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Could TNG Stunt Casting Save 'Enterprise'?

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the vote-off-the-space-island dept.

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Tycoon Guy writes "It seems Star Trek: Enterprise isn't about to go down without a fight. TrekToday is reporting that Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis will guest-star on the season finale of Star Trek: Enterprise, to reprise their Next Generation roles of William T. Riker and Deanna Troi. Hello stunt casting! The news has been confirmed on Sirtis' official fan site."

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firstpost (-1, Offtopic)

popo (107611) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476147)

yay

Captain (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476149)

I'm sensing a lame guest star...

Trek Sucks! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476151)

Boo Trek, yay Wars!

Wouldn't this require a time-portal thingy? (5, Funny)

Dancin_Santa (265275) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476153)

How about they just do it the old fashioned way and revive the series by reversing polarity and firing anion thrusters to create a temporary wormhole that can act as a gateway to the ratings.

No... That didn't work at all for Voyager...

Time Travel...you are sooo close (3, Funny)

Sarge-001 (813499) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476253)

Deanna will travel back in time to set an insidious series of events in place that will ripple through the very fabric of space-time...and make sure she doesn't marry that slut poindexter with a beard Riker! All she has to do is jetison some drive plasma, reverse polarity on the intake valve and say three times "He is an ass, what was I thinking?"

Re:Wouldn't this require a time-portal thingy? (5, Interesting)

DarkEdgeX (212110) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476330)

Voyager finished it's seven season run (as did Deep Space Nine and The Next Generation).

Enterprise is the first series running the risk of being cut short (which would be unfortunate with Manny Coto now steering the show in a much more fun and interesting direction this season-- if you tuned out during the first 3 seasons, you should tune in and give it a shot).

Re:Wouldn't this require a time-portal thingy? (0)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476400)

Tell me, doctor, where are we going this time
Is this the 50's, or 1999
All I wanted to do - was play my guitar and sing

So take me away, I don't mind
But you better promise me, I'll be back in time
Gotta get back in time

Don't bet your future, on one roll of the dice
Better remember, lightning never strikes twice
Please don't drive at eight, don't wanna be late again

So take me away, I don't mind
But you better promise me, I'll be back in time
Gotta get back in time
Gotta get back in time
Get me back in time

Gotta get back in time
Gotta get back in time
Get back, get back

Oh Dear God (2, Insightful)

datastalker (775227) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476155)

Please, no. Just let it get cancelled and go the way of the dodo like it should!

Re:Oh Dear God (2, Insightful)

randallpowell (842587) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476254)

Too long have we been plagued by ST shows after NG. Time to let the series die. It's bad enough Care Bears and Strawberry Shortcake are coming back. Let these things die honorablly and move on.

Re:Oh Dear God (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476373)

sorry but i think enterprise is the best offspring of the whole startrek franchise

and t'pol (sp?) is hot :)

Re:Oh Dear God (1)

DetrimentalFiend (233753) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476431)

Are you kidding? I never could get into Enterprise and always thought it was the worst of the franchise. Although the earlier seasons of Deep Space Nine were good, the later seasons made it, without a doubt in my mind, the best of the ST francises. TNG is probably my second favorite, but Riker Troi are probably the two characters I liked the least. Go figure.

Re:Oh Dear God (5, Funny)

big_groo (237634) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476296)

Apparently, the last scene in this episode is a shot of 'The Fonze' donning water skiis.

/. poll needed (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476319)

What should be done with Star Trek, TNG, DS9, EP?

1. Kill It
2. Get Michael Moore to add fiction
3. Send it to the hollow-plot-deck
4. Reincarnate it as a musical
5. Zap
6. Read Cowboy Neal's Nanotech Martini

Re:Oh Dear God (4, Funny)

Epistax (544591) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476399)

Are you implying the dodo deserved it?

Great... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476156)

Murder the legacy of TNG to try and save the tripe that is Enterprise. *awaits being modded -1, troll*

Re:Great... (1)

exley (221867) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476289)

Yeah, I'll second that. I've been trying to make myself feel better by just saying, in my own mind, that Enterprise isn't Star Trek, but things like the potential of this story aren't helping any.

nah.... (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476157)

the show will still suck.
unless they stop travelling through time. and get the regular actors to learn how to act....

