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Google Fires Blogger?

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the lotsa-submissions-on-this-one dept.

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Thomas Hawk writes "CNET is reporting that Mark Jen, a blogger whose candid comments about life on the job at Google sparked controversy last month, has left the company. CNET reports that it is not clear if he resigned or was fired but references a post at Google Blogoscoped where it was suggested that he may have been fired over his blog Ninetyninezeros. Given Google's push into the blogging space with their recent acquisition of Blogger it might be interesting to see how this shakes out."

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Next week on Bloggerly Hills 90.2.1.0 (5, Funny)

JPelorat (5320) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617811)

Oh, the drama!

Re:Next week on Bloggerly Hills 90.2.1.0 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617863)

Maybe kids these days will learn that you can't just shoot off your mouth without consequences? Damn brats -- their parents took their backtalk, and now they explode into the workforce and are in for a rude awakening. HAHAHAHAHAHAA!

This is not a troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617871)

It's clever and funny. I hope there's a portable spinoff called Melrose Pla CE.

Re:This is not a troll (1)

shreevatsa (845645) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618023)

What's even more funny is that your post seemed to work. After being kindly informed by you that this is not a troll, they changed the score from -1 troll to +5 funny. Thanks.

Good (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617816)

He was stupid, and Google doesn't employ stupid people.

Hey, maybe if more people were fired for blogging, it would bring it to an end?

Mark my words... (0, Troll)

Leffe (686621) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617821)

... this will be the last day Google is considered a Good company on Slashdot.

Re:Mark my words... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617839)

I agree. I read all the links and transcripts. I couldn't point to any thing the should have resulted in a firing.

Re:Mark my words... (4, Insightful)

leonmergen (807379) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617855)

I agree. I read all the links and transcripts. I couldn't point to any thing the should have resulted in a firing.

Thank god it isn't even certain that Google fired him for this reason... fud fud fud

Re:Mark my words... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11618043)

Thank god it isn't even certain that Google fired him for this reason... fud fud fud

I have to agree that you're correct. If google fired him for reason other than bloging then we cant say anything about it.

However, you don't fire anyone after a month or two just because you don't like them. You fire someone that brings a gun to work immediately or someone that divulges corporate secrets get the boot today. I have to think that the blogging is the culprit - I just want to read what was so bad; which I couldn't read anything bad other than he was keeping his chin up adapting to stress from a new job.

Boo friggin hoo (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617899)

Would people be upset if he broke other rules and got fired?

"Well, he didn't like wearing pants. Doesn't Google know that some people just like to let it all hang out? What's wrong with some balls?"

Re:Mark my words... (5, Insightful)

badasscat (563442) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617912)

... this will be the last day Google is considered a Good company on Slashdot.

I tend to agree, though apparently this guy a) had more than 400 complaints from within the company to Google's HR department asking that he be removed, and b) was obviously a complete idiot in the things he posted about in his blog.

Just because we all have the ability to post anything we want anywhere we want doesn't mean we should. You're free to say whatever you want in the United States but a company is not obligated to keep you under hire if you become a disruptive influence or publicly reveal trade secrets. It has nothing to do with whether he signed an NDA or not; it comes down to common sense.

I don't know exactly why he was fired but it should not be a surprise to anybody, including him. And I don't think this is a free speech issue; this is more of a lesson in learning when and where it is and isn't appropriate to say certain things, which is something that has been lost on the internet generation. Nobody can put you in jail for complaining about your company, but your company is not obliged to keep paying you for the privilege.

Re:Mark my words... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11618048)

Where did you get the number of complaints being 400? I can't find the quantity mentioned anywhere online?

I TOLD you google suck (0, Troll)

essreenim (647659) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617920)

I never considered them a good company for the last 2+ years, especially since they floated. I heard they are f$@%ers. It reminds me of Atari. They start off loved by all. Then they grow and get swallowed up by all the shitters that care nothing for IT,, they're just trying to turn google into a cha-ching $$$ band wagon.

I recently applied for a job with them but I will happily milk them for a few months and then fly off,

Re:I TOLD you google suck (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617944)

On the off chance they decided to employ you, don't you think this post was a mistake? They can use Google, you know.

Re:Mark my words... (4, Insightful)

m50d (797211) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617940)

Nonsense. That should have happened when they DCMA'd someone for offering RSS feeds of google news. Google is like Apple, whatever they do slashdot will love them.

Re:Mark my words... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617965)

DCMA? They didn't use the DCMA. They said "You're violating the terms of service for Google News. Stop."

