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Well? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11545835)

Do I fail it?

Re:Well? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11545859)

Crap, I can't believe I actually got a first post!! And I had nothing at all to say. By the way, this message is brought to you by the number 12. 12 12 12 12 12 12 12 12. I can't stand that stupid 12.

What about it? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11545838)

By golly, it JUST WORKS! Doubly well on Mac OS ECKS!

Conversation recording feature already included! (5, Funny)

GMFTatsujin (239569) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545844)

All it takes is a moment to fill out the Freedom of Information Act forms.

*rimshot*

Re:Conversation recording feature already included (1)

stephenisu (580105) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545965)

I hear when you do that, you get Director Commentary as an added bonus. (still trying to figure out what agency he is a director of though)

Also, did you know that tin foil hats cause excessive sweating when hidden under a beanie?

Re:Conversation recording feature already included (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546352)

I hear when you do that, you get Director Commentary as an added bonus. (still trying to figure out what agency he is a director of though)

Which part do you doubt?

That Echelon logs voice traffic (even standard POTS)? The Congressional inquiries already got that information out.

Or do you think that "speech to text" logging is years away, and understood only by those scientists reverse engineering UFO parts?

Or are you so comfortable with Big Brother, that you'll refuse to believe even an admission by the government that this exists?

Or do you just hate freedom pesky Bill of Rights which may be used to protect people who are law abiding, but perhaps too dark to gay or too poor for your comfort level.

Nations never go "mad" like the Stalinists or the Nazi's... they just persecute the fringes, treating those who will turn a blind eye (like yourself) as "good" people.

Given your discrediting statement, when this stuff is NOT A STATE SECRET... I'd have to conclude you understand the issues but that you have about as much appreciation for democracy as the World Bank. You Pig.

Michael Sims? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546025)

Michael Sims appears to have been fired (contrast Slashdot editors page [slashdot.org] with Google cache [64.233.161.104] ). Can anyone confirm?

Re:Michael Sims? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546061)

Oh I damn hope so.

Re:Michael Sims? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546093)

Holy !@#@&#

This is the best thing to happen to Slashdot in... well, ever.

Re:Michael Sims? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546181)

Oh come on, ditching Jon Katz was the last best thing to happen to Slashdot...

Re:Conversation recording feature already included (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546106)

Live free or Diebold

Have you heard about the new German soap opera revolving around the life of a voting machine salesman? It's called "Die Bold Und Die Beautiful".

Isn't this the KaZaa people though? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11545853)

Aren't they the spyware kings? Can I really actually trust these people with software I install on my computer?

So far the Mac OS X world has been generally free of spyware and malware. Looking at this Skype release, I feel like the Native Americans watching the first wave of pilgrims coming off the boat, smiling and wanting to trade smallpox-infected blankets with us.

Re:Isn't this the KaZaa people though? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11545870)

Check it out: image [skype.com]
NO spyware!
Adware, malware.

At least they use politically correct PNG files.

Re:Isn't this the KaZaa people though? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11545894)

OK. Are they telling the truth?

Re:Isn't this the KaZaa people though? (4, Informative)

Grey Ninja (739021) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546033)

yes. They make their money this time around by billing us for using the PC2Phone services that they offer. They charge about $0.02 per minute, which I am willing to pay.

These are the early Kazaa people... (4, Informative)

winkydink (650484) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546036)

that sold it to the Spyware weiners

Clarification? (1, Redundant)

rackhamh (217889) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545860)

In case the site gets Slashdotted and since the article doesn't clarify, can somebody explain what Skype is?

The site ISN'T slashdotted. (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11545871)

Re:The site ISN'T slashdotted. (1)

rackhamh (217889) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545923)

Well, from where I am, the site took a long time to load, which made me think, "Hey, if I'm having trouble, others might too -- maybe somebody can clarify for those of us who are having trouble accessing the site, since the article doesn't really say what the product is".

You know what, you're right -- I guess that line of thinking DID merit a troll mod and your jackass reply. What was I thinking???