Re:nah.... (1)

billsoxs (637329) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476287)

...get the regular actors to learn how to act....

Yeah like William Shatner.

Even so, in Dallas (Dullus?) it is never on at a consistant time so now why would one expect the ratings be really low.

Rate this 'off topic'

Re:nah.... (2, Insightful)

miu (626917) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476354)

unless they stop travelling through time

I'd like to see a time travel moratorium in scifi. Unless the writer can improve on the one of the existing time travel stories or invent a new one then maybe they should just stay away.

There is a reason all the good time travel stories are short stories: time travel is destructive to structure, a short story can sustain that weakness and even make it part of the mood, a novel or long story cannot.

Re:nah.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476386)

Oh, give me a break - the acting on Enterprise is leagues ahead of Stargate and its ilk, yet that show is more popular than ever.

Now if only they cancelled Stargate, and used the money from that to bring back Firefly or Farscape...

DEATH to muslims! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476158)

Muslims are the scum of the world! They are violent monkies who kill at random!

Re:DEATH to muslims! (-1, Offtopic)

Brian Brian (849676) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476224)

Wow. I thought long and hard about replying to this. I mean: 1) I don't want to give this validity 2) Anything I say won't matter to the original poster. 3) The original poster must be from the south so they can't read. 4) I have had many pet monkeys - none of them were muslims.

They'd have to travel back in time... (0, Redundant)

racecarj (703239) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476159)

Just like me to actually get a first post.

Re:They'd have to travel back in time... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476192)

Just like you to fucking fail it, you mean.

Re:They'd have to travel back in time... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476314)

har!

Stick a fork in it please... (4, Insightful)

TempusMagus (723668) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476160)

Does anyone really care? I'm sorry but with Battlestar Galactica reinventing the science fiction genre in the same fashion the Sopranos did to the gangster genre - it's hard to watch anything Trek related. It's the visual equivalent of listening to Cyndi Lauper records from the '80s - you can't believe people ever liked the stuff when you look at it with some hindsight.

Plus, IMHO, most science fiction is really science-themed fantasy. I enjoy the Stargate shows most times (with all the light beings and whatnots) but I don't really count it is SciFiction. Trek was true SCIFI but after years and years of prostituting its original ideas for meagre ratings - there is nothing but a shell. I mean how many Borg related episodes did they drag out for sweeps? It's like gay marriage and abortion to republicans - whenever they wanted to get attention they would drag out the Borg! I'm sure the last Enterprise episode will feature a half-vulcan/half-borg Picard with large breasts.

Re:Stick a fork in it please... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476182)

Ok mr. metaphor/simile

It's like my cock going up your ass, and you saying "Thank you sir, may I have another"

Re:Stick a fork in it please... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476188)

BS:G reinventing sci-fi? It's a good show, but you've got to be kidding me. You're obviously a rabid fanboy. *vaccinates you*

Re:Stick a fork in it please... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476205)

Battlestar Galactica is for geeks. Err, wait..

Re:Stick a fork in it please... (4, Interesting)

dswensen (252552) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476235)

The new Galactica is really good, despite my initial misgivings about it -- but it bears no resemblance to Trek at all. Trek is, and has been, about the future, humanity's place in it, and how we will deal with all the issues that make up being human -- with some rubber monsters thrown in. It's "Wagon Train to the Stars" with some Utopian elements added in.

Galactica is essentially a bleak war movie in space. There is none of the technophilia that Trek so prominently features, and the emphasis is on finding and killing an implacable, deadly enemy. It's dark, it's gritty, and very entertaining, but comparing it with Trek is compeltely apples and oranges to me. Nothing against Galactica, but I like a little optimism in my visions of the future sometimes.

I could watch a few more seasons of Galactica, but it seems like it's playing most of its cards in the first season. If Galactica is the "new face" of sci-fi, I think it will get pretty boring pretty quickly.

Re:Stick a fork in it please... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476321)

The new Galactica is much better than I thought it would be but I still miss Space: Above and Beyond.

What .,. it's still on.,. Didn't notice ... (1)

Tungbo (183321) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476335)

But Galatica is hardly innovative. Firefly was the only SciFi TV with some innovations at all in the past few years. Outlook is bleak indeed.

Re:What .,. it's still on.,. Didn't notice ... (1)

TempusMagus (723668) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476345)

And water is not wet. If you are going to make sweeping statements provide an example so we point out your errant though processes.

