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XM and Sirius Merger?

samzenpus posted more than 9 years ago | from the one-satellite-is-enough dept.

Digital 197

chipset writes "Well, it seems Sirius and XM are in talks again. This story from FoxNews indicates they are in merger discussions and want to expand their reach into all communications from space. This includes Cell, Music, and TV. I would love to see something like this take place. Give DirecTV and DishNetwork a little competition."

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radio is gay (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487253)

steal your music like everyone else.

Give DirecTV and Dish a little competition?!?!?!?! (4, Insightful)

sulli (195030) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487258)

By reducing competition in satellite radio? No thanks.

Re:Give DirecTV and Dish a little competition?!?!? (3, Informative)

savagedome (742194) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487270)

I think the Sirius CEO denied the marger.

http://www.forbes.com/2005/01/26/0126autofacescan0 4.html/ [forbes.com]

Re:Give DirecTV and Dish a little competition?!?!? (2, Funny)

Zorilla (791636) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487314)

No word yet on the Homer-er from the XM CEO.

Re:Give DirecTV and Dish a little competition?!?!? (1)

number one duck (319827) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487784)

There is usually a hush-hush phase during the initial barter for mergers of this kind.

Re:Give DirecTV and Dish a little competition?!?!? (5, Informative)

FrYGuY101 (770432) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487281)

Don't worry.

It's a hoax [forbes.com] .

Re:Give DirecTV and Dish a little competition?!?!? (1)

bigdogs (90229) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487704)

It's a hoax

A false news report from Fox?! Say it isn't so!

Re:Give DirecTV and Dish a little competition?!?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487747)

A false news report from Fox?! Say it isn't so!
It isn't so.

It was a false news report from the New York Post, that Fox News picked up and quickly disproved.

Both companies, however, are News Corp. owned.

Re:Give DirecTV and Dish a little competition?!?!? (2, Funny)

AKnightCowboy (608632) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487994)

It's a hoax.

It is most certainly NOT a hoax. My brother's neighbor's cousin's roommate works for Sirius and he's positive he overheard something in the lunchroom about this.

Re:Give DirecTV and Dish a little competition?!?!? (2, Insightful)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487415)


Competition? You mean after I rip out my factory radio and replace it with another radio, just to try out the other service, and then if I liked the first one....

If there was a broadcast standard there would be competition. Right now it's two proprietary semi-monopolies for most consumers.

Re:Give DirecTV and Dish a little competition?!?!? (2, Funny)

pchan- (118053) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487989)

Don't worry.
If you look at the slash logos on top, you'll see the logo of Digital Electronics Corporation, and Albert Einstein's head. Now, what do DEC and Einstein have in common, besides being dead? That's right, absolutely nothing. This proves that neither the submitter, nor the slashdot editor, actually has any idea what they're doing. Therefore, this story is probably bullshit.
QED.

How would it give sat TV competition? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487261)

They aren't in the same market.

Re:How would it give sat TV competition? (2, Interesting)

nuclear305 (674185) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487401)

The summary indicates they would expand their products into TV and other markets in addition to radio.

I forgive you for stopping midway through the summary to post a question which is answered in it...

Re:How would it give sat TV competition? (1)

Bluetick (516014) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487515)

I know most people don't RTFA, but you can at least RTFS.

Uh, no (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487264)

Sirius CEO says no merger. [billboardr...onitor.com]

Re:Uh, no (1)

game kid (805301) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487325)

Thank you for replying just when I pressed Back on my browser.

I would have ranted on about how I couldn't afford sat-radio before the merger--but now I just have new reason to hate Fox News. They like to report on rumors, or sensationally (especially their 10-o'clock news in New York [fox5ny.com] --it's hard to tell from the site though), or (worse) both.

We (I at least) need more competition, not less. I'm glad they won't merge.

Re:Uh, no (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487340)

Oh, yeah, I'm from the NY area too. I bitch about Fox 5's news coverage every day; they seem to over-dramatize everything.

Thanks. (0, Offtopic)

game kid (805301) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487419)

If only you were a reg'd user; you'd be on my Friends list this second.

Side note: Slashdot told me to Slow Down, Cowboy! It's cool, and helps prevet a Slashdot slashdotting I guess.