Re:The site ISN'T slashdotted. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546053)

Google is never slashdotted. Just type in "Skype" and get the cached version of the page if you cant get to the website. Jesus.

Re:The site ISN'T slashdotted. (1)

rackhamh (217889) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546116)

You know what, you're right.

Hey, you know what? Maybe all Slashdot articles should just list the name of the product from now on! Then users can go to Google News [google.com] to find out what news is out there for the product!

Think of the benefits!

1) Slashdot bandwidth will be spared.
2) Time to post new articles will be decreased significantly.
3) Google traffic will increase, raising the stock price.

Really, it would be a win-win situation! And nobody would ever feel justified asking for more info ever again!

Re:Clarification? (3, Informative)

TekMonkey (649444) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545876)

Skype is a Voice-over-IP program that runs on your computer. It allows you to make phone calls over the internet to anywhere in the world for free.

Re:Clarification? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11545903)

You can tell an "IN SOVIET RUSSIA..." joke TO Russia! You might be killed after that, though.

Re:Clarification? (4, Informative)

WolfWithoutAClause (162946) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545886)

VOIP P2P App. [google.com]

Re:Clarification? (1)

rackhamh (217889) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545992)

Thanks. I don't know why it's taking so long to load over here...

Re:Clarification? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11545893)

Skype is a technology hyped up sky high.

UNFAIR MODERATION (1, Offtopic)

Staplerh (806722) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545897)

Oh give me a break, maybe his comment didn't deserve a moderation up, but he is NOT a troll. Oh well, hopefully some moderators will rectify this problem - and somebody can provide a nice concise answer of what exactly Skype is, and why we should care.

cmon (1)

messias_bikini (809057) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545997)

should newsposters now link every word to dictionary?
http://www.skype.com/ [skype.com]

http://www.google.com/search?q=skype [google.com]

for the 1% who doesn't heard of skype at all...

Re:cmon (1)

geoffspear (692508) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546047)

You misspelled "99%". Hope this helps.

Re:Clarification? (1)

b374 (799492) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545932)

I just took a look on the announcement [skype.com] and although it is dated on February 1st there seems to be no real news here.

Same old features are announced that I have in Beta 0.92.0.12.

So will we have announcements like this every time a software reaches 1.0 version?

good step, almost there (4, Informative)

Staplerh (806722) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545869)

Great move for Skype, anything that lets people on different platforms use the same software and interact freely with each other is a good thing. I speak from a the perspective of a Mac OS X user. However, the OS X port isn't all the way there - at least Skype admits it. From their FAQ page:

I click on the links that say "Skype Me" but it does not seem to work?
Sorry, in some cases SkypeMe links do not currently work with Skype for Mac OS X.

Hopefully they can iron out that little quirk and we can get Skype everywhere. Now I'm going to have to check this thing out for myself!

Re:good step, almost there (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11545946)

Also, you can't join a multiparty text chat yet (conference calling, on the other hand, works fine). But overall, Skype works well on Mac OS X. It looks and feels like a native Mac app, and--dare I say it?--it just feels cleaner than its Windows counterpart. YMMV.

Spyware (2, Interesting)

_damnit_ (1143) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545877)

Can anyone tell me if this is loaded with spyware? I'm up to my neck with a project and don't have the normal time to research this.

My apologies for the lazy attitude today, but somebody had to ask.

Re:Spyware (4, Insightful)

jxyama (821091) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545907)

maybe i'm naive, but this news is about skype for Mac and Linux. are they *any* spyware for either platform?

Spyware is Windows only... (2, Informative)

LinuxGeek (6139) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545998)

According to several sources, spyware is still Windows [theregister.co.uk] only. That may someday change, but I haven't even been able to get the few viruses I have tried to install correctly inside of wine yet...

Re:Spyware (4, Informative)

cgranade (702534) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546014)

You're naive. OK, sorry. That was rude, but I couldn't resist. Anyway, the difference is that under MacOSX and Linux, you must opt to install spyware... it won't be installed by browsing the net. In fact, someone could create a fully open source spyware program! Then all you'd have to do is convince people to install it. That's the easy part. The other thing is that if one luser installs spyware, the other users are not adversely affected.

