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Slackware 10.1 Released

Hemos posted more than 9 years ago | from the from-beta-into-the-real-world dept.

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wikinerd writes "Slackware 10.1 was released and it contains the Linux kernel 2.4.29/2.6.10, X.org X11R6.8.1, KDE 3.3.2, Mozilla 1.7.5, Xfce 4.2.0 and several other updated software, as you can see in the official changelog. You can download it right now via BitTorrent."

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kernel (4, Interesting)

essreenim (647659) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596084)

and it contains the Linux kernel 2.4.29/2.6.10

I personally, have no problem with the kernel choice. They shipped 2.4.26 with 10.0 as it is more stable

Re: kernel (4, Informative)

adamjaskie (310474) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596230)

Slackware 8 came with 2.2.something and 2.4.5, your choice which to install, but defaulting to the more stable 2.2.x kernel. This is no different, really. I used 2.4.5, because I wanted to use ReiserFS :)

Re: How about... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596263)

..they ship it with ONE kernel. One WORKING Kernel

You know Mac or Windows doesn't come with 20 different versions and subversions of a kernel.

Just put one in. The one that WORKS.

What's wrong with these people ?

Re: How about... (2, Insightful)

Welsh Dwarf (743630) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596286)

Nothing, they just choose to do something differently, personnally I like having a choice, which is why I use slack. OTOH, if you don't like the choice, you don't have to use slack... try Mandrake, OSX or Windows XP, lot less choice, just IMHO a lot less flexabilitie and fun... HTH David

Re: How about... (2, Funny)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596371)

How about if you ask 8 hackers a question you will get 1000 answers?

Re: How about... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596550)

I did try Mandrake PPC once, that came with 6 different kernels as I recall.

Re: How about... (1)

essreenim (647659) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596304)

ehhh, more than any other distro thats what Slackware does. It always has the older more stable kernel shipped. It is installed as a generid x86 (or whatever arch uou use) in a typcial installtion process (eg. full install) . You dont have to mess around. It shouls all work fine unless you are a noob!

Re: How about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596398)

Windows doesn't come with 20 different versions and subversions of a kernel.

No, but by the time you've downloaded all the updates, patches and service packs (without being pwn3d in the process), you've effectively replaced a ship-load of the kernel.

Dropline Gnome (4, Informative)

Xpilot (117961) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596104)

For Slackware users who love Gnome (like me), they can still use Dropline's Gnome [dropline.net] distribution. It should work out of the box for Slackware 10.1 too.

Re:Dropline Gnome (1)

Coneasfast (690509) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596140)

most people can just use the gnome included with slackware. the dropline one has few tweaks (such as the look) , but other than that i wouldn't really bother.

Re:Dropline Gnome (2, Informative)

WarehouseCU (655929) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596181)

The Dropline GNOME version is 2.8 vs. the 2.6 included with Slackware. I'd say that an entire release is more than a few tweaks.

Re:Dropline Gnome (1)

Minderbinder106 (663468) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596195)

Most b people won't be able to just use the gnome included with slackware when 11.0 comes out because it won't be included anymore. The grandparent didn't read the changelog and assumed that gnome had already been removed.

Re:Dropline Gnome (1)

Lispy (136512) | more than 9 years ago | (#11597614)

Dropline is at 2.8.2. There is built in Hal and DBus support and much more. If you want a real hot Gnome on Slack Dropline is for you, if you want a regular GUI just to get work done you might be comfortable with the stock Gnome but be aware, it will vanish soon.

Re:Dropline Gnome (2, Interesting)

essreenim (647659) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596177)

For Slackware users who love Gnome (like me), they can still use Dropline's Gnome [dropline.net] distribution. It should work out of the box for Slackware 10.1 too.

Why are you punbishing yourself? I use Slackware 10.0 with KDE. They gel well together for me. Of all the Linux distros, Slackware (for me) is the one that epitomises stability. Why not use KDE or FLuxbox. I use KDE for day-t-day tasks and Fluxbox for gaming. Gnome seems to go against the grain of what Slackware stands for. I would use Gnome with Fedora or another big distro if I wanted a "rough and ready" demonstration to pull users away from XP but otherwise no.