Re:Mark my words... (-1, Offtopic)

FecesFlingingRhesus (806117) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617981)



And it's about damned time. I have been telling people that they are evil for years. You ever see those movies where the preacher is all holier than holy. And then by the end he is Satan and he has lead everyone to their doom. Thats Google they act too nice to be good they are surly covering up something. Besides they remind me of a corporate Heavens Gate all new age and stuff. I wonder who they want to ride the comet?

Re:Mark my words... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617982)

It seems the blog detailed some of Google's business methods, etc, something that no company would really like to get out in the wild.

Speaking about stuff at the pub is one thing, but blogs are online and therefore it is documented commentary. If you want to talk about work in more than generic detail in a blog, at least make it friends-only or personal. I suppose it is something that people will have to deal with in the future when working. However there has to be some freedom from the employer regarding things like this.

I guess there is a vacancy at Google then?

Re:Mark my words... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11618030)

Or maybe the time for people to understand that blogging stories of you life inside the company isn't worth doing. Why would you waste your time doing this anyway? Don't you have a life outside work?

Re:Mark my words... (1)

xbrownx (459399) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618119)

How could a company NOT fire someone who had been there for weeks (singular?) who is bad-mouthing the company online, especially once the story made CNN?

It would have harmed Google far more to keep him employed.

or it might not be interesting. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617834)

hello? what the heck is this? what candid comments? this story doesn't seem slashdot-important.

Oh man (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617838)

this is gonna drive livejournal Bananas! [xdfgf.com]

Whatever? (1)

shreevatsa (845645) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617840)

Whatever happened to "DO no evil"?

Re:Whatever? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617991)

Have you been living under a rock? It was auctioned off last year. Went for a couple billion dollars IIRC.

Re:Whatever? (1, Interesting)

pmc (40532) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618025)

Ah - "Do no evil". Sounds so simple, doesn't it? But Evil, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. And in this case, the beholden.

When Google was small "do no evil" probably meant the same to the company as it did to you and me. But now it is grown the nature of evil (as perceived by the company) has changed. It was "do nothing that will alienate the user". Now it is "Do nothing that will upset the bottom line". Evil is making less money than you could. Evil is anything that could disrupt your plans (whatever they are, because the plans are secret. disclosure would, of course, be evil.)

What evil? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11618052)

Firing idiots is no more evil than you taking aspirin for a headache.

Re:Whatever? (2, Insightful)

mOoZik (698544) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618109)

Firing a harmful employee is evil now? Are some people on Slashdot ALWAYS going to side with individuals?

Blog link (5, Informative)

Jadsky (304239) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617849)

How about a link to the actual blog [blogspot.com]? It's still up...

Re:Blog link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617895)

....perhaps because it hasn't been updated since January 27th and is irrelevant? (Yes, I know that doesn't usually stop Slashdot editors, but maybe they are trying something new this week.)

Re:Blog link (3, Insightful)

DrWho520 (655973) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617924)

An interesting fact:

Said user only started at Google on 17 Jan 05. Under a month and out the door. Just thought I would point it out. Jump to your own conclusions.

Re:Blog link (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11618058)

This guy got 400 complaints from other Google staff in 2 weeks?

Not surprising he left/was fired. A company has to consider the best thing for the company as a whole. I guess he'd already had a warning regarding the blog (and he had put sensitive stuff up, as it mentions that he had!) but his position was untenable. Failed to last even the initial probationary period. I guess he won't be putting Google on his resumé.

Re:Blog link (1)

harryk (17509) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617933)

Yes, its still up, but to say that its current, well, thats a reach. It hasn't been updated since January 27th.

Granted thats not an age or anything, and it appears as he was moving in his last post, I'd like to see an update from him on the real scoop. Based on his writings, he appeared to like the job quite well.

harryk

Re:Blog link (1)

foobsr (693224) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618054)

Quote:"wow, the past day has been pretty interesting. lots of activity and some lessons learned as well.

i suppose the biggest lesson was how fast information travels nowadays."


Not much to add. I wonder if I really did read this article about the sophisticated recruitment procedures at Google(tm).

CC.

dumb editor comments, again (4, Insightful)

wobblie (191824) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617860)

Given Google's push into the blogging space with their recent acquisition of Blogger it might be interesting to see how this shakes out.

Why? What does that have to do with anything?

If a blogger gets sacked... (3, Insightful)

nagora (177841) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617866)

...in the blogosphere, does anyone care? The answer to this ancient riddle is: Who cares?