Re:Very well put (2, Insightful)

CTO1 (850830) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476379)

Stargate and Battlestar Galactica are the premier scifi shows on today. I'll admit, the last couple of seasons of Stargate have really been reaching beyond the original storyline, but not in a bad way. I firmly believe Richard Dean Anderson is the primary reason why that show doesn't suck. Battlestar Galactica, on the other hand, is extremely watchable. The realism, subtle plotlines, the intensity of some of the characters (Cmdr Adama)...it just all adds up to a great show. I agree that Star Trek needs some time off; movies included. If it ever is to return, a new set of writers and directors will have to take the helm and come up with something new/different/better/that doesn't suck.

Re:Stick a fork in it please... (4, Insightful)

DarkEdgeX (212110) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476419)

Does anyone really care? I'm sorry but with Battlestar Galactica reinventing the science fiction genre in the same fashion the Sopranos did to the gangster genre - it's hard to watch anything Trek related. It's the visual equivalent of listening to Cyndi Lauper records from the '80s - you can't believe people ever liked the stuff when you look at it with some hindsight.

First, let me say, I thoroughly enjoy Battlestar Galactica. But I take offense to the idea that just because BSG discovered that handheld style camera movements makes for a more dramatic show makes it worthy of being presented as "reinventing" science fiction. Take away the handheld camera style and you're still left with your traditional sci-fi drama. BSG is just lucky in that it doesn't have to respect canon and can kill off or change characters however it sees fit.

So give Trek a break, it's doing a lot better this season story-wise with Manny Coto, and if there is a season 5 I'm sure we can expect a whole lot from him.

Oh, no more... (5, Insightful)

dswensen (252552) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476162)

Much as I wouldn't mind seeing Frakes and Sirtis in action again, it would only be because for nostalgia's sake. When your show becomes characterized by this kind of hysterical desperation, it's a pretty good sign you should just let it die.

TNG and DS9 were at the top of their repective games in their later seasons -- they just got better and better, IMHO. Neither shows needed this kind of nonsense to shore them up for another handful of weary episodes. If Enterprise doesn't have enough momentum to propel it after all this time, then it's just plain out of gas, and stunt casting is not going to save it.

Especially when I, as a not-so-fanatical Star Trek watcher, can probably tell you the plot of this episode right now. Picard and Troi, on board the Titan on a diplomatic mission to Head-Ridge VII, run into a subspace anomaly and are transported back in time, and must deal with the cultural and technological gaps while...zzz...

I'd advise letting Enterprise, and Trek, rest in peace for another few years while it still has some dignity, but unfortunately that moment is already long past (for me, the last of TNG's dignity departed with the introduction of Retarded Data in Nemesis). I guess now the best we can hope for is that these sorts of decisions don't bury the franchise altogether.

Re:Oh, no more... (1)

bsharitt (580506) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476203)

Well DS9 did it too. They brought in Worf as a regular character in order to make it more attractive the TNG fans.

Re:Oh, no more... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476228)

I find your sig offensive.

Re:Oh, no more... (1)

mekkab (133181) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476257)

dude, this is totally oT, but thats a great sig!

Re:Oh, no more... (1)

dswensen (252552) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476266)

True, but it wasn't a guest spot, it was an addition to the cast. They also developed Worf's character in ways he could never have hoped for on TNG, and tied him in to the plot.

It may have been a ratings ploy, but it also paid off from a storytelling and character perspective. I have my doubts you'll be able to say the same of this.

Re:Oh, no more... (1)

bsharitt (580506) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476305)

I agree with you. I like how they were able to expand Worf's character.

Re:Oh, no more... (1)

dgatwood (11270) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476407)

In the case of Worf (and probably the Chief as well), it might have been a contractual thing. Both those characters were basically latecomers to the TNG series. Technically Worf appeared in the first season, but his character seemed like a fairly minor role until the death of Tasha Yar.

The point is that their contracts may have said "n episodes" rather than "n seasons", in which case it might have been easier for the studio to transfer those episodes to a sequel (DS9) than to try to get out of the contract.....

Just a thought.

Re:Oh, no more... (1)

Brandon One (760352) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476284)

Really, great sig.

Almost as good as your name.

