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RedHat 6.0 is Out

CmdrTaco posted more than 14 years ago | from the here-comes-the-floods dept.

Red Hat Software 237

Jan Kautz wrote in to tell us that Red Hat 6.0 has begun appearing on the mirrors, so all you mad hatters can cruise on it, avoid the traffic, and download the latest.

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Wish I could get it ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916083)

The ftp sites are all seems down right now.
What a mess!

upgrade path (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916084)

Is there an upgrade path to RH 6.0 from 5.2 or do I have to scrap everything and start from scratch?

thanks
Annonymous Newbie

cool. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916085)

I will bet 6.1 will be out in two weeks :-)

The version is based on StarBuck 5.9.7 version,
but as far as I know, that release was still
full of problems.


Yay! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916086)

Yes, and all under the GPL. KDE is great also.

See Previous Artical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916087)

Those are different programs. the "RHmemeber" program is _not_ the standard Red Hat Linux operating system box. Look Carefully.

but, it's not May 10. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916088)

May 10th in stores

RPM 3.0 available, too (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916089)

Your article would have been more informative if you told us what the difference was? Except for the version number?

heh. not easy with... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916090)

Try using telemate and lynx to cut and paste stuff. It's not all that easy. With normal backscroll it's no problem, but lynx messes up backscroll. And don't tell me to use a real OS/browser.

Mirrors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916091)

Well I went through about 95% of the sites on www.redhat.com/mirrors.html and they are all at 5.2 and some starbuck. I'm sure that 6.0 was ready on friday so why don't they let the mirrors all get synced and then release it on monday. This would make more sense instead of trying to fight your way into ftp.redhat.com. And currently:
PING redhat.com (207.175.42.154): 56 data bytes

--- redhat.com ping statistics ---
20 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

but this is slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916092)

This is slashdot where people make all kinds of idiotic remarks without any proof or research. This is where all kinds of products get bashed because people are too lazy to buy them or actually try them.

On mirrors? I don't see it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916093)

I've searched through them too without any luck, although I did see one that had the directory tree created for RedHat6.0, but no files.

ISO? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916094)

Does anyone know if there is a publicly availible ISO anywhere for Redhat 6. I know mandrake does this for their distribution and it makes it much easier to make a bootable redhat cd.

ummmmmmmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916095)

yes... rufus is in the process of collecting the RedHat-6.0 directory

SuSE downloadable as well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916096)

While Caldera has offered only a crippled version for download until now, SuSE is available on the net.

Just like RedHat, they're offering it on their ftp server (but mind you, it's REALLY big, unlike tiny RedHat).

Mirrors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916097)

Actually www.redhat.com was dead at the time too

Which versions of... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916098)

libc?
C compiler?
GNOME?
kernel?

etc. does it have?

I'm hoping this is a glibc2.1 distro.

DG

May 10 is for retail boxes (I think) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916099)

I believe that May 10 is the day that the CD's-in-boxes will be available at your local Kompootr's-Am-Us. Obviously the software is finalized some time before the CD's are pressed and the boxes printed.

better RPM tree or still beta stuff (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916100)

Is the layout of the RPMs still this beta stuff
as for GNOME-1.0 or did they start a real clean
up? (look at the Group: entries of the RPMS -
What about GNOME/Libraries, GNOME/Utilities, ...)
Do they still place everything anywhere on the
harddisk? (What about /opt/gnome and /opt/kde
or /usr/gnome, /usr/kde, reloc packages, ...)

Looks like another distributor has released a
new CD (Caldera 2.2, SuSE 6.1) - so we have to
do the same.

Differences? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916101)

I'm using RedHat 5.1. I askipped 5.2 because I'd heard it was mostly just improvements to the install. How does 6.0 differ from 5.x?

Thanks

Take care,
Jay O'Connor
joconnor@roadrunner.com

(more) Differences? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916102)

OK. Here's where I really show I'm outta touch.

