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All Three Next-Gen Consoles at e3 2005

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the allez-cuisine dept.

Businesses 371

Word is now out that, in all likelyhood, all three next generation consoles will be displayed in some form at this year's e3. Nintendo's Revolution has been rumoured to be making an appearance for a while. Yesterday Sony announced the PS3 would be available in playable form at the convention, and Microsoft was soon to follow regarding the Xbox Next. Game on?

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No news is good news (5, Funny)

SFalcon (809084) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507078)

Word is not out that, in all likelyhood, all three next generation consoles will be displayed in some form at this year's e3. Good to know there's no updates on the matter, thanks!

Re:No news is good news (1)

shamowfski (808477) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507480)

Are we the only two who have noticed the raging obviousnosity of this? Man I wish i could post fake stories and get them on the front page...."In other news, Bush is not going to say something stupid in the next 2 years", or "EA has just passed on opportunity to purchase [insert game company here] because they are nice guys".

Competition (4, Insightful)

TrippTDF (513419) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507084)

I suppose that in the interest of competition, all three are rushing to put something "showable" together, regaurdless of how close they are to market. I'd take anything I see with a grain of salt, knowing that these consoles were probably go through some big changes between E3 and market.

too bad word isn't out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507086)

i was so looking forward to seeing them

Vision (2, Interesting)

dsginter (104154) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507087)

Here's what I'm hoping:

1) Sony uses a custom Linux distro for PS3
2) PS3 becomes infinitely popular
3) Sony releases cell processor for PCs
4) Cell processor takes over PC world
5) Linux now has hundreds of game titles, thanks to PS3 development
6) People dual boot Linux for games, eventually dump windows
7) No proft!

Re:Vision (2, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507110)

Well considering that Sony offered a Linux kit for the PS2 and it really never took off (due to price because of the HD) I can't imagine this will happen.

It would be interesting though ;)

Re:Vision (2, Informative)

Bander (2001) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507230)

My understanding was that the Linux kit was sold out in pre-orders, which isn't quite "never took off". Sony didn't intend for it to be a mainstream consumer product, but a one-off stunt that paid off more in press and word-of-mouth than sell through profits.

Also, in the form it was released, the Linux kit was definitely more hobbiest oriented than home consumer oriented. Turning it into something with Sony's traditional polish would probably have cost more in effort than would have been made in sales. (Desktop Linux is still "coming soon" for most consumers, so it seems unreasonable to expect Sony to attempt a set-top Linux package.)

Re:Vision (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507383)

My understanding was that the Linux kit was sold out in pre-orders

Selling out in pre-orders is a meaningless statement. How can you "sell out" of an intangible thing? It's just a marketing ploy which you unfortunately seem to have fallen for.

Re:Vision - really (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507256)

Necessary functionality:
1. Networkable
2. Stores data on usb or networked hard disks
3. Plays media (mp3, wav, ogg, mpeg 1, mpeg2, mpeg4, wmf, etc) off of usb hard disk, flash card, networked hard disk
4. Download on demand video, audio content
5. Support for an external usb hardware video encoder (mpeg 4, mpeg 2) with ability to export video to another format
6. DVR with scheduler and program guide
7. HD output
8. Web browser
9. Quiet
10. Ability to boot some sort of end user written code (.net, java, a scripting language, etc).
11. Modular design for low cost (base system has a flash card, external hard disk is extra, external video encoder is extra or third party).

Re:Vision (1)

dsginter (104154) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507342)

Well considering that Sony offered a Linux kit for the PS2 and it really never took off (due to price because of the HD) I can't imagine this will happen.

I'm not saying, "offer a Linux kit". I'm saying that they should leverage a PC platform to run the PS3. If they could develop a DirectX-like API for Linux, programmers would have a spec to which they could adhere and their games would compile for both PS3 and Linux. They could actually create a knoppix-like bootable gaming platform for people with Windows-only PCs. They'd need to certify hardware, but this is next to trivial in this age of two graphics chip vendors.