Re:Spyware (1)

Bulln-Bulln (659072) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546290)

In fact, someone could create a fully open source spyware program! Then all you'd have to do is convince people to install it. That's the easy part.

Install Adbar [squarefree.com] now! ;-)

Re:Spyware (1)

xouumalperxe (815707) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546368)

well, there's always a first. And a company KNOWN to do the spyware thing is a perfectly reasonable candidate for being the first. This said, I'm under the impression that skype is spyware-less, independently of the platform.

Re:Spyware (4, Informative)

LinuxGeek (6139) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545919)

If you click on the linux link, it shows a graphic that says:
NO
Spyware
Adware
Malware

Re:Spyware (1)

cgranade (702534) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546031)

What motivation do you have to trust them? I'm not saying it is spyware, but rather that to simply say that since they say it isn't it can't be is a tad naive. As far as things go, yes, they could get sued for false advertising if it is false, but I don't know how much that scares Sharman.

Re:Spyware (2, Informative)

LinuxGeek (6139) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546062)

See my other post just above your last post.

Re:Spyware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11545925)

Can anyone tell me if this is loaded with spyware? I'm up to my neck with a project and don't have the normal time to research this.

It's not. Really, trust me on this one. I um, looked it up. Yeah, really - I swear I did.

Nope.. (2, Informative)

benjaminchoate (593966) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545933)

Not sure why you should believe me, but no it doesn't. :)

I've been using it for over a year now and it's been spyware-free from the start.

I've had some small problems with 1.0 releases... (3, Informative)

VValdo (10446) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545989)

Nope. Not that I've found, and I've been using the betas for both Linux and OS X up to the release today. Both work pretty well, and I get the feeling that Skype is pretty clueful as far as spyware goes. I mean, they encrypt communication by deafult.

I have noticed some problems though with both the 1.0.0.1 release of Linux and OS X's 1.0.0.0. I would think it's my machine only, but testing Skype requires (okay there is that echo account for testing, but you know what I mean) others, and others ahve been having problems too.

In Linux, I've had problems getting conferencing working properly, when using a USB headset (/dev/dsp1), rings are not heard on the /dev/dsp as set in the preferences. Also, I had a weird thing happen where the skype screen is only half-drawn.

In the 1.0 Mac version, someone who I was talking to suddenly cut out. Turned out Skype crashed on 'em. I also had some conferencing issues on my mac.

Overall however, skype is great. The fact that you can do conferencing + IMs and voice chat is encrypte is a big plus. the sound quality is great as well. Congrats Skype!

Gentoo users-- 1.0 was in ~arch this morning!

W

Re:I've had some small problems with 1.0 releases. (5, Funny)

winkydink (650484) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546068)

Help me understand. It crashed, you can't hear the phone ring and it only draws 1/2 the screen and it's "great"???

Can I interest you in a "fantastic" used car?

:)

Re:I've had some small problems with 1.0 releases. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546375)

Compared to most of the recent Debian software, that is great.

Re:Spyware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546091)

Skype doesn't come with spyware.

Stop spreading FUD (2, Insightful)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546342)

What spyware? I've got the latest build of Skype installed on my XP machine. When I run Ad-Aware, it finds no spyware. 0, zero, ziltch, nadda, NOTHING!

Please people, stop spreading FUD!

I Just Recorded A Skype Conversation Today (4, Informative)

Alexander (8916) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545917)

With the latest release.

use Wiretap. Worked like a charm, creates a nice .aiff file.

Re:I Just Recorded A Skype Conversation Today (4, Informative)

GlassHeart (579618) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546203)

Be careful with things like that. It's against the law in some places to record a telephone conversation without the knowledge of the other party. Linda Tripp, the infamous friend of Monica Lewinsky, faced criminal charges for that.

re: recording feature (4, Informative)

Mr. Cancelled (572486) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545927)

Now I'm only waiting for some conversations recording feature. I'm not positive, as I haven't used Skype, but I think that Audio Hijack [versiontracker.com] will likely record such items just fine. It wouldn't be automated, although it probably wouldn't be too hard to automate it with some Applescript, and maybe some Unix scripting on the backside.