Re:Dropline Gnome (0, Offtopic)

essreenim (647659) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596209)

punbishing yourself.... All time low

Re:Dropline Gnome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11598241)

Judging by your earlier post, are you sure you should be commenting on other people's spelling?

Re:Dropline Gnome (0, Flamebait)

orasio (188021) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596225)

KDE looks bad.
Gnome looks good.

That would be enough.
KDE feels like win.
Gnome doesn't.

KDE - I don't know its shortcuts.
Gnome - I do.

KDE - is not GNU.
Gnome - is GNU (well, maybe for most people that's bad, but for me it's great)
Maybe the original poster has some other reasons, but I find these enough to use Gnome.

Re:Dropline Gnome (1)

essreenim (647659) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596410)

KDE looks bad.

KDE looks and feels great. Have you even used it? And it comes fully loaded with a bundle of programs like CDr rippers/players kontact, xmms..

Gnome looks good.

Gnome uses many skins that are a copy of XP and the Windows paradigm ...yukk

That would be enough.

KDE feels like win

...you are sooo mistaken. For example, many of the motifs / skins do not look anything like Windows. eg. Karbon..try it!!!

Gnome doesn't.

...Maybe Gnome has non-Windows looking skins too but its slower than KDE as well

KDE - I don't know its shortcuts.learn them!

Gnome - I do.good for you, well done!!

KDE - is not GNU.still FOSS baby!

Gnome - is GNU (well, maybe for most people that's bad, but for me it's great)1 good trait ;) ! ?

To summarize your post (0)

bonch (38532) | more than 9 years ago | (#11597786)

Translation:

"I like KDE better than GNOME. I see that you don't. Why on Earth don't you stop punishing yourself and just follow my viewpoint instead of your own?"

Why not use KDE? Well, why is your favorite color your favorite color? It's called personal opinion, putz!

Re:Dropline Gnome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596369)

I admit, DLG is vastly superior to stock GNOME. The bad side of DLG is that it replaces tons of official Slackware packages with it's own (incompatible) ones (think linked with libpam, libldap, libfoodiffversion). Try running a built in a DLG box in vanilla Slack or vice versa, you'll see what I mean. You have to be careful with Slack's update packages aswell, you can easily break your system when accidentally upgrading some DLG-s package with Slackware's package. Maybe tools like swaret/dlg's updater can do better work than a human 'tho, not sure :P End of babble.

Re:Dropline Gnome (1)

moronikos (595352) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596604)

They can use Dropline, or just do what I did: switch to Ubuntu. I switched and I haven't looked back having used Slack for about 2 years. The package management w/ Ubuntu (Debian) is simply superior. After it was announced that GNOME was being dropped, I wanted a distro where GNOME was a first class citizen and a distro that wasn't dependent on just one man.

Slackware Lives On (0, Redundant)

demon_2k (586844) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596107)

Good news for all the slackers out there. Dispite recent issues surrounding slackware (Pats illness), Slackware has released 10.1.

I couldn't imagine Linux without Slackware. The most elegant, stable and yet simple linux i ever used. Makes me proud to say "I'm a Slacker!".

Re:Slackware Lives On (2)

fuzzix (700457) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596203)

I couldn't imagine Linux without Slackware. The most elegant, stable and yet simple linux i ever used. Makes me proud to say "I'm a Slacker!".

Looking forward to it myself - Currently running slack on my whipping-boy P90 box which is the test bed for any ideas I need to check out. It's a bit rattly - sometimes there's a bit of turbulence that'll have you hanging on for dear life, but slack has impressed me so much so it's replacing Ubuntu on this desktop - my main box.

I can't wait to play with that installer again - the fact that it allows you to do only what you want (and not in any particular order) was a refreshing change from the 2 dialogue wizard approach (this is your hard disk. This is your monitor. INSTALL) - not that simplistic installs are a bad thing, they just don't do it for me.

Thanks to Pat and the team for this latest release - your efforts are appreciated!

Excellent. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596109)

I have been using Slackware since February 1st, 1997, and I have tried many other distributions. I have found that no Linux distribution matches up to Slackware's speed and simplicity. I shall download 10.1 now. Good job to Pat and the rest of the Slackware team.

- the|navigator

Drugs (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596111)

I thought the Slackware developer died from drugs he obtained illegally through the Internet

Torrent Mirror (5, Informative)

hashinclude (192717) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596112)

In case someone manages to /. the torrents themselves, here [tripod.com] is an alternate location.