What's the difference(s) between 2.2.x and 2.0.36. I'm using the 2.0.36 kernal and wasn't sure if I really needed to upgrade.

I'm running Linux on a single CPU box at home tha t I use mostly for programming (VisualWorks), web stuff, and MIDI programming. What does 2.2.x offer me?

Thanks

Take care,
Jay

Debian... there is no substitute (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916103)

run the commands:
# perl -pi -e 's/ stable / unstable /' /etc/apt/sources.list
# apt-get update
# apt-get dist-upgrade
and watch in awe as apt finds the newest versions available of the packages you have on your system (including kernel 2.2.x), downloads them and does a hot-upgrade with dependancy checking - including removing old cruft that is no longer needed. It makes every other OS's upgrade scheme look sad and pathetic (including NT & commercial unixes). When RPM can do this, maybe I'll try RedHat again, but then again, why would I? ;)

About Debian.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916104)

I also was a redhat user...also SuSE and slackware. I ordered Debian slink and all i can say is WOW. I have never had a better setup. ALL my packages are up to date and current no dependency problems, as easy as apt-get upgrade every day maybe 2 times a day and packages are updated. I would reccomend debian to every linux user.. Of course i am not mentioning any other great points of the Distrib but thats cause i'm on my 15 min break hehe
I am just so happy with it compared to other distribs i have used i always feel the need to share. Give debian a try.

What to do, what to do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916105)

Given your load, the uptime is nothing to brag about. Even Windows is fairly stable if you don't try to do anything with it. Get back to us when procinfo reports your idle time at under 10%.

Debian/RPMFind (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916106)

Try
rpm --rebuilddb

Good mirror sites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916107)

Where is a good list of mirror sites? (not just one particular site)

Cost of 6.0 (or, supporting GNOME) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916108)

Maybe we should wait until 6.0 is actually released before we make assumptions about it. I heard that it will not be available until next month. Let us not speak to soon.

at job. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916109)

That'd be an at job, not a cron job. :)

but, it's not May 10. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916159)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Red Hat 6.0 supposed to be out on May the 10th? Is this the result of pressure from Caldera?

rpmfind (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#1916160)

dselect is not the only tool which has evolved. rpmfind is really pretty cool and seems to work well for me. It probably should be incorporated into glint or gnoRPM.

freebsd (1)

hadron (139) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916163)

At least some significant *BSD stuff does get reported. Do you have anything particular in mind that wasn't mentioned here?

So many dists to try! (1)

whoop (194) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916164)

I haven't even gotten around to building up an OpenLinux 2.2 box yet, and now this. Maybe I'll just wait two or three weeks for venders to make CDs before getting i. Or if I'm bored at work, I could download...

What to do, what to do? (1)

rvdmeent (389) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916166)

jabbo wrote:
Looks like you haven't switched to 2.2 yet

Does it matter whether to run 2.0.36 or 2.2.x? Don't think so, as long as 2.2 kernels keep getting released about every other day I'd stick with 2.0.. but hey, some may argue different ;)

cool. (1)

daywalker (538) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916168)

Yes it will be in the Oct/Nov timeframe based on their release dates for the last 4-5 versions!

RPM 3.0 in RH 6.0? (1)

DrSpoo (650) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916174)

Did RPM 3.0 make it into this new release of Red Hat? I could look for myself if some of the mirrors actually worked...

What to do, what to do? (1)

gavinhall (33) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916176)

Posted by Akira410:

Rofl, that was slightly harsh :o)

Quote from the guy that tries to administrate the NT box here:

"Wow, it had 200 file request this weekend... man! Its been up for a week and a half.. better reboot"

heh.. as you can see we havent put the NT box into play... I doubt we will... Linux is doing just great. That box is a toy :o)

Mirrors (2)

gavinhall (33) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916182)

Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:

http://www.redhat.com/mirrors.html

Has all the mirrors that are officially known to redhat.

