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Microsoft in 2008

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the you-never-know dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 365

r.jimenezz writes "Over at Wired there's an entertaining article written by Gary Wolf. It purports to be a memo written by a 2008-Microsoft-employed Linus Torvalds to Bill, arguing against Steve Ballmer's desire to go back to the untenable OS monopoly proposition instead of the 'new order': Windows is now some sort of desktop environment on top of an open OS!"

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far away ... (2, Funny)

siropel (802188) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508736)

2008 ...hmmm ...what microsoft ? ...

Re:far away ... (4, Insightful)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508754)

MS just made $10 billion in a single quarter. They're not going anywhere anytime soon.

Re:far away ... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508974)

There is a nasty bug in Linux that makes the computer reboot every 49.7 days. The worst part is that this bug has been around for almost 10 years...

What good is a million eyes looking at the code if they are attached to half a million idiots?

I guess most people don't realize this because they need to recompile their kernel every other week, or they use Linux only to boot into illegal copies of Windows.

Linus is going to have to fix that one if he hopes to beat Windows by 2008...

Re:far away ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11509043)

I know you're just a stupid troll and I shouldn't answer but all my machines have an uptime of more than 3 months. Where is this bug you've seen?

Re:far away ... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11509115)

What are you using it for ? runnin xcock ?

Re:far away ... (1)

ratsg (544275) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509120)

What nasty bug? I have a Cobalt box that has been up for over a year.

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508740)

fp

OK (1, Funny)

northcat (827059) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508742)

Can it get any more horny than this?

Re:OK (Microsoft/Linus pr0n??) (5, Funny)

GeorgeMcBay (106610) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508761)


Can it get any more horny than this?


I've heard of some sick fetishes (I do have access to the Internet, after all), but you take the cake, my friend!

Re:OK (Microsoft/Linus pr0n??) (1)

Geoffreyerffoeg (729040) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509045)

curl http://google.com/search?q=harry+draco+slash+ficti on&btnI= | sed "s/Harry/Linus/g" | sed "s/Draco/Bill/g"

Re:OK (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508979)

> Can it get any more horny than this?

Indeed it can, my friend. Since we're discussing Microsoft, you'll find it can get longhorny. Ha ha ha.

Ha ha.... [glances worriedly at walking stick emerging from the side of the stage]... uh, ha ha ha ha.. ha ha... haa... GLUCK!

linux nerds suck (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508743)

linux nerds suck

Old News for Nerds (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508744)

This was posted all over the internet days ago... Thanks again slashdot for proving your irrelevance!

Re:Old News for Nerds (1, Offtopic)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508792)

It was also posted in my free subscription of Wired. Complete with pretty photos and nice big paper!

Re:Old News for Nerds (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508863)

>Thanks again slashdot for proving your irrelevance!

it's "irrelevant," yet you can bother to take time and post?

Re:Old News for Nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508891)

The problem with the internet is you can't go crack skulls when people do something stupid.

I got the FP!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508747)

YAY!

Re:I got the FP!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508788)

what poignant sorrow
to hear thousands of people
screaming, you fail it

Wha...? (1)

Primotech (731340) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508748)

Microsoft...Open Source...? As entertaining as this article is, the chances of such things materializing are thin.

Re:Wha...? (2, Funny)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508980)

1.) NWO = New Windows OS

2.) William Gates III in ascii code sums up to 666.

3.) M$ commercials of "where do you want to go today" actually plays some song in the background where certain tones match satanic worshipping.

Seriously if M$ became opensource, it wouldn't be any more crazy than any of the above.

Ya must be new ... (1)

Moulinneuf (844899) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509040)

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/Go vernment/opensource.mspx

run run for your life !!! where's my tinfoil hat !!!

Re:Ya must be new ... (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509129)

From the link: ...Some proprietary software, such as Microsoft Windows, is also provided in source code form although this is generally not the case for all commercial software companies.
Are you serious?? where is ALSO provided as sourcecode?

I read this and found it to be terribly funny (3, Funny)

Zphbeeblbrox (816582) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508753)

and yet somehow totally unrealistic. I can't see Linus fitting in that kind of a work environment. Not that I know that much about Microsoft work environments.

