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Use A Regular Phone For Cellphone Calls

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the convergence-knocking dept.

Communications 248

nizo writes "Not too long ago I decided to get rid of my landline, however I miss being able to make a call with a regular phone, especially long calls that might drain my battery. It would also be nice if I didn't have to hunt for my cellphone at home when it rings. Well, it looks like there is a simple solution with a Cell Socket, a cradle for your cellphone that can be used to attach your cell line to one or more regular phones." Even better, for those with a landline or VoIP phone, would be a system that automatically picks the cheapest route out for any given call.

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psh, rotary beats that anyday (5, Interesting)

biryokumaru (822262) | more than 9 years ago | (#11602984)

stolen from hack-a-day:

a rotary cellphone [sparkfun.com]

Re:psh, rotary beats that anyday (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603006)

w00t, first mod!

Re:psh, rotary beats that anyday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603007)

Dupe [slashdot.org]

Re:psh, rotary beats that anyday (1)

thundercatslair (809424) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603028)

If I had more knowledge in electronics I would love to make this. Imagine bringing that on the bus and busting it out to call someone, everyone would be amazed, you could pick up so many women with it. Remember women are like voltron, the more you put together the better it gets.

Re:psh, rotary beats that anyday (2, Informative)

Scurra UK (143378) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603088)

You can often get them on eBay, they're known as Pokias (check out pokia.com [pokia.com] for the bloke who started it all)

Re:psh, rotary beats that anyday (0, Offtopic)

RavenndudE (831260) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603344)

That's sweet .... if i only had a use for it http://macminirelay.blogspot.com/ http://macminirelay.blogspot.com/ http://macminirelay.blogspot.com/ http://macminirelay.blogspot.com/ http://macminirelay.blogspot.com/

Re:psh, rotary beats that anyday (1)

That's Unpossible! (722232) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603542)

What i want is a cell phone in the shape of one of those old rotary handsets... just the handset, not the base with the dial on it. Nice heavy feel in your hand. Small enough where it wouldn't be a complete pain in the ass to carry it around, but still bizarre enough to be funny.

Color (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11602987)

Does it come in any other color than white?

Article Text Without FUD (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11602991)

Re:Article Text Without FUD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603027)

I think we have a new /. sub-culture.

Re:Article Text Without FUD (4, Informative)

mrdaveb (239909) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603073)

Why is this same joke being modded funny on every story where it gets posted? If anyone were to bother to RTFA, they would see it is a pretty straight-forward article. What could there even be FUD about?

Re:Article Text Without FUD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603201)

For some reason, these people find old jokes funny every time they hear them. The mods must not have any sense of humor.

Irony works by saying something that's not expected. So since I expect a soviet russia, old korean, cmdrtaco, etc joke on every discussion, it's not ironic so it's not funny.

IN SOVIET RUSSIA... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603374)

YOU'RE not funny!!!!!!

Social Experiment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603266)

  • Mod this post down if you are utterly revolted by Linux enthusiasts' disgusting hygiene.
  • Mod this post up if you don't know what the above refers to.

LOL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603362)

I think the results speak for themselves. Nice job!

Re:Article Text Without FUD (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603359)

Umm, the Bill Gates interview is over here [slashdot.org] .

Enter Asterisk... (3, Insightful)

PornMaster (749461) | more than 9 years ago | (#11602997)

I think that you'd be able to hack something together with Asterisk to do the "Even better, for those with a landline or VoIP phone, would be a system that automatically picks the cheapest route out for any given call." bit.

Re:Enter Asterisk... (0)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603014)

Let me be the first to ask... what's Asterisk?

Re:Enter Asterisk... (0, Flamebait)

vslashg (209560) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603056)

Let me be the first to ask... what's Asterisk?
No kidding. I wish there was some tool [justfuckinggoogleit.com] to help answer those kinds of questions.

Re:Enter Asterisk... (2, Informative)

Prophetic_Truth (822032) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603389)

Asterisk is an open sourced pbx project that has really matured. Some people still gripe about its scripting, and difficultly to set up, but I find it a breeze. If you're relaly interested check out the Asterisk Wiki [voip-info.org] .