This is probably the best way to topple Wintel. And I would say "good riddance" to both.

Re:Vision (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507129)

What if all the cell processors unite and form a giant A.I. that acts like a super-intelligent penguin, eating all our fish so that the oceans shrink and then there will be no deep end any more. NO DEEP END.

*anonymity to fend off pending uber-penguin attack

Re:Vision (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507185)

I for one would like to be the first to welcome our super-intelligent fish-eating, ocean-shrinking, no deep end making, cell processor based, uber-penguin overlords.

Re:Vision (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507405)

I'd like to remind them that as a trusted slashdot personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underwater herring caves.

Re:Vision (1)

incom (570967) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507278)

Well considering the xbox runs an nt variant with near-directx atop that, perhaps the PS3 will have something resembling an OS underneath, and linux would certainly be a nice choice for such an application. One can wish ^_^

Re:Vision (2, Insightful)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507556)

"6) People dual boot Linux for games, eventually dump windows"

Erm. Why not just play games on your PS3?

All join in... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507089)

all hail the Revolution!

From The Butt-Spell-Checker-Sad-Tt-Wad-Okay! Dept (3, Funny)

American AC in Paris (230456) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507092)

Word is not out that, in all likelyhood, all three next generation consoles will be displayed in some form at this year's e3.

Well, it is now.

Confirmation? (2, Interesting)

Sir Haxalot (693401) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507093)

I heard that the next generation of consoles will be cheaper than the current generation of consoles when they came out, because PC prices have fallen so dramatically over the past year, and the console makers want to be as competitive as possible. Can anyone confirm?

Re:Confirmation? (2, Informative)

mboverload (657893) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507241)

If these use the latest tech, probably not. It looks like these machines will be using more mainstream hardware, so prices will come down quickly, just like the PC world.

Game On Indeed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507095)

It will be interesting to see 3 huge companies battling, not to mention the players.

Re:Game On Indeed (1)

MadBiologist (657155) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507115)

Wouldn't that be one big company, and two gi-normous companies? I mean, I'd probably rank them from smallest to largest as Nintendo:Sony:Microsoft....

Re:Game On Indeed (3, Insightful)

rayzat (733303) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507160)

Three companies all battling with hardware made by IBM.

Re:Game On Indeed (4, Interesting)

powderbluedictator (822151) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507220)

Where is Intel eh? IBM recently sold off it's PC business. Hmmmm, no point in competing it;s own Cell Architecture. Is this IBM trying to take over the PC market again with a few sneaky consoles are a wedge in the door?

Re:Game On Indeed (1)

The One and Only (691315) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507565)

IBM recently sold off it's PC business. Hmmmm, no point in competing it;s own Cell Architecture. Is this IBM trying to take over the PC market again with a few sneaky consoles are a wedge in the door?

Or maybe Apple?

s/not/now/ (1)

Cutriss (262920) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507100)

Word is not out that, in all likelyhood, all three next generation consoles will be displayed in some form at this year's e3.

It's not? Then what am I reading here? >.>

It begins! (5, Insightful)

jkmiecik (242175) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507107)

And thus begins the 12 month wankfest over which system is superior, based from debates online from people who have only seen press photos of the system in question and have never played it. I hate console -release years on my gaming forums.

It never ends! (1)

Ironsides (739422) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507196)

And thus begins the 12 month wankfest over which system is superior, based from debates online from people who have only seen press photos of the system in question and have never played it

The debate continues among gamers even after the consoles have come out and they have been played. People still debate which is better among GameCube vs. PS2 vs. X-Box.

Re:It never ends! (1)

jkmiecik (242175) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507252)

But I think you can agree that console-release years are MUCH more heated. The rage sort of ebbs once they all hit market.

