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Talking with Timothy Miller

Hemos posted more than 9 years ago | from the get-to-know dept.

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barryman_5000 writes "Timothy Miller has written plenty of drivers for the open source effort and now kerneltrap has an interview with him on his newest effort for an open graphic card. He talks about his background, struggle with secretive 3D vendors and more."

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But.... (0, Redundant)

DominoTree (803219) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469024)

Will it run OpenSolaris?

Re:But.... (1)

Saeed al-Sahaf (665390) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469319)

No, but it _will_ run OpenKnopixCatFoodBasementMasturbater beta v. .0006.6.6. And *IF* you are not running OpenKnopixCatFoodBasementMasturbater beta v. .0006.6.6, then obviously, you are a looozer.

Hey Hemos... (1)

BJH (11355) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469033)

...what happened to this story [slashdot.org]? It's not like we haven't seen dupes before...

Re:Hey Hemos... (1)

tijmentiming (813664) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469050)

Yeah indead! i replied to it, but now it's gone!

Re:Hey Hemos... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469078)

So did I! But after seeing that the first 20 posts were obviously trash (stuff you or I would post) they decided to take it down.

Come on, give up the dirt..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469096)

What was the story before it was "disappeared"?

Re:Come on, give up the dirt..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469156)

Looking @ Linux & OSS Through Business' eyes.

Re:Come on, give up the dirt..... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469195)

I wonder if it had anything to do with a comment posted yesterday [slashdot.org] in the K-Meleon 0.9 thread?

Re:Hey Hemos... (1)

spac3manspiff (839454) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469099)

Now be a doubleplus-good slashdotter,
There was never a dup, anyone who thinks there was one has commited a though crime.

Linus [businessweek.com] was never seen on the cover of Business Week.

Re:Hey Hemos... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469314)

Holy crap!

Now that's News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters !

No wonder they removed it.

Erm... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469042)


"Has wrote?"

Sweet jumpin' Jebuz.

Can we call these guys something other than "editors?" I'm pretty sure we're maligning the proper usage of the word here.

Re:Erm... (3, Funny)

koi88 (640490) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469158)


"Has wrote?"

Should be: "Has writed"

Re:Erm... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469224)

Has wroted

Re:Erm... (0)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469401)

Maybe he should have wrotten a spell/grammatical checker for the editors instead. Or for the copy/pasters since "editors" might indeed not be the proper term.

Something to remember (1)

Johan Veenstra (61679) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469461)

When you're reading ./, try not to get too annoyed by bad grammar. Virtually all past and present editors are terrible at spotting even the most obvious language deformations. Let's face it, bad grammar is here to stay. Let's just hope it's not contagious.

Grammer be good... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469049)

Timothy Miller has wrote plenty of drivers ...

Yikes...

IP Freely. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469054)

"He talks about his background, struggle with secretive 3D vendors and more.""

I guess one doesn't need IP law to keep something secret.

Re:IP Freely. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469347)

LOL, keep your IP static.

FFS (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469059)

"Timothy Miller has wrote plenty of drivers...

WTF (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469071)

Has wrote plenty of . . . ?

Has mother fucking WROTE plenty?

I've worked with him (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469074)

Honest to god, the man farts incessantly. Typically once every 15 minutes or so. And he makes no effort to disguise sound or smell.

Re:I've worked with him (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469118)

haha

i worked with a guy like that and we had an understanding that at those times i ran errands, took a break, etc. 15 minutes is kind of harsh though...

Oh for Pete's sake (-1, Flamebait)

brokenvoice (595329) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469086)

"has wrote" Mod me down if you like, but this is bad writing. Since when did being an editor with poor language skills become OK?

Pot, meet kettle. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469268)

Since when did being an editor with poor language skills become OK?

To make your sentence grammatically correct, please select one of the following two sentences:

  • When did being an editor with poor language skills become OK?
  • Since when was being an editor with poor language skills OK?

Thanks for playing!

Re:Pot, meet kettle. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469344)

"To make your sentence grammatically correct, please select one of the following two sentences:"

You used "sentence" twice. That seems redundant.

Re:Pot, meet kettle. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469367)

That seems redundant.

You'd think so, but it's still correct. Keep grasping at straws.