Just a thought...

Conversation Recording... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11545943)

... is always going to be problematic given the legal implications. Different states have different laws, and things only get worse once you factor in the international implications. (Come to the EU and you have to deal with data protection problems as well as interception of communications problems.) So I don't see Skype offering this anytime soon.

The Reporters' Committee for Freedom of the Press has a superb guide ("Can we tape?") to state and federal laws: http://www.rcfp.org/taping/ [rcfp.org] .

What the hell? (4, Interesting)

Grey Ninja (739021) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545948)

I've been using Skype on Linux for months, and using it to talk to my girl who has a Mac. I really fail to see the newsworthiness of this?

Re:What the hell? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546017)

generic obligatory remark about geek with girl.

Re:What the hell? (1)

urbaneassault (233554) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546049)

Official 1.0 release for both platforms hit today, 2/1/05.

Re:What the hell? (1)

kannibal_klown (531544) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546057)

Up until now, the OS X version was in beta (I don't know about Linux). They released version 1.0 today (at least of OS X), so it's finally officially released.

Re:What the hell? (1)

Grey Ninja (739021) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546070)

Ah, I see. Thanks for the info.

Re:What the hell? (5, Funny)

Stween (322349) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546078)

I fail to see the worthiness of your post; you only wanted to shout about having a "girl". As if such things exist...

Re:What the hell? (1)

Grey Ninja (739021) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546164)

Nah, I was just trying to emphasize that it does exist for both platforms. Sorry, I completely orgot where I was. It won't happen again. =)

Re:What the hell? (1)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546340)

Nah, I was just trying to emphasize that it does exist for both platforms.

Untrue, there are no girls on Linux.

Re:What the hell? (1)

dcclark (846336) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546302)

I use Skype on my mac to talk to my girl too. It's great, because we're in different countries -- she in the US, me in Canada.

Yes, girls exist.
Yes, Canada isn't part of the US.

Ain't it grand? :)

Re:What the hell? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546079)

Been using it with OS X for ages too (and it is a pretty good cocoa app, might I add), it's just out of beta now, i guess.

Re:What the hell? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546111)

and using it to talk to my girl who has a Mac
That gave it away, you're obviously lying ;)

Skype box (5, Informative)

Nik13 (837926) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545969)

Although I don't use it on Linux or Mac OS X, Skype works pretty well, voice quality is good, and the NAT traversal is nice - not so much with me, but it saves me from guiding technology-challenged family members and friends through opening ports in their firewall/router, having them read the screen out loud for you can't guess what options are on the screen (quite a pain).

But the nicest thing I did is buy a Skype box (the kind that plugs in your RJ11 and phone "passing thru" the POTS, and the USB port plugs to your PC, allowing you to use a real phone on skype - including having the phone ring (don't have to leave your 5.1 channel set of speakers on in case the "phone" would ring, no need turn monitor on and fumble with all that to take the call). It lets one dial out skype contacts easily too (my 53yo mom can make skype calls with it without having the slightest idea of how it all works).

It's great overall, however it's a bit more complicated, especially given that my "POTS" line is actually coming from a VoIP box. So I have an extra digit to dial on all numbers (1 then the number) for the VoIP box, and the Skype box has some buttons too. Not really hard, just slightly inconvenient, but great savings and features.

I wonder if those USB Skype box thingies will also work with Linux or Mac OS X, they're worth it (unlike the USB Skype phones with a short cord that looks like from a dollar store).

First thoughts... (2, Informative)

Ghoser777 (113623) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545974)

- Nice interface for creating a new account
- Password can't have characters (boo)
- Birthdate has to be MM/DD/YY instead of MM/DD/YYYY

Now... I have to find someone to call for free...

Re:First thoughts... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546072)

My password is made up of characters. Unless you mean a unicode character 0x0b00?