I enjoy it personally (5, Funny)

buffer-overflowed (588867) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507229)

I'll flame people. They'll flame me. We'll get into a how long have you been gaming virtual penis measuring contest. We'll all enjoy it and point at each other and laugh. And no opinions will be swayed.

God himself could descend down upon gaming forums populated entirely by evangelicals in console launch years and declare his preference, backed up by Jesus and the holy ghost, and this is still how it would happen.

Unholy Inspiration (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507339)

Thanks for the idea

I flame you
You flame me
We're a gaming family
With a great big rocket
And a frag from me to you
Won't you say you hate me too?

I flame you
You flame me
We're worst enemies
Like enemies should be
With a great big rocket
And a frag from me to you
Won't you say you hate me too?

Re:I enjoy it personally (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507372)

God himself could descend down upon gaming forums populated entirely by evangelicals in console launch years and declare his preference, backed up by Jesus and the holy ghost, and this is still how it would happen.

WCWJP (What Console Would Jesus Play?)

when spellcheck isn't enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507131)

Word is not out that...

Pointless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507132)

Word is not out that, in all likelyhood, all three next generation consoles will be displayed in some form at this year's e3.

Nothing to read here, move along folks.

The game is most definetly afoot (3, Interesting)

fwitness (195565) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507143)

This will make for quite the interesting year game wise. It will also make for lots of price slashes. Since the current consoles still have lot's of graphics power and a huge install base, it's going to be a good year to be a gamer.

Ah the circle of consoles. Makes my heart warm.

Re:The game is most definetly afoot (1)

pnice (753704) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507570)

Damn it feels good to be a gamer
A real gangster ass gamer plays his cards right
A real gangster ass gamer don't get into console wars
'Cause real gangster ass gamers don't start fights.

Perfect! (0, Flamebait)

kg_o.O (802342) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507149)

Whoever wins... we win :) Personally I think PS3 will be THE product (Squeresoft will bit the sh*t out of this one with FF 13 or so), but some competition never hurt anyone, try as hard as you can MS and Nintendo :]

Re:Perfect! (1, Insightful)

Ironsides (739422) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507276)

Sony has the Final Fantasy Series, DDR and a shitload of RPGs and fighting games.

GameCube has Mario, Smash Brothers, Zelda, Mario Cart and a whole lotta kids games (some adult ones too).

X-Box has Halo, Max Payne and DOA.

Anything I missed in the series? I'll admit I don't know much about the X-Box games, but based on the low number (that I know of) of series and leading titles, I would say that the X-BOX is going to lose ground. Especially since they can not maintain reverse compatability as easily (if at all) as the PS3 will and the next Nintendo console might.

Re:Perfect! (1)

furball (2853) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507491)

XBox doesn't have Max Payne exclusively. The key is platform exclusivity. Sony and GameCube has been playing that game forever now.

XBox has Halo and Gotham Racing. That's it. And XBox live if you're really into playing with 12 year olds.

Re:Perfect! (1)

Alzheimers (467217) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507532)

XBox has Halo and Gotham Racing.

You forgot Fable.

But I've been trying to since I paid cash for it.

Re:Perfect! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507607)

Xbox also has DDR. I post anonymously for I feel shame that I own it and the dance mat. No one shall ever know I dance crazily in my underwear in the middle of the night,sometimes losing my balance and falling over. It's quite good exercise!

Re:Perfect! (2, Insightful)

SoVeryWrong (576783) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507630)

Has Sony come out and said the PS3 will be backwards compatible? I think they would have the biggest hurdle seeing as they're doing a complete architecture change. What made backwards compatibility so easy for the PS2 is that they used the original PSX chip for I/O. Unless they plan on dropping the set of processors created for the PS2 into the PS3 they're going to have to do it through emulation, just like Microsoft.