Re:Oh for Pete's sake (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469391)

The funny thing is I can see the original editors having poor grammar, but all the newer editors seem to be the same way. So many unemployed English PhDs they could have hired, but I guess it's cooler to give your grammatically challenged friends cushy jobs where they don't really have to do anything for their salary.

Grammar, pleeze (-1, Redundant)

Max von H. (19283) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469098)

"Timothy Miller has wrote plenty of drivers..."

"Timothy Miller has written plenty of drivers..."

would be better ;)

I'm beginning to wonder whether /. editors have a grasp on the language they're supposedly using. Or maybe they've outsourced the job to some Philipino shop... Indians wouldn't have made such a grammatical mistake.

Re:Grammar, pleeze (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469166)

they should build grammar nazi functionality into their slashcode

Re:Grammar, pleeze (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469223)

You know, some people around here talk about 'editors' as if they actually exist, and actually 'edit'.

I suggest we check snopes :).

Re:Grammar, pleeze (1)

adeydas (837049) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469238)

Well if you read their FAQ's you will see that they don't quite look after grammar since its the content that matters. Since they don't look into the matter too deeply, no matter their are so many dupe stories here at /. You can mod me down now.

Re:Grammar, pleeze (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469298)

grammar since its the content that matters.
you mean it's :P

Re:Grammar, pleeze (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469307)

You must meen "... no matter they're are so many dupe ..."

Re:Grammar, pleeze (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469395)

"there" are so many dupe stories

NB - There is a standard requirement that all comments on grammar or spelling contain at least won grammar or speeling misteak.

Re:Grammar, pleeze (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469342)

Or maybe they've outsourced the job to some Philipino shop...

Filipino would be better. ;)

Re:Grammar, pleeze (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469366)

Am I missing something, or is the article writeup not written by /. editors? They are written by the people submitting the story.

The editors themselves don't seem to edit the original writeup. So in short, its not the editors your want to be complaining to, but the people that write the write up itself.

Re:Grammar, pleeze (1)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469500)

Just like when you write a book and your editor just sends the manuscript to the printers.

Do you even know what an editor is ?

June 2005?! (1)

jrutley (723005) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469101)

I can't wait to buy one!

All we need now is a petition for its support! (2, Interesting)

essreenim (647659) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469442)

This is really interesting

..and all graphics manufacturers that did publish specs have stopped doing so..

Y. nVidia are probably the most helpful to the community yet have 2 sets of Linux drivers - the OSS ones and the closed (official) ones.

A: Does the project have an official name?

Timothy Miller: Depends on what you mean by "official". We're calling ourselves the "Open Graphics Project",

cool, now Ill be able to play the doom3 engine with OpenGL and OpenGP ..

All geometry and vertex processing will be done in software in the host computer.

This is a bit disappointing. Ever played a game in S/W mode? Nightmare - last century. At least its only a part of the processing though.

Keep in mind that no graphics card on the market can fully support Doom III, with all features turned on, at a high framerate. So the fact that a card like this couldn't handle it shouldn't surprise anyone.

True. I still turned up all my settings for Doom3 though and just played at a lower fps on an nVidia Geforce FX 5700 256. It was playable (on Linux with the latest nVidia Linux drivers)..

Anyways, I'm getting one as soon as it comes out, if it comes out!!

Re:June 2005?! (2, Insightful)

wild_berry (448019) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469577)

I cant work out if you're being sarcastic. You didn't mention running Duke Nukem Forver on it, so I think you may be serious.

And thank you for being the first post to talk about the card and/or article, not spelling or grammar.

In the Article, Mr Miller says he's heard quotes "I'd rather buy a used Rage128 from eBay". When this card becomes available, my Rage128 (Pro Ultra) will be on ebay.co.uk. Just so you can be ready ;)

I don't know if it will actually be an upgrade to my system, or a sidegrade, but I think this is like buying Fair Trade goods: those traded to afford a broad selection of producers some of the money thrown around by the rich developed world. I.E. I will buy one because I believe in the principle over (perceived lack of) the features.

duh (3, Interesting)

Mr_Silver (213637) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469117)

He has observed that there is a growing trend by graphics hardware vendors to provide less and less information to free and open source operating system developers.

This is because the graphics card market depends on vast amounts of R&D and producing a product that is technically superior to everything else out there. Essentially being continually ahead of the game as your competitiors try to catch up.