I tell you... (3, Funny)

Faust7 (314817) | more than 9 years ago | (#11602998)

Just the cosmically wrong image of my sleek Nokia cell sitting right next to a black Western Electric rotary phone is enough to make me want one of these.

Re:I tell you... (1)

soft_guy (534437) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603138)

Actually, I've been *really* wanting an antique Kellogg 925 bakelite phone vintage 1930s. The problem is that I no longer even have a landline to use it on. This would be cool.

small issue (1)

way2trivial (601132) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603222)

if it's anything like my vox.link (same idea, from radio shack) you have to use DTMF touchtones (incl # to 'send') it's generating a real dialtone.

Re:I tell you... (1)

Analogy Man (601298) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603475)

Although you can't take that old rotoray with you to the beach, after 50 years there is probably no degradation in performance and it won't drop calls. I won't be dumping my land line any time soon!

um... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11602999)

Even better, for those with a landline or VoIP phone, would be a system that automatically picks the cheapest route out for any given call.

For those with a VoIP phone, there's already such a system: always use the VoIP phone.

Out of batteries? (2, Funny)

game kid (805301) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603004)

I miss being able to make a call with a regular phone, especially long calls that might drain my battery. ... Well, it looks like there is a simple solution with a Cell Socket, a cradle for your cellphone that can be used to attach your cell line to one or more regular phones."

Apparently the server needs a Cell Socket.

I can't wait for the page to be...well...not-Slashdotted.

Nice idea (-1, Redundant)

mrdaveb (239909) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603015)

This is a nice idea, but wouldn't it be better to have a system that let you use your traditional landline-style handset even when you aren't in the house?
http://www.pokia.com/ [pokia.com]

Well... (2, Funny)

Seabass55 (472183) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603029)

"especially long calls that might drain my battery."

It seems like a simple solution would be to not talk on the phone so long.

Re:Well... (2, Insightful)

Doppler00 (534739) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603053)

And you can always just plug the phone in and use a headset. This would be exactly the same as using a landline (wired phone), only you can unplug the phone when it's done charging!

Re:Well... (3, Funny)

paulkoan (769542) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603282)


Exactly. What is a slashbot doing on the phone anyway?

Haven't they heard of email? Or IM? Or text messages?

Or any other technology that means you aren't reminded everytime that it is another human you have to talk to.

interesting (3, Interesting)

blew_fantom (809889) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603031)

with cell phone plans getting cheaper, this looks to be a viable alternative what with national call plans and competitive prices from all providers. the only thing of course, is that to have DSL, you need an actual phone number/line. unless everyone is going to run to cable, land lines are here to stay. that and many places don't even have cell towers anywhere near them so cell phones are useless in many areas anyway. in that respect, i don't see the land line market dying anytime soon.

Re:interesting (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603152)

I'm not so sure about DSL requiring a phone number. I know it needs a phone line, but according to some Speakeasy promotional materials, one of the advantages of signing up for their DSL service is you can drop your landline service if you don't use it. Maybe this is new, but I'm not at all surprised.

Re:interesting (3, Informative)

technobard (247654) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603300)

When SBC first started offering DSL (many moons ago), they would only install it on a second line. This second line did not require a phone number. They have since moved away from that, but for reasons too long to get into, I still have service setup that way. Whenever I talked to them, they always encourage me to switch to the Yahoo DSL branded offering. They really want the line back.

Re:interesting (1)

wayne1932 (678829) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603516)

I have an SBC DSL line. I have fiber to the curb. When I finally found out I could get DSL, the Phone man run a new pair to the back of my house to the NIC, and installed a circuit card in the pedestal. Later the DSL installer came to the house, ran a CAT-5 cable through my attic and installed the modem in my computer room.

I think two lines are just a convenience in FTTC areas, otherwise filters are necessary to prevent interference.

Re:interesting (1)

delirium of disorder (701392) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603572)

Get the Yahoo service. I used the old second line SBC (It used to be ameritech) DSL for years. I just upgraded a few months ago and am now getting 300kbps easily down (at times over 700kbps). Before I could only get around 60kbps down on average 300kbps max.