As for the birthdate, I'm not certain, but you'd think it goes by your OS'es regionnal settings (perhaps that might work on some platforms but not another?).

Legal? (And, remember Google) (4, Interesting)

mlmitton (610008) | more than 9 years ago | (#11545980)

Is it legal to record conversations on POTS? If not, is it legal on VoIP, since perhaps the Internet doesn't fall under regular wire-tapping laws? Oh BTW, maybe reference back to the /. story a few days back about Google apparently starting a VoIP product (at least in the UK, which was the source of the article) in the near future. I think we can assume that if Google doing VoIP is true, they'll have a way to record coversations.

Re:Legal? (And, remember Google) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546087)

It is perfectly legal to record any conversation or encounter to which one is a party.

It is eavesdropping on the conversations of others that is illegal and wrong.

Re:Legal? (And, remember Google) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546094)

And if it is legal, what are the laws if you use it to call a land-line based phone? One thing I've always wondered about: is the notification of recording from one party enough so that two parties can record? For instance, if I call a company and get a message that my conversation might be recorded, do I need to give them a warning if I record the conversation on my end?

Re:Legal? (And, remember Google) (1)

Nik13 (837926) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546100)

AFAIK, it is legal to record on POTS as long as you ask the other party first (like all technical support/marketing companies do for "quality purposes") VoIP isn't quite under the same regulations as POTS either (but that probably depends on which country you live in).

OK if your calling other skype users. (2, Informative)

SpacePunk (17960) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546000)

Otherwise you pay for calls to a standard landline or cell user. You can get unlimited voip from at&t to calls in the U.S. (and I think canada) for a flat rate that's relatively low if you use it a lot.

If you don't use it that much then Skype might be a better deal.

Re:OK if your calling other skype users. (1)

kannibal_klown (531544) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546086)

The other nice thing AT&T and other offer is the ability to call your Skype account from any regular phone.

Skype is currently working on this feature (SkypeIn), but I don't know if I'd use it.

I mostly got it for the occasional international call I have to make. They're not often (once every 2 or 3 months), but can last for 2 hours when they do occur. Skype lets me call them for dirt cheap and I don't need a monthly fee.

If I needed it more, I'd consider someone else so I could get a phone number.

Re:OK if your calling other skype users. (1)

SpacePunk (17960) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546169)

Actually, considering that a call to Germany, for instance, costs 5 cents a minute using AT&T voip, and the same call using Skype would run 2 cents a minute. If you made a lot of international calls then Skype looks like the way to go. If you are in the U.S. and make a lot of domestic calls (more than 1500 minutes) then the AT&T solution would be better at $30 a month (probably not including taxes which would push the number of break-even minutes up). My only question about the Skype thing is the coverage. Would a person be able to call somewhere small and get a connection?

Re:OK if your calling other skype users. (1)

Nik13 (837926) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546219)

It all depends on your VoIP providers I suppose. My VoIP cost 15$ canadian per month (basic fee), plus 1.9 cents a minute for long distance (unlimited local, E911 and all). And I use skype "on the side", it cuts in the long distance bills a bit.

Skype coverage? By that I assume you mean POTS coverage? Just check their calling rates, it should show which countries you can call to.

From their FAQ:

Can I call all numbers in all countries? SkypeOut offers calls to all standard fixed and mobile numbers in the world at extremely competitive prices. It might not be possible to access some premium service numbers or other special numbers in some countries.

BeOS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546011)

I use BeOS. How does this concern me?

Re:BeOS (4, Funny)

grolschie (610666) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546189)

If all 3 of you petition them, they might consider doing a port for BeOS. ;-)

Bluetooth? (4, Insightful)

hazzey (679052) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546038)

Can I now get a bluetooth headset and have all the advantages of a cordless phone? The website mentions headsets, but there is nothing about bluetooth.

Re:Bluetooth? (3, Informative)

JohnnyGTO (102952) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546105)

Ya, I'm using a Logitech Freedom(?) Bluetooth headset with my Powerbook and it works great. Sound effects come through the Mac and Skype is setup to pipe its audio and mic through the headset. My office says it sounds very good.