Re:Uh, no (2, Insightful)

Dutchmaan (442553) | more than 9 years ago | (#11488019)

..and Bungie said there was no deal with Microsoft days before they were bought out. Point being, you cannot trust business press releases..EVER.. they have no obligation to tell you the truth and they may very well be under some form of NDA...

Competition through merging. . . (0, Troll)

Swigger (740524) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487266)

Interesting.

Re:Competition through merging. . . (2, Funny)

chrismcdirty (677039) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487409)

Yes. I prefer competition through exclusive contracts, like EA and Take Two do things.

My Frist... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487267)

I WON

If this happens... (1)

benna (614220) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487269)

I hope they don't get rid of any of the superior Sirius programming. We don't need another merger like G4/TechTV (though I know, its not to that extreme).

Re:If this happens... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487712)

I agree. There isn't enough superior programming at Sirius to spare. Getting rid of ANY would be getting rid of all of it.

Get over this TOP 40 crap and get some real music. At XM.

dupe! (5, Interesting)

syukton (256348) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487276)

The thing I find funny is that the exact same story was submitted yesterday.
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl ?sid=05/01/2 6/2319240&tid=91&tid=14

I mean it's the exact same story.

The link in the blurb is the same.
The blurb itself is the same.
The submitter is the same.
EVEN THE POSTER IS THE SAME.

Last time it was in "digital" and "science" and this time it's in the same sections (which are, relatedly, a totally wrong categorization, for which samzenpus should be flogged with a bundle of cat5 ethernet cables)

I emailed daddypants@slashdot.org about this, to no avail; the dupe got posted anyhow.

Re:dupe! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487315)

wrong categorization

Concur and mourn. [dec.com]

Re:dupe! (4, Interesting)

rdwald (831442) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487323)

Actually, in addition to the similarities you noted, both stories were posted at the exact same time. Literally the only difference is the date. This makes me wonder if there wasn't some sort of software error that somehow duplicated the post. Either that, or samzenpus decided to make the most dupeful dupe in the history of /.

Re:dupe! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487439)

Well at the very least duping the article means the editor had to at least read the previous article he approved the day prior.

That's more than most editors do...

Re:dupe! (1)

dnaboy (569188) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487451)

Sweet. I hope this is a trend. I'm going to sit at my computer all day tomorrow and tick off the seconds until I get a shot at being the first to make some witty comment about Bill Gates' Lexus, maybe crap on the cost of Mac upgrades, and maybe, just maybe, I can be quick enough to get first post on day 3 of the XM / Sirius merger rumor.

Oh noes! (1)

Luke727 (547923) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487545)

Open Source Software is perfect. Mozilla having a closed bug reporting system is not hypocritical. Slashdot is perfect. The moderation system does not promote groupthink. Micro$oft (must be spelled with a $) is the disease. Linux is the cure. Only an American idiot who voted for Bush would insinuate that Slashdot or Open Source Software has bugs.

Seriously, though, I think it's odd that you got modded down so quickly. Wait; no, it's not odd. It's business as usual.

Re:dupe! (1)

daveo0331 (469843) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487654)

There's also some weird stuff going on with the comments [slashdot.org] in the previous posting of this story. Maybe they reposted the article so people would have a chance to comment? Either that, or there's some weird slashcode bug causing both the missing comments and the reposting.

Looks like they removed it.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11488090)

I check back later and find "Nothing for you to see here. Please move along."

What would be really funny (1)

suso (153703) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487783)

What would be even funnier is if the comments were the same too.

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What will it cost us? (2, Interesting)

kosmicki (770049) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487278)

I just hope they take over XM's price.

Re:What will it cost us? (1)

kosmicki (770049) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487308)

If it was real that is....

A wish (1)

bird603568 (808629) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487366)

I wish they would give college students free satilite radio, kind of like what Penn State does with napster. It would be a nice addition. Like a few years ago, I think it was Duke gave out free ipods. So one of them, give free recivers and service.<joke>It might cut back on piracy</joke>

Give DirecTV and DishNetwork a little competition? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487282)

Try creating a monopoly on satellite radio before the industry even gets off its feet

Re:Give DirecTV and DishNetwork a little competiti (2, Interesting)

nuclear305 (674185) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487650)

"Try creating a monopoly on satellite radio before the industry even gets off its feet"

I'm not sure the industry is going to get any more off its feet as far as additional competition.