Re:interesting (1)

k.ellsworth (692902) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603541)

Here in Chile, IFX Networks, offers a "clean pair (phone line without phone service on it, just the cooper wire)" for xDSL Connections, for like 2US$ more.

my wife and i, have each a 1000 minutes cell plan, so a land line is "useless" for our scenario.

ummm cellsocket sound nice, not that cheap, but nice

Cheapest route is easy (2, Interesting)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603041)

I have a set of lookup tables on my asterisk server which do this.

Of course the cheapest route is always analogue, so it's not a great advert for VOIP :)

Not sure I'd want my mobile phone to link to it though.. that's a separate number that only a few trusted people know.

TFA (2, Interesting)

Teclis (772299) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603042)

I hope their phone system is built better than their webserver.

I can't RTFA right now, so my only concern is the ability to adapt to different cell phone manufacturers, and what about newer cell phones after purchase. Otherwise, this actually doesn't sound like too difficult a project, but it's the idea that counts. This kind of device can easily be created with a few components and a PIC for under $10.

Re:TFA (1)

TheGavster (774657) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603278)

No, you see, the phone system *is* the webserver. Who says 56K over cell isn't fast enough to handle web services?

Well, apart from the way the page doesn't load.

Kid's telephone (1)

Sprotch (832431) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603050)

They stopped selling those nifty [mymoshop.com] phones for kids... Paranoia?

Re:Kid's telephone (1)

RobertLTux (260313) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603243)

No i would call it stupidity and bad engineering 1 ~90 percent of the rf from the cell phone is going out the antenna (remember SWR type stuff) 2 handsfree kits should work with any phone made in the last 3 years (standard 2.5 mm stereo plug) 3 therefore you should design the phone: 1 with a handsfree jack and earpiece 2 so that the antenna gets pointed away from the head 4 profit!!

Fast Forward (5, Informative)

classzero (321541) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603074)

Cingular offers a device called a fast forward. You put the device in a cradle that connects to the landline and it automatically forwards all calls to your landline while charging your device.

Re:Fast Forward (1)

classzero (321541) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603113)

I'm sorry, I worded that post wrong. You put the cell phone in the fast forward cradle and all calls are routed to whatever landline is plugged into the cradle.

I have got to start using the preview button.

Re:Fast Forward (5, Informative)

DrewCapu (132301) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603121)

Cingular offers a device called a fast forward. You put the device in a cradle that connects to the landline and it automatically forwards all calls to your landline while charging your device.
You're more likely to get a better score if you give a link [cingular.com] about what you're talking about :)

Re:Fast Forward (1)

classzero (321541) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603158)

I would but I'm at work and my firewall won't let me get to that particular page. If I told you where I'm working you'd fall out of your chair laughing.

Re:Fast Forward (5, Funny)

grozzie2 (698656) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603341)

you are working at a place where the firewall wont let you got the cingular site, but will let you post on /. --- I'll take a wild guess that you must be somewhere in the support department at cingular...

Re:Fast Forward (4, Funny)

BigZaphod (12942) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603522)

Oh, dang. I thought the fast forward would let you skip ahead in time during conversations... :-)

Easy solutions... no extra kit required (4, Insightful)

KillerCow (213458) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603076)

I miss being able to make a call with a regular phone, especially long calls that might drain my battery.

When you get home, plug your phone into the charger. If you use it, leave it plugged in.

It would also be nice if I didn't have to hunt for my cellphone at home when it rings.

Leave it in the same place... attached to the charger.

Re:Easy solutions... no extra kit required (1)

egburr (141740) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603194)

I do exactly that. However, I have been utterly unsuccessful at convincing my wife to do the same with hers. Her battery is dead more often than charged; she checks her voicemail more often from my phone than from hers. Of course, she also handles her keys the same way; there have been times we've spent half an hour looking for her keys because she just sets them down wherever she finds convenient at the time.

Re:Easy solutions... no extra kit required (1)

zakharin (595312) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603287)

I actually tried that. The phone was not charging at all while in use and the battery went dead in the middle of a call due to the backlight turning on every time I accidentally disconnected the cable and had to reconnect it.

