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KOTOR 2 spoilers (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11661738)

Mandalore is Canderous.
Kreia is a Sith.
Atton used to be a Sith assassin.
You were exiled because the Jedi feared you could destroy the Force.
Atris is a Sith.
Kreia lures Darth Nihilous to Citadel Station for the penultimate fight.
After the penultimate fight, you travel to Malachor 5 where you fight Darth Sion and Kreia.
Revan disappeared because he realised there was a Sith Empire in the Outer Rim. At the end, you follow him.

Re:KOTOR 2 spoilers (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11662293)

Hold on a sec. Do you mean to tell me that:

Mandalore is Canderous.
Kreia is a Sith.
Atton used to be a Sith assassin.
You were exiled because the Jedi feared you could destroy the Force.
Atris is a Sith.
Kreia lures Darth Nihilous to Citadel Station for the penultimate fight.
After the penultimate fight, you travel to Malachor 5 where you fight Darth Sion and Kreia.
Revan disappeared because he realised there was a Sith Empire in the Outer Rim. At the end, you follow him.

That's amazing!

Re:KOTOR 2 spoilers (0, Troll)

SetupWeasel (54062) | more than 9 years ago | (#11664646)

Luke and Leia are SIBLINGS!

Their father is DARTH VADER!

Xilinx??? (2, Funny)

fdawg (22521) | more than 9 years ago | (#11661806)

I see an FPGA connected via ribbon cable to the DS. How the...

Im confused.

sweet (2, Insightful)

l33t m4st3r (672779) | more than 9 years ago | (#11661865)

very nice. how long do we have to wait until we can make games that use the touch screen??

Tetris is great (2, Interesting)

Pan T. Hose (707794) | more than 9 years ago | (#11661875)

I play it on a regular basis. Tetris, Pac Man, Tron, Xonix, Sokoban, Bourdel Dash, River Raid, Net Hack, they don't make games like this any more so it is essential to port them to new platforms so they don't get forgotten. Today sex and blood is all kids want, no wonder that the society slowly turns into a sociopathic dystopia. We need to preserve the games that stimulated intelligence instead of only lust, aggression and mindless clicking speed. This leads to a society of pornography, violence and car chases, i.e. a boring society with no higher values. Have you noticed the games on the cell phones? No Tetris, no Sokoban, no Xonix. Why is that? Anyway, kudos for the DesktopMen for making this game! I like the screenshot in this article. It looks like a time bomb! And who doesn't like a little dose of adrenaline while playing Tetris? In fact, I think I'll play some Gnometris right now (with my custom manually drawn blocks, no less!). This is the research I can fully sopport. Making games that make people more intelligent instead of wasting the open source resources on making yet another mp3 player so people could listen to Britny Spears. Bravo. The next should be Sokoban or Tron-like game.

Re:Tetris is great (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11661969)

You, sir, are the saviour of all that is good and holy. May I start a religion dedicated to worshiping you?

Re:Tetris is great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11662054)

Certainly, that would be an honour for me. In fact, I have been thinking about it for quite some time and I think the best name would be: The Temple of Pan Tarhei. Sounds nice, doesn't it? And it looks great in the default header font on Wikipedia.

Re:Tetris is great (1)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 9 years ago | (#11662077)

Wow, that was longer than the article.
On the other hand, anyone know an easy way to get tetris on a Nokia 3595?

Re:Tetris is great (2, Insightful)

SetupWeasel (54062) | more than 9 years ago | (#11664119)

Today sex and blood is all kids want, no wonder that the society slowly turns into a sociopathic dystopia.

It's the children's fault! Their carnal urges and hormones is ripping the very fabric of society. People would never learn to torture prisoners or "pop the coochie" without the evils of modern video games.

If only the world were simple like tetris, where blocks fall from the sky and no one has a penis.

Woe! Oh WOE is the world of Street Fighter II. If it weren't for such gastly abominations we might live in a crimeless world where all the restaurants are Taco Bell and every curse word is fined! CRAZY VIDEO GAME NINJA SKILLS, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?!?!?

Re:Tetris is great (0, Offtopic)

cgenman (325138) | more than 9 years ago | (#11664915)

If only the world were simple like tetris, where blocks fall from the sky and no one has a penis.

What do you think that 4-block line is?

Re:Tetris is great (1)

MilenCent (219397) | more than 9 years ago | (#11664384)

Well, they certainly make games like Nethack these days, since Nethack has never actually had its development ended (though the DevTeam is infamous for leaving multiple years between releases). Also note that recent versions of Nethack, themselves, contain an implementation of Sokoban.

But there are actually new classic games being made today, and even popular ones: Grand Theft Auto and Katamari Damacy, provided they don't wreck them in further sequels, may very well be destined for that same kind of longevity.

It's just that there are not a great many of these games, certainly not as many as there were back in the golden ages of arcade gaming.

Re:Tetris is great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11672596)

I'm waiting for One-Line Puzzle [gamespot.com] .