As much as OSS advocates would not like to hear it, opening up the graphics card specifications to all and sundry would be the equivilant of pooring your R&D down the pan. Selling support for graphics cards doesn't keep you in business - making a product that kicks the ass of your competitors (and them having difficulty working out how to beat it) does.

duh-IP Security. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469172)

Funny A similar argument can be made for any IP, including software patents (especially software since that's all the product is).

Re:duh-IP Security. (1)

Aurix (610383) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469590)

IP Law gives them the right to sue for people illegally using/gaining access to the material.

Sure, there's only so much they can do to protect their IP, but why shouldn't corporations have the right to sue the shit out of people stealing their R&D?

Re:duh (4, Insightful)

pe1rxq (141710) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469277)

There might be a lot of R&D, but also a lot of crap.

Thinking that you can hide this precious R&D in software without anyone seeing is nonsense. (The software interface is all that is needed for writting drivers). Your competitor is going to need at most a few weeks more before they dissassembled everything. If that is enough for them to steal your market your card wasn't as far ahead as you thought.

This 'black magic beyond us mere mortals' attitude is exactly what is to blame for this kind of thing spreading. (ie NVidea not releasing specs to their ethernet chip which ofcourse contains a lot of expensive R&D) Most stuff simply isn't as impressive as those companies want you to think.

Jeroen

oh yes, you have found them out (1)

justins (80659) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469569)

blah blah

Your competitor is going to need at most a few weeks more before they dissassembled everything.


blah blah

Most stuff simply isn't as impressive as those companies want you to think.

Which is why driver software has never had anything to do with the success or failure of graphics cards in the market.

Re:duh (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469375)

would be the equivilant of pooring your R&D down the pan.

What the fuck is wrong with Slashdot? The literacy level has dropped through the floor in the past few weeks. Is it all the ten year-olds that got computers for Christmas?

"Equivalent".

"Pouring".

Re:duh (1)

runderwo (609077) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469482)

This isn't insightful or interesting. Apparently the parent has never heard of NDA contracts.

Re:duh (2, Insightful)

radish (98371) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469557)

What's an NDA got to do with anything?

How can I possibly write and publish an open source driver to an interface, if that interface us under NDA?

Re:duh (1)

tribulation2004 (751416) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469522)

Okay, for the sake of argument, I'll agree.

Now what's stopping them from releasing specs for cards which no longer ship (let's say graphics cards that are older than one year)? The problem is really that video cards supported by open source drivers are all 3+ years old (ie. obsolete). The performance gap between competitors is not 3 years; keeping specs secret after the performance gap has evaporated does not protect a company's lead.

Closed-source drivers do not allow for easy debugging/tuning, making the cards themselves useless if the manufacturer abandons support for the driver.

Re:duh (5, Insightful)

farnz (625056) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469539)

All a decent specification document reveals is how to tell a particular chip what to do, not how that chip does it. Any competitor knows what a chip is supposed to do (you can get that information by disassembling a binary driver, or by monitoring the bus while you send the binary driver commands), so the only "IP" you risk losing is the discovery that your "hardware" features are implemented by the device driver.

Re:duh (1)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469549)

making a product that kicks the ass of your competitors

only if you choose that arena

This Open Graphics Card will kick the ass of its competitors as far as a lot of prospective purchasers are concerned, and I am one of them.

It won't be sat in my XP box running Half-Life but it will be sat in my terminal and get the hours and hours of use it hopefully will deserve.

2048x2048 and up - yay, now that's kicking ass.

Unu Ringo ilin regas (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469130)

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Re:Un anneau unique pour les gouverner tous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469648)

Trois anneaux pour les Rois Elfes sous le ciel
Sept pour les Seigneur Nains dans leur demeure de pierre
Neuf pour les Hommes Mortels destinés au trépas
Un pour le Seigneur Ténébreux sur son sombre trône,
Dans le pays du Mordor où s'étendent les Ombres
Un Anneau pour les gouverner tous, un Anneau pour les trouver
Un Anneau pour les amener tous et dans les Ténébres les lier
Au pays de Mordor où s'étendent les ombres...

Drivers for what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469132)

and which open source effort were they written for?

Some detail would be useful.