Re:Easy solutions... no extra kit required (1)

nizo (81281) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603430)

Sadly I only have a cradle charger, which makes it impossible to talk on the phone while it charges. I hate carrying it around at home, so leaving it in the charger makes sense but the ringer isn't loud enough to hear everywhere in my new house, which means I miss calls unless I am carrying it. Plus I keep picturing a big tumor on my side where it hangs all day, which makes me want to carry it around the house even less :-)

google cache (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603079)

Re:google cache (1)

nizo (81281) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603402)

I can't decide if I should feel happy that my article was accepted or sad that I caused the destruction of a poor innocent website. I should have ordered one before I posted the article, because now they will probably raise the price to pay their extra bandwidth fees :-(

Slashdot product test theory (5, Funny)

billyradcliffe (698854) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603080)

A company has a product. Slashdot notes the companies product. Company's website becomes Slashdotted. Product == No Good.

How does one come to this conclusion?

The company's website is Slashdotted, therefore it cannot handle a massive amount of traffic, therefore they did not expect this much interest in their product, because they have little faith in said product, because, well, they developed it and they themselves think it sucks, so it must suck.

Just a thought... ;)

Awesome concept though...I would love this. One of the biggest things I hate about talking on a cell phone for an extended period is how warm the phone gets cause of the battery.

Mod parent up. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603190)

wish i had some mod points..

Re:Slashdot product test theory (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603226)

One of the biggest things I hate about talking on a cell phone for an extended period is how warm the phone gets cause of the battery.

Think of how warm your brain gets cause of the transmitter.

Important Note for users with dialup internet (4, Interesting)

Veovis (612685) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603130)

For those of you who live in an area without high speed internet access, devices like these will not allow you to use your cellphone to make calls to analog (traditional) internet service providers. (Same applys to mobile/flea market merchants with credit card terminals that dial into their processing center) 99.9% of cellphones are on a digital network (CDMA/TDMA/iDEN/GSM/GPRS/etc) and can not provide the channel clarity needed for analog signals

Re:Important Note for users with dialup internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603175)

What on earth are you talking about? This has nothing to do with internet service at your house.

This is an "adapter" that routes your normal phones over your cellphone service. If you can stand in your house and talk on your cellphone, then you can use this. No internet service required. You plug the cellphone into the cradle, and plug a -normal phone- into the cradle. When you pick up the normal phone and dial, your call is placed using the cellphone network. The voice quality will be exactly the same as if you were actually using the cellphone because that's what you're doing.

Re:Important Note for users with dialup internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603199)

Oh, and also forgot to add - yes, you can call any phone you want to. Since you're just using your cellphone's service, if you can call it with the cellphone, then you can call it with this device. This is not Skype. This is not VoIP (Vonage, CallVantage, etc).

Re:Important Note for users with dialup internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603221)

ah... I'm retarded. Parent poster is indeed correct. Sorry I misread. Mod all these down, and all that jazz.

Nix the analog ISP, use the cell phone (1)

aquarian (134728) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603276)

This shouldn't be a worry if you have a digital cell phone. A simple cord turns your phone into a modem. With Verizon, for example, you get full internet access, billed simply as regular phone minutes. There's no additional charge. The speed is only 14.4, but that's plenty for email, credit card validation, etc.

Re:Important Note for users with dialup internet (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603519)

Same applys to mobile/flea market merchants with credit card terminals that dial into their processing center) 99.9% of cellphones are on a digital network (CDMA/TDMA/iDEN/GSM/GPRS/etc) and can not provide the channel clarity needed for analog signals

Bull. Do you know what kind of modem a credit card terminal uses to authorize transactions? A 300 baud old POS. Why? Because there isn't much data to send to the credit card company, and a 300 baud modem will work with the crappiest, noisiest POS phone lines.

Phonelabs Dock-n-Talk is an universal dock (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603157)

The Dock-n-Talk seems to be a much better product than the Cellsocket.

http://www.phonelabs.com/prd05.asp [phonelabs.com]

It claims to work with over 400 cell phone models and has a bunch of features not found in the Cellsocket.

While we are on it, does anyone know of a product that allows you to make landline calls THROUGH your cellphone? Here is my idea:

1) Landline phone hooked up to a cell phone (Phone A)
2) You have another cell phone (Phone B)
3) Both cell phones are on UNLIMITED Mobile-to-Mobile plan.
4) You place a call from Phone B to Phone A and tell Phone A to dial a number through your landline.
5) You chat on the phone for 3 hours AND USE UP NO MINUTES since you are on Mobile-to-Mobile connection.