After saying that I'm interested in seeing what Sony will come out with. I like that they're using nVidia, because I'm still a little biased against ATi, but I have this sneaking suspicion that Cell either isn't going to perform the way Sony expects it to, or that it will be way behind schedule. Historically Sony doesn't innovate worth a shit, they just take what other people have done and make evolutionary changes to it. If they can use IBM's technology (notice how they didn't even *try* to do it themselves this time) and produce a solid consumer product (something they are very good at), I can see it being a nice machine.

Of course it all has to do with the games, and there hasn't been a PS2 game since Xenosaga: Espisode 1 that hasn't also been released on XBox that I had any interest in. Of course most people disagree with me if sales numbers are any indication.

Re:Perfect! (1)

sqlrob (173498) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507646)

Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, GTA (usually ported to others later, so not strictly an exclusive) in the Sony camp.

Pity the Dev (5, Interesting)

Bonker (243350) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507151)

I have nothing but condolences in my heart for those poor devs and designers who just found out with these announcements that they're going to be pulling double or even triple duty for the next year in order to back up the salesmen's promises.

New Input Scheme, Save Us Nintendo! (4, Interesting)

Iscariot_ (166362) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507154)

Am I the only gamer that has finally grown tired of the hand-held controller input scheme? Isn't it time we dawn some sort of VR goggles or other similar display and perhaps a new input method? Or is the next generation of consoles going to be identical to the last (and the one before that!) with more ram, processing power, etc?

I know that Nintendo is working on a new type of controller, and that might be enought to persuade me to purchase their console over the other two. But really, I think it's time someone take a larger leap foward than touting it can render toy-story in realtime and has uber magic special online abilities.

Re:New Input Scheme, Save Us Nintendo! (1)

Junta (36770) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507296)

Yes, yes, and they can call it Virtual Boy! (. . .)

Re:New Input Scheme, Save Us Nintendo! (1)

Enigma_Man (756516) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507312)

You might be tired of the hand-held controller scheme, but for a lot of things, it works fairly well. I think that joysticks/keyboards/mice are also suited to different styles of games, but I think you implied "standard input devices" when you said "hand-held controller".

Nintendo's DS has the nifty touch-screen and microphone which it uses for input in different games, sometimes in very creative ways (Feel the Magic is a great example).

-Jesse

Re:New Input Scheme, Save Us Nintendo! (1)

Antonymous Flower (848759) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507316)

While systems like Virtual Boy would lead one to stray from innovation, I definately agree. I'll be surprised if a round of consoles from these manufacturers does as well as the current round has if there is no innovation involved. With one exception: GTA and MMO-games. The scale of a game like GTA is dependent on machine resources just as the graphics are. However, a game of large scale is much more entertaining to me now that graphics have reached a sufficient point. I'll pay Pixar to render a pretty film. I'll pay Rockstar (or any other developer of games of a higher scale) for an awesome gaming experience.

Re:New Input Scheme, Save Us Nintendo! (1)

jester22c (613967) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507323)

When it comes down to it... which appendage can perform faster and more accurately than hand-eye coordination? Don't get me wrong I'm for VR goggles just as much as the next guy (as long as radition doesn't eat my brain) but as far as input goes... a controller in the hand is going to be the best option. You typed your post with your hands didn't you? If not... gross.

Re:New Input Scheme, Save Us Nintendo! (1)

Xemu (50595) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507552)

which appendage can perform faster and more accurately than hand-eye coordination?

Now, now, it's Friday and all, but that's just too dirty for the young /. audience.

Re:New Input Scheme, Save Us Nintendo! (4, Funny)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507369)

You want my Power Glove?

Re:New Input Scheme, Save Us Nintendo! (1)

rjelks (635588) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507443)

OMG, I totally forgot about that piece of crap. After watching some 2 hour commercial in the theaters, I bugged my parents for that.

I think I tried using it for about an hour.