Not employing bloggers at all seems a fair enough policy to me. Why pay someone to sit all day and think of "witty" things to write to other wasters?

TWW

Re:If a blogger gets sacked... (4, Insightful)

FirienFirien (857374) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617911)

...like the people who post comments on slashdot from work, with an intent to be Funny ;)

Probable Cause (0)

sammykrupa (828537) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617868)

It would only be right of Google firing tis guy if he broke his MBA of something. Otherwise Google made a big mistake!

Re:Probable Cause (1)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617908)

MBA? Or NDA?

Which one?

Can you break a MBA?

Of course! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617966)


Can you break a MBA?

Of course you can. You just need a big cluestick.

Re:Probable Cause (3, Funny)

PornMaster (749461) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617990)

If you can break the NHL, I'm sure you can break the NBA... which by virtue of being only one letter off is practically the same thing as an MBA and two letters off an NDA, so can't you see how it's all connected?

If not, can you grab me a venti caramel macchiato from Starbucks when you go for a walk to clear your head?

Re:Probable Cause (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11618081)

He'd have been in a probationary period as a new employee, and the company would have had the right to remove him if they didn't want him because he didn't measure up.

Clearly his attitude to work and complaints from other workers meant he had to leave.

Hmmm (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617870)

Man criticises employer in public.
Employer fires man.

This is fascinating ... why, exactly?

Re:Hmmm (4, Insightful)

Sophrosyne (630428) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617897)

because everyone wants to work for Google-- it's like someone won the geek lottery then ripped up the ticket.

Re:Hmmm (4, Insightful)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617943)

Man criticises employer in public.
Employer fires man.

This is fascinating ... why, exactly?


Because the masses expect freedom of speech and opinion, but the people in power don't like to grant it.

To a lot of people, this is like an alarm going off. But to a lot of cynics, this is just run-of-the-mill stuff that's expected to happen regularly.

Re:Hmmm (1)

gowen (141411) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618018)

the masses expect freedom of speech and opinion,
The masses do not expect the right to release sensitive information onto the internet. And the First Amendment says nothing about your employer's right to fire your ass if you badmouth them. Check your employment contract, if you don't believe me. You absolutely have the right to diss Google. And they absolutely have the right to fire you.
but the people in power don't like to grant it.
Google are not the people in power. They're a search engine company, silly.

Re:Hmmm (1)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618080)

I thought I didn't need to specify this, but here ya go:

People aren't always well-informed. Which is why I answered the AC great-grand-parent the way I did.

Also, Google has the power of employment over their employees.

Re:Hmmm (2, Insightful)

Paul8069 (732650) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618034)

This is not about the employer not granting an employee's right to free speech, it is about the employer using their right to free speech.
In this instance, they're free to say, "You're fired."
(Assuming that this guy was fired, but this example applies in more situations than this).

He had a chance, he apparently blew it. (4, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617874)

Don't piss off your employer or when it's time for people to go you're the first one. I worked with a woman who was quite vocal at work about how she hated her job and she was looking for another and blah blah blah.

I was only there 6 months when the layoffs came up and she got the slip and I didn't. She flew off the handle that I should have went before she did. She didn't appreciate it when I mentioned she probably shouldn't have been so vocal about how she didn't like her job.

hi everyone, sorry my site has been down for the past day or so. i goofed and put some stuff up on my blog that's not supposed to be there. nothing serious and they didn't ask me to take anything down (even the stuff where i'm critical about the company). i'm learning that google is understandably careful about disclosing sensitive information, even vague financial-related things. the quickest way for me to fix the situation at the time was to take it all down. now i'm back up. just so you know, google was pretty cool about all this. thanks for and sorry for the frenzy of speculation.

It's obvious that Google had been aware of this guy's blog and while they didn't ask him to take anything down and they didn't ask him to stop he should have seen the writing on the wall and kept it down. He had a choice and he decided to bring it back up, but I am not about to speculate what would have happened if he hadn't.

Keep your opinions about work to yourself. If you don't like your job don't work there anymore. If you can't find a new job keep your mouth shut (to the Internet as well especially when you work for a firm full of Internet connected people that run THE search engine) until you do.

Just do your job and go home. Personally, I don't want to hear about anyone's work life outside of work and I certainly wouldn't want to describe mine to anyone else in my free time. Free time is exactly that. Time away from work!

vague financial-related things (5, Interesting)

brlewis (214632) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617974)

Google may have had no chance but to fire this guy. The SEC is very strict about any kind of financial information employees share. Even a vague summary of an internal financial presentation posted to a blog could mean trouble. Any appearance of Google trying to talk up its stock through underhanded means would be investigated.