Re:Bluetooth? (4, Informative)

piltdownman84 (853358) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546297)

Im using a Motorola HS820 headset and D-Link DBT-120 Bluetooth Adapter with my powerbook. Works great. Two very important things though if you are using OS X: 1)You MUST use either the D-Link DBT-120 Bluetooth Adapter or the Apple internal Bluetooth. Headsets are not supported with any other adapter but these. 2)You must upgrade the Bluetooth Firmware I wasted the better part of an afternoon with a iogear(?) bluetooth dogle before I was able to find it wasn't gong to work. Also I found that I had to turn the "Input level" all the way up in the Sound Preference pane, so other people can hear me. The output volume works with the buttons on the headset which is great. Good Luck

Bravo! (4, Informative)

Micah (278) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546041)

I just discovered Skype about a week ago. I was thrilled upon seeing that there was a Linux version, even if beta. I live in Ecuador and badly wanted a way to call the States cheap, but was unwilling to put Windows on my computer for that purpose.

Experiences: Downloaded their version from skype.com. Ran it. It instantly hung on the registration screen. Ran it as root, and that worked.

Then realized that it was in Gentoo's portage. Emerged it. It started OK, but crashed immediately upon trying to make a call.

Went back to the first version I had downloaded, running as root, and everything worked fine!

Normally, there's little I hate more than running closed-source software as root, but I'll forgive them this time since 1) it's a beta, 2) they're bringing a valuable service to Linux, and 3) from what I can tell, they are a reputable company with a reputation to tarnish if it did something bad to my box. (Also, my personal box isn't *that* important anyway, and could be re-installed worst case scenario.)

I will try this new version tonight. If the issues are fixed and I can run as non-root, I'll be very happy! If not, I'll be mildly annoyed but still thankful.

Thanks Skype.

Interoperability is good (4, Interesting)

Albanach (527650) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546059)

Interoperability is good but open source is better.

Does anyone know what's happened to the Helix grant that was supposed to bring VoIP to Jabber last year. https://jabber.helixcommunity.org/ [helixcommunity.org]

requires qt 3.2 (1)

Maimun (631984) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546096)

It refused to be installed on Red Hat 9 (qt 3.1)
Time to change to Fedora Core 3, I guess :)

Recording Legality. (0)

john_anderson_ii (786633) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546117)

From my understanding it is perfectly legal to record any conversation that you are personally involved in with or without advising those involved that they are being recorded. You could walk around all day with a mini-cassette recorder in your pocket and record every word that anyone said to you, or could you tap your own phone and record conversations that come into or out of your home.

However, you CANNOT record someone else's private conversation nor tap someone elses phone, nor place a recorder in any place where one might have a resonable expectation of privacy (like a public restroom).

In short if it is your own phone in your own home you can record every word whispered on it and you don't have to tell anybody that you are doing it. It may not be admissible as evidence or anything like that in some circumstances, but there is no law forbidding you from recording your private conversations.

Re:Recording Legality. (1)

pclminion (145572) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546176)

This isn't true -- it varies state to state (in the US, at least).

Tape-recording laws at a glance [rcfp.org]

In California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington, IT IS ILLEGAL to record conversations without the consent of ALL parties involved.

And if you are engaging in a telephone conversation across state lines, you are subject to federal regulations as well.

Re:Recording Legality. (1)

john_anderson_ii (786633) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546343)

Federal and FCC regulations are "one-party" regulations. Only one party, that's you, needs to know the conversation is being recorded. However, this applies to private, non-commercial, conversations only. Business have different rules.

You are correct that several states do have additional laws in place, however, not all of them mentioned need all parties involved to be aware. Some are "two-party" regulations where two of people in the conversation need know, even if it's a three way call.
At least according to this [pimall.com]

Depends on location (2, Informative)

B4RSK (626870) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546266)

It depends on where you are.

In some places you have to inform all other parties that you are recording.

In some places you actually have to get the explicit consent of all other parties.