Re:New Input Scheme, Save Us Nintendo! (1)

focitrixilous P (690813) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507489)

I know that Nintendo is working on a new type of controller

I don't know about the Revolution, but the DShas a mighty fine set up. The game library is sorely lacking right now, but I've enjoyed Mario 64 all over again. The Metroid Demo it comes with is also awesome. I'd give it a shot, even if you don't like handhelds that much. A lot of the store demo ones get the screens all smudged up with fingerprints, but it can be cleaned off easily. Even wiping it off with your shirt helps.

Re:New Input Scheme, Save Us Nintendo! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507595)

Not tired of the hand held controller. Just tired of all the buttons. I wish they would come up with a more intuitive scheme. Some games such as the new madden's or fighting games have gotten incredible complex, to the point where it is not fun to play against people who are pretty good.

but wait.. (5, Funny)

kevinx (790831) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507165)

comeon, those are just vaporware.. I'm holding out for the phantom.

Re:but wait.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507412)

> comeon, those are just vaporware.. I'm holding out for the phantom.

I hear Phantom has an exclusive license on Duke Nukem Forever...

Viva la Revolution (3, Insightful)

TimmyDee (713324) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507179)

Personally, I'm hoping that Nintendo has a winner on their hands with the Revolution. I've always been a fan of the kinds of games that get released on the Nintendo consoles. They tend to be unique and wonderfully playable. Some may complain that the titles tend towards the younger demographics, but I think that many of them are playable and, most importantly, fun at all ages. Their games tend to be unique whereas PS and Xbox tend to have their catalog dominated by titles that mimic (or are direct ports) of PC games. Sure, the GC has it's share of ported titles, but it also has a ton of exclusives that absolutely rock. Plus, it helps that I've always preferred Nintendo controllers to any others.

*Disclaimer: I would not call myself a Nintendo fanboy. I just bought a GameCube last year (my first console), but have played my friends' PS2s and Xboxes ad nauseam.

Re:Viva la Revolution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507267)

Last Year? No wonder you think Nintendo games are unique!

The not news isn't new (1)

jester22c (613967) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507184)

... I remember reading that the PS3 was debuting at the E3 this May... oh let's call it 4 months ago. I'm glad the only portion of this 'article' that envolves an actual press release is several months old. Too bad the word isn't out anyway... sheesh payAttention(news);

Huh? (0, Redundant)

JLSigman (699615) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507208)

Word is not out that, in all likelyhood, all three next generation consoles will be displayed in some form at this year's e3.
Well, it's out now. ;-)

Got games ? (1)

moonboi (850671) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507225)

the biggest problem that the gaming industries is facing today is diversity in game type, i am sick of playing: A) RPG B) shoot'em up C) Sports faster CPU / RAM is usally better , but i dont care playing nfl2k6 wich will if it will be the same as 2k5 beside a few more details, what we need is new concept, new way of interacting, new styler ( flava flav? ) please Ubisoft/EA impress me !

Oh snap (1)

duxwig (808804) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507243)

So this means for my innovative console to be worthwhile to angst teens that it has to be done by E3? I can fit this hyper-quad-celled bajillion poly machine into my peanut shell by September I think? Game over man, GAME OVER.

XBox Next? (3, Insightful)

faust2097 (137829) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507268)

Can we drop the "XBox Next" thing? There is absolutely no way the console will be called that, It's just something some game 'journalist' at IGN or ZD made up one day.

Re:XBox Next? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507300)

It's actually going to be called the XIBox.

Re:XBox Next? (1)

fwitness (195565) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507343)

I was kind of hoping for the (X+1)Box myself.

Re:XBox Next? (1)

Psykechan (255694) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507568)

I've always thought they should call it the Ybox.

Re:XBox Next? (1)

SmokeHalo (783772) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507550)

What about NeXtBox?

Three? (4, Funny)

wetdogjp (245208) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507270)

Wait, only three consoles? The Phantom is going to be there, right? I mean, c'mon, it's 2005.