Also surely this isn't a first post?

Long horn (1)

agent (7471) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508873)

Name of MicroSofts's next OS?
Name of Bush's College, that they like to make goofy arm gestors for.
The goverment has a special version of Windows NT Technology.
Who's in bed together? The Long Horns.
Only what and what come from Texas?
Save yourself now.
http://www.apple.com/switch/

Re:Long horn (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508925)

Wait, you're saying Apple is the way out of overpriced corporate-marketed products? Um, what?

Joy! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508766)

Another MS vs. Linux article. FUN!!!!

to summarize (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508767)

if you dont want to read, i'll summarize:

Bill Gates: "'Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers!' I'm fucking sick and tired of it so i had to fire him and you were the best replacement i could find"

Linus needs to watch who he associates with. (4, Funny)

numbski (515011) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508768)

I think he's been hanging out with John Titor [johntitor.com] a bit too much lately. ;)

This IS entertaining (5, Insightful)

Staplerh (806722) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508769)

It's entertaining. I don't think I would mod the article 'Insightful' or 'Interesting', but I would mod it 'Funny'. A choice snippet (taken out of context no doubt, but still)

You never made me alter my goal, which was world domination for Linux. I'll never forget your line: "Come on, Linus, infect the mothership." I still believe that was the best recruiting pitch ever uttered. We both took a lot of criticism from our partisans, but look what we've accomplished.

Inflect the mothership? Just writing this makes me chuckle. Seems kind of creepy, and dare I say, 'borgish'. Oh well, I suppose getting co-opted by Mothership Microsoft had somehow warped the psuedo-Torvald's mind.

Re:This IS entertaining (5, Funny)

GeorgeMcBay (106610) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508819)


Infect the mothership?


The article lost all credibility with me with the infect the mothership line. Everybody knows you need to use a Mac to infect the mothership [imdb.com] .

Re:This IS entertaining (1)

nadadogg (652178) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508961)

Nah, I was thinking more along the lines of infecting the mothership, borg-style.

Re:This IS entertaining (1)

wpmegee (325603) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509055)

I think you're looking for assimilating the mothership.

Waaay out of context in fact. (5, Interesting)

numbski (515011) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508823)

"...infect the mothership..."

That's poking fun at the movie "Independence Day". The PowerBook that manages to establish an authenticated PPP session, get an IP address, transfer a virus to the alien host (pun intended), then REMOTELY EXECUTE IT.

Okay, yes, I'm a unix admin, mac user, network engineer, and the mere concept has my dying on the floor laughing as I watch the Classic environment do that.

Anyway, point is....I'm betting the author has watched that movie recently.

Revealing....the name for the new X-Box: (1)

texasfight (833973) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508770)

WinX

Interesting thing is... (1)

Ironsides (739422) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509014)

What's interesting is that a WinX environment on linux might be a great gui environment. So far neither Gnome nor KDE is coming out ahead and neither is particularly user friendly to the noob (like me). Windows particularly excels in their interface which they could probably make money on selling in a linux environment.

get over it geeks (-1, Flamebait)

pl1ght (836951) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508779)

I wonder how long until all the *nix geeks get over their OS and just realize the fact that MS will prevail.

Go back to coding! (0, Troll)

flibuste (523578) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508791)

Nice piece of useless writing. Thinking that people actually spend time writing those things. I wonder what silicon they smoke

Re:Go back to coding! (3, Funny)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508900)

I wonder what silicon they smoke

It's called "free time". Envious? ;-)

Re:Go back to coding! (3, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508938)

Well, you might have been trying to be funny but it was modded insightful which it isn't.

Creative writing is interesting and the thoughts behind the piece were definitly thought provoking.

I read the F&@*^% article. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508802)

It's just a very stupid piece. Very well suited to be publicized on slashdot. Yeah, mod me down, fat boy, because I don't like your stupid web site nerd forum.

Thats great... (0, Troll)

Devalia (581422) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508804)

....but can they tell me next weeks lottery numbers?