In yet others you can do what you suggest -- freely record any conversation you are directly involved in.

As for if Skype will implement recording or not, it doesn't really matter. There are lots of 3rd party apps that will record any audio stream.

Closed Source Encryption (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546121)

Am I the only one who refuses to run Skype because it uses encryption and is not Open Source?

Re:Closed Source Encryption (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11546158)

No, there are plenty of linux zealots like you out there. Even if you had the source you probably wouldn't understand a word of it.

Skype and Chat on OS X (2, Interesting)

chia_monkey (593501) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546137)

For about a year and a half, I had to locate myself in Philly while keeping operations of our company up and running in California. My business partner and I had weekly meetings, starting out with Chat on OS X, then audio chat. When we discovered Skype, we switched to that. We found that it seemed to work a bit better. I even used my PS 2 USB headset (originally purchased for SOCOM II) and enjoyed the experience.

Granted, we used it on a very basic level...simply for online chat. I'm looking forward to bigger and better uses, especially loading it onto a wifi-enabled PDA and using it as a "cell phone".

Zaurus? (1)

frankmu (68782) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546146)

is there a port for the Sharp Zaurus? has anyone used it?

Re:Zaurus? (1)

megan_of_wutai (649071) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546236)

No, there isn't.

It's a possibility though, watch this space.

Yet again (1)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546159)

It takes commercial, formerly spyware company to bring a useful too to the masses based on little other then word of mouth. Where is the FOSS tooling to save us from this evil?

Recording Skype calls (4, Interesting)

sprocketbox (636698) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546225)

Turns out that Audacity http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net] will do this just fine. In fact a quick google for skypecasting will pop up some instructions on how do this.

Old news? (3, Informative)

nighty5 (615965) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546256)

I've been using Skype on Linux for at least 2 months.

This seems like old news to me.

Btw, the way they achieve cross platform is they use the QT libraries from Trolltech, of KDE fame.

Excellent! (1)

megan_of_wutai (649071) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546268)

Now, if only it worked on my thinkpad x21. It already works, if by "works" you mean "produces horrible awful distorted sound on both ends".

I'll be happy when they introduce ALSA support.

Automated Monitoring (1)

blogeasy (674237) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546284)

If the conversations can be recorded and intercepted by third parties, it will only be a matter of time before they start automated searching of the conversations to find interesting sounds such as DTMF. There are quite a few important numbers that are transmitted via DTMF over the phone that could be easily deciphered.

No Spyware (4, Informative)

Azeroth48 (855550) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546291)

The Reason that they have no spyware , is because they offer a service called Skypeouthttp://www.skype.com/products/skypeout/ [skype.com] , A telephone service allowing you to call an outside line, which of course you have to pay for

Awwww.....Just rpms? (1)

poofyhairguy82 (635386) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546312)

They have RPMs for every modern RPM distro but not a single .deb. Darn. I could compile it from source, but I have been avoiding that ever since I switched to Ubuntu.

Olympia Cordless for Linux???? (1)

pair-a-noyd (594371) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546344)

I see that it appears to be a eurocentric device and winders compatible.

Now that Linux is supported, will the Olympia be usable with Linux and in the USSA???

Credit Card Issues (2, Informative)

B4RSK (626870) | more than 9 years ago | (#11546357)

I've been using Skype on Windows for some time now. It works really well overall, and especially the PC2PC sound quality is excellent. Usually as good or better than a local landline call.

I have also been using SkypeOut, their 1.7 Euro cent/minute (2.2 US cents). SkypeOut has saved me a lot of cash, both in international calls from home and when making calls from hotels when traveling. Yep, Skype gets out of the usually heavily blocked hotel networks! So instead of being stuck paying exorbitant hotel long distance rates I pay the standard SkypeOut rate. Awesome!

Except.... Skype now refuses to take my credit card to buy more pre-paid SkypeOut credit. I've tried 3 different cards, all of which work on Amazon US and Japan as well as various other sites. No go. :( I contacted their "live support" chat option but was told that Skype is having issues with their card approval company.

Anyone else have the same problems?
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