Re:He had a chance, he apparently blew it. (5, Insightful)

Scorpius-nl (827901) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618114)

Ok, think i'll take this this flamebait.

You know what happens if people shut up and just do their work and never tell to the outside what is going on? Especially in large companies it eventually creates an atmosphere of repression, and the feeling in the back of your head that you need to be carefull with what you say.

It also creates a sense of false truths, as the cnet article says, a microsoft employee taking pictures of apple computers being unloaded is fired, creating the impression that at microsoft only windows is used.

Eventually the company will have lost touch with reality, because the employees don't speak their mouth, creating for example a company like microsoft. I know speaking to the outside world is something different, but it's the beginning.

And like a fellow slashdotter once said, google is just a company, primarily aimed at making profit, that it's primary objective. All the "cool" google things are invented because they make a very nice profit.

Unreasonable? (0)

LadyMayhem (720913) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617882)

More than just firing the person events like this make me wonder what the company is trying to hide. Does anyone have any idea what the personw as posting?

One of the inconveniences.... (4, Insightful)

halivar (535827) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617885)

...of the professional world (damn these short comment titles!) is that you become a representative (somewhat) even on your own time. That means you respect the company's privacy and keep internal matters internal.

It's kind of like a family member airing all you dirty laundry. Do they have a right to be upset about your idiosynchrosies? Maybe, probably. Should they be telling the whole world about it? No... I think loyalty should be a driving factor here.

That said, I would have hoped that Google would be more lenient than this (assuming he was fired). But now they have public investors to think of, and they have to act more like a corporation than perhaps they have in the past. Sometimes that means tough love for employees who forget their first task is to make money for the company.

Re:One of the inconveniences.... (1)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618065)

Given the utter denseness of this guy and his total inability to take a hint, I can see where Google might consider him an unacceptable liability going forward, on top of what he's already done.

Re:One of the inconveniences.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11618096)

Also, he used to work for Microsoft... draw your own conclusions.

just another reason... (1)

musikit (716987) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617886)

to keep anything you think or do outside of work secret to your employeer.

you have me from 9am-5pm you may fill me with opinions or ask my opinion however once my clock reads 5 i STFU and get the hell out.

Re:just another reason... (1)

sisukapalli1 (471175) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617946)

to keep anything you think or do outside of work secret to your employeer.

But... he has been writing about the company. It is a very thin line between writing about life inside a company and inadvertently disclosing stuff that the company thinks should remain inside the company.

Examples from the blog include the number of Stanford/MIT project managers, and so on. None of anyone else's business but Google's, and it should stay that way.

S

Left the Company? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617894)

Since when does leaving the company equate to being fired?

Maybe he deserved it... (2, Interesting)

tyresyas (826753) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617904)

It's my experience that many of the people that bitch the most about their job are the ones that deserve to get fired the most, anyway. C'mon, there's is always that one whiney co-worker that you always ask, "Why is s/he even WORKING here?"

Re:Maybe he deserved it... (3, Insightful)

n1ywb (555767) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618129)

And other times they're hard workers that are justifiably frustrated by how fucked up their company is.

One major thing missing from this story... (3, Interesting)

Concern (819622) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617917)

...and all the comments that I've seen so far.

What did he actually write that made google unhappy?

Everything I've seen on his blog so far is pretty innocuous.

Quote (4, Informative)

Apreche (239272) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617918)

From the actual blog:
hi everyone, sorry my site has been down for the past day or so. i goofed and put some stuff up on my blog that's not supposed to be there. nothing serious and they didn't ask me to take anything down (even the stuff where i'm critical about the company). i'm learning that google is understandably careful about disclosing sensitive information, even vague financial-related things. the quickest way for me to fix the situation at the time was to take it all down. now i'm back up. just so you know, google was pretty cool about all this. thanks for and sorry for the frenzy of speculation.


Apparently this wasn't an issue of someone talking about their life at google, or their day-to-day tirals and tribulations on the job. This was someone releasing sensitive NDA information onto the net. While I don't like NDAs as much as the next guy its a pretty obvious breach of contract and an OK reason for firing. For everyone getting ready to start hating the last giant non-evil corp left, you're going to have to wait a few more weeks.

