but then again, the way the pentagon is going,
it might appeal to them.. props for the idea!

Re:Soccer cyborgs (2, Funny)

Tellalian (451548) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446477)

I hardly think kicking rocket launchers at people will be an effective military strategy.

Re:Soccer cyborgs (1)

SnowZero (92219) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446726)

AAAARRRGHHH!
As any member of any RoboCup team would tell you, NO! It's not that we don't like BattleBots, but (1) they aren't autonomous, and (2) we get asked this like 50 times a year. Fully autonomous Soccer is a very different reasearch problem from constructing a RC fighting vehicle.

(sorry, I'm a bit touchy on this subject)

Re:Soccer cyborgs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11447378)

Wouldn't the rocket launcher just get broken if they just kicket it around?

redhat, linux. nice. (1)

Nexcet (792231) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446284)

I remember me and my friend had a day long debate on using Redhat as OS for Bot, we were gonna build on GameCube System and extend for it to search in small places for items. I never won the debate, nor did he. But now I have something to back me up. Just so cool, to see Redhat holding up heavy jobs like that. *smiles* :)

Glad it gave you a boner. Now STFU (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446602)

Master simple sentences before posting here, please.

odd.. (1)

priestx (822223) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446307)

If they built one running linux, the others must run what? Windows or Mac? Or just none at all? I know that Windows can be embedded.

Embed your head back into your ass, Sir. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446608)

We don't like hearing the little people talk.

Re:odd.. (1)

SnowZero (92219) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446733)

Most RoboCup mid-size robots run Linux. This team isn't at all unusual. In other leagues it's a different story, see my earlier post [slashdot.org] on the subject.

The Great Penguin (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446308)

did it look like a cute, fluffy pinguin? Prolly it would get cute points for that...

Cyberball, I have not forgotten thee. (2, Informative)

phaln (579585) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446336)

I hear predictions about robots taking the World Cup in 2050, and it certainly seems like we're moving that way. Still, I'm holding out for some Cyberball-style action -- that's where it's at.

Maradonabot & Obligatory Futurama (2, Funny)

bildungsroman_yorick (825714) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446344)

After the robots done performing it's primary objective is the secondary objective becoming a fat, cocaine snorting Hedonismbot?

Re:Maradonabot & Obligatory Futurama (1)

GWTPict (749514) | more than 9 years ago | (#11447575)

Only once you've handled the ball into the net thereby knocking England out.

Maradona = Cheating bastard.

Andres Escobar (3, Funny)

Michael Hunt (585391) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446351)

Now all we gotta do is wait for this thing to score an own goal and it'll get shot at the airport on its way home.

I love soccer fans :)

I'm lazy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446358)

Yeah yeah, robot's playing soccer, neat stuff, runs on linux.. great.. where's the frickin' video of this thing?

I wanna see them brawling and fans rioting! Or at least the stupid black cube 'kicking' the damn ball!

I guess I'm just too lazy to rel=follow the articles, anyone got a link to a vid?

What's next? (5, Funny)

GuyMannDude (574364) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446367)

First we got robot soldiers and now we got robot soccer players. What we really need are robotic Mexican soccer announcers:

cout << "He shoots!" << endl;
cout << "He scores!" << endl;
cout << "G";
for (int i = 0; i < 10000; ++i)
{
cout << "o";
}
cout << "al!" << endl;

GMD

Re:What's next? (1)

Nexcet (792231) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446562)

funny & cute, if i could give karma. ill give you extra one for that ^_^

2050 World Cup Championship (3, Interesting)

dhj (110274) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446383)

Last time I saw a post about this on Slashdot [slashdot.org] Vision [sansokan.jp] was boasting they would be able to win the World Cup in 2050... I felt the need to call bullshit on that boast, but for the wrong reason.

The reason I called bullshit originally is because I remember seeing an amazing achievement in robot dexterity in 1998. The Honda prototype, Asimo, slowly, precisely and precariously walk up a few steps without toppling. After seeing that robot hobble up some stairs, my response to a humanoid robot with soccer player dexterity within 45 years was a predictable... Bullshit.

If you were thinking the same thing... Take a look at these pics and vids [robocup2004.pt] . They are impressive. They just might have soccer player dexterity by 2050. Without having to worry about getting tired or even slowing down they could pose a major threat (in soccer, put your tinfoil hat back on).

However, I'm still going to call bullshit. Mainly because soccer, unlike chess, deals with full freedom of motion in a 3D field. Computers only recently were able to master chess on a world competition level with intense processing [ibm.com] . Chess is played on an 8x8 field, with significant, but limited, branching. The 3D nature of soccer (or even the 2D nature of novice soccer) presents branching that could be arguably higher than that of Go [ishipress.com] . Combine that with the fact that soccer players aren't going to wait a turn for the computer to "think". This is my new reason for calling bullshit on a Robot 2050 World Cup Champion.