Imagine the energy bills... (3, Informative)

game kid (805301) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507310)

...that all this processing power will run up.

I mean, if the PS3 does use 4 Cells [blachford.info] , that alone will certainly be a power hog in itself, right?

I wonder what portion of energy today is used for CPU power.

Re:Imagine the energy bills... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507496)

I wonder what portion of energy today is used for CPU power.

4.89 Libraries-of-Congress / sec...

Re:Imagine the energy bills... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507520)

well lets see.
my WHOLE computer uses about 150 watts when idle. Multiply this by a billion or so computers all over the world and you get a number that is only a miniscule fraction of the power used by 5% efficient incandescent lights. All the computers, smoke-machines etc on the floor of E3 won't use 10% of the power that the building's AC system will.

Mouse (0, Flamebait)

mboverload (657893) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507325)

If it doesn't have a mouse and keyboard, I'm not playing it. Seriously, why not use a mouse and keyboard for these things? Its a bitch to aim or do anything with a controller.

Re:Mouse (1)

UWC (664779) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507445)

Troll or no? Ah well.

I infinitely prefer mouse+keyboard for some game types, especially shooters (first and third person), point-and-click adventures (Myst, old LucasArts adventures, etc.), and RTS. Some game types, though, would benefit only marginally from that setup (standard console RPGs seem like a mouse might help just a little, but not much). Still others, like fighters, action/adventures (e.g. recent EA Lord of the Rings action games), and platformers, really benefit from a console controller.

Re:Mouse (1)

lmsig (110148) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507528)

Very very simple answer.

I cannot sit on my couch and relax with a mouse and keyboard. In addition console gaming is more about the social experience with friends then a single player at a PC. I don't want to have to setup a table for the keyboard and mouse.

Although.. perhaps a trackball where thet joystick goes would be interesting for some games (FPS?)

Whither the existing generation? (1)

8tim8 (623968) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507341)

This is great and really whets the appetite for the next gen of consoles, but where is the current generation? I finally decided to buy a PS2 (or PSTwo) and everywhere I look, stores seem to be out of them (and XBoxs, and GCs). Anyone know what the deal is? Did they sell out of everything over the holidays?

Re:Whither the existing generation? (1)

Ironsides (739422) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507446)

I got lucky in that the friday after christmass I got there about an hour after the delivery man dropped off some PSTwos at an EB (around 2pm). If I had gotten there that morning, they would have said SOL. The day before I had tried a different area and pretty much everyone laughed at me for trying to find one. Sony is still trying to "recover" from the Christmass season sale drain.

In short, everyone sold out over the holidays.

Re:Whither the existing generation? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507585)

I used to work at a Toys R Us when I was in high school (back when the PS first came out) and back then even the Genesis which was SEVERAL years old was selling out over the holidays. I worked there for about 3 holiday seasons and each year it was the same. Game consoles always sold (with the exception of the horrid Virtual Boy) regardless of age and especially when they came with multiple games to start (ex. Genesis 6 game deal, or Sega Saturns 3 game deal).

Most interesting thing is that they are the same (1, Insightful)

adzoox (615327) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507379)

I think the most interesting thing is that will all be using basically the same processor - The Cell from IBM.

I see this as a more difficult transition for Microsoft and Sony than Nintendo - because the Nintendo currently uses a PowerPC G3 variant and an ATI video card - it's not much less than low end iMac CRT from a few years ago.

I wonder if anyone will be able to write emulators that play any game from any console ON ANY console.

This should be easy for coders to come up with an emulator to run discs on Macs and return our ability to play playstation games.

Re:Most interesting thing is that they are the sam (3, Interesting)

dartboard (23261) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507455)

They are all using IBM processors but certainly not the cell -- only sony will use that. Others will use more traditional powerpc designs I suspect.

Remember the 5 W's? (1)

Triv (181010) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507381)

Who. What. When. Where. Why.

