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Fans Attempting to Pay for Enterprise

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the maybe-for-firefly-but-not-for-enterprize dept.

Sci-Fi 847

An anonymous reader writes "What started of as a suggestion to pay for season 5 of Enterprise has actully snowballed into a project that no one has ever attempted before, that of getting fans to pay for the production costs of a tv series. It has brought on board a raft of people including lawyers. I wonder if the quoted $50 to $80 million is reachable." I gotta say that Enterprise has been better this season, but I feel like it's still only mediocre. Battlestar Galactica might be the best SciFi airing right now. And I woulda chipped in for more Firefly in a heartbeat.

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Misapproriated Funds (2, Insightful)

mod_critical (699118) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607428)

Wow, talk about fanaticism! I mean, I like Star Trek too, but when was the last time you saw a bunch of desperate couch potatos try to put $80 mil together for medical research, space exploration, or charitable distribution? Seriously, luxuries beyond beer seem like a major drain on mankind sometimes...

Let's see... about 6 weeks ago? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607454)

Remember that tsunami? Remember the millions of dollars that private citizens donated?

Re:Let's see... about 6 weeks ago? (-1, Flamebait)

strelitsa (724743) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607533)

Are you seriously trying to compare an effort to assuage the misery of hundreds of thousands of destitute victims of a natural disaster with saving a failing television show?

In some cases, posting as an AC is a good thing. Karma is not just a concept on Slashdot.

Re:Let's see... about 6 weeks ago? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607598)

No, I'm responding to "when was the last time you saw a bunch of desperate couch potatos try to put $80 mil together for medical research, space exploration, or charitable distribution?" It does happen.

Re:Misapproriated Funds (2, Insightful)

wo1verin3 (473094) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607496)

It's their money to do what they see fit... did you have McDonalds for lunch ever? Couldn't you have instead given that money to a homeless person? Or give up coffee for a month to adopt a child in another country.

No one (except maybe your wife/gf, but this is slashdot) tells you what you can and can't do with your money... it's not one person donating millions, each person is asked for a small amount. /kick mod_critical #high_horse

Re:Misapproriated Funds (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607553)

No one (except maybe your wife/gf, but this is slashdot) tells you what you can and can't do with your money.

You've got to be kidding. Everyone tells me what I should do with my money. The governement is the worst. They have guns and prisons for me if I don't spend my money in ways they accept.

Re:Misapproriated Funds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607499)

And what do you think of the luxury to waste your time writing messages on /., instead of working to have more money to give to charity funds?

Fuck you (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607512)

Get off your goddamn high horse, cunt.

Re:Misapproriated Funds (1, Flamebait)

WickedClean (230550) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607537)

Do you think people will donate money for space exploration when the closest thing they have to ever visiting space is to watch Star Trek?

Re:Misapproriated Funds (1)

wwest4 (183559) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607572)

> luxuries beyond beer seem like a major drain on mankind sometimes...

Did you happen to see the beer commercials during the Super Bowl? The 4.4 million dollar/minute beer commercials?

Re:Misapproriated Funds (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607582)

Personally, I'd only pay for this if at least some percentage of the donation were recouped from the advertising purchases. Doing something like this would probably bring advertisers in flocks, because they know that a bunch of desperate fanboys (and girls) will be watching.

Re:Misapproriated Funds (1)

segmond (34052) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607585)

It's not "misapproriated" funds... It's their money! if the govt was the one raising such money then you do have an argument on misappropriated funds...

Re:Misapproriated Funds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607609)

You are part of this process everytime you go to see a movie in a theater. The only difference is that these people are paying someone to create the product rather than someone selling a product to the consumers.

Re:Misapproriated Funds (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607630)

On the other hand, when consumers (i.e. "common" people) band together and insist on what they want, against the wishes of some Goliath, that always seems a little inspiring to me, even if the goal itself is a little silly. At least it shows that it's possible to win over those major corporations who see fit to tell us what we want. And anyway, you know, man does not live by beer alone...

Let's just make sure the people organizing this thing don't get to be in charge of the writing, or we may find that in season 5 the crew of the Enterprise travels through time to find that the world-peace enjoyed in their day was inspired by of a bunch of Trekkies banding together to keep Star Trek on the air.

Re:Misapproriated Funds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607640)

Ever bought a CD? Or a DVD? Or gone to the cinema? How dare you do that when you could donate that money to charity instead?