BULL!!! (0)

I_am_Rambi (536614) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508814)

But now it's time to grow up. We've proven that users don't care what operating system lies beneath the surface. They care about the reliability and security of their working environment, about the investment they've made in learning how to use their computers, and about the feature-set in their applications. We are giving away the OS while selling WinX, and it looks like we've settled at 70 percent market share, from 90 percent.

I do care what OS is beneath the surface. There are many good and bad ways to implement different things. The OS has to deal with this more than a user. A user can somewhat tell if the implementation has an issue with speed. Not only are security and reliability and issue, but much more.

Yes, this is funny, but in reality I don't think that Linus would ever work at Microsoft. I think Bill would want to assimulate Linus if anything.

Re:BULL!!! (2, Insightful)

igotmybfg (525391) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508918)

I do care what OS is beneath the surface
Yeah, but the point is that most users don't - for them computers are just a tool, and if it works ok then they are happy.

Re:BULL!!! (1)

tu_holmes (744001) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509046)

See, the thing is, everyone's idea of "working" is different.

Yes, we almost all use a web browser, and email application, but we don't all use a lot of the other things that constitute work.

Some people need a real office suite of applications, spreadsheets, document creation, work flow, and presenter tools. Others need good video or photo editing... Some even need an OS to play games (I know a guy who's a paid video game tester).

For each of us, "it working ok" is different, and so what's underneath really does count.

There's a reason why certain OS's seem to be more suited to certain things, and those reasons influence what people think of the OS.

Besides, why is "ok" good enough. We don't expect our cars to run "ok" (especially if they're just a year old or so) we expect them to run very well, or extremely well, or something along those lines.

I also think that users are changing. In 1996, one out of every 5 to 10 users barely knew where the CD-ROM tray was, but now, users are more savvy, and every minute someone is born who is 3 or 4 years will be on their computer for the first time.

Things are changing, and the majority of users, while not being "techies", are not completely computer moronic either.

two choices: (2, Funny)

www.sorehands.com (142825) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508949)

One, Bill Gates could have offered Linus enough money to turn him to the dark side; Or two, he could have hired enough people to brain wash Linus.

Re:BULL!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508956)

you mean assassinate?

THIS IS FAKE!!@!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508827)

Linus does not work for Microsoft! Nor do we have time travel! This is another hoax by Dan Rather!

According to net celebrity Mike Cox (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508828)

According to net celebrity Mike Cox, Microsoft will eventually beat Linux. So you might as well switch to Windows now - it will be less painful.

Another one from the "Duh!" file (5, Funny)

phillymjs (234426) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508858)

"Windows is now some sort of desktop environment [apple.com] on top of an open OS [apple.com] !"

Wow, so in the future they'll keep copying Apple. That's big news.

~Philly

Steve is mad too! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508872)

If Linus is so mad at Steve for calling WinX, "Winux", then Steve is probably mad at Linus for calling Longhorn, "Longtime".

This sounds like a bad soap...

Re:Steve is mad too! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11509018)

If Linus is so mad at Steve for calling WinX, "Winux", then Steve is probably mad at Linus for calling Longhorn, "Longtime". This sounds like a bad soap...

I reckon it's the first episode of a 'slash' fiction story featuring Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer and Linus Torvalds.

Hang on, that doesn't sound like a very pleasant prospect.

Linus looks like a penguin (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508892)

Does anyone else think that Linus looks like a fat penguin?

And also, (2, Funny)

Gannoc (210256) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508895)


In that same memo, it describes how Microsoft will create a sticker that attaches to the outside of your case that uses nanotechnology to intensa-mobilize the electron particles in your motherchips to make your computer run 10-15% faster after several reboots.

Sony-Disney-MS (2, Funny)

flabbergast (620919) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508897)

Finally, if you think that the Sony-Disney-MS deal is important, you better quiet Steve down

Danger Will Robinson, Danger!!! That's a scary idea, what would you call a company that is MS, Sony, and Disney? Disonysoft? Microney? AOL Time Warner?

Re:Sony-Disney-MS (2, Funny)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508984)

That's ok, ApPixBay will CRUSH THEM ALL!

Re:Sony-Disney-MS (2, Funny)

JudgeFurious (455868) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509121)

You're one merger short of total domination.