Saying these consoles might make an appearance at e3 doesn't help if I, a casual gamer, have any idea what e3 is, more importantly, when it is. A simple 'in May' would've sufficed.

*grumbles

Triv

Sigh (1)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507385)

I'm a Nintendo fanboy at heart and I'm pretty proud of it TBH. But I see this being Nintendo's last console, as much as I like them, the market "doesn't". The new generation of... gamers.. (I use the term loosely) perfers quick fixs and short games with the average Hollywood plot.

The Madden 200837394 generation basicly. I just find it bitterly ironic, the shorter games get.. the people have to work to make them. Where as we all hate "it's been pushed back". I'd rather have a game repeatedly pushed back then bug ridden.

Re:Sigh (3, Insightful)

rjelks (635588) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507521)

I've leaned towards the shorter FPS games (ie, Halo2, Ghost Recon 2) for a simple lack of time. I can't dedicate hours a day, forgetting to eat, on a RPG like when I was younger. I tend to prefer the games that I can play for 30 minutes and stop. That's just my $0.02.

Might sit out this next round (2, Interesting)

Zed2K (313037) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507387)

I might actually pass on buying any of these next consoles unless I can get them at a discount (not likely) or a game comes out that is so remarkable that its different from anything I've already got. I've already got a PC with a ton of games and a PS2 and gamecube that I rarely play. Show me something amazing and actually new and then I might be interested.

thank you USA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507398)

I am a proud USA citizen.

If it wasn't for our country, such devices would not be possible.

its only thanks to american values such as freedom and democracy that this is happening at all.

Re:thank you USA (0, Troll)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507468)

Err Ummm. Isn't Microsoft X Box the one that we are hoping to fail the only one from America? The rest are from Japenese companies.

Re:thank you USA (1)

rjelks (635588) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507560)

"Isn't Microsoft X Box the one that we are hoping to fail the only one from America?"

On slashdot, hate for Microsoft always superseeds patriotism.

I'm sure all the machines have parts from different countries.

Right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507515)

*pets troll*

Actually you're right, because if America hadn't liberated Japan at the end of WWII (back in the good old days when "liberate" meant liberating the country's citizens as opposed to its natural resources), we wouldn't have Playstation or Nintendo.

DNF (1)

gonaddespammed.com (550312) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507423)

I heard they'll have using Duke Nukem Forever featuring as the display game - on all three consoles!

Interesting designs... (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507434)

Looking trough the net I found this interesting proposed design for the PS3...
Will this be the PS3? [btconnect.com]
At least, it looks more cool that the tower design... what do you think??

Re:Interesting designs... (1)

bynary (827120) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507614)

You're kidding, right? That appears to be a slightly modified rendering of a Sony Discman. I think Sony's trying to further integrate into the living room, not drive their console out of it. That would look absolutely atrocious in an A/V rack, not to mention it wouldn't conveniently fit anywhere. The PS2 design wasn't radically different from the PS1. I can't imagine Sony will break with tradition.

How bout a little verification? (1)

jedimasta (854265) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507453)

I'm not gonna aim this at slashdot, but rather at these IGN sites it links to. Granted, theres a decent likelyhood that we'll see something on at least one of the new systems at E3, but neither of these articles offer up ANY proof of these "announcements". How bout a little journalistic integrity. Some guy says someone else was on a conference call and they mentioned their nex-gen is gonna appear. I did some quick homework and this far none of the corp sites for either company have any press releases confirming these claims.

I'm waiting.... (0, Offtopic)

ajaf (672235) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507495)

for a game console Linux based...

We have cameras, mobile phones, pvr, pbx. What are we waiting for?

Stop talking about Graphics! (2, Insightful)

popo (107611) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507500)

Open message to Sony, Nintendo and Xbox: Stop telling us what the chipset is capable of, and start telling us what you're going to do to encourage high-quality development for your platforms.