Re:Torrent Mirror (1)

darkmeridian (119044) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596355)

I know this is open source, but isn't forking the bittorrent itself bad? There would be less seeds and peers for each set of files, as there are five CDs/torrents.

But go, legal torrents, huh?

Re:Torrent Mirror (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596477)

He meant the torrent files, which will still point to the same tracker and result in connecting to the same swarm of peers. It's simply a precautionary measure in the event that the web server providing the .torrent files is suddenly unable to provide them any longer.

They just kickstart the download.

Re:Torrent Mirror (3, Informative)

Wordsmith (183749) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596536)

Another copy of the same torrent file mirrored elsewhere will still point you to the same network of seeds and peers. It's the tracker that matters, not the host for the torrent file.

Re:Torrent Mirror (2, Interesting)

Cougem (734635) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596704)

He can mirror the torrents but keep the same tracker.

Mirror (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596116)

For those not already in the know about MirrorDot, the non-slashdotted version is here [mirrordot.com] .

Posting as AC so not karma whoring.

Damnit universe! (4, Funny)

theparanoidcynic (705438) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596118)

My cell phone has a text message which appears to offer a second date. Tonight.

Bittorrent has Slackware 10.1 ISOs. Right now.

These things cause conflict in my brain . . . . .

Re:Damnit universe! (2, Funny)

accessdeniednsp (536678) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596212)

TAKE THE DATE!! You'll be glad you did :) Besides, the rule says you can cancel a date with a friend (ISO) if there's a possibility for sex.

(and confirmed by both ross and chandler)

Re:Damnit universe! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596231)

I say invite her over. If you install Slackware and she comes back, she's yours. If you install Slackware and she bolts, then it was never meant to be.

Re:Damnit universe! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596256)

What if he starts the slackware install and she takes over? ;-)

Re:Damnit universe! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596482)

Then I guess they have to fight, except, y'know, not in the traditional sense that we use "fight." In that fight everybody would win, well, everybody except the Slackware installer, which would sit there demanding the second disc for several hours while the humans "fight."

Re:Damnit universe! (4, Funny)

theparanoidcynic (705438) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596516)

Only in a Slashdot fantasy can a Slackware install turn into several hours of sex . . . . .

Re:Damnit universe! (3, Funny)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596457)

Start the torrent download. Go on the date. If it completes before the end of the date, you'll be seeding it for everyone else. (Seeding jokes omitted.)

Real package management? (0)

RichKyanka (837066) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596125)

Has Pat brought this distro out of the stone age yet and included at least a very rudimentary tool for automated Slack updates?

Re:Real package management? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596152)

swaret is great (1)

simetra (155655) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596395)

I had 10.1 several days ago, through updating via swaret.

Actually, my last actual install was 9.0, and I've updated to each subsequent version using swaret and setting it to update against "current"


For more info... go to swaret.sourceforge.net [sourceforge.net]


But, I'll probably buy 10.1 just to do my part in helping Pat with his bills.



Re:Real package management? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11597365)

Slapt-get [jaos.org] works even better than swaret. Swaret doesn't do basic error checking. Check their forums for accounts of /etc being removed.

When will i get Yggdrasil 2.0? (3, Funny)

cybrthng (22291) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596127)

Slackware 10.1 and still no update on Yggdrasil? Come on folks!

Re:When will i get Yggdrasil 2.0? (1)

log0n (18224) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596522)

Bwahaha, oh the memories!

Nothing like using a distro based on .9.something (i forget now, it was a decade ago!). Now there's bleeding edge ;-)

Re:When will i get Yggdrasil 2.0? (1)

sbryant (93075) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596812)

Are you crazy? Yggdrasil is far too difficult to pronounce!

Personally, I want an upgrade to my SLS. That's the real distribution. Who does this upstart Patrick Volkerding think he is, anyway?

-- Steve

Re:When will i get Yggdrasil 2.0? (1)

opqdonut (768567) | more than 9 years ago | (#11597579)

Bah. I use the first *real* distro: Caldera Linux! No updates in a while, though, but it's rock-solid.

Re:When will i get Yggdrasil 2.0? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11597583)

Slackware started as an update to SLS.