Re:Oh, no more... (5, Insightful)

harlows_monkeys (106428) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476402)

Well DS9 did it too. They brought in Worf as a regular character in order to make it more attractive the TNG fans

Two key differences. First, he was, as you note, a regular character. It wasn't just a guest appearance.

Second, it made sense in terms of the story. One of the things DS9 did much better than both earlier and later ST series is flesh out other races (yes, other ST series had important aliens, but they were isolated...only DS9 made it so the whole alien race was important--compare, for example, the Ferengi on DS9 and TNG). The Klingons were an important part of the ongoing story. Even if there had been no Worf from TNG, it would have made sense for them to invent the character for DS9.

Re:Oh, no more... (1)

Hamhock (73572) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476276)

Neither shows needed this kind of nonsense to shore them up for another handful of weary episodes.

I seem to remember Scotty and Bones on TNG at different points. How is that different?

Re:Oh, no more... (1)

dswensen (252552) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476309)

TNG wasn't barely avoiding cancellation at the time. Enterprise is. Also, McCoy guest starred in the pilot. Hard to justify that one as an effort to boost flagging ratings.

For the record, I thought the appearances of both guest stars were pretty sub-par.

Ya know what's really great? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476164)

Marina Sirtis is still incredibly hot.

Re:Ya know what's really great? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476194)

Marina Sirtis is still incredibly hot.

Yum!

Re:Ya know what's really great? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476352)



www.marinasirtis.tv/ ... timeout, why????

I remember (2, Informative)

Raul654 (453029) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476167)

When TNG started, people were afraid it wouldn't suceed without having to bring back members of the original crew. And while it did eventually bring most of them back in some form or another (McCoy in the pilot, Spock in Season 4, Scotty in season 6, and Kirk in Generations), it spread it out so much that it was fairly innocuous. On the other hand, this is a blatant attempt to appeal to TNG's popularity to save what has been an otherwise horrible series.

Fade Away... (2, Insightful)

mesach (191869) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476170)

Can't they just let it fade away instead of making everyone HATE it.

Re:Fade Away... (1)

mboverload (657893) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476267)

No, as long as they are making money they couldn't care less. Ethics dont make business sense.

w00t for capitalism!

Gee... that'll save 'em (4, Insightful)

popo (107611) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476172)


So... their strategy to save a show which suffers from incredibly poor casting, is to bring two of the previous generation's casting gaffes.

I can't think of two more expendible characters from TNG (After wesley crusher of course) than Riker and Troi.

Re:Gee... that'll save 'em (5, Insightful)

hammerofhope (852653) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476225)

Troi maybe, but Riker? Come on, the man is a legend.

Re:Gee... that'll save 'em (1)

bsharitt (580506) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476248)

I would like to see a new series featuring the Titian with Riker in command. Maybe bring back Worf as his first officer(ok that may be a bit too far).

Re:Gee... that'll save 'em (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476389)

I liked Ryker, the beard-thing was comforting.

And as for Troi ... come on - how to attract teenage boys to a show, put a bird in a short skirt on the bridge.

Save it? (1)

nuclear305 (674185) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476179)

I doubt it. The time-traveling alien Nazis was the worst part of the season. Everything else was at least watchable.

I thought season 4 was an improvement, and at least they didn't screw up the storyline with Brent Spiner.

Oh, and as for it being confirmed on Sirtis' official site...as far as I can tell any reference to such a confirmation was removed.

Re:Save it? (1)

the_sidewinder (850641) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476218)

StarTrek needs to die for at least twenty years before it should have a new series, it has been ovr milked, and needs to have a looooooong nap before some NEW writers even think of trying again

Unicenter TNG can save your Enterprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476181)

That is what I first read that title as. Too many days in the corporate datacenter...

WTF (0, Offtopic)

Rollie Hawk (831376) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476191)

is an official fan site?

Re:WTF (0, Offtopic)

rokzy (687636) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476283)

an official site created for fans. it's not difficult.

Re:WTF (0, Offtopic)

DarkEdgeX (212110) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476347)

Wow, and who authorizes these official fan sites? I mean, who's the "go to" guy to find out if a fan site is really official or if it's just a poser fan site?

Am I the Only One (4, Interesting)

BlakeLupa (767754) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476198)

Wow, am I the only one who likes Enterprise, and hates Battle Star in any incarnation? One hot andriod is no enough for me to get interested in Battle Star!