Viola, UNLIMITED PEAK MINUTES AT PRICE OF 2 CELL PHONES, CHEAPO 2-PHONE PLAN, AND UNLIMITED LANDLINE!!

Re:Phonelabs Dock-n-Talk is an universal dock (1)

wondermog (772429) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603467)

I am the owner of a Phonelabs Dock N' Talk, and I must say, it is feature packed, 100% reliable, and otherwise indistinguishable form a regular landline phone. Being a heavy cellphone user, I don't have any number memorized with the exception of my own, opting to select them from my Sony Ericsson T616 phonebook. I was pleased to find that holding the pound key activates the built-in voice dial feature of the teleophone. In addition, I have not had a single problem with the phone being buggy or otherwise malfunctioning while interfaced with the device. It's an excellent product and I can see no aspect in which a competing product could improve on its design. note: I have absolutely no affiliation with Phone Labs, other than being a customer of theirs.

Re:Phonelabs Dock-n-Talk is an universal dock (2, Interesting)

zarthrag (650912) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603471)

For the price of a landline AND two cellphones, you just might find an unlimited plan :-p

Doesnt asterisk do least cost routing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603162)

Doesnt asterisk do least cost routing?

wait for competition (2, Interesting)

edstromp (522727) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603164)

Cellsocket is a great idea. I looked into them extensively about 2 years ago. But they didn't make a version for my cellphone, and worse, they were quite slow to develop new adapters for new phones. This is a great market for such a device, but I honestly don't think it'll really take off until the cell manufacturing companies start making this a default must-have accessory with every new phone.

Nothing sucks more than being forced to buy an old, outdated phone, just so you can use the Cellsocket.

LCRs (5, Informative)

mindriot (96208) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603167)

Even better, for those with a landline or VoIP phone, would be a system that automatically picks the cheapest route out for any given call.

Basically, you're looking for something like Least Cost Routers [google.com] (anybody wanna translate this [wikipedia.org] ?). These things have been very popular in Germany ever since the telecom market was deregulated. In Germany you can use other (landline) telecom providers through a Call-By-Call system, dialing the provider's prefix before your actual phone number if you want to use a provider other than your default one (e.g., 01033 for German Telekom [telekom.de] , 01013 for Tele2 [tele2.de] ). There's whole websites [billiger-telefonieren.de] dedicated to providing lists of the cheapest call-by-call providers. These LCRs can store such lists of providers and their rates for different types of calls (i.e., local, long-distance, other countries, cell phone networks, etc.) at different times of the day/week, and the automatically prefix the number you dial with the cheapest provider's. Of course, lists can be updated manually or automatically. Now, I'm not sure if anybody has built such a device with cell vs. landline vs. VoIP in mind, but if that exists, other Slashdotters who can be bothered to look it up instead of working ;-) will surely post links...

FWIW, there's also an isdn4linux-based LCR tool [voip-info.org] and corresponding phone rate databases [sourceforge.net] (see English summary at bottom) available. For cell/landline/VoIP solutions, if there's nothing else available, there is probably a good starting point.

Telular (4, Informative)

jammer 4 (34274) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603200)

I had a Cell Socket for a while, then it died. Plus, I couldn't upgrade that one phone either since it was only compatible with a few models.

What I settled on was a Telular [telular.com] box. It's a company that makes high end boxes for companies that need phone service where there isn't anything but cell. They've got a bunch of products and it works pretty good for most needs. You can even hook it into a phone system so you can route your companies long distance through it to use free long distance minutes.

FYI, Sprint is doing a trial with Telular boxes in selected cities as a way to replace your land line.

Been done for years with Cingular FastFoward (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603225)

Has anyone stopped to think, hey, we already have this technology with Cingular FastForward? Not trying to hawk a service here, I'm just saying, it's been around for a long time!