This isn't exactly like a Windows -vs- Linux battle because these are both pieces of software that more often than not will run on the same hardware.

In the case of satellite radio you have to buy hardware specific to that company. I'd equate this more to Betamax -vs- VHS. Betamax may have been a superior format but for those who already had VHS, what incentive was there to buy another piece of proprietary hardware?

Of course there are kits that allow you to use satellite radio with a head unit that doesn't come satellite-ready that would allow switching, but even then you're still having to buy more proprietary hardware.

For there to be any new competition in the market, there is going to have to be innovation that takes satellite radio beyond its current form because nobody is going to care if yet another company pops up with commercial-free satellite radio that is identical to the others except for 1) Company name 2) Content offered.

Obligatory (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487285)

I, for one, welcome our new satellite radio overlords and wish them to be bought out by Microsoft, which would later merge with AT&T to create OGAC (One Giant American Company).

I don't think so. (5, Funny)

uncoveror (570620) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487286)

XM and their lone competitor merging? You can't be Sirius!

Because everybody's (4, Funny)

The Pi-Guy (529892) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487288)

Because everybody's VAX needs satellite radio for that high-quality audio sound! :)
joshua

Re:Because everybody's (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487937)

I hope they do some serious Alpha testing before trying to release that product.

rumor put down (I think) (1, Redundant)

bersl2 (689221) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487291)

My link's also a dupe. Mod up somebody else. (1)

bersl2 (689221) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487331)

OK?

Someone please (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487294)

Someone please educate this samzenpus that the "Digital" topic is _not_ appropriate for this item. (And, incidentally, that it's not appropriate for any recent item any more.)
Thanks, JAB

Not true says Mel! (2, Informative)

Stubtify (610318) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487296)

http://www.forbes.com/2005/01/26/0126autofacescan0 4.html all the lovely details on the official response to this merger. The story broke this morning and not an hour later Mel Karmazin (Sirius CEO) had a response out. Its up to you to decide if that's spin control or the truth.

Re:Not true says Mel! (0, Troll)

bersl2 (689221) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487316)

My source says that the story broke in the New York Post, obviously a paragon of journalistic integrity.

Huh? (1)

blackmonday (607916) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487298)

"I would love to see something like this take place"

You've got to be kidding me. We need competition in this market, to drive down prices and increase the quality of service. Plus, with Sirius you get a no-ClearChannel service. Can't say the same about XM.

Re:Huh? (2, Informative)

jerw134 (409531) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487403)

Actually, ClearChannel sold off their entire share of XM a while ago.

Exactly (1)

ad0gg (594412) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487542)

There's a reason why the FCC created two broadcast frequencies for sat radio. If Sirius wants to merge, I say allow them to but they can't bring over their frequency but allowed to auction off instead.

BTW, clearchannel only owns about a 2% stake in XM, I dont' even think they have representative on the board now. Considering clearchannel has been trying to get XM to drop their localized weather and traffic channels, they have very little control over XM.

Clear water complains to FCC about XM and Sirius [slashdot.org]

Hope they combine services (0)

digitalgimpus (468277) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487299)

That way for 1 fee:

Howard Stern
Opie & Anthony

awesome!

Really? (2, Informative)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487300)

I flipped past Fox News just a few minutes ago and they reported that the president of XM had no idea where this story came from.

Re:Really? (0, Offtopic)

game kid (805301) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487387)

I flipped past Fox News just a few minutes ago and they reported that the president of XM had no idea where this story came from.

Not surprised. I don't know about you all, but other people there like Bill O'Reilly come off as childish and overly conservative, and when Fox reports a story, it really does seem (again) conservative and sensationalized. They like to take press releases and Presidential speeches as truth, dismissing the other side of the story or showing it in a "bad" light. I'd rather see Tucker Carlson's newbie rants on Crossfire, and wait eagerly for the day when CNN apologizes for Jon Stewart's rant and puts Carlson back.

Re:Really? (1)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487431)

Please note my use of the words 'flipped past'.

;)

Re:Really? (1)

game kid (805301) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487504)

Noted and much appreciated.

Re:Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487814)

>but other people there like Bill O'Reilly come off as childish

And Slashdoters have a reputation for being mature??!!