That's "ApPixBayGoo" if you want to take on "SonDisSoft".

The REAL Microsoft in 2008 (5, Funny)

jimbolaya (526861) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508898)

They finally ship Longhorn.

Trust me.... (2, Funny)

copponex (13876) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509132)

I'm waiting for Longhorn SP1 in 2011.

I've been watching too many movies (4, Funny)

ChipMonk (711367) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508907)

From TFA:

You told me that if I ever hit a wall with Steve or his people, I should let you know.

Somehow, the image of Linus Torvalds grabbing Steve Ballmer and swinging him like a bat at a brick wall, Neo-vs.-Smith style.... It's a good thing I didn't have any soda in my mouth when I read that.

Hack Writing (0, Troll)

TempusMagus (723668) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508913)

That article was bad. I don't want to be unusally cruel - but 10th graders are above using such a narrative advice. I think the author hamfistedly confused improbablity with insight.

I was assimulated by Microsoft.. (2, Funny)

adeyadey (678765) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508921)

and all I got was this lousy tee-shirt!

Re:I was assimulated by Microsoft.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11509112)

I was assimulated by Microsoft..
Not completely, it seems. They forgot to install the spellchecker.

Oh my god! (0, Flamebait)

aurb (674003) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508922)

I don't want to live in such a world! Please, someone kill me NOW!

Make a point (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508926)

form the article:

[...]But Firefox taught people that you could replace pieces of the Windows desktop with open source software. That was a crack in the seamless facade.

Dear Bill (2, Funny)

jwegy (775655) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508940)

Tell Steve that it is Gnu/Winx, not Winux. Thanks, Linus ;-P

Re:Dear Bill (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11509116)

Actually:

Dear Bill,

Tell Steve that it is GNU/WinX, not Winux.

Thanks,
RMS
GNU/WinX License Manager
Microsoft Corporation

But what about Debian/NT? (4, Funny)

argent (18001) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508944)

I mean, the old NT codebase has some interesting capabilities. What about building a Debian/NT on top of it?

Re:But what about Debian/NT? (2, Funny)

LuckyStarr (12445) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509020)

Just as you think it could not get any weirder...

Help needed with VM manager (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508947)

Hi,

I am the one responsible for the VM manager in Linux. I am currently having some difficulties with some of the internals. Can someone point me to the source of W2K?

Thanks in advance.

Microsoft 2000-whatever (4, Insightful)

Ars-Fartsica (166957) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508948)

Like any corporation that has survived and thrived due to a monopoly, it will never change and will take a very long time to die. See AT&T for a useful analogue.

Jesus Christ was a motherfucker (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508951)

PROOF: God is Jesus's father, so he must have fucked his mother. Additionally, Jesus and God are the same entity, according to the bible. Therefore, it was Jesus who fucked his mother. QED

Re:Jesus Christ was a motherfucker (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11509027)

Your dad is your father, so you must of fucked your mom. You and Your father are two entities, according to logic. Therefor, it was you who fucked your mom.

it's not exactly in line with this article ... (3, Interesting)

timothy (36799) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508952)

but something I've been thinking and asserting for a few years is that Microsoft, if they wanted to, could easily be the world's largest Open Source company.

Now, with their cash, they could probably also quickly be the world's largest X company for nearly any X ;) However, as an entrenched company with experts in all levels of the software world (from marketing and PR to theoretical next-century noodling that one day will be genuine workable technology), this is a not-crazy idea.

Microsoft has adopted to market changes before, and they will in the future. (And then, of course, one day they won't exist any more ... dust to dust).

timothy

Wow, only one thing left to say (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508959)

I for one welcome our new useless-posting-bs-accumulating-writers who are only appreciated by old people from Korea who are appreaciated because soviet russia appreciates you.

Memo to Wired (1, Troll)

digitalgimpus (468277) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508960)

Dear Wired,

Isaac Asimov was the king of Science Fiction. Your attempt at the genre is pretty much just frightening and strange despite being somewhat comical.

Please go back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Regards,
Slashdot Community.