Who Cares? (0)

gigem4me (853521) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596132)

Who cares? I sure don't!!!

Ok, self-confessed Debian lover, but ... (1)

ggvaidya (747058) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596135)

... all I want to know is, how's Pat doing?

He hasn't put anything in the changelog (apart from a one-liner, "I'm looking forward to working with all of you towards the next one, too"). Are things getting better? Certainly hope so.

Re:Ok, self-confessed Debian lover, but ... (-1)

SalsaDoom (14830) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596175)

No kidding!

I'm a slacker, and the distro looks great as always and I love new releases... but geez, are you ok pat? I'm thinking here imagining him trying to finish his release before he kicks off. This guys a soldier, you know what I mean?

"Must... finish..."

Probably letting my imagination get the best of me.

--SD

Re:Ok, self-confessed Debian lover, but ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596190)

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=g:thl144565140 7d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=uGIFd.10310%24wZ2.6 459%40newssvr13.news.prodigy.com

That Usenet post is the latest news on Pat's health.

here is the clickable link version (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596274)

Re:Ok, self-confessed Debian lover, but ... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596201)

It could be because of the criticism he's gotten about his rather odd behaviour...I mean really, jumping around between doctors, self-diagnosis...it smacks of being ill in more ways than one. Maybe he just got tired of people questioning his mental health and decided not to talk about his physical any longer.

Re:Ok, self-confessed Debian lover, but ... (5, Informative)

sordid_mammal (806249) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596251)

from the changelog:

And about my status... I didn't want to have to bring this up again, but since a lot of people are under the impression that I've recovered and I'm just fine (and are beginning to make the usual demands of my time ;-), I'd better clarify what's going on. Especially since I'm not exactly fine.

Back on Thu Nov 25, I posted in the ChangeLog that I thought I had infective endocarditis (and was promptly flamed for self-diagnosing again). After so much beating around the bush without getting a referral to a cardiologist, I finally called one myself and waited the two weeks it takes to get in. He is a top-notch doctor and heart surgeon (I was very lucky to be able get in to see him), and with no planting of any suggestion from me whatsoever came to the conclusion that it seemed to be infective endocarditis. I'm still waiting for more test results, but it looks like I finally have someone working on my side. So, lets hope that they get some conclusive diagnostics (I get another echo on Wednesday), that I make it until they do, and that it's not too late for this to be treated without a need for valve (or heart) replacement. I've had a rough couple of weeks (well, months really, but especially the last two weeks), and I have to say that while it's good to have a near-death experience every couple of years to keep your head clear and your focus on the important things in life, having one every morning is too often. With that frequency, they start to become a distraction. ;-)

So, this verson is going to be wrapped up pretty quickly. I hope people will support the release, because I'm sure I'll have a lot more bills before all of this is through, and I'm blowing through what little money I've managed to save. Again, I'm not asking for donations, but I hope that when Slackware 10.1 comes out that people wanting to help out will order it. Also, in case of emergency I've left instructions with some very trusted people, so nobody should have to worry that if something happens to me that their Slackware systems will be orphaned and unsupported. It may be a long road back for me, but there will be people taking care of security issues as they crop up (like the folks at GUS-BR and SlackSec), and if I should make an unplanned departure there is a basic plan of succession in place.

Thanks again to all the kind folks I've known over the years, and I hope to know you for many more. :-)

Your Humble Slackware Maintainer,

Pat

Slackware is great but... (-1, Flamebait)

gustgr (695173) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596238)

I had used Slackware for several years, since version 3.4. Then I started using GNU/Linux Debian and... GOSH! It is so much easier and practical, mainly when you have to install or update new software.

Slackware really teaches you a lot, since you have to do everything "by hand" (at least it used to be that way). But when you just want to get the system working in order to get your needs done, simplicity is the best way. You don't want to lose several hours configuring and editing files, you just want to use the system. That's why I've chosen Debian, it is easier to mantain and quick to "install and use".

I don't know how would I manage a college lab with 40 slackware boxes. With debian, apt and dselect does all the job for me.

As I said there's a long time since I've used slackware for the last time (it was slackware 7.1 IIRC). I know there are some package managers working around, but how good are they? Are they really reliable or the best way still is the "grab the tarball, untar and compile it" from scratch?