Rumor Denied (5, Informative)

spin2cool (651536) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487305)

Yep - the denial was reported earlier today on several sources:
br / http://billboardradiomonitor.com/radiomonitor/news /business/digital/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_ id=1000777229

Nice. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487307)

Way to stay on the news.

this has been all over the net all day.
Including for the last few hours the fact that NO they are NOT in talks to Merge.

Maybe the "Editors" should be required to hit up news.google.com to check on stuff like this *BEFORE* they post news stories.

Will never happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487311)

Just like the FTC blocked the merger of DirecTV and Dish network, they'll block any planned merger of Sirius and XM.

While urbanites have plenty of cable/satellite/OTA options (for TV OR for radio), rural areas have far more limited choices. Taking away competition between the 2 sat giants (whether it's DirecTV/Dish or XM/Sirius involved), generally reduces the choices for rural communities by HALF.

they would give traditional media good competition (0)

alen (225700) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487329)

I think it's a good idea if they merge. Their real compatition is not each other, but traditional radio. Clearchannel knows this and that is why they own a large percentage of one of the companies. XM I think.

The playing field is all of media, not just satellite radio. It would be really nice if Sirius merged with XM and then another merger with Direct TV or Dish Network. The combined company would be big enough to be able to fund some really nice services. You think MyFi is nice, how about a handheld player where you can receive radio and TV at once?

For those that rant against "big corporations" this is a capital intensive business. Satellites cost a lot of money. Launching them is expensive. If something goes wrong, the entire company can go out of business. Being big is an advantage since it means you can fund redundancy and survive a catastrophe.

Re:they would give traditional media good competit (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487394)

Clearchannel knows this and that is why they own a large percentage of one of the companies. XM I think.
Repeat after me: Clear Channel no longer owns any substantial percentage of XM. [yahoo.com]

Re:they would give traditional media good competit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487421)

Hughs (who owns DirecTV).. also has investments in XM... so DirectTV and XM are owned alteast partially by the same company

Re:they would give traditional media good competit (2, Informative)

jerw134 (409531) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487423)

ClearChannel used to own part of XM, but they don't anymore.

Re:they would give traditional media good competit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487748)

WHERE DO YOU PEOPLE GET THIS CRAP???

Clear Channel does not own a significant portion of EITHER company. Clear Channel, at one point, owned a SMALL AMOUNT of stock. More than a year ago they SOLD those shares. Clear Channel has absolutely no voice or control in either company.

Why do people who know NOTHING about a subject post about it?

That would really suck (1)

mkop (714476) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487334)

It would be worse than say, oh HP and Compaq merging. Less competition is a very bad thing

Re:That would really suck (0, Troll)

mboverload (657893) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487482)

They were both crappy companies, not like anyone bought anything from them anyway.

Competition in some markets, but... (1)

dnaboy (569188) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487341)

I can understand wanting to encourage competition, but DirecTV and Dish already have some stiff competition from Cable. I really don't see this fundamentally changing that landscape. What does change though is that you would only have one provider of sattelite radio. In the end, I think there's a net negative effect on competition if this were to go through.

The one thing that I think would be really cool, but I'm not sure of the feasability of, would be to eliminate the need for a perfectly aimed dish for sattelite TV. I live in an area where it's impossible to get good line of sight for DirecTV. Does anyone know whether Sirius / XM could alleviate this problem, since apparently the radios can be used indoors? I know radio is a lot less bandwith, but I'm not sure whether that is the issue, or perhaps they use different frequencies, or possibly just have stronger signal strength.

Re:Competition in some markets, but... (1)

CrAlt (3208) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487765)

XM/Sirus get around LOS issues by using repeaters on cell towers. They also have buffers in them so if you drive under a overpass or something blocks LOS you have a few seconds before it blacks out.

TV uses MUCH higher bandwith..so much so that they need more then one bird in the sky to give you all the channels. DTV uses 3 and DISH uses 2 for most stuff..(they have more DISH has 2 other ones on my side of the the USA for Sky Angle and international programing etc). For DTV/DISH to work like sirus/XM they would have to scrap their whole system and come up with some crazy new tech... Aint gona happen anytime soon.

fake news story guys.. (1)

Acid-F1ux (582149) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487345)