LK

What to do, what to do? (1)

jabbo (860) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916184)

Upgrade of course. Looks like you haven't switched to 2.2 yet... besides, who cares how long a box can stay up with a load average of 0.00?

Hell, NT could do that.

What to do, what to do? (2)

felicity (870) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916185)

Upgrade to 6.0, or keep the uptime?:

12:31pm up 319 days, 0:40, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

Does anyone know if... (2)

Masem (1171) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916188)

In experiementing with problems
with the Appletalk module in kernel 2.0.x,
I tried to use RawHide 5.9 to get up to kernel
2.2 with the appropriate package modifications;
however, the kerner RPM as shipped was larger
than 640k, and nearly blew my 486 to chunks.
Does anyone know if 6.0 kernel RPM is made
safe for 486 or lower users?

Mirrors (1)

sighup (1594) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916189)

Um, for some strange reason Red Hat blocks ICMP traffic at their firewall. Go to http://www.redhat.com, then ping www.redhat.com. If I remember correctly, they got tired of people contantly pinging their servers.

heh (1)

axolotl (1659) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916191)

No. I f you can't be bothered to re-write it (or even copy & paste it), then I can't be bothered to go look for it.

axolotl

heh (1)

axolotl (1659) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916192)

No. If you can't be bothered to re-write it (or even copy & paste it), then I can't be bothered to go look for it.

axolotl

Nay! (1)

axolotl (1659) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916193)

It's not all GPLed. Qt, for a start. Even if they use the new license. And Netscape for another. And anything using a BSD license. Free Software is not equivalent to the (L)GPL. I'm not saying that's good or bad, just pointing it out.

axolotl

See Previous Artical (1)

BadlandZ (1725) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916194)

Not to repeat myself, see my comments on the RedHat/ZDNet artical about Red Hat 6.0 prices? :-/

There will be several kernels (1)

BadlandZ (1725) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916195)

Size I am not sure of. But if Starbuck is any indication:

kernel-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm 3266 Kb Mon Mar 15 20:14:00 1999 kernel-2.2.5-4.i386.rpm 4439 Kb Tue Apr 6 18:50:00 1999 kernel-2.2.5-4.i586.rpm 4356 Kb Tue Apr 6 19:27:00 1999 kernel-2.2.5-4.i686.rpm 4355 Kb Tue Apr 6 20:04:00 1999 kernel-BOOT-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm 2546 Kb Mon Mar 15 20:14:00 1999 kernel-BOOT-2.2.5-4.i386.rpm 2757 Kb Tue Apr 6 18:51:00 1999 kernel-doc-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm 762 Kb Mon Mar 15 20:14:00 1999 kernel-doc-2.2.5-4.i386.rpm 766 Kb Tue Apr 6 18:50:00 1999 kernel-headers-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm 811 Kb Mon Mar 15 20:14:00 1999 kernel-headers-2.2.5-4.i386.rpm 829 Kb Tue Apr 6 18:50:00 1999 kernel-ibcs-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm 27 Kb Mon Mar 15 20:14:00 1999 kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm 184 Kb Mon Mar 15 20:14:00 1999 kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.5-4.i386.rpm 185 Kb Tue Apr 6 18:51:00 1999 kernel-smp-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm 3070 Kb Mon Mar 15 20:14:00 1999 kernel-smp-2.2.5-4.i386.rpm 4229 Kb Tue Apr 6 18:51:00 1999 kernel-smp-2.2.5-4.i586.rpm 4212 Kb Tue Apr 6 19:27:00 1999 kernel-smp-2.2.5-4.i686.rpm 4212 Kb Tue Apr 6 20:04:00 1999 kernel-source-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm 11065 Kb Mon Mar 15 20:14:00 1999 kernel-source-2.2.5-4.i386.rpm 11608 Kb Tue Apr 6 18:50:00 1999 kernelcfg-0.5-4.i386.rpm 17 Kb Thu Feb 25 16:47:00 1999 kernelcfg-0.5-5.i386.rpm 16 Kb Sun Mar 21 20:20:00 1999