We can save money (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607429)

By taping in my basement and wearing our homemade costumes! Live long and prosper.

Proposal doesn't go far enough (4, Interesting)

IO ERROR (128968) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607430)

Actually I really like this idea. And I'd like it even more if they took it one step farther and arranged for the fans to pay the distribution costs, so they could run commercial-free. And, just to make it even juicier, a few more bucks for another 15 minutes of show. With the commercials stripped out, it's going to come out to about 43 minutes. You can't easily fit that into a broadcast schedule, so let's make the show 58 minutes. Hey, we're paying for it, right?

Yes, they really do run that many commercials in a "one hour" show.

Re:Proposal doesn't go far enough (4, Funny)

snorklewacker (836663) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607456)

How much extra would it cost to fire Berman?

Re:Proposal doesn't go far enough (1)

ari_j (90255) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607607)

I was thinking in terms of how much it would cost to hire a writing team that's actually seen an episode of the original series.

Re:Proposal doesn't go far enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607621)

Berman died, you insensitive clod.

Oh, that Berman... never mind.

Standard Setting (2, Insightful)

millahtime (710421) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607457)

What kind of standard could something like this set? Imagine if this caught on and they did it to popular shows such as the OC. Actors get inflated salaries and/or networks make even more $$$.

I hope this never happens for a show just because of the standard it would set.

Re:Standard Setting (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607519)

They won't pull enough money together to use the UPN executive bathroom.

Re:Standard Setting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607526)

Uh... I hope this DOES happen for a show just because of the standard it would set?

Seriously... what's wrong with commercial-free TV?

Re:Proposal doesn't go far enough (4, Insightful)

Gherald (682277) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607491)

The commercial-free distribution costs would be insane. It would be cheaper to mail a set of DVDs to each fan.

Let it die... (2, Insightful)

Folmer (827037) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607442)

And donate the money to Africa or asia. They need the money much more!

oh come on (1)

dknight (202308) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607464)

get over it already. people cant always give all their money to a charity.

Unless you've given away everything you have you cant really talk. I hope you dont own that computer you typed on, cause heck, the money spent on that could've probably fed a hungry family for a month.

Re:oh come on (1)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607490)

There's a huge difference between the cost of a PC and $80 million.

That's the kind of money that could make a real difference. And they're going to spend it on a TV show.

I mean, WTF???

Re:oh come on (1)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607508)

300 million people each with a PC is much larger than $80 million.

Re:oh come on (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607531)

Actually YES, there is a huge difference between one PC ($600) and a SMALL amount of money donated by each fan ($20 max)... What were you saying?

it's their money (2, Insightful)

dknight (202308) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607534)

they're free to do with it as they please. if I decided to spend 1 billion dollars and buy an island nation to rule like a king, that would be my business and noone else's.

that 80 million dollars isnt gonna come in $20,000 donations, I'd bet. Just lots of fans donating what they can. They think this cause is worthy. If there are enough of them who think so to make it happen, who says they are wrong?

Re:it's their money (1, Troll)

be-fan (61476) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607639)

Yes, they are free to do with their money as they please, and we're free to call them morons for it. Beyond that, ruling an island nation would be cool. This is just utterly moronic. I mean, I could pay people to repeatedly kick me in the nuts, but I'm not that stupid...

Can't? As in could not? As in unable to? (1)

Mr Guy (547690) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607538)

people cant always give all their money to a charity

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that any money donated over and above your cable bill for them to keep making a television show could safely have been spent on charity.

Re:Can't? As in could not? As in unable to? (1)

dknight (202308) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607569)

I pay extra for higher speed internet access than basic service. Should I not have done that and donated the extra $15/month to charity?

Let's keep going.

I want to buy a corvette. Is that wrong, because I could have just bought a honda civic and donated the rest of the money to charity?

the hell with that. It's my money to spend as I see fit.

Re:Let it die... (2, Insightful)

octal666 (668007) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607592)

it's not charity, it's paying for the production costs of a show they want to see, they are buying the show. The thing is, are they going to share the profit?

Re:Let it die... (2, Interesting)

jxyama (821091) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607636)

flamebait alert: why didn't you donate your /. subscription to the needy then?

charity should be voluntary. and those who are charitable should not use that to make snide comments about those who are not.

