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'Make' Premier Issue

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the dee-eye-why dept.

Hardware Hacking 198

prostoalex writes "The premier issue of Make magazine arrived in a thick envelope in my mailbox a few days ago. The magazine has been previousl publicized on Slashdot. Edited (in chief) by Mark Frauenfelder from BoingBoing and published by John Battelle and O'Reilly, this is an attempt for a quarterly publication for hackers, tinkerers, do-it-yourself type of guys and people interested in technology (not necessarily computers)." Read on for Alex's review; this sounds like the best parts of 1970s-era Popular Mechanics.

But enough with the links. On the front page the magazine features 181 pages for DIY technology, promising stories on aerial photography, backyard monorails, XM radio hacks, iPod tricks, DIY magnetic card reader and blogging made simple. Make is roughly half the size of a normal full-page magazine (like PC Mag or InfoWorld) and generally feels like a paperback book more than a magazine. The paper is also not the glossy print you'd see in normal magazines, it says on page 8 that they used New Leaf Paper, made 100% from post-consumer waste. Make generally uses normal-type font, which should be readable by anyone, except for some pages where they switch to really large fonts.

The magazine is broken down into several logical categories. It starts with editors' welcome letters and short features of some DIY projects people have done on their own (this guy's backyard monorail stands out). The Maker pages in this premiere issue contain an interview with Neil Gershenfeld from MIT, an article on heirloom technology, possibility of building an open-source car and an expose of Bay Area Dorkbot group.

The Projects category (starting at p. 49) is where the real fun starts. The projects take up majority of the pages, and it makes sense - looks like the authors put their best into providing excruciating details, pieces of advice and general information, so that anyone can follow their work. The projects are well-illustrated, some contain necessary diagrams and cartoon-like explanations of what needs to be done to assemble the proper devices, the step-by-step pages contain both pictures and text. Each project is sub-divided into several parts - Set up (list of everything needed before you start), Make it (the actual step-by-step instructions and discussion of the projects), Use it (reasons for tinkering with the project in the first place). The setup list is also provided on Make Web site, like here's the list of components for magnetic stripe reader.

The projects for the issue include adding a disposable camera to the kite for aerial photography, a $14 video camera stabilizer, 5-in-1 network cable (the combination of RJ45 and DB9 inputs) and the magnetic stripe reader.

The major projects are followed by the projects consuming less time and efforts. This is mainly for people who would rather spend more money at the spot, buy some cool accessory to complement their electronic device, and do minimal engineering on their own, as far as I understand. The categories include Home Entertainment, Mobile, Cars, Online, Computers and some additional projects that did not fit anywhere above. The table of contents contains the complete list of projects.

It looks like the magazine that is needed in the market. At some point playing with technology became synonymous with running to the nearest mall and getting the latest electronic gadget, and even RadioShack nowadays mostly looks like a flashy storefront for selling cell service plans and new PDAs. Make is the magazine for people who like to look under the hood, who like to work on do-it-yourself projects and who feel great accomplishment when a project is over, even though its practical usability might be questioned. Of course, the amount of projects in the magazine is a bit overwhelming, but my guess is they figure you'll find some extremely interesting and some are just not interesting at all.

Since I grew up in the Soviet Union, Make magazine reminds me of Young Technician (when technician meant someone involved with technology), a Russian must-subscribe boy magazine that would pull the latest science and technology news together, and also dedicate large portion of its pages to readers' projects. Of course, nowadays, in the age of Hack A Day, Lifehacker and numerous HOW-TOs such magazine might not exactly have the exclusive coverage of the DIY projects. Google might turn out more results, but for some of the projects it also looks like the authors were either pioneers or authorities in their field since googling for DIY aerial photography provides just Make article and a bunch of links to it.

Make is a quarterly publication, so $35 subscription fee covers only 4 issues per year. A bit expensive, but if you plan to enrich yourself and spend free time more productively, I think Make has lots of content to entice the reader and keep him busy for 3 months. First impression might not mean a whole lot, but Make was one of few magazines that I enjoyed reading from page 1 to page 192.

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Can you hear Special Ed yelling... (0, Offtopic)

Uptown Joe (819388) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704246)

I Make in my pants sometimes...

Re:Can you hear Special Ed yelling... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704822)

It's okey, mommy will clean it up in a minute, darling!

(NOTE: everyone other than your "mother" hates you because you are a disgusting greasy white wank-monkey)

I'll wait (5, Funny)

Rei (128717) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704277)

I think I'll wait for its successor, CMake magazine. I've heard that it's a lot easier to understand.

Re:I'll wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704292)

I think I'll wait for its successor, CMake magazine. I've heard that it's a lot easier to understand.

Microsofties will be waiting for nmake the magazine.

Re:I'll wait (1)

afabbro (33948) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704328)

And Java geeks are waiting for ant magazine.

Re:I'll wait (1)

Deinhard (644412) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704550)

I'd hate to see the build.xml file for an entire magazine!

I'm waiting for GNU/Make (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704307)

It's one of the most portable make systems available.

Re:I'