"Good" "Bad" "Moron" (5, Insightful)

MosesJones (55544) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617932)


I've got some Karma to burn so I'm going to say this anyway.

For all the muppets who will respond about Google being a "bad" company, and how they were "good". FIRING PEOPLE HAPPENS, and sometimes ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. If one person is dragging down the morale of everyone else, should that be allowed to continue ? If one person is damaging the companies reputation, should that be allowed to continue ?

Firing people is something that happens. And it doesn't make companies "bad" or "good". In fact companies ARE NEVER bad or good its the PEOPLE in them that make bad or good decisions. Reference Microsoft, it was the will of a group of people to act as a monopoly and abuse that position.

For anyone who thinks about "Good" and "Bad" in a George Bush style way when looking at any part of the world, whether business or politics. GET OUTSIDE and see the shades, subscribe to the economist, read the Wall Street Journal, become a member of Green Peace and Amnesty International, but don't wear Rose Tinted specs and moan because ONE person got fired.

Google has ALWAYS been protective, and ALWAYS done some "odd" things. There is no tipping point of bad to good, the world is not as simple as "Whitehouse Politics 101".

Re:"Good" "Bad" "Moron" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617985)

Ok, ok, Carly. Calm down...

Re:"Good" "Bad" "Moron" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11617995)

For anyone who thinks about "Good" and "Bad" in a George Bush style way when looking at any part of the world, whether business or politics. GET OUTSIDE and see the shades...

Of course your Bush comment violates your own rule.

Re:"Good" "Bad" "Moron" (5, Insightful)

mks113 (208282) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618047)

Sometimes the worst thing a company can do is keep someone employed who is casuing problems for the company.

The ability to get rid of troublemakers and deadbeats is an indication that management is in control and willing to make things happen.

Problem with time perspective... (4, Insightful)

PornMaster (749461) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617936)

Given Google's push into the blogging space with their recent acquisition of Blogger it might be interesting to see how this shakes out.

They bought Pyra in 2003. It's now 2005. This guy worked there for one month. I think your sense of perspective is a little out of whack.

More about the subject (5, Interesting)

mikkom (714956) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617938)

Quote from A Chat with Mark Jen [zawodny.com]:
First off, nothing Mark said surprised me. Yes, he was fired from Google. It was directly related to his blog. He was employed there for just a couple of weeks.
So the rumor is true.

Blog Damage Control (-1, Redundant)

Dagny Taggert (785517) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617950)

In his book "Blog", Hugh Hewitt mentions that corporations need to have a blog policy clearly stated so there is no grey area with regard to what an employee can and can not say about the company on their personal blog. Of all companies, Google should've been ahead of the curve on this. It's never a good idea to throw dirt on your employer, but Google now has two problems to deal with: a possibly disgruntled former employee with large readership and a PR blackeye. No good will come of this.

Re:Blog Damage Control (4, Insightful)

danheskett (178529) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618029)

You assume that Google did not have a clearly state blog policy.

I start by assuming that since he got fired so quickly, without much messing around, that Google had a clear policy, he violated it, and he was terminated.

This is why anything related to work (3, Insightful)

hsmith (818216) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617957)

unless you own the company, keep your comments to yourself. Don't name your company directly or share secrets about the company. especially on an open forum where people can see. stupid, just stupid to do, i don't feel sorry about him at all. use your head people.

it's the last word syndrome... (2, Insightful)

jxyama (821091) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617975)

i thought about this a lot, since i started using online forums, including slashdot, and reading various blogs... traditionally, much "power" is given to those that can lash out the "last word" in any debate/argument/conversation. i'd like to call it the "last word syndrome."

journalists commanded much power (and editors, even more so) because printed articles are a one-way message. writers always got the last word. then came the online forums and even there, arguments turn into flamewars where every post is a repeat, but people keep on posting because they want to be the last one to put their point of view in.

blog is a hybrid. you post and others can comment, but those comments are not as visible. if you have a blog with decent audience, you do get to put out the "last words" for the most part, while allowing some feedback.

i can understand why management wouldn't like this. it's uncensored and they feel powerless because they don't have the control and they don't get to reply in the same way.

however, i don't understand the mentality of a new hire doing the best he can to appear "pompous, inconsiderate, disloyal" employee (to the management) by complaining openly to the world (but not directly to those at the company) via his blog. it's almost as if he wanted to challenge his perceived "right" to post about google on his blog...

How ironic... (5, Funny)

kzinti (9651) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617983)

A googol is ten to the one hundredth power, written as a one followed by one hundred zeros.