"Timothy Miller has written plenty of graphics card drivers for the open source ??? effort and now kerneltrap has an interview with him on his latest effort for an open graphic card. He talks about his background, struggles with secretive 3D vendors and more."

Get some real editors. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469144)

"Has Wrote"? Did this come out of a trailer park in BFV Alabama? Man, this place is getting pretty poor at writing English. Does anyone actually proof what you guys write?

Re:Get some real editors. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469244)

Hey, that's where I live!

iD-eal project for Carmack (3, Interesting)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469157)


JC should stick some of his $ behind this project instead of making rockets.

time for a change (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469163)

the timing seems right as the world gets filled with frustrated PPC-users who can't even use the binary-only nvidia drivers for linux on their powerbooks...

Atari ST (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469221)

When I was in highschool, back in the late 80's, I developed a terminal program, ANSITerm, for my Atari ST which was unique in that it could display 80 column text in 16 colors, something that was "impossible" for the Atari ST but very important for most bulletin boards. For that, I had to write text rendering code in carefully-optimized 68000 assembly. I guess you could say that was one of my early exposures to something resembling graphics driver development.

Was that using the Atari STs 320x200 16-colour bitmapped mode with 4-pixel wide characters, or was it using the 640x200 4-colour bitmapped mode with stippling or some other effect, or even hacking the hardware to program a 16-colour 640x200 mode?

Anyone who programmed an application on 80s computers ended up banging the hardware if they wanted performance. Most games had their own drivers for the graphics hardware, and so on.

Re:Atari ST (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469550)

Having done a Google search, it appears that it is merely using 4 pixel wide characters on a 320x200 16-colour screen. I'm disappointed.

I had come up with a solution at 640x200 that would provide 10 colours (white, light green, green, dark green, black, grey, pink, red, dark red and brown) using simple stippling and two 4-colour (white, green, red, black) screens (screen 1 stipples X.X.X.X/.X.X.X.X. and screen 2 stipples .X.X.X.X/X.X.X.X. for stippled areas - the / means next pixel line, heh) switching screen every frame to smooth out the stippled colours. It would use 64KB of display memory as opposed to 32KB - not a problem for a terminal program on a 512KB minimum machine.

(even without the dual screens the stippling would have worked reasonably well on the typical display of the time)

Yadddaaa (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469243)

Hi. I'd like to take the collective work of hundreads and thousends of talented people and give it away for free without even asking the peeps involved. My name is Stallman. Here's my card!

Re:Yadddaaa (1)

dteichman2 (841599) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469516)

Umm.... the whole point of Open Source Software is that EVERYONE should give away their collective work. The resulting work "pool" cuts development time for other work. Thus, promoting more work and improving the quality of all software.

Grammar (-1, Redundant)

Sivar (316343) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469339)

I do not want to appear to be a grammar nazi, but "has wrote plenty of drivers..." is better written, "has written plenty of drivers..."

Sorry, it's just that seeing "DirectX9 - For More Then Just Gamers?" and then this not an hour later were too much.

Re:Grammar (1)

musselm (209468) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469553)

My favorite is when a grammar-correction post gets something wrong as well, such as:

"Sorry, it's just that seeing ... and then this not an hour later were too much."

The word "seeing" is a singular noun. It should read "... was too much."

Enjoy!

second damn article in a row (-1, Offtopic)

Atrax (249401) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469371)

HAS WRITTEN

not 'has wrote'

wtf is going on here? is everyone suddenly illiterate?

Re:second damn article in a row (1)

Atrax (249401) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469528)

Modded redundant? That'd be about right. Grammar on slashdot is fucking redundant.

nice one.

Re:second damn article in a row (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469621)

It was moderated as redundant because there were about 20 posts above yours pointing out the bad grammar with respect to the "had wrote" formulation in the published story.

Re:second damn article in a row (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469658)

Damn, I autocorrected my example of bad grammar from "has wrote" to "had wrote" automatically! Grrrr! It just shows how good grammar should be automatic, and how useless schools must be these days.

Alternative OSs (3, Insightful)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469386)

These platforms, both free and non-free are valuable alternatives to the Microsoft monolith

I hate this. I don't use an "alternative" OS any more than I drink an alternative to milk or live an "alternative" lifestyle.

I know it's grammatically correct but it's the hidden implication that does my head in!