Re:Am I the Only One (3, Interesting)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476230)

No, I am right there with you personally. Enterprise was far more enjoyable to me, on average, than TNG. (At least after they raised Marina's neckline. Don't you think humans will be able to handle cleavage in the 23rd or 24th or whatver century?)

Re:Am I the Only One (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476348)

> Don't you think humans will be able to handle cleavage in the 23rd or 24th or whatver century?)

watching the usa for the past few years and figuring it will be on the whole world like that at some point.
Yes, they will have big problems with any cm of skin shown, esp. cleavage

Re:Am I the Only One (1)

Marko DeBeeste (761376) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476313)

Yes.

Re:Am I the Only One (1)

SimGuy (611829) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476394)

I suspect a lot of the negative comments in this thread are from viewers that haven't watched any episodes this season. I am enjoying a lot of the shows that have taken the opportunity to finally tie in to Trek history and future.

Previously a lot of the storylines deviated from anything that's been recorded in the Trek documented history. But now, they've changed direction a bit. I'd really hate to lose this series at this point, because it feels to me like Trek's one and only shot to fill in the pre-Original Series blanks in the timeline and strongly develop an understanding of how the Federation and Starfleet came to be.

Going back any further would set the show at about right now, which doesn't work, and going much ahead puts them back in Kirk's days, which has been done, and probably can't be again without systematically rewriting everything we know about that time period.

Re:Am I the Only One (2, Interesting)

kooshvt (86122) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476396)

I enjoy Enterprise. I do agree that they need to lay off of the time travel though. I have not seen the new Battlestar Galactica, it's hasn't made its way into my schedule yet. It's funny, I didn't start watching Enterprise until I downloaded a few shows from suprnova a few years ago. I probably would not have gotten hooked on it if I hadn't. I would like to download the episodes of Battlestar that I have missed and determine if it is worth watching. Oh well I guess it is something I just will have to miss out on it, or search around for a replacement site. I am the only one who actually used bittorrent to download tv shows at my convenience to determine what was actually worth watching at it's regular time? I got hooked on Scrubs and Arrested Development the same way. I know I could set my DVR to record new shows but I don't watch commercials so I never know what or when new shows are coming on.

Jumping the Horta (1)

STrinity (723872) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476209)

So Manny Coto's plan for saving Trek is to use Jump the Shark.com as a checklist?

Re:Jumping the Horta (1)

DarkEdgeX (212110) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476359)

Actually, the episode is to be penned by Berman and Braga.

Yes, it could be awful. Here's hoping they don't screw it up too badly...

Props for bringing up the horta (1)

miu (626917) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476410)

The under-appreciated horta, the basis of one of the truly great sight gags of Futurama (the other being the robot taking his rust monster to the vet), and the best "I'm a doctor, not an X" line of the original Star Trek.

Truly, the writers for Enterprise are not worthy to be burned into a smoking smear by this magnificent creature.

yeah great idea (1)

Foo2rama (755806) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476212)

I'm going to guess time travel... teh Time travel episodes always where the worst, great way to get people to watch. Although to prevent flameagethe time travel episode that brought back Tasha Yar and placed her in the past was a great way to bring the character back.

EMPATHY ALERT (3, Interesting)

karmaflux (148909) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476215)

I sense a deep feeling of forboding...

Battlestar Galactica better than Star Trek (1)

SamSeaborn (724276) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476220)

Battlestar Galactica is the best sci-fi TV show since Star Trek: TNG.

Time for trekies to let Trek sleep for a while so it can make a worth while come back in ten years.

Drop Trek, and start watching Galactica -- it'd be a shame if such a well-written, well-acted, and well-produced show like Galactica doesn't do well.

Sam

Re:Battlestar Galactica better than Star Trek (1)

dswensen (252552) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476282)

Why would you have to drop one to watch the other? Are they airing at the same time or something?

If they are, Galactica wins in my book, but I'm just curious.

Re:Battlestar Galactica better than Star Trek (1)

Azh Nazg (826118) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476351)

Well, IIRC, Trek has been moved into the same timeslot as Battlestar Galactica............

Re:Battlestar Galactica better than Star Trek (1)

DarkEdgeX (212110) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476372)

LOL.