So, it looks like there is now at least a smp kernel that will ship and be an option. But, Red Hat enables a heck-of-a-lot in thier default kernels. The best bet is to get the kernel__src.rpm and compile it yourself, because only inabling what _you_ need will always increase your system preformance a bit. (sometimes only a little, but it's a lot on older systems, so, it's a catch 22... if you have a slow system, you need to compile it, and it will compile slow, if you have a fast system, you could compile it more quickly, but don't need to as much).

Differences? (1)

dananderson (1880) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916196)

RH 6.0 has Linux 2.2.x kernel, the released KDE, and a newer Gnome, better install/setup/config (they say), among the usual updates.

BTW, ping/ICMP is blocked to RedHat because of possible Denial of Service (DoS) problems in the past.

Differences? (1)

jelwell (2152) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916199)

Redhat 6.0 contains the new 2.2.x kernel and also glibc2.1 both of these additions over the 5.x are extremely valuable to the desktop user.

On another note 6.0 comes with GNOME and kde, and also x11amp. :)

Joseph.

Official release (1)

GrenDel Fuego (2558) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916200)

If you want to get 5.9, you can get it from Cheapbytes for $1.99 (or wait a few weeks for the final release of 6.0)

Cost of 6.0 (or, supporting GNOME) (1)

GrenDel Fuego (2558) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916201)

For 5.2, there was the standard edition for $39.99, and the secure edition for $79.99.

The Secure edition included Apache SSL 128 bit encrypted version, and most likely Netscape 128bit encrypted.

What to do, what to do? (1)

edward (2630) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916202)

this is exactly why you should install beta software on machines you can safely reboot.

Online chat with Bob Young on Monday afternoon (3)

planet_hoth (3049) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916204)

Bob Young will be attending an online chat on
Abc News's website (abcnews.com) today at 2:00PM
EST(?).
The URL they give is:
http://chat.abcnews.go.com/chat/chat.dll?room =abc_bobyoung
Just thought you might be interested, you can go ask
him a bunch of questions about 6.0.

Debian/RPMFind (1)

bradyh (4324) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916213)

AFAIK RPMFind _is_ incorporated into GnoRPM. I haven't fiddled with it much but it looks very slick. The only problem is that it often takes packages a few days to appear on the RPMFind website. I tend to find RPMs a lot faster searching for them on Lycos (FTP search).

As far as Glint goes...when you install GnoRPM it automatically removes Glint. Wave bye-bye to Glint...say hello to GnoRPM.

upgrade path (1)

onethumb (4479) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916214)


What's the actual procedure? I'm assuming you simply download the new distribution and then install it over your old?

Or is there an actual upgrade method?

Lucky me, I just purchased 5.2 about 2 weeks ago. Haven't even installed it yet, but just in time to get out-dated.

*sigh*

Cost of 6.0 (or, supporting GNOME) (1)

luge (4808) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916219)

I bought 5.1 from RedHat because I think they do great things for the community, and because 39.95 really isn't a huge hit in the wallet for what is essentially a contribution to GNOME, Enlightenment, and some of the other cool stuff that comes out of RHAD Labs. I was planning on making a similar "contribution" for 6.0 and the assembled documentation.

Going to RedHat's pages, though, shows that the only packages currently available are $299 or more. No way can I afford that. So: (since I know some of you Redhat folks must be reading this): are there any plans for a cheaper copy of 6.0? Or are we all going to migrate to Cheapbytes, Debian, or FTP? I'd love to keep helping out, but this is ridiculous.
~luge
(P.S. Since metalab actually gives me a faster data transfer rate than my CD-ROM, this is not just an idle threat...)