Slashdot spelling check ;-) (0, Offtopic)

xmas2003 (739875) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607444)

Are there actually any spelling checks of the quoted submissions by the /. editors? And should they start off doing that?

Re:Slashdot spelling check ;-) (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607500)

According to one recent source, Slashdot editors are paid approximately $28K. I suppose OSTG gets what it pays for. You'll note NewsForge stories tend to have far more professionalism, for example.

Currency (5, Funny)

Lev13than (581686) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607447)

The main stumbling block, of course, is securing a suitable source of gold-pressed latinum.

yeah, i believe it (2, Insightful)

Naikrovek (667) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607455)

people will do ANYTHING to avoid the realities of life and substitute in fictional realities these days, it seems.

the only tv shows that ever have or ever will make me surrender money are on PBS.

Re:yeah, i believe it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607573)

So you criticize the fans while saying you would give money to shit like PBS? That's stupid!

If they want to pay for it... (1)

skermit (451840) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607458)

Let them. I along with so many die hard Star Trek fans have alreaedy written it off as the child that never was. But if they want to support it in full, I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to. What boggles the mind is nobody's talked about cancelling Andromeda yet, which was my favorite show up until these past 2 seasons.

Currency conversion (-1, Redundant)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607466)

How many strips of gold pressed latinum is this going to cost me?

I look at it this way... (5, Insightful)

Faust7 (314817) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607467)

Star Trek has been kept running on the popularity of the mythos, of the franchise. It has always been self-sustaining, through its own quality. If a Star Trek show is in such a bad state that it needs to rely on fan charity to survive... it isn't worth keeping.

Re:I look at it this way... (2, Insightful)

harks (534599) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607600)

To the contrary, I'd say that any show that could survive on donations from fans is the most worth keeping.

already paying for cable... (4, Interesting)

Zed2K (313037) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607469)

I'm already paying to receive my tv feeds. If I pay for just a show I better receive all rights of ownership for that show. I also better get all dvd right as well as rebroadcast rights.

Re:already paying for cable... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607574)

If I pay for just a show I better receive all rights of ownership for that show.

Unless you're a multi-millionaire, I think that you're vastly overestimating the value of the amount you're gonna be sending. $15.00 doesn't buy much.

Hmmm (4, Interesting)

rscrawford (311046) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607470)

If this works out, then would the fans have more say over the direction of the show? Open source Star Trek?

Re:Hmmm (1)

PriceIke (751512) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607513)

Mod poster insightful, please.

I know for sure if I were fronting the money for something, I sure as hell would want some voice in how it was used. Firing Berman would be a good start. Maybe the fan-contributed money could be used to pay the salary of someone with a better handle on science fiction.

And yes, Battlestar Galactica is the best sci-fi on TV today.

Re:Hmmm (1)

LinuxMacWin (79859) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607605)

Maybe GNU/Star Trek

important (-1, Troll)

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i seriously doubt this is true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607478)

to raise 80 million dollars, 4million people would need to donate 20 bucks. im not willing to donate 20 bucks to keep enterprise on the air, are you?

Worse than that (1)

marcop (205587) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607545)

You assume there are 4 million fans. If you count only fans then each they would have to donate closer to something like $40 million.

gotta quote Shatner here... (2, Funny)

holden caufield (111364) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607479)

GET A LIFE!

PBS? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607481)

Enterprise has actuly snowballed into a project that no one has ever attempted before, that of getting fans to pay for the production costs of a tv series.
I guess they've never heard of PBS.

Let it go. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607487)

This is quite possibly the saddest thing I have ever heard. Let it go.

Paying for Enterprise (2, Funny)

renderhead (206057) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607488)

I thought about paying for Enterprise, but in the end I decided to download Fedora Core for free.

*ducks*

Never? (4, Interesting)

dorward (129628) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607489)

a project that no one has ever attempted before

Didn't somebody try the same for Farscape?

Re:Never? (1, Funny)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607544)

Hell, isn't this just the business model for HBO/Showtime/Skinemax and PBS?

RE: FARSCAPE (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607586)

Yes, the farscapers tried something like this, they didn't get enough for an entire episode but they did get alot of money for donations to military librarys, and ads, and other stuff...

www.savefarscape.com

Never going to happen (5, Funny)

EvilGoodGuy (811015) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607493)

There is no way both fans have that kind of money.

Re:Never going to happen (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607595)

I don't know... you save a lot on rent and groceries when living in your parents' basement.