Re:Memo to Wired (3, Funny)

argent (18001) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509033)

Nah, this isn't anything like Asimov. No attempt to tie it in to the Robots/Foundation/Empire universe.

Wired Stories (1, Offtopic)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508962)

Am I the only one who is sick of the weekly and monthly PR circus that is stories from other places obviously being submitted to /, to get traffic to their websites?

Wired and Robert Cringely stick out, I'm sure there are others. If /, is going to do this over and over and over, give us Wired and Robert Cringely topics we can turn off.

Is iPod the Razor or the Blade?
On January 28th, 2005

Mac mini All About Movies?
On January 21st, 2005

Bob Cringely's Predictions For 2005
On January 9th, 2005

Get Your Broadcast TV Anywhere
On December 2nd, 2004 - goes to a Cringley article

Search By.... Email?
On October 15th, 2004 - goes to a Cringley article

HP Sells Cheap FreeDOS PC in China
On December 10th, 2004 - goes to a Cringley article because "And while we're on China.."

Re:Wired Stories (1)

Alzheimers (467217) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509038)

Yes, because Slashdot should stick to doing what it does best: posting stories about unique casemods on websites hosted on a residential DSL account that dissapear into the void in about .03 seconds.

Re:Wired Stories (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509119)

I'm down with that.

If it's up on a website with a .com that can survive a slashdoting, it shouldn't be on /.

We should have the Laws of /. like the laws for Robots.

2008: more realism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508983)

More realistically, in 2008 Linus will not be writing from Redmond, but from the Federal Jail where he will go for the multiple copyright and patent violations. Do you think he will remain defiant in jail or regret stealing UNIX code from SCO?

Only old Koreans (1)

Shinaku (757671) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508987)

..Only old Koreans use memos

Wired invented a magical time machine! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11508995)

Please send me back to 1997 so I can become a dot com billionaire!

Firefox (1)

after fallout (732762) | more than 9 years ago | (#11508999)

But Firefox taught people that you could replace pieces of the Windows desktop with open source software. That was a crack in the seamless facade. You guys were the experts at demonetizing whole sectors of the industry to protect the OS. But how were you going to do that against products that were free? I can't deny that I found a certain poetry in that dilemma.

Imagine what happens to office if this is what firefox teaches about microsoft products.

Myself, I thought I was making some pretty outrageous demands. I was stunned when you agreed to accept the General Public License mandating that everything you added at the level of the new operating system would remain open. But you've been true to your side of the bargain, and you've won my respect. You never made me alter my goal, which was world domination for Linux. I'll never forget your line: "Come on, Linus, infect the mothership." I still believe that was the best recruiting pitch ever uttered. We both took a lot of criticism from our partisans, but look what we've accomplished. The world is using software that doesn't suck! I hope you don't think I'm being arrogant, Bill, when I suggest that some of the glory has rubbed off on you.

This is a little out of line though.

Re:Firefox (1)

Lesson No. 25 (825485) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509089)

Maybe it's not so much in-the-future, but rather in-an-alternate-universe.

Sounds like a pretty good idea to me... (3, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509000)

All jokes asside, the idea of ripping out the underlying stuff while keeping the Windows UI standards for look and feel would be fine with me.

There are presently efforts to dump X11 in favor of a more hardware direct interface for graphics and such in order to provide more speed and flexibility. I don't know where those projects are now, but without a big backer of the idea, getting rid of X will never happen. As far as I can see, asside from some Microsoft-blessed system services, that's what I imagine WinX would be anyway. And to run proprietary code on top of a Linux kernel? I don't see any violations, legal or moral.

with as much work and progress that has been made over the years with KDE and GNOME projects, it would be far kinder to the users if there were a strong and unified user interface from which to run their applications. It freaks people out to change and learn new things. KDE and GNOME folks have done a lot of work to get their projects into the lime light but frankly, a large player like Microsoft could easily swoop in and make it all irrelevant. This may not be the case in a year or two but it feels like it is the case right now.

For the record, I'm very anti-microsoft. But it would be a mistake to fail to embrace them if they were to attempt something like WinX. (If they did, it'd probably be a BSD kernel though... worked for Apple didn't it?)