Re:Slackware is great but... (1)

Jane_Dozey (759010) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596316)

I'm quite happy with the current package managers for slackware. Swaret seems very good for keeping yourself up-to-date, but of course, I'm yet to find a nice automated way of configuring lots of things from one place (I've never had to do this since I've only ever used 2 machines).
The only reason I've had to grab tarballs and compile by hand is when I havn't managed to find a slackware package or I've wanted to play with the options to make it more hardware specific....or I just feel like it :-)
So far I've had no problems using slackwares package managers.

Re:Slackware is great but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596471)

Funny, I think the reverse.

debian I have to rely on their packages. whereas the 100 slackware boxes here I can easily create the update packages on my server and then push them out to the slackware boxen almost automagically. there are great slackware auto updating apps that both are GUI based for click and drool goodness and command line that run nicely on a crontab so that every midnight all machines self update.

easier, to my specs not the debian guys specs, and I get an insane performance boost over other Linux distros because it's tailored to my users.

debian and mandrake are over 50% slower than my slack boxes, but then there's more processor available on my slack boxen because of the leanness inherent in slack.

Re:Slackware is great but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596555)

Apt-get exists for Slackware, its called slapt-get. I use it and I like it better than Swaret. http://software.jaos.org/

Re:Slackware is great but... (1)

badfish99 (826052) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596591)

It's almost as easy as Debian now: you can just do
slackpkg upgrade <package-name>
to upgrade a package. You still have to fix the config files by hand, but that can happen with Debian, too.

I forgot when i used configure, make, make install (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11597433)

There are two apt-get like systems for Slackware: Swaret, and slapt-get (which I prefer, and is very much like apt-get)

Both of the package managers can be pointed to stable or current ftp/http mirrors, have rudimentary dependancy checkers (not as good as on Deb, or Rpm, but may be it's for the better)


There is also a manual package management tool (a la rpm -i pack.rpm) Check out linuxpackages.net with an immense number of packages precompiled for often 3-4 generations of Slackware. Average time from release of a software package, to its appearance on the linuxpackages.net is about one day. You can download and upgradepkg pkgname.tgz.


The neat part is, no matter what package manager you use, the installed package database is centralized and is always up-to-date.


So far the only problem I encoutered while using package managers on Slackware is when there was the switch in X config file from keyboard to kbd (ir something like that) the X didn't function for many as it should as the config file didn't change automagically.

Re:Slackware is great but... (1)

Bandman (86149) | more than 9 years ago | (#11597526)

back in the day, I actually wrote a little shell script that got put on all the machines I rolled out. It basically wget'ed files from a server and ran a script relating to the version of slackware on the machine. I would still have to manually tell each machine to start, but it was a lot easier than recompiling ssl/ssh everytime something new came out. /also a Slack user since 1996

Gentoo Users... (3, Funny)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596239)

So has anyone done and ebuild for that yet?

(sarcasm)

Re:Gentoo Users... (1)

phobos13013 (813040) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596303)

sure, just enter 'emerge unix10.1'.

Re:Gentoo Users... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596707)

No, but there are plenty of SlackBuild's in 10.1 - You know, those script-thingies that have been around since before you were just a twinkle in your daddys eye. Mwuhahaha!

*kicks sarcastic Gentoo kid in the nuts*

I suggest you buy it (5, Interesting)

GauteL (29207) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596261)

Patrick Volkerding, the heart and soul of Slackware is sick, and have requested that users of Slackware buy it to help cover his medical expenses.

He doesn't ask for charity, only that people who use it, actually BUY it instead of just relying on BitTorrent.

Personally I don't use Slackware, but if you are a user, you know what to do.

Re:I suggest you buy it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596297)

I think he should ask for charity. If he do need money for it, that is. I mean -- how many will follow the logic of "Purchase Slackware => helping Volkerding" vs "Donate to medical expenses => helping Volkerding". Especially when not all people don't want to go through the extra trouble of purchasing Slackware and it's much easier to just put a donation on a PayPal account or whatever.

Re:I suggest you buy it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596325)

Also, if he did like that, you and anyone else could help too, not only the Slackware fans.

But it's of course his decision. If he choose to sacrifice health for some stance against donations, it's up to him.

Do what I do... Automatic donations! (1)

arfonrg (81735) | more than 9 years ago | (#11598437)

I have online banking and I set it up to send Slackware $5 every paycheck.