But, damn if those robot control systems aren't impressive. I wouldn't mind eating these words. Robots are cool.

--David

Re:yea but (1)

bbkingadrock (543696) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446418)

who's workin' on the goalie?

Re:2050 World Cup Championship (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446420)

Dude, go rent a Fifa Soccer videogame.

The strategy of soccer is not an insurmountable AI problem.

The problem in soccer is moving one's body to where it needs to be in the time it needs to get there. The problems are first visual (how does the robot know where it is, it's team mates, the ball, etc.) and second control (how does the robot know how to run without falling over, kick at the right speed, etc.). Now, in a videogame, these things aren't issues, just the strategy. Thus, you can see that the strategy part has basically already been solved by going out and renting anyone of a bazillion soccer videogames.

Re:2050 World Cup Championship (1)

SnowZero (92219) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446715)

Remember, only the *best* team has to beat humans by 2050. It's a lofty goal, but with something like 150+ teams pre-registered for 2005 (total for 4 leagues), I think we might be able to reach it. I've been doing RoboCup since 1999, and you would not believe the progress just in the last 6 years. I do think its self-centered BS for any particular team to claim *they* will reach the 2050 goal, but I don't think its so bad to say *some* team will.

Humanoids need to advance in hardware, but look at the other robot and simulation leagues and you will see that strategy is coming along quite well already. When I started working on small size, humans with joysticks could beat a RoboCup team. Now humans get demolished. Speed is exactly the computer's advantage -- they are dumb in high-level strategy, but they outdo you in driving and kicking accuracy. Plus they never blink and have a reaction time of 100ms for almost any sort of change. Humans have *at best* 100ms reaction times, and much slower if they get into an unexpected situation. Check out our videos [cmu.edu]

strategy? (1)

The Creator (4611) | more than 9 years ago | (#11447133)

Suppose that the robot is simply capable of running 250mph with the ball...

And the robot goalie? Simply following the ball and capable of accelerating with 50G...

I did the software project. (1)

Luke727 (547923) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446400)

For one of my classes, we split up into teams and wrote our own Robocup client (for the software simulation). My team had the best out of the class, but it was fucking pathetic compared to the 1st place winner of the tournament. If you're interested in the software tournament, take a look at the University of Amsterdam's RoboCup page [science.uva.nl] . Their publications are especially useful.

Your robot won't have a laser range finder (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446407)

LRFs go for several thousands of dollars currently. Unless you have a lot of cash lying around, I doubt the "build it yourself" robot will have one.

you sure? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446460)

really? because i can get one for $35.49 [yahoo.com]

Re:you sure? (1)

Rosonowski (250492) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446574)

That's technically sonar, but might be just as good for simple applications.

I for one... (1)

meatflower (830472) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446497)

I for one welcome our soccer playing, linux powered, robot overlords. Sorry....it had to be said.

I can see it now... (2, Funny)

Berserker76 (555385) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446499)

01000111 01001111 01000001 01001100 00100001 00100001 00100001 00100001 00100001 00100001 (GOAL!!!!!!)

Amazing (1)

Pan T. Hose (707794) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446533)

That's amazing. Years ago kids at school used to call me a robot-playing sucker, and now I'm building my own soccer-playing robot. Who's laughing now? Losers!

Re:Amazing (1)

hkroger (666340) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446999)

Ha haa, you robot-playing sucker!

Mod grandparent up (1)

Pan T. Hose (707794) | more than 9 years ago | (#11447120)

That's amazing. Years ago kids at school used to call me a robot-playing sucker, and now I'm building my own soccer-playing robot. Who's laughing now? Losers!

Ha haa, you robot-playing sucker!

Seriously, I have no idea why the grandparent post is not Score:5, Funny yet.

Re:Mod grandparent up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11447456)

I know. It's because you're an obvious troll, Dr. Pantyhose.

The robot wont overtake real soccer players (2, Funny)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446555)

Until they build a robot that obsesses about its appearance and is embarassingly caught shagging the nanny robot.

They build an expensive robot that indulges in some high frequency snorting to improve its 'off the field' performance.

They build another expensive robot that 'forgets' to turn up for mandatory checks and goes shopping instead.

A robot admits it tried to deliberately damage another robot in a revenge tackle.

Slapper robots are developed which can be 'roasted' by the football robots.

One of the new generation super robots is photographed leaving a brothel populated by pvc wearing granny robots (probably the current robots recycled a few times).

Re:The robot wont overtake real soccer players (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446723)

I don't really understand the appeal of soccer. They run around for 90 min of intense effort, and yet they don't score. If I wanted that, I would go to a bar.