On mirrors? I don't see it. (1)

Casshan (4998) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916220)

I've tried nearly all the .com, .edu, .net, and .ca servers listed on redhat's mirror page, and all I see is redhat-5.2.

upgrade path (1)

Alan Shutko (5101) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916221)

Download new redhat, make boot disks. Boot with disks, and it'll ask if you want to install new or upgrade an existing. (At least, that was the procedure for RH5.x and RH4.x.)

what on the CD the non GPL'd stuff ?? anyone (1)

Alan Shutko (5101) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916222)

If it's like RH5.2, there won't be any commercial software on it. A bunch of non-GPLed software, but all under various free licenses.

I don't envy you (1)

cthonious (5222) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916224)

I got as far as 57 days before I wanted to upgrade kernels. I hated rebooting, it made me feel sick ... I really have sympathy for you. Now I try to reboot my machine every 10-15 days so I don't get addicted to uptimes. I can bear rebooting a machine with 10 days, but 317?

On a lighter note, it really is time to upgrade if this is he machine you work on ... I mean, a lot has happened in the last 317 days, kernel-wise.

None of the mirrors seem to have it yet. (1)

cthonious (5222) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916225)

I haven't tried but about five or six of them, though.

Is there a place where I can get an ISO image of the CD, like for Debian?

RPM 3.0 available, too (1)

EngrBohn (5364) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916226)

I don't know if it's in RH6.0, and I don't know what the diff is. I saw it posted on Linux Today [linuxtoday.org] and it seemed relevant, so I made the cross-post.
Christopher A. Bohn

What to do, what to do? (1)

aphr0 (7423) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916232)

Sounds like the netware 3.0 server here. 366 days uptime. It's been up longer than I've worked here. And in a sickly ironic turn of events, it's being taken down and replaced with nt in about a week.

upgrade path (1)

JanneM (7445) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916233)

Ugh. "Upgrade path" sounds so suitey and phbey, it makes me wince.

Sorry, bit it is an upgrade path... If you want, we could all call it "update way" or "The Road to Further Enlightenment" (which is oddly fitting, considering enlightenment is a package...)

Not to be taken seriously, BTW :)

What to do, what to do? (1)

kirk (8400) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916235)

10:22am up 325 days, 22:31, 6 users, load average: 0.99, 0.99, 0.99

That is a server that, currently, is just running rc5des. But it has been running a variety of databases, from Sybase to DB2 to Oracle to MySQL to PostgreSQL...

It is just a poor Pentium 90 with 64 megs of RAM. It swaps pretty hard some times but keeps going. I've even had to move /usr and /home around a few times because of disk space problems. No rebooting, though...

I have to use NT on my computer at work, and I think it is pretty stable, but the last straw for MS was when I installed IE5.0 beta and it rebooted my machine without asking. Not even a 'rebooting now... ok' dialog. How can they expect people to do serious server tasks with so much rebooting?

Kernel RPMs (2)

Mooset (9986) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916242)

Using precompiled kernels from RPMs is usually risky at best. You end up with a kernel that has alot of stuff you don't need and lacks a few things that may be useful to you. I'd recommend downloading the kernel source and reading the documentation to find out what dependicies are needed if you don't already know. Those can be installed as RPMs just fine, and I'm pretty sure 5.9 has them all. Once you do that, compile the kernel yourself. It isn't difficult at all, just do the following from the directory you untarred it to:
make menuconfig
make dep ; make clean ; make bzImage
You will then have a nice new kernel that you can move to your /boot directory and add into /etc/lilo.conf. As long as you only select what you need in menuconfig it should be just fine on your 486.

Debian (4)

Xar (11113) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916244)

This is NOT meant as a troll.

I am a long-time RedHat user who, while waiting for 6.0, ended up trying out Debian. Though it required a _tad_ more work to get up and running properly, I must say that I now have an incredible system. dselect and apt are wonderful, and allow me to add and remove software extremely easily. The days of searching the net for lone RPMs are gone; now, I simply add one line to /etc/apt/sources.list, fire up dselect or apt, and then use my new software (which, btw, has just been installed into my menu for KDE in X, automatically.)