First Steps (3, Insightful)

MBCook (132727) | more than 9 years ago | (#11662168)

These are the first steps. It's quite cool. I actually saw this about a week ago somewhere, but at that time the person could just get crud on the screen (just stuff to prove that it was working) and wasn't an actual game yet.

Still this is very cool. When someone figures out how to get thing on through the wireless (since the DS is designed to be able to boot stuff that way) the scene will probably explode.

finally... (5, Interesting)

drkfdr (785982) | more than 9 years ago | (#11662358)

It's about time the works on the DS got slashdotted. Too bad it's just a short post. It should say that Nintendo did a bad job in protecting this system. I'm in the greets because of the first working pass-through btw :) Of course I don't want to brag about it. -> http://darkfader.net/ds/

Re:finally... (1)

MyDixieWrecked (548719) | more than 9 years ago | (#11662783)

darkfader, good job. ;)

I haven't been following the work of you guys for the last month or so, but it seems you've gotten some serious work done. Last I saw was the vieo with the pass-through thing set up where you hacked the metroid hunters screen to show yer website.

Out of curiosity, (3, Interesting)

Aggrazel (13616) | more than 9 years ago | (#11662891)

What challenges are there to hack a wifi card to emulate the DS's wifi stuff (which I understand is horribly proprietary) and load code on the DS over that?

I know it'd be kinda silly to have a portable that needs your laptop to load custom code, but it would just be interesting to use to see what you could get the system to do.

Re:Out of curiosity, (2, Informative)

mrseigen (518390) | more than 9 years ago | (#11668909)

Well, so far the guys at DSDev have managed to get the DS's "Play Downloaded Game" feature to display a title and icon of their choosing. I'm not aware of the particulars, try joining the forum [gbadev.org] and going along.

Re:Out of curiosity, (1)

buffer-overflowed (588867) | more than 9 years ago | (#11670916)

It's not proprietary. It's 802.11b. The protocol is proprietary. Packet dumps of the DS communicating have been out there since a few days after it was launched. The guys at XLink almost have the thing tunneled(I should go check on that) and a few other people are working on figuring out the protocol.

Anyway, any prism2 chipset card should be gtg on linux, you could use a linksys WRT54G router flashed with custom firmware, or a broadcom chipset card on windows/OSX.

If it works with kismet/netstumbler, you should be fine, but don't buy anything yet.

Re:Out of curiosity, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11671151)

the guys at xlink are dicks and have dropped the project blaiming nintendo and the nintendo fanbase for their failures... the general concensus from the ds hacking community is that xlink just "couldn't hack it"...

Re:Out of curiosity, (0)

zonker (1158) | more than 9 years ago | (#11671205)

Heh, here's a link [themodgods.com] . Looks like they took down their forums for the entire project.

Whoa (2, Interesting)

Headcase88 (828620) | more than 9 years ago | (#11663390)

That's some inventive use of the bottom screen ;)

Well, seriously, that's a good start. Nice to see some homebrew stuff on the DS.

Re:Whoa (1)

88NoSoup4U88 (721233) | more than 9 years ago | (#11667869)

I am not sure (don't own a DS...yet) : But with all Gameboy games, you can choose to either use the bottom or top screen ; But not both at the same time (splitscreen) :

Since this game has to be inserted using the Flashrom GB cartridges, it makes sense it would not use both of the screens.

More of a "GBA Homebrew Plus" (2, Interesting)

TheoB (859132) | more than 9 years ago | (#11663487)

There wasn't much info in TFA or the download, but it kind of looks like the pass-through and software are GBA based, and taking advantage of DS backwards compatibility. Is there a rundown someplace of the DS-specific work that went into the project?

Re:More of a "GBA Homebrew Plus" (4, Informative)

Dwedit (232252) | more than 9 years ago | (#11664159)

The GBA cartridge is used to hold the code. It runs the code completely in DS mode after booting it up.

Re:More of a "GBA Homebrew Plus" (1)

realityfighter (811522) | more than 9 years ago | (#11675429)

Is that possible? I mean, as I understand it the DS processes the code differently depending on where you choose to load from, the DS slot or the GBA cart. Am I wrong?

Proper Credit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11665879)

Looks like Nintendo is still making money off of Alexey Pajitnov's invention. I bet he doesnt see a dime of it...

Re:Proper Credit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11665934)

From what I understand, you are correct. He is sleeping in a gutter and eating half-finished plate lunches behind an L&Ls.

Re:Proper Credit (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11667448)

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?AlexeyPajitnov [c2.com] shows that he's finally getting royalties and is employed by Microsoft Research.

Re:Proper Credit (1)

Schmendr1ck (658453) | more than 9 years ago | (#11670036)

Alexey Pajitnov is part owner of The Tetris Company, which handles the licensing for all official Tetris products (though they obviously don't see a dime for the unlicensed clones out there).

You'd be surprised at how much TTC makes in Tetris licensing - several million a year. There are scads of handheld games, games that plug into the TV, cell phone versions, and the PC/console versions. Tetris is still making a LOT of money for Henk Rogers and Alexey is getting his share of it too.

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