By the end of the year, Patrick gets $120 from me (more than he would with subscriptions) and since it's only $5 per paycheck so I don't even notice.

(Then I download the images with BitTorrent and save him a little money on mailing and the disks).

Re:I suggest you buy it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596498)

ive been using slack forever and just been putting it off on buying a actual release. if there ever was a time to show support, this is it

https://store.slackware.com/

Re:I suggest you buy it (5, Informative)

Skater (41976) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596844)

I'm on the automatic subscription plan. Very convenient, and it supports my distro of choice. Slightly slower than downloading it, but I'll probably have the discs later this week or sometime next week, so it's really not bad at all.

Re:I suggest you buy it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11597950)

me too, since 9.0

Re:I suggest you buy it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596900)

Personally I don't use Slackware, but if you are a user, you know what to do.


And I I just did it.. along with a t-shirt and a polo shirt from the Slackware store.. while grabbing images over bittorrent. ;)

Pat makes a great distro.

Re:I suggest you buy it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11597321)

I have been a Slackware subscriber since 1995.

Slackware is, IMHO as a 10 year Linux veteran and someone who gets paid in the 6 figure range as a Linux developer, the best distro there is for servers, bar none.

I am currently recomending Fedora Core 3 as the desktop distro of choice. Notice, I said DESKTOP... DESKTOP... you know, like what people use windows for.

Re:I suggest you buy it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11597725)

I was already thinking about it (and I'm not saying this 'cause i'm an "anonymous coward" :) )
A good advice for all, btw

SATA? (1)

cexshun (770970) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596315)

Does it support sata out of the box yet or do I need to upgrade to the experimental 2.6.10 kernel? My hard drive is dying and I want to buy a SATA, but I'd like to avoid any unnecessary issues that this may cause.

Re:SATA? (2, Informative)

jprior2001 (787374) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596389)

There is a SATA boot floppy http://slackware.at/data/slackware-current/bootdis ks/

And there is a SATA kernel selection.

Re:SATA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596390)

yeah sata works out of the box

Re:SATA? (1)

simetra (155655) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596418)

I believe that's a kernel issue; your kernel supports it or it doesn't. The other day, recompiling, I believe it was 2.6.10, I discovered that by default I had SATA support, though I didn't really want/need it.

Re:SATA? (1)

Jane_Dozey (759010) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596437)

Don't quote me on this but AFAIK there will be SATA support. I have no idea if it'll be "out of the box" but I have heard reports that there's a SATA enabled bootdisk avaliable (I haven't read the changelog or anything yet).
I'll have to try it out later since I already have a SATA hard drive :-)

FYI, there's a SATA ISO floating around somewhere for slackware 10 that some kind soul made. It runs just fine, but I can't remember where it was hosted :-/
Perhaps if SATA _isn't_ supported out of the box someone else will follow suit and make another one for 10.1.

Re:SATA? (1)

essreenim (647659) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596567)

I originally had trouble with s-ata on my box. I managed to get a hold of a tailor-made CD with a sata bzimage. That's the beauty of Slack - i has such a great community of people behind it. Even if the offical distro has some shortcommings, they are more than made up for by the support and the distribution itself

[insert Gentoo jokes here, hehe]

Re:SATA? (1)

ananke (8417) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596727)

The default kernel is 2.4.29, which includes similar support for sata drives as 2.6.10. Simply boot to 'sata.i' for the installer.

Subscription (1)

datadriven (699893) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596345)

Are the disks in the mail yet?

Return of official security updates? (1)

ponds (728911) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596347)

Will this mark the return of official security updates for Slackware?

I don't really trust third-party packages, which is the only thing that was available for 10.0 and a long time on current.

Once Pat got nearer to 10.1, security updates for current were available, but I can't run a development branch.

I know that Pat was sick, and I don't blame him for this at all. But I really hope that with 10.1, Slackware will reclaim its status as the distro with the best security updates.

Slack Slowdown (4, Insightful)

erikharrison (633719) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596411)

This is great news. Slack is the most important of the one man distros, and it's always a worry that something might make Pat (and Slack, by extension) topple and fall.