If the mirrors are too busy, you might want to give Debian a try. I didn't think I'd be that impressed, but I was wrong; I dig it.

RedHat is still good. I am not saying it sucks; all flames to /dev/null. I just dig Debian, and felt the Debian team deserved a pat on the back. :) Good job, guys (and gals!)

Debian (1)

pertti (11310) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916246)

Exactly the same thing happened to me. At first Debian seemed a handful, but once it's up and running, you've learned a bunch of new stuff and the administration is a whole lot easier. And, encouraged by my good experiences, I even let apt to upgrade my system to potato. All in all, Debian is much more elegant and clear in thing like naming conventions and file locations than RedHat. Debian packages are thoroughly tested (the downside is that they are not the most recent) before they make it to the distribution and it's well known for its security vs. RH's default open-doors-policies. And, of course, I can spare the money and download OFFICIAL CD images to burn them...

So Nice job, Debian!

PS. I do think the RH guys deserve some applause too.

Wish I could get it ... (1)

Market (11472) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916248)

Now it's been announced on /. - should add a few days extra onto the mirroring.

It only started syncing two hours ago on the local mirror. :-(

Aargh! (0)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916250)

It just starts appearing at 5pm & I have to go home (I have a life unfortunately).

I suppose I could quickly setup a cron job to start sometime in the evening...

ahem... (0)

belbo (11799) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916251)

Haven't you noticed how /. works? You can actually *submit* stories (there is a link on the left, ya see?)... So stop complaining and start participating.

Regards

belbo

Cost of 6.0 (or, supporting GNOME) (1)

Caballero (11938) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916252)

The press release [linuxtoday.com] says it'll cost between $40 and $80. (What's the difference? The included telephone support perhaps?)

The $299 was the support program as I recall.

- |Daryll

What to do, what to do? (1)

Grifter (12763) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916254)

Actually I've seen NT crash while sitting there, running nothing (many times). And the longest I've had my NT box was 20 days, and my Linux box has now been up well over 70 with no trouble.

what on the CD the non GPL'd stuff ?? anyone (0)

johnjones (14274) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916259)

does anyone know what is on the CDs not the GPL'd stuff

redhat are cool for letting you download all of the os unlike SUSE or Caldera because you just get tryouts and so on pooh

but I want to know what is on the CD I am going to buy !?

any flaws ??

john

where can I get RH 6.0 on CD? (1)

Skeezix (14602) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916264)

I checked cheapbytes, linuxcentral, and linuxmall.
Didn't see it available yet. Anyone know of a
place where I can buy it on CD now?
-------------------------------------------- --------
Jamin Philip Gray
jgray@writeme.com
http://students.cec.wustl.edu/~jpg2/

No mention on redhat.com, except.... (1)

Clockwork (15658) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916266)

I find it extremely amusing how the RedHat website has no mention of 6.0, except in the list of /. headlines. Then again, they've never been very good about letting people know what's going on...

upgrade path (1)

MikeTurk (18201) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916274)

Usually, the RH install program says

  • Install Install RH on a new system
  • Upgrade Upgrade an existing system

So, yes, there is an upgrade procedure.


Mike
--

I bought 5.0 and LSL/CheapBytes thereafter (1)

Larry_Dillon (20347) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916282)

I bought the boxed set from RedHat the first time and have been getting the cheap CD's after that.
I figure that RedHat is providing a service that I feel is valuable and they would like to be paid for their efforts -- no problem. But paying the full price every six months? I feel like I've paid my dues (the RedHat tax?). Especially considering RH's place in the OpenSource for-profit food chain.
If everyone who used RH bought once, they'd be rolling in dough.
Some famous Dead White Male once said that if you can will it as a universal it passes muster, so I think this is ethically OK

What to do, what to do? (1)

austad (22163) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916283)

The longest we ever had an NT box stay up was just over 1.5 months, then it locked up for no reason at all. It wasn't doing anything either, just sitting there. Most of our NT machines have to be rebooted at least once a week, mostly every couple of days though.