I know that BSG is a great show and all that, but c'mon.. there's room for more than one good sci-fi show on TV you know...

There's 168 hours in a week, I'd like to have more than just 43 minutes of good/decent sci-fi, thank you.

Re:Battlestar Galactica better than Star Trek (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476433)

Galactica does have good writing, and pretty good acting, but the production is just annoying. I understand the decisions behind the 'amateur documentary' style of photography, but it is so overdone that it really prevents me from being able to truly enjoy the series.

I never bothered with Enterprise untill... (1, Flamebait)

rokzy (687636) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476227)

... the last /. story. then I downloaded series 4 and it wasn't so bad. currently getting series 3.

how come they changed their position on calling it "Enterprise" and not Star Trek: Enterprise"?

I hope they keep it going. there's no reason not too. if you don't like it DON'T WATCH IT YOU 'TARD. your TV does have an off switch, or at least a change channel switch. failing that, just throw a blanket over it.

and don't talk about "ruining the reputation" and "devaluing previous Star Trek". that's crap. Star Trek is far too big for that. if the original motion picture didn't ruin the show, then Enterprise sure as hell won't.

The answer: (3, Funny)

mboverload (657893) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476233)

BSD..er...Enterprise is dead.

Re:The answer: (1)

randallpowell (842587) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476299)

NetCraft confirmed it too.

Big clue (1)

stox (131684) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476243)

"Enterprise showrunner Manny Coto recently revealed the series' season finale was being written by Rick Berman and Brannon Braga."

It's done, stick a fork in it.

When exactly did this show jump the shark? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476264)

I vote for bringing back Brent Spiner...

Bring Back The X-Men Again! (1)

meehawl (73285) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476268)

I think they should bring back the X-Men again [google.com] for good measure!

Jolene Blalock (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476288)

I saw a clip of her naked and then stopped watching the show. I wonder if all the star trek women posed nude before the shows started airing would there have been as large a fan base?

I sense.... fear! (1)

Chibi (232518) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476290)

A friend of mine in high school liked to rag on early seasons of TNG. He especially like making fun of Counselor Troi's vague dialogue, e.g., "I sense... fear!"

I wonder what Marina Sirtis' webserver was feeling after this article was posted? Anyway, I feel a bit icky having Slashdotted her server with, well, Slashdotters. The only thing ickier would be if it had been Natalie Portman's site. ;)

OK, give the show a chance (5, Insightful)

runenfool (503) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476307)

Despite the fact that this is probably the last season being abandoned on a Friday night ... I think Enterprise is finally hitting its groove. I know everyone has their opinion, but while it isn't comparable to the very best of DS9 or even TNG, its certainly miles ahead of Voyager in terms of quality. I don't think its the casting that's necessarily weak - but probably more the characters. Still, TNG didn't have characters as good as TOS ... and DS9 was weaker than TNG until they brought Worf aboard. It took Avery Brooks until probably Season 3 or 4 to really start getting into Sisko ... he wasn't like Patrick Stewart who had a great screen presence almost from the beginning (sorry, it took me a while to get used to the bald captain :) ). Voyager never .. NEVER had good characters .. at least the new series has Hoshi :) And really there isn't anyone groan inducing like Neelix (which is strange - because the doctor kind of reminds me of him - just not annoying) or Nog from DS9 or Wesley (sorry Wil .. still think *you're* cool) from TNG.

Seriously ... go back and watch enterprise lately .. I think they are doing a great job. Not as good as it could be, and certainly not as "cool" (now the in thing is to be anti Star Trek) as Battlestar (now that we decided not to kill anyone for a female Starbuck and human cylons) or Stargate (but not Atlantis, because thats NOT cool in the eyes of the SF culture police) ... but they are making it entertaining at least ...

xindhi (1)

bluness (534396) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476311)

I got depressed and stopped watching when every show was about xindhi.... a little too much like terrorists for me

Re:xindhi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476337)

That was the intent. Terrorist aliens are timely and provide valuable social commentary. Ditto replacing the word "gay" with "Vulcan" and "gay sex" with "mind-meld."

Watch the show if you think I'm kidding or trolling.

Kill it, stop the pain! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476318)

The people involved with Star trek need to take a few years off, look at the canon and then come up with stories that make sense and work within that framework.