Clearly a fraud (1)

LordOfYourPants (145342) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509008)

If this memo were real then there would be at least be a mention of the $2 trillion media extravaganza surrounding the press release which revealed that Duke Nukem was coming out before 2009.

As long as we're playing fantasy land (3, Funny)

jalefkowit (101585) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509017)

From the office of: Jesus Christ
Date: 10.31.2008
To: Allah
From: Big J
Re: Will Mohammed kill Islam++?

Send them back to "Motherfuckerland" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11509019)

Send them back to "Motherfuckerland".

Gah (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11509031)

Microsofts desktop environment is the cruft that makes it "bad".

Microsofts Kernel is smaller, does not need a recompile for hardware updates (*snigger*), handles threading and memory management better and with alot more features then "Teh legendary linux kernel". Frankly, Linux (the man and the kernel) doesn't have anything Microsoft needs.

They (ms) just need to get their shit together and get their engineering standards homogenous across all departments. The wads who produce garbage like clippy and "let the intern do it with string.h" arn't the same guys who make the kernel.

In 2008 (5, Funny)

fieldcomm (685891) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509034)

We've built a Windows desktop and application framework around a Linux operating system, and both sides of this equation - open source and proprietary - are needed for our plan to continue to work.

In other news, RMS announces the imminent release of HURD. "I can feel it, any day now, " says RMS.

When asked about the new Winux, RMS suddenly issued blue smoke and sparks, muttering "Freedom, freedom, where is the freedom," before crashing to the floor.

Happy Halloween! (4, Insightful)

argent (18001) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509076)

Anyone else notice the date on the memo? :)

THE REAL MEMO!!!! (2, Funny)

DocStoner (236199) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509087)

Hey Bill,

Well, we did the best we could. Everyone thought we were crazy when we decided to join forces. For awhile there, we thought that we might actually have a chance at coming out on top by teaming up.

We should have known that copying Apple again ( this time by turning to a 'nix based OS) wouldn't work. They had such a huge headstart on us and you can only copy your competitors so many times before consumers catch on to what you are doing.

I've got to hand it to Steve Jobs and the guys at Apple. In the end, quality did beat out price.

Linus

Only in a parallel universe... (1)

Eskimore_ (842733) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509092)

I bet everyone in this scenario has a goatee, unless they have one now of course.

Sounds familiar... (3, Interesting)

MrPerfekt (414248) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509096)

This sounds an awful lot like Apple and OS X, complete with humor about pronounciation (OS X or OS TEN).

As sad as I am to say it, Cringley already fielded this one sometime in 2002 or 2003 I believe. He had a slightly insane theory that a proprietary Windows interface on top of a Linux kernel would be the best of both worlds.

I doubt it would ever happen but it would be definately interesting. Just think if Windows made the shift, there would no longer be ANY operating systems in active development that weren't based on UNIX in some way.

Is that a far-fetch dream or a reality slowly taking shape?

That was dumb (1)

ahdeoz (714773) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509104)

unless there was a point at the end of the article. I couldn't finish, though I slogged through to the second page.

TFA (1)

Bad Boy Marty (15944) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509106)

It's really wonderful, and extremely scary. Wonderful because the scenario is quite possible, and would almost certainly be a big boost to all of OSS (not just the kernel). Alas, it's scary for the more obvious reason that it would make "that evil desktop" completely ubiquitous.

I will definitely be having nightmares for the next several weeks -- and possibly for as long as 2.5 years....

I mod thee (-1 Lame) Wired Magazine (4, Funny)

netsavior (627338) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509117)

I just lost 5 minutes of my life that my employer will never get back...

I named my orange cat Linus... (0, Offtopic)

cresquin (852066) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509125)

... my wife thinks he's named after a Peanuts character. What kind of geek would that make me?

Here's another alternate universe (1)

VAXGeek (3443) | more than 9 years ago | (#11509135)

Here's [slashdot.org] another piece along the same lines as this one. In this alternate version of reality, ESR somehow comes into some money and he writes what he will do with it. Fascinating read, really.

"A few hours ago, I learned that I am now (at least in theory) absurdly rich."
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