Insert new kernel while running??? (1)

austad (22163) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916284)

I heard something awhile back about a program you could run that would insert your new kernel while your machine was running so you wouldn't have to reboot. Anyone heard anything about this??

what on the CD the non GPL'd stuff ?? anyone (1)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916285)

Accually 5.2 came in many different versions. Some like the SSL version for example came with... well SSL (which comes with the RSA encryption software which ISN'T free)

Debian/RPMFind (1)

wifflefan (23164) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916286)

I use RPMFIND all the time gnoRPM...it works awesome. I do, however, keep getting "free list corrupt" messages--anybody know what that is?

upgrade path (1)

Le douanier (24646) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916289)

Your're very lucky to have bought it 2 weeks ago, you've been up to date for 2 weeks... One of my friends just bought it today (since it is only available on ftp sites if i have correctly understood you will be up to date a few more days).

upgrade path (1)

maw (25860) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916294)

Ugh. "Upgrade path" sounds so suitey and phbey, it makes me wince.

Of course, all mission critical synergistically enhanced corporate package data mining and report generating suites need upgrade paths to facilitate corporate executive migrations.

cool. (1)

kokopelli (29209) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916301)

Not sure what your information source is, but Red Hat Linux 6.0 is definitely not based on Starbuck 5.9.7. There were several more betas released prior to cutting 6.0. Obviously there were problems in the early betas . . . that is the whole point of a beta. Take a look at 6.0 for yourself before making statements about the quality of the release.

ummmmmmmmm (1)

hax0r (29263) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916302)

i found one directory on all the mirrors labelled "Redhat-6.0" but it was empty.
methinks one has pulled the proverbial wool over cmdrtaco's all-seeing eyes.

apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade (1)

evin (31167) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916303)

You mean you have to reboot to upgrade Redhat? Bah, I think I'll stick to Debian.

Official release (1)

Headache (31700) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916304)

Wo! Do not get the Cheapbytes Starbuck 5.9 cd!! I got it, formatted my poor Slackware 4.0 beta drive, installed Starbuck, and well it was a mess, and I promptly went back to Slack. Let me just stay that evertime I clicked on anything (gnome) as root, the xserver would die-- and it would show an error stating that I (root) 'did not have access permisions'. It is so totally unstable beta, I would not recommend the Cheapbytes Starbuck cd for anyone! I assume they will have fixed it up on the mirrors, but the way it is on that cd...

Wish I could get it ... (1)

gfolkert (41005) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916309)

It ain't down, the maximum users at rawhide.redhat.com is 50.

ftp.redhat.com is for private redhat use only now.

Just wait a while, whould be a good thing in a bit. Order the CD from cheapbytes.com in a couple of days.

No mention on redhat.com, except.... (1)

Queuetwo (42128) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916310)

Take a look at the very bottom of the page (just above the copyright) - where you would expect to fing *old* news, they have a link to the press release. You'd think they'd have put it at the *top*...

upgrade path (1)

aalexander (160683) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916316)

Red Hat 6.0 should upgrade very cleanly over 5.2, if it works anything like most previous versions of Red Hat.

Official release (2)

lycurgus (225464) | more than 14 years ago | (#1916317)

The following is an email reply from someone at RedHat concerning the new release:

Chris Esler wrote:
>
> I have redhat 5.2 already. But, I have seen on several ftp
> sites of a new version called starbuck (5.9 I believe). I was wondering
> if you are offering it on cd, as my 56k modem will not do justice for
> the ftp install.
>
> Thanks

We expect to release our new version of Red Hat Linux sometime within
the next 2 to 3 weeks. I suggest that you check our website every
Monday morning for an official release announcement.

Best Regards
Alice
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