Red cards?? That's what football is all about! (1)

Kentsusai (837912) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446601)

Can't wait for someone to program a robot so that it can get a red card for smashing another robot... or at least pushing a robot over.

That'll be sooooo cool!!!

Re:Red cards?? That's what football is all about! (1)

tuxette (731067) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446637)

I'll be more impressed with the Totti model that spits just as well...

Re:Red cards?? That's what football is all about! (3, Interesting)

SnowZero (92219) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446737)

2 of the 3 RoboCup soccer leauges already have red cards, believe it or not. Probably the craziest thing I've ever seen in 6 years of RoboCup was in 1999, in a game between FU-Fighters (Germany) and RobotIS (Korea) in the small size leauge. Small size robots are up to 180mm in diameter, and up to 150mm tall. Germany had robots where the "kicker" was an 800 RPM spinning aluminum metal plate, while robotIS had tiny robots (from another leauge). At one point Germany's robot kicked one of the RobotIS robots completely into the air! It did a complete flip, and when it landed, it just kept on playing, which was almost more amazing. Not suprisingly there were several red cards in that game.

Results from the IBM versus SCO match (1)

bobdotorg (598873) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446619)

SCO was disqualified for repeatedly faking injuries for a red card.

Attention Canadians (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446689)

Please offer this "PhD student at Shanghai JiaoTong University (SJTU) Research Institute of Robotics" a job teaching in Canada.

HAMMER REVOLUTION --; (1)

clubhouse (840238) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446745)

robots beating humans is definitely antihammer hammerrevolution.com [slashdot.org] --;

Re:HAMMER REVOLUTION --; (1)

clubhouse (840238) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446758)

hammerrevolution.com [hammerrevolution.com]
--;

Small-size leauge resources (2, Interesting)

SnowZero (92219) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446773)

If you really want to build your own, why not start from a team with open-source software or published robot designs?

RoboRoos [mu.oz.au] - Currently the software release seems to be down, but a friendly email to them would probably fix it.
CMDragons [cmu.edu] - My team (whee shameless plug). Our complete 2002 software is available (runs on Debian). RedZone robotics is currently selling a robot based on our design.
RoboRoos [uq.edu.au] - These guys have done very well the last couple of years, and have a fair amount of information online as well.

This is news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11446778)

Stuff like this has been happening all over. Last year, half of the competitors in Eurobot [eurobot.org] were using an RT-linux approach - including the top 4.

its called Football not Soccer ! (2)

wildBoar (181352) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446815)

Well at least where I come from.

No accident that the organising world body is Called FIFA, the european one EUFA and the English one FA.

Top marks to the person who can tell me what FA stands for !

Re:its called Football not Soccer ! (1)

UserGoogol (623581) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446984)

Soccer is short for Association Football, which is the name you call that kind of Football for when you want to distinguish it from Aussie Rules.

Re:its called Football not Soccer ! (1)

wildBoar (181352) | more than 9 years ago | (#11447063)

not true, nobody gives a toss about Ozzy rules except Ozzy.

I for one (0, Redundant)

killerface (573659) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446850)

I for one welcome our new linux embedded overlords

docs? (1)

hasst (852296) | more than 9 years ago | (#11446878)

Dude, this is a Chinese Robot! Based on my previous experience with rare chinese hardware it does not have any documentation and it will take you days before finding out how the darn thing is supposed to work. So, I'm still waiting for the violent iron made german robot that plays Rammstein, kicks ass and from time to time wants to take over the world. It's fun, expensive, and well documended (german engineering at it's best!). History will prove me right ;-)

Maybe... (1)

GroeFaZ (850443) | more than 9 years ago | (#11447052)

...but your English teacher will prove you wrong.

Re:docs? (1)

ultranova (717540) | more than 9 years ago | (#11447108)

So, I'm still waiting for the violent iron made german robot that plays Rammstein, kicks ass and from time to time wants to take over the world. It's fun, expensive, and well documended (german engineering at it's best!).

And I'm waiting for the Japanese-made household android with overly large eyes, cat ears and a hidden hentai mode ;).

Unfortunately, catgirl androids might qualify as weapons of mass destruction :(.

LRF = Laser Range Finder? (2, Funny)

Aaron Denney (123626) | more than 9 years ago | (#11447146)

I always thought it mean "Little Rubber Feet".

Why bother with Linux or Windows? (1)

pnewhook (788591) | more than 9 years ago | (#11447412)

Why would you bother with either of those OS's anyway? It's not like you need any preemptive multitasking features in such a small application anyway.

The teams would be better off ditching their OS and putting everything in a tight loop on a simple roll your own kernel. The time saved not having to configure the OS and its real time extensions could be instead spent on game logic.

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