Health benefits (1)

kaedemichi255 (834073) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603239)

Also might be good for those users that have a cellphone next to their brain 24/7. Although the risks are "undetermined," better safe than sorry :)

Helps Avoid Phone Numbers & Phones (1)

smug_lisp_weenie (824771) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603251)

With a system like this you could just buy a mondo cell phone plan and use your cell for all your calls- When you're at home, you just plug in the phone, and now it's your home phone number- I like it!

cell phone cordless phone (3, Informative)

lemonboy (456438) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603283)

according to an advertisement in CE magazine this cordless phone from uniden will allow you to make calls from your cellphone using the handsets in the house...via the dead bluetooth http://www.uniden.com/productpop/00_productpop.cfm ?prd_code=ELBT595

Record cell phone conversations! (2, Funny)

aquarian (134728) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603291)

Another benefit of this is being able to record cell phone conversations, if that's something you need.

How much does an article-ad cost on Slashdot? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603298)

Hey Guys,

Please post some ad rates so that I too can have a fake article advertisement. Also, when did Slashdot begin posting advertisement articles? You editors really need to communicate with us better. Maybe you could put in a special Advertisement Icon.. I suggest $$.

I WISH I HAD MONEY (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603351)

I've had this idea for _YEARS_.

As someone that did this in 1992... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603381)

what's the big deal? You could buy analog POTS interfaces for cellphones to use to connect to answering machines back before voicemail was commonly available. I had a 110V answering machine running off of an inverter in my car just like the ~300 or so other people I installed them in. It was a very common thing to do. I also had one at home connected to my demarc point. Add a 12V power supply plus free calls from Sprint since I sold their service, and whole-house cell-phone service in 1992!

Option #2 (2, Informative)

torinth (216077) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603396)

Another option would be to get a VOIP phone (i.e. Vonage) for home, and have it simultaneously ring your cell phone when it's called. Then you can just have people dial the VOIP phone when they want to reach you, leaving you to decide which line to pick up.

Of course, this means you'd need to get a new line with a recurring fee if you don't already have a VOIP line, which will cost you $20+ per month instead of whatever fixed rate the cell-socket costs. But its worth considering.

Nothing new actually (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603415)

There was a similiar item available for certain models of Nokia phones a couple years ago that did the exact same thing. The market didn't embrace the concept then but I could easily image that it could now.

But is anyone going to use it? (1)

dadjaka (827325) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603419)

Even though you've got a dock, I bet most people will keep using their mobile as a mobile. That's what it was designed for, after all.

Heh (-1, Troll)

GeorgeMcBay (106610) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603423)

This is most non-subtle paid PR story Slashdot has ever run.

Re:Heh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603574)

Slashdot paid mods modded this in the most non-subtle way ever seen.

Stupid Trick (1, Interesting)

scovetta (632629) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603425)

I've been using this (stupid) trick to talk to my girlfriend (long distance): Party A: Forward your cell phone to Party B's Land-line, then call your own cell phone FROM your own land-line. Now you're both talking on normal-size phones, and you're using cellular minutes (good for night/weekends). Sure, you're double-paying slightly, but it's definately worth the not-brain-tumors [funnytimes.com] .

I got one about a year ago. Here's my impression. (3, Interesting)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603428)

I got one of these about a year ago.

I recently built a vacation/retirement house in a remote area (where I could get a landline but can't get DSL or cable internet) and got cellphones to use during the construction project - then decided to try using them with a cell socket rather than installing a landline. Didn't work as well as I'd like.

My phone is an older Nokia model and the service AT&T (now Cingulair) wireless. That company is the only carrier available in the area - and no GSM, just TDMA (and maybe AMPS but I can't tell for sure).

The Cell Socket works reasonably well for voice calls.

It provides charging current when the cellphone is ON hook, but stops when the phone is engaged in a call. (Apparently the power brick is too small to power the cellphone and POTS-emulator line at the same time.)

The Cell Socket doesn't provide a dial tone. Instead (if you pick up the POTS phone when the cellphone is plugged in and ready) it provides a series of three beeps. Apparently these emulate the three beeps you get at the front of an intercept recording. My guess is that this is intended to keep people form trying to use modems and FAX machines with the Cell socket.

I tried programming a modem to use it (ignoring the wait-for-dialtone). But even at the lowest speed setting it would not work with the TDMA cellphone service.

(I hear you can get 1200 baud or so through an AMPS cellphone connection. Unfortunately, my phone was a Nokia with AT&T firmware, and (as far as I can tell) those (at AT&T's insistence) can not be forced to make an AMPS call when a digital carrier is available. So I couldn't test that.)