Re:Never going to happen (1)

N0decam (630188) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607596)

They don't both have to have that kind of money - just one of them does...

Farscape (1)

BaseLineNL (822690) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607504)

Farscape fans also tried to do this, but it didn't work...at first. Then suddenly some European "backers" appeared and the miniseries "Peacekeeper Wars" was a fact. This could definitely work one way or the other.

In soviet russia (1)

bryan986 (833912) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607506)

Enterprise pays fans to watch

Battlescar Galactica is not good. (0, Offtopic)

Name Anonymous (850635) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607507)

Anyone who thinks the new Battlescar Galactica is good has been watching way too much trash. It has lousy cinematography - the image always seems to be bouncing. And the actors - well lets just say I think it's being polite to call some of them actors.

They expect to raise 50-80 Million? (5, Insightful)

solowCX (796423) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607509)

After 9/11 when Amazon starting taking donations they only made $6.8 million dollars, and that was a big thing where over 170,000 people donated. They expect Trekkies to pay more just for a show?

Re:They expect to raise 50-80 Million? (1)

Name Anonymous (850635) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607552)

Some trekkies are obsesive and they they'd donate their soap and shampoo money for this.

IPO or Bonds to take it to syndication (4, Interesting)

MBraynard (653724) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607517)

ST:TNG did so well because it was syndicated rather than being on a 2nd tier network. If Paramount would allow the fifth season to be sold and syndicated, an IPO or corporate bond sale would be an ideal way to raise the funds. The profit would come from advertising for that year.

On the operational side, a good comparison might be that show with McGiever going into the portal to fight minorities on other planets (can't recall the name). It started as a movie, then it was on one of those extra-pay pr0n channels, then it got to sci-fi channel. And somewhere along the way it might have also been showing new episodes through syndication.

guess what (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607521)

i hate you guys

Investors, ownership and a legal bunfight? (3, Insightful)

mauledbydogs (853179) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607524)

In the unlikely situation that the money is raised - an individual, or registered organisation that represents the fund would have to enter into a contract with Paramount. At this point they become an investor in the franchise and its development. What happens if Paramount fail to produce the show? Legal action? What also happens to the advertising and syndication revenue? Are people investing purely to finance a vehicle that will make the franchise owner money - or would they seek to recoup their investment? That's just the beginning. I can't see Paramount taking cash from the fans in this way.

Sad! Man this is Sad! (1, Insightful)

Capt_Troy (60831) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607529)

I find it very sad that people are willing to pay (or even contemplate paying) this much money in order to experience one mediocre hour of TV a week, rather than dontate their money to good causes like cancer research or some other deserving charity.

Good god people, what's this world coming too? Way to let "The Man" know how much of our soles he ownes!

If they come up with the 50-80 million dollars. I'm gonna cry.

But if I pay for the show... (1)

octal666 (668007) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607536)

are they going to share the profit of the tv and the dvd sales afterwards?

I mean, this would mean a lot for the production of films and tv series, it means cooperativism, but a tv show isn't a charity fund, who is going to earn the bucks?

wow that's sad (0)

gelfling (6534) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607540)

people on fark even make fun of you.

Let it die (1)

VAXGeek (3443) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607542)

Here's a better idea, why don't they take that money and donate towards the invention of the warp drive or the teleporter? Enterprise had some of the lowest ratings on TV. It got there for a reason: Star Trek needs a break from TV. Maybe after a few years off the air it can come back with some fresh ideas.

Model for Post Bittorrent world..... (5, Interesting)

Danathar (267989) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607543)

I have an idea....Seriously..

If Paramount would provide a Bittorrent of the Show WITH the commercials on the site AND make sure the quality of the video is as good or better than what can be gotten off of bittorrent web sites, they might be able to get people to watch.

Here is how it would work. You make it freely available but make users go through a page that informs them that by getting the video from an offical Paramount site they (Paramount) can prove to their advertizers that people are watching the show with ads (arguably...how do you know if people are ACTUALLY watching them...but then they don't know if nielson watchers actually watch the ads either).

By publicly advertizing that if people want to support the show they can download it from the their torrent (or web link) would provide an incen tive for people to get it from them instead of off of some offshore web torrent site.

They could update the commercials evey now and then if they wanted.