Mel Karmazin characterized a New York Post report of a potential XM-Sirius merger as the "third rumor" he has had to deal with in his first eight weeks as Sirius CEO. "I have not met with the [XM] chair or the CEO, so I have no idea where this has come from," he said during his firm's Wednesday morning (1/26) earnings conference call. Commenting later in the call on a question about potential antitrust restrictions for such a merger, Karmazin said he would never try to predict what the government would or wouldn't approve, adding that he thought such a merger would be a "difficult deal to get through." According to Post writer Tim Arango, the two satellite competitors have been meeting lately to talk about the possibility of a merger but the discussions have not advanced. Among the topics reportedly discussed is how to maneuver antitrust concerns that would arise from what would amount to a monopoly in the fledgling satellite radio business. To alleviate those concerns, the Post suggests the two rivals' strategy would be to convince regulators that satellite radio is part of the exploding mobil music market. Combining XM and Sirius would ease a price war for content, reduce marketing costs and provide other cost efficiencies.

Re:fake news story guys.. (1)

xanadu-xtroot.com (450073) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487416)


  1. Howard, is that you?

Ha ha! (1)

zobier (585066) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487359)

WTF? [slashdot.org]

No! (0)

CrAlt (3208) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487379)

So we will be forced to have Clear Channel crap (They have a big part in XM) on the radio with NO choice...again? No thanks. I love my sirus and I like the fact XM is also there. It forces sirus to be always comming up with new stuff.

Why try and go after DISH/Echostar and DirectTV? Its not like there is much money there. Plus they would have to deal with those 2 long standing companys and the cable co AND now the telco's are getting in to the TV game. With fiber-to-home thats comming out soon DBS is going to be only sellable in remote areas.

Re:No! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487643)

Are you a moron? XM? Clear Channel? WTF are you smoking!?!? Whatever it is, keep away from me!

Re:No! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11488100)

IIRC, Clear Channel has so little stake left in XM, they are no longer on the Board of Directors and no longer have any influence in the direction XM takes. To me, that sounds like a very small part. Insignificant really.

For proof... I think this will suffice... [xmfan.com]

Why the DEC logo? (2)

Jozer99 (693146) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487412)

Why the DEC logo?

Re:Why the DEC logo? (5, Insightful)

kalidasa (577403) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487434)

I'm guessing that the category is marked "digital" in the submission interface, and the submitter is too young to remember DEC and thinks the category is for digital lifestyle devices.

Re:Why the DEC logo? (4, Informative)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487618)

{sigh} Last summer I had to explain this to my new 24-year-old coworker, who thought it was funny that one of our computer labs was full of old computers that bragged (with the above logo) about being "digital", as if that was some kind of fancy feature or something. The first computer I ever logged into was a PDP, I got most of my formal CS education using VAXen, and I even went to DECUS back in the early 90's, so it was a bit painful having to explain to him what DEC was, and that it was founded back when "digital equipment" was something pretty fancy.

Re:Why the DEC logo? (1)

Tim Fraser (16824) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487683)

I loved Digital's VT terminals. I've still got three, but none of the last few machines I've bought have RS-232 ports to connect them. Sad...

- Tim Fraser

Re:Why the DEC logo? (1)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487818)

Coincidentally, I learned a few weeks later from an older coworker that he'd once worked for DEC, and had done the case design for... of all things... the VT-100, a device which - as much as the $ prompt - was central to my computing experience in college. He seemed pleased to hear that... but less than thrilled about what it implied about his age. :)

Re:Why the DEC logo? (1)

RevDobbs (313888) | more than 9 years ago | (#11488121)

Last summer I had to explain this to my new 24-year-old coworker, who thought it was funny that one of our computer labs was full of old computers that bragged (with the above logo) about being "digital"

Response #1: "Why, sonny, you just just be thankful you weren't here last year... when we had all those micro computers!"

Response #2: "When I was your age, we all had three-button optical mice!"

Response #3: "Son, you say another ingorant thing like that that and I'll replace your desktop with a VT100 connected to a VAX running VMS."

Re:Why the DEC logo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487446)

I was just wondering the same thing.

I guess people have short memories, or Sam-Zen-Pus is a kid?

What Should Happen (2, Interesting)

tobes (302057) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487420)

While this is pretty unfounded, it does open the door to further speculation. My personal choice (if I were CEO of XM or Sirius) would be to acquire Real and merge my subscriber base with the Rhapsody subscribers. One account and you can stream Rhapsody to your computer or sat radio to your reciever. Personally, I'd subscribe to such a service.