So it's good for:
- Making long distance calls on your cheep cell plans comfortably.
- Eliminating your long-distance carrier on your landline.
- Using your cellphone anywhere in a house when there's only a few good spots for the signal.
- Putting voice-only service into a remote location, where a landline would be expensive to run (or used too little to justify the expense when you already have a cellphone).

But it's not good for:
- Data
- FAX
- Long calls with little time between them to recharge the cellphone battery.

Reception (2, Informative)

Autobahn (785686) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603436)

Another advantage of this that nobody's noted yet is that you don't have to worry about reception. My apartment gets such poor cell coverage that I drop calls just walking around. With one of these I could put my cell in the spot where it got the best reception and leave it there. Or I could just stop pacing maniacally, but then I'd have to cut down on the coffee...

Cheapest? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603483)

Just get unlimited long distance + local from your phone company for $49.95/mo and be done. It really can't get much cheaper.

You need a different cell phone. (2, Interesting)

Jerry (6400) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603493)

My wife and I have LG VX3100A cell phones, We consider her number to be the "home" phone, regardless of where she is. She uses her phone about 1800 minutes per month and I use about 200 minutes per month. She recharges her phone every Sunday and Wednesday or Thursday, and I recharge my phone every Sunday whether I need to or not.

Getting rid of the land line was the best communication move we ever made. It got rid of the telemarketers, too.

GPRS, Cell v.s. Analog dial up?, VOIP in future? (1, Informative)

cocoacow (838794) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603527)

Now here's a question... Or an insight; whatever... I have been using my GPRS data connection for a while, through my cell, to make data connections. While being slower then wifi of any sort (except for these damn congested hotel networks), it is a great tool for say, traveling on a train, and making my connection. Cingular does not make this a vey easy thing to do, but thanks to a lot of patience, and research, i found a few web sites that really helped me out with getting this connection made. With Cingular/AT&T, the data package for full on GPRS all the time is 20 dollars a month, and it's always on as long as your in the GPRS network. The speed seems to be higher then regular dial up, and keeps me connected.

Link:
http://www.taniwha.org.uk/gprs.html [taniwha.org.uk] Great link to scripts to make this possible in many ways with many phones.

Now the future as I see it is using something similiar to Skype, or VOIP technology to enable this as a way that i can be making calls through my computer, and paying for a GPRS connection that is always on. While it's nice to be able to just ring through on the cell, I think 20 dollars a month for a VOIP connection anywhere I can recieve GPRS would be FINE and Dandy! Feel free to add to this if anyone has done any other legwork into this idea.
Now, I figure this might be rate as offtopic, in fact, I fear it, but I see this as being related to some of the other things people have said so far on this topic. Now, I have looked at this product, (thank you anonymous coward for the easy link to the cached site
(here) http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:ZWgMwpNIwucJ: www.cellsocket.com/+cellsocket&hl=en [64.233.161.104]

Now this is interesting.. This was mentioned in an earlier article, on Nov 22, 03.
Are we behind in the times?
http://boogle.cc/index.php?blogid=1&archive=2003-1 1 [boogle.cc] Gotta search for the word cellsocket, can't seem to find an anchor to sink my digital teeth into.

I guess this seems like a neat product, but I want more. And I also question why this wasn't released as ?news? on slashdot till now? Hmmmmm
Well, let me know if anyone has any ideas on the other stuff I went rambling off on. Always on VOIP everywhere would rock my world harder then any hardline home phone thingamajig... Let's make the most of our collective brains, and start up the saucestorm of knowledge.. let it flow free :)

Ditch the landline for FAX machines (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11603539)

I still like using a regular FAX machine for sending and recieving so I keep my land line around. Too much hassle with alternatives. Would be nice to use this device with my 'ol FAX to finally give 'ma bell the ax.

Ok, (1)

fireman sam (662213) | more than 9 years ago | (#11603554)

so we have the inconvenience of a fixed phone with the cost* of a mobile.

Has this guy not heard of a battery charger?

*In Australia off peak calls with mobiles are about $0.50 per minute local calls on land lines are about $0.30 flat rate.
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