Minority OS (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469560)

But you do use a minority OS. And vendors do discriminate against their minority-OS customers. Draw whichever parallels you see fit.

Re:Alternative OSs (1)

radish (98371) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469595)

What's the implication? I don't see one. Alternative means "different", and Linux is different to Windows. Any bias you have about the use of the word Alternative is yours, and you'd be well served to rethink it. Many bad things have good alternatives.

Re:Alternative OSs (1)

ggvaidya (747058) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469616)

I know it's grammatically correct but ...

For once , today. I think the editors deserve a round of applause!

[It's alright, Hemos, you know we love you :D]

It's not really their fault... (1)

dteichman2 (841599) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469484)

barryman 5000 wrote that. Not the /. editors. Just because you hate those editors because of the fact that they reject every article that you send them DOES NOT mean they are responsible for spelling and grammar errors. The job of the /. editors is to approve stories that are interesting and relevant to slashdot.org

barryman 5000, pleez goo bak an laern Eanglich.

Re:It's not really their fault... (2, Informative)

William_Lee (834197) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469612)

I guess /. has redefined the definition of "editor" and forgot to tell the rest of us.

editor
SYLLABICATION: editor
PRONUNCIATION: AUDIO: d-tr KEY
NOUN: 1. One who edits, especially as an occupation.
2. One who writes editorials.
3. A device for editing film, consisting basically of a splicer and viewer.
4. Computer Science A program used to edit text or data files.
ETYMOLOGY: Late Latin ditor, publisher, from Latin ditus, past participle of dere, to publish. See edit.

edit
SYLLABICATION: edit
PRONUNCIATION: AUDIO: dt KEY
TRANSITIVE VERB: Inflected forms: edited, editing, edits
1a. To prepare (written material) for publication or presentation, as by correcting, revising, or adapting. b. To prepare an edition of for publication: edit a collection of short stories. c. To modify or adapt so as to make suitable or acceptable: edited her remarks for presentation to a younger audience.
2. To supervise the publication of (a newspaper or magazine, for example).
3. To assemble the components of (a film or soundtrack, for example), as by cutting and splicing.
4. To eliminate; delete: edited the best scene out.

Re:It's not really their fault... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469635)

But thats what an editor is supposed to do. Edit the text.

Re:It's not really their fault... (1)

Johan Veenstra (61679) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469667)

In that case, they should reject submissions with such glaring grammatical errors: "sorry your submission has been rejected, because of your sub standard use of the english language".

But I guess that's too much to ask from editors, who do not even check the content (dead links, substance), and continue to post duplicates.

gonna party like it's 1999 (1)

justins (80659) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469497)

All geometry and vertex processing will be done in software in the host computer.

Geometry acceleration was a newfangled, fancy feature five years ago. Something that previously required thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars worth of hardware. Now it's a considered a given, and there is no reason to buy a card without it.

This card is going to suck. :(

Re:gonna party like it's 1999 (1)

dteichman2 (841599) | more than 9 years ago | (#11469657)

Why the hell is this even a possibility? Pick up a fucking Radeon card (any model #) and put it in your computer. Every Radeon card seems to work fine on any flavor of any OS. You can buy a Radeon 7000 now for cheap. Guess what? All of them have built-in Geometry and vertex processing.

Try playing and Half Life mod in "Software" mode and tell me the kind of performance you get. That's a lot better than you'd get from this concept card (which happens to be very backwards).

Please excuse me. I need to get back to Intel about my new idea for a "Open Pentium." It'll run at the speed of a 486, but at least everyone will know exactly how it works. Although, something tells me that people would rather have decent performance, and not wait a week to install a modern OS.

I am going to buy that thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469542)

I am going to buy one once it comes out. To have a system which is reliable and complete open source is to me far more important than playing the latest games at high frame rates - something I have not done anyway for a long time.

$200 might be a bit steep, but if it works well...

Find good computer prices!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469637)

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mail@bmtminformatica.com

A truly open source card (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11469654)

I realize that it would be expensive but it seems to me that a truly open source card would be something very general purpose with an fpga or similar. That way everyone could have something to develop on and you would therefore get more developers. Once a fpga based design became popular enough then somebody could sell a cheap (non-programmable) version based on asics.

(It is telling that half the posts so far seem be concerned with grammar. hmm)
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