Ninety nine zeros, the name of the blog, is a googol minus one.

And now we have Google, minus one. One named "Mark".

Maybe it's just because I'm a former math geek, but I just love the way this worked out...

Re:How ironic... (1)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618117)

Excuse me, Professor Fermat. Google minus one is, uh....

[Before I embarass myself -- one hundred minus one is two nines, therefore google minus one is...]

...one hundred nines. Anyway, it certainly isn't ninety nine zeros, or anything else with zeros.

check your calculation (1)

mirko (198274) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618127)

ninety nine zeroes would be 0.....0,
which would be RIGHT(Googol, 99)
so the leading "10" would be missing.

In related Google News... (3, Interesting)

GillBates0 (664202) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617993)

...and since we must talk about Google everyday:

Google India launches Google India Code Jam 2005 [rediff.com] with a payoff of Rs. 3lakh (roughly enquivalent to $20k (my estimate after adjusting for cost of living and annual salaries)). This contest is also being organized by TopCoder.

The Google India News page also links to this news article [hindu.com] about Anurag Acharya, a graduate of the Indian Institute of Technlogy and the engineer behind Google Scholar [google.com]. Incidentally, Krishan Bharat [gatech.edu] the Principle Scientist at Google who created Google News [google.com] is also an IIT graduate.

Fired for bad grammer (5, Funny)

Neil Watson (60859) | more than 9 years ago | (#11617994)

Perhaps they fired him because of poor writing skills. I didn't see a sinlge capital letter on the whole page.

Re:Fired for bad grammer (5, Funny)

charlesbakerharris (623282) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618026)

Perhaps they fired him because of poor writing skills. I didn't see a sinlge capital letter on the whole page.

Yeah, I hate it when people don't capitalize... or can't spell. Grammer? Sinlge?

Re:Fired for bad grammer (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11618130)

You meant "a snigle capital letter," didn't you?

no. (1)

dAzED1 (33635) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618016)

"a blogger whose candid comments about life on the job at Google sparked controversy last month...Given Google's push into the blogging space with their recent acquisition of Blogger it might be interesting to see how this shakes out."

The two have nothing to do with each other. If a janitor was trash-talking google, would that make it interesting if they purchased a janitorial service? If he had made the same comments in a newspaper, or on fliers stuck to the walls of bathrooms, Google would probably have had the same reaction to him. That they are purchasing Blogger is completely irrelevent.

He Had it Coming (1)

tealover (187148) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618055)

I don't find anything he said to be too objectionable but looking at it from Google's perspective, his comments could have the effect of making them less competitive in attracting top-tier talent.

Let's face it, Google is positioning itself as the anti-Microsoft company. Most young, talented people are attracted by Google's image but for a lot of people, it really does come down to the all-mighty-dollar.

This guy didn't appear to be too socially adept (social outings seemed to bother him) so perhaps he wasn't aware of the impact of his comments. A shame, really.

Just cause (1)

markalot (67322) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618111)

Google is a publicly traded company. They can be sued or run afoul of regulations if information not intended for public consumption leaks. They hire some guy who withing days (or was it hours) of being employed starts talking about private matters on a public blog. He showed extremely poor judgement. What else would he let slip? Safe thing to do is show him the door.

Be More Careful (4, Insightful)

nnnneedles (216864) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618113)

If I had gotten a job at google, I would have been a lot more careful.

This guy first ditches microsoft, because they don't want to code with extreme programming methods (laughs), and then gets himself fired from Google. I'm sorry, but what a dumbass. He doesn't know how lucky he is..

In an ideal world (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11618118)

Anybody who "blogs" would be considered a societal outcast and not allowed to hold sharp instruments.

Blogging is just an oddity. Its like picking your nose and then being proud of finding boogers.

This kind of stuff has been going on for a while (1)

ltcraben (832737) | more than 9 years ago | (#11618124)

The eariliest event I'm aware of is: http://www.dooce.com/archives/daily/03_07_2004.htm l

Blog-martyrdom (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11618125)

What is it about being labeled a "blogger" that suddenly turns every "persecuted" mewling diarist into a martyr? This makes about as much sense as branding someone as a great novelist because his or her handwriting is neat and well-organized in a big fancy notebook. Yeah, I "blog." But I don't have any delusions about the waste of electrons I spew with each post. People once thought what they said on CB radio was pretty damned important, too. Come to think of it, blogging has a lot in common with CB radio. I bet it'll be just as fashionable in a few years. Like vacation slideshows.
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