Re:What Should Happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487866)

would that really be worth it?

how many subscribers do you think Rhapsody has? - both satellite radio companies already have online streaming service... xm charges for theirs, but offers higher quality than sirius does.

The name of the new company (1)

Anonymous Cowherd X (850136) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487450)

It's a good thing the merger rumour was just that because if it were true the new company would probably be named Sirius-XM. Serious sex, mmm... Now imagine a merger of the new company with SK-Earthlink... Ask a earthling: serious sex, mmm? I suspect alien involvement...

Not possible (1)

mboverload (657893) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487457)

I seriously doubt their satellites are equipped to broadcast video, or anything other than satellite radio for that matter.

And the name of the new company will be... (1)

kclittle (625128) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487476)

... Xirius.

No, xeriously!

FouxNews (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487501)

This just in from FoxNews.....
Um nevermind.....
We have breaking information from FoxNews corespondant....
Wait.....
OH! FoxNews is reporting.....
Damn it!
DAN RATHER DIDN'T CHECK HIS SOURCES!

The story from Fox News is... (0, Troll)

TheLittleJetson (669035) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487523)

"George Bush is the bestest president since JESUS!"

Stay tuned...

Clear channel and XM have nothing to do with each (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487600)

other....why does every moron on here say XM's content is from Clear Channel.

They have NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER.

morons.

Mark this offtopic (0, Offtopic)

neuroscr (132147) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487676)

But what does Sirius / XM have to do with the now defunc Digital? I think /. has some young people sorting articles now.

If it ain't broke... (3, Insightful)

interstellar_donkey (200782) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487678)

I really hope something like this doesn't happen.

I have Sirius, and I'm pleased as punch with it. I can't see how merging with XM (if the story is, in fact, true) would make things any better.

Sirius has some great stations with good DJs. The bigger you make the company, the more whitewashed it becomes. I don't know what XM is all about, but people who have it tell me they like it. That's fine. But a little compitition never hurt anyone. Monopolies, on the other hand, usually don't work, espically with something as subjective as music.

Re:If it ain't broke... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11487803)

on the other hand, I can't see why XM could possibly want to merge with Sirius .....Sirius is already bleeding $$ like no tommorow, locked into contracts which assume godlike performance, spread out across a billion shares to pay operating costs, and has a history of not meeting subscriber growth forcasts.

They may have good content, but only because they're making a major financial gamble.

XM has OK content, meets its forcasts, spends money conservatively, and has a large subscriber base.

The cultures are just too different. It's probably Sirius will be bought out, but the buyer would be viacom/clear channel, not XM.

One player in the satellite radio market... (2, Funny)

hendridm (302246) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487689)

I would love to see something like this take place.

I think most current XM and Serius customers who already think they're paying enough money would disagree.

I think Microsoft and God should merge - that way, you wouldn't have to worry about where you go when you die.

Re:One player in the satellite radio market... (1)

yuriismaster (776296) | more than 9 years ago | (#11488025)

I see it now...

"Where do you want to go today?" turns into:

"Where do you want to go when you die?"

Necessary for Viability (1)

chromakey (300498) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487756)

I think this needs to happen if satellite radio will be viable in 5+ years. There's too much overhead cost involved to split what some would call a niche market. Will the FCC allow it? I'm 50/50 on it. However, I think there could be an argument that satellite radio is a "natural monopoly" similiar to cable or local telephone. Since the costs of entering the market are so high (launching satellites, content costs, programming managers, DJs, etc) I think there could be an argument for this. It's different from broadcast radio because broadcast radio serves a local market and if you only own one station, you only need to worry about content for one channel, where in satellite you have to manage 100+ channels. Just my $.02.

Hoo Hoo (1)

christowang (590054) | more than 9 years ago | (#11487813)

"I invented the satellite radio merger Robin." - Howard Stern

Compete with Dish? (2, Interesting)

MrZaius (321037) | more than 9 years ago | (#11488123)

I don't know what the relationship is, exactly, but Dish Network already rebroadcasts/picks up the Sirius radio stations. Why bite the hand that feeds you?

See:
http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/program ming/sir ius/index.shtml

Doubt it... (1)

MHobbit (830388) | more than 9 years ago | (#11488133)

I doubt the two will merge. They're the two biggest (not to mention only ones, that I know of) satellite radio companies, so I doubt that big review organization will allow the merge to go through.
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