The Xbox was ultimately a poor investment for anyone who bought it. Sure Halo's 1&2 are system sellers. But then what? There were scant few good titles for Xbox.

Now Xbox and PS2 will be featuring variations of IBM's "Cell-based" computing chipset. Has *anyone* mentioned what its going to take to code for these things? No. Why? Because its going to be like drinking sand. Everythings about polygons per second, antialiasing, etc. Its what investors want to hear. But gamers want to hear about titles -- and that's it.

At the end of the day, what I really want as a consumer is the platform with the "most best" games. Developers want something different though: they are going to choose their platforms based on market size and a time & risk based assessment for building products. (And market size will be determined by quality titles which goes back to time & risk). The potential for Eye-candy will be a secondary factor.

I'm hoping we see the evangelizing begin at e3 -- not to consumers, not to the press, but to developers. Only that will ultimately decide the winning platform.

Re:Stop talking about Graphics! (1)

SoulMan (18640) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507593)

Why do people continue to insist that the Xbox was a "bad investment" for consumers? You already mentioned the Halo series, but the Splinter Cell series debuted on Xbox. The Oddworld series left PS2 and moved to Xbox. Just about every major sports franchise is available on Xbox, if that's your thing. Hell, I know several people who have purchased an Xbox in the past month, and the thing is over three years old now.

Not to mention the solid, albeit comparatively pricey, Xbox Live online service.

Re:Stop talking about Graphics! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507653)


Well, its no doubt that Halo is the system seller. I'm not sure what the percentage of users who bought Xboxes for Halo is, but I'm betting its pretty high.

Now if you're one of those consumers who bought an Xbox because you thought Halo was representative of the kind of games Xbox would support -- boy are you disappointed.

Re:Stop talking about Graphics! (4, Insightful)

clontzman (325677) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507656)

The Xbox was ultimately a poor investment for anyone who bought it. Sure Halo's 1&2 are system sellers. But then what? There were scant few good titles for Xbox.

Not that old saw again. There are more good games for the Xbox than there is time for any reasonable person to play. There are more than 100 Xbox games on GameRankings with scores above 80%. Xbox gets its share of original games (Halo, KOTOR, DOA, Crimson Skies, MechAssault, Ninja Gaiden) and, almost always, the best versions of multiplatform games, plus XBL.

I agree that all the prick-waving about whose processor is more powerful is boring, but there's some great stuff out there for the Xbox.

Consoles and Prediction Markets (1)

texasfight (833973) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507559)

You can try your skill at predicting the release date of the XBox [newsfutures.com]

How about some other predictions:

All have hard drive?

All use Blue Ray DVD?

Home entertaininment capability (MythTv like)?

All run Linux?

DRM-disabled, I mean enabled?

Which one out first?

Which one has highest first year sales?

Real name of X-Box next?

X-Box ignored in Japan?

New console manufacturer enters market by 2010?

Existing manufacturer leaves market by 2010?

At least one manufacturer sued by SCO? Place your bets before the window closes!

Here's what I predict (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11507588)


Writing code for the PS3 is going to be even more of a nightmare than writing code for the PS2.

This whole Cellbased thing is going to be impressive on paper and a total clusterfuck for developers.

Summer in july! (0, Offtopic)

flibuste (523578) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507597)

I hereby announce that there will be summer between 22 of june and 22 of september in the northern hemisphere.

It is not yet known what will be the temperature though.

Thanks Slashdot for this piece of non-information!

In Slashdot, you don't get void, the void gets YOU!

What/When is an e3? (1)

Free_Trial_Thinking (818686) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507635)

Sorry, maybe it's in the article, but I've heard some people don't read those.

Wouldn't it be nice... (1)

e2ka (708498) | more than 9 years ago | (#11507654)

If consoles were shaped like other consumer electronics - longish rectangles. I've always found it annoying that you can't stack your consoles with the rest of your stuff. Plus maybe they could benefit from the extra size.
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