This game of one-upmanship with every episode affecting the "Ultiimate Fate of the Federation"(TM) has gotten real old.

DS9 did well because they had stories about characters people cared about and built the large "impending federation doom" over time when people already cared about what was happening.

Thankfully Sci-fi nowadays has Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis, the new Galactica shows promise and a new B5 movie(B5:The Memory of Shadows) starts filming this year.

What would save Enterprise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476333)

Its not that we are 'Trekked Out' and tired of the Star Trek theme. I still watch TNG, DS9, and Voyager an enjoy them.

All it would take is well written episodes. The Enterprise series to me didn't start to get interesting or seem well written until the Xindi first appeared in a sphere that disintegrated part of Florida. After that the writting seemed to get better.

Keep it interesting folks.

The key to TNG success was Patrick Stewart (1)

mc6809e (214243) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476363)


The the other cast were good, especially Gates McFadden as Crusher, but that show would not have made it without the strength of Stewart.

Unless he shows up, I'm not watching.

To your battle stations! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476371)

Stardate 209323.30934

We have entered a region of unknown and dangerous space. We have full sensors recording any possible signs of threat

(intercom) This is your captain speaking. We are under direct financial attack, and are being threatened with the possiblity of being taken offline! How dare they treat us like scum! Prepare for all out defensive manuvers! Hold on folks!

YATTP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476388)

Yet Another Time Travel Plot!

Enterprise has beaten the proverbial horse to death with contrived time travel plots. Just when I thought this season put the "time travel" claptrap behind. Please Berman I beg you, no more! No more!!

Just let it die already. (2, Insightful)

humberthumbert (104950) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476390)


I watched a coupla episodes here and there...and the damn Vulcan chick was always getting her tits out on the slightest pretext.

Don't get me wrong -- I LOVE TITS.

But I know where to get pr0n when I wanna look at them, thank you very much Star Trek.

When tits and ass becomes a major selling point
of a show it's just demeaning to the viewers and kinda sad.

Some issue with the Battlestar Galactica remake. Having cute girls on the show is cool, but give them better roles than serving as eye candy, damnit.

Titan tie-in? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11476397)

Rumors flew about a series based on Riker's command of the U.S.S. Titan after "Nemesis" - maybe this is an attempt to transition to a new series?

Kill Archer, oh hell... kill 'em all... (1)

popo (107611) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476415)



No seriously. If the writers had any sense they'd kill off Archer. Its the only way to save the show. He's so awful he makes my head hurt. He's stiffer than Kevin Costner with rigormortis. He sucked in Quantum Leap and now he's brought truckloads of "suck-age" right along with him in to Trek-land.

And can we lose the whole T'Pol+Trip love connection. Its so cheese. Better yet, can we kill T'Pol too? Not that I have anything against tits-on-a-stick, but can anyone bear watching this nasty-ass fake-titted Los Angeles pr0n-star with way too much cosmetic surgery pretend to be an emotionless Vulcan? Pretending to be from San Francisco would be a stretch for this "actress".

And then get a new friggin ship while you're at it. The silver, intentionally-retro look of the ship is just plain weak. What is this, "Battleship Potemkin"? The Enterprise looks like a precursor to a submarine. The set designers seem to have forgotten that while the show is set before TNG, its still supposed to be *our future*. God its ugly.

And can we get some unhealthy people please? Christ, Battlestar Galactica introduced an alcoholic, a pathological liar, a cancer patient and a dysfunctional family in its first 10 minutes. Does everyone need to be such a goody-two-shoes on this ship? As it stands now, Ned Flanders would fit right in.

Oh what do I care... I already cancelled my Tivo season pass... I couldn't take it anymore...

Reprise? (1)

DustMagnet (453493) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476422)

Wouldn't that be preprise. I'm not sure, since I've never quite figured out all this "temporal" stuff, but I know Enterprise is before Next Generation.

The "season finale"? (2, Interesting)

FuturePastNow (836765) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476436)

If Riker and Troi will be in the season finale, that probably means it'll be a cliffhanger...so if Enterprise gets cancelled, we'll never find out how it ends. I know the show isn't that great, but seriously, that would be a very sad way for a Star Trek series to end.

Get a stunt cast from... (5, Funny)

The Fanta Menace (607612) | more than 9 years ago | (#11476444)

...DeForest Kelley, and I'll be impressed.

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