The KEY though is that the video HAS to be better than what is being distributed right now! If what is on tvtorrent or tvswarm is XVID HDTV 5.1 surround then they need to match or exceed it.

Fans of the show could then DIRECTLY support the show. People who get the non-advertzing version off of some peer to peer network are people who don't give a rats ass about the show making it anyhow.....but give people a way to pay (without money) and they'll take it (My theory of course!)

Re:Model for Post Bittorrent world..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607602)

???

People who can afford the bandwidth to download high quality videos most likely have cable tv already and don't need to pay more to watch the show

I can help (1)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607547)

I've got a real cool home-made Andorian mask made of papier mache and cut-up rubber snakes. I'll wear it for free. Also have a lot of blue spray-paint bought at Wal-Mart.

Why not go back into syndication? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607550)

It worked fine for TNG & DS9. Until they wrote in the whole Borg scenario, wasnt Voyager in danger of being canceled by UPN?

Sci-Fi doesnt hold well on Network TV, there are only a few rare examples of longevity, while syndication allows craptastic scifi shows to have a very long life.

Skimming (1)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607556)


Including lawyers you say? I wonder what percentage of that 80 mil will go to them...

In the meantime, if you want to take drastic actions to save Star Trek, there's only one thing you can do: Snuff out Rick Berman. He's the talentless hack in charge, Star Trek will keep on sucking as long as he's involved.

I'm willing to pay what this show is worth (1)

Cro Magnon (467622) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607560)

*checks pockets for pennies*

Very "Free Market" Thinking (1)

NetStryder (315955) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607562)

This is the way everything should work. This could kick off a ne wave of Supply and Demand that may eventually change the course of television. Imagine a time in the not too distant future where the only shows that air are the ones worthy of continuing to exist based upon the merits of writing and performing. A brave new world ;-)

Lottery (2, Insightful)

Bender0x7D1 (536254) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607567)

Why not have a lottery? Each "ticket" costs US$20 and if enough money is raised, 3 winners are selected for roles on Enterprise. If enough money isn't raised to save the show the money is transfered to Amazon, (or other online retailer), and each ticket becomes a US$20 gift card.

Now there is a "carrot" for those who want to donate and a way out if enough money isn't raised.

galactica (1)

prurientknave (820507) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607579)

Battlestar Galactica was the best sci-fi show when it first aired all those years ago, I for switched to the trek series only because galactica stopped airing.
These fanatics are funding a creative endeavor instead of blowing crap up or actively hindering science. Finally, a positive spin on the word fanatic.

Why isn't more TV like this? (4, Interesting)

raygundan (16760) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607580)

Say what you want about the quality of Enterprise-- I'm more interested in the idea of fans buying their shows directly. Sign me up.

Screw ads, screw broadcast, screw the networks/middlemen/etc... let me buy my shows directly from the people who make them! Even just releasing everything to DVD immediately after it airs would be good enough for me-- if I wasn't paying for DirecTV, I'd have a nice monthly budget for buying just the shows I like on DVD or via download.

As it is, I'm paying for a lot of channels I never watch, PLUS watching ads, just to get the handful of shows I enjoy. The system could be a thousand times better if "broadcasters" and "channels" went the way of the dodo and left us buying our shows directly from the people who make them.

Stock (1)

Easy2RememberNick (179395) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607583)

Can't you buy stocks in movies now, if so why not a TV show? If people like it they'll pay for it. It would make more sense than some stocks out there, you'd get a lot more enjoyment out of watching Jolene Blalock than 100 shares of GM.

This is not a flame. (1)

tod_miller (792541) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607590)

Th eonly episode I ever saw was two bad actors in a shuttle, running out of oxygen because a tiny tiny black hole pierced a hole in thier hull, which they used some poncy stupid cheesey spread to fix it...

It was the worst thing I have ever seen in my life, I had to shave my cornea just to feel clean again.

This is not a flame, I admit to only seeing about 5% of one episode, but it was so bad that I couldn't watch anymore, I didn't even see the quantum leap dude, and no matter how much quantum leap PWNED I do not want to see this.

Man, this sounds like the last ditch effort to save eldorado [tvtome.com] ! :-)

Why the obsession? Bring back roland rat, I say.

*me realises that slating ST or SW is a complete beg for a -tan(90) mod, and about 50 thousand accounts adding me to thier enemy lists...*

Give me a holographic doctor and a nypho borg *ANYDAY*. (not in the same context *cough*)

Screw Enterprise...bring back Firefly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607594)

I'll happily put my money down on that show (about to order my fourth DVD set for extended family). Far superior acting and writing.