But this doesn't seem to be a real worry. Pat's dropped Gnome out of the core distro, which is really better for everyone - Gnome eats up huge amounts of Pat's energy, and Slack has been an Xless or KDE centric distro for a while now. Dropline Gnome is pretty sweet, so even after Gnome was included in Slack, most users I know used Dropline anyway.

Pat's made it clear that he has made plans for Slack to continue in his absence should anything happen to him, so no need to migrate my desktop just yet, and in light of Pat's recent illness the Slack community has really backed him up - and I also like seeing the third party packagers for Slack get included in the distro. It's nice seeing the Slack community gel over the recent trauma.

All in all, Slack seems as healthy as ever, even if of late, Pat hasn't been

Re:Slack Slowdown (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11597000)

Thanks to Pat and everyone else for a great distro. Keep up the good work! :-)

Of Course... (1)

J-Doggqx (809697) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596460)

...Right after I downloaded 10.0. Back to the Torrents for me.

More server apps in Slackware (1)

opablo (770440) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596489)

Is it just me ?

I really think slackware linux should include some BASIC server apps like PostgreSQL [postgresql.org] , Squid [squid-cache.org] , Socks5 [permeo.com] , UnrealIRCd [unrealircd.com] , etc.

do you ?

Re:More server apps in Slackware (1)

ananke (8417) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596888)

An irc server being a basic server app? somehow I don't think that will be included anytime soon. pgsql could be a nice addition, but squid/socks/irc is a bit too much.

Re:More server apps in Slackware (1)

Alan Hicks (660661) | more than 9 years ago | (#11597266)

An irc server being a basic server app? somehow I don't think that will be included anytime soon. pgsql could be a nice addition, but squid/socks/irc is a bit too much.

I'm with you on an irc server. That's just not basic server software (though that does not necessarily mean it shouldn't be included in and of itself). As for Postgres, MySQL is already included and I feel it would be redundant to include two SQL servers. SOCKS just doesn't seem to fit for me, but there's nothing like squid in Slackware and a general purpose proxy server would seem to be a Good Thing(TM) to me.

And no, Apache is not a "good enough" proxy server.

Re:More server apps in Slackware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11597467)

Postgres is superior to MySQL you infidel!

Re:More server apps in Slackware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11597856)

Postgres is and has been available as an addon package dating back to Slackware 8.1

linuxpackages.net

Dependencies?!?!? No, no, I use Slackware :) (3, Insightful)

michelcultivo (524114) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596651)

Coming from various distributions that use dependencies on their packages (RedHat, Debian, Conectiva) I got some problems trying to customize some software. And with Slackware my life is getting more easy now, God save Patrick and maintain Slackwares "Free Dependencies".

test (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596694)

test

Patrick is sick .. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11596737)

BUY this release to show your support for Patrick's work and to help with his medical bills. While it is great to download it and forget about his health state, please remember hes still not out of the woods health-wise.

thanks

Thats great, but . . . (1)

uberjoe (726765) | more than 9 years ago | (#11596949)

I'm wondering if I should bother upgrading to a *.1 release. I'm running slack 10.0 with 2.6.8 kernel, and I already upgraded kde to 3.3.2 (s10.0 came with 3.2). Is the benefit worth the effort of an upgrade, or should I wait for slackware 11 with some really big updates? I love slackware and want to support the project, but I just got my slack box just how I like it, and am reluctant to bork the whole thing.

Re:Thats great, but . . . (1)

darkcamel (815068) | more than 9 years ago | (#11597083)

Hey do what you want! I am still using Slack 9.1 on my main box, everything is still truck'n along. That is one of the cool things about Linux, don't do what you don't want to. The Camel has spoke!

Re:Thats great, but . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11597468)

if you bork it, then unbork it when 11 is released

Re:Thats great, but . . . (1)

simetra (155655) | more than 9 years ago | (#11597676)

FYI, the last actual install I did was 9.0... and I've been using swaret to update ever since. This is a good way to stay current without having to reinstall from scratch. Some people say there are problems with swaret, but I've never experienced any. I've got 2 slack machines I've been keeping updated this way, no problems at all; a thinkpad and a regular pc.

2.6 (1)

ilikeitraw (706793) | more than 9 years ago | (#11597865)

When I got 10, I needed to use 2.6 in order to get my wireless working on my Thinkpad. 2.6 has good wireless support. Slackware is the dopest.
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