3,000,000 producers? (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607599)

$35,200,000 divided by 3,000,000 viewers is $11.74 each.

That's alot of executive producers, even by today's standards.

I also wonder what the IP status of these Enterprise episodes would be. Perhaps they should be GPL'd. (ha ha only serious)

wtf? (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11607601)

"...a project that no one has ever attempted before"
Ever heard of public TV? PBS? BBC? Anyone? Hello?

Slashdot revolt! (1)

Reignking (832642) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607603)

When a majority of Slashdot posters are making fun of some Star Trek fans, you know that this is crazy idea :)

Firefly! (0)

Erestar (81340) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607604)

CmdrTaco was right on with Firefly. Screw this Enterprise crap!

I think that Firefly got cancelled was the biggest mistake that TV has ever made. Well, almost... http://abc.go.com/primetime/accordingtojim/ [go.com]

Eh, maybe after the movie comes out there'll be more interest.

Re:Firefly! (1)

bhima (46039) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607622)

Yeah, I would have done too, If every 10 minutes a spot came saying what assholes TV execs are

Best sci-fi? (0)

BigHungryJoe (737554) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607608)

Battlestar Galactica might be the best SciFi airing right now.

Taco the blasphemer! Repeat after me Stargate: Atlantis.

This is great (1)

phyruxus (72649) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607615)

They figured ~$12 per viewer with 3M viewers.. you gotta presume that not everyone will donate, but still, even at 3x that it's very affordable. We're talking tens of dollars not hundreds.

I think they'd have a better shot of getting all the money if they set up something so that you can charge the donation to your credit or debit, and if they don't make the funding goal, everyone gets their money back. If that was an option I'd give them $100.

Maybe they could even get some kind of deal with the studio, 60/40 or something.

Gotta say, imho, Enterprise isn't as good as TNG, but it's on par with DS9, and way better than Voyager.

It won't work (1)

Aggrazel (13616) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607620)

This tactic won't work and people are wasting their money.

However, if you send money to me, it still won't work, but it will make me feel better.

So my suggestion, send the money to me, its the right thing to do.

What about donating CPU cycles to a CGI version? (1)

G4from128k (686170) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607623)

Fans may not be able to muster the xx million for a physical production of the show, but what about a lower-cost CGI version? Fans could contribute CPU cycles for rendering the show. And some fans could even help in creating episodes by creating 3-D models of the show's set, working on animation sequences, aiding in editing, etc.

sooooo-for-firefly (1)

maiki (857449) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607627)

well instead of trying to pay for an entire season of firefly, just make sure you go to the movie "Serenity" coming out in... September and then buy lots of posters and tshirts and lunchpails and mini-jayne plastic figurines!

what a waste of money (0, Flamebait)

Emugamer (143719) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607634)

I gotta say that Enterprise has been better this season, but I feel like it's still only mediocre. Battlestar Galactica might be the best SciFi airing right now. And I woulda chipped in for more Firefly in a heartbeat


I agree with CmdrTaco.....

You know how hard that is to say with a straight face?

Okay I mean, I don't care if Enterprise is doing better so far, last season was an absolute waste of time in my book, I can't believe they wasted a whole season not working on forming the federation. there are so so many interesting things to talk about and talking about some of the issues that they are coming up with in this season but they still spend to much time on fluff episodes.

and BattleStar Galactica? Its is THE BEST! it has the story arc possibilities of RMS's Babylon 5, with a much better cast, and I believe a lot more moxy and touches on more human issues. And I like the way they have put it together so far, I actually have started staying up on Friday to watch Galactica when I get home, even if it keeps me up to 4 AM

I guess Spock was wrong... (1)

William_Lee (834197) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607635)

Nerds clearly dictate that the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many...

More Bang For The Buck (1)

White Roses (211207) | more than 9 years ago | (#11607638)

How about putting together a more modest sum, say, $100,000, and giving it to these guys [mac.com] , and then donating the rest to something like tsunami relief [icrc.org] or something. Yeah, I love Trek, too. But (a) even if they make enough to fund another season, Berman and Braga still have the helm and (b) Paramount still gets the revenue, I'm sure, since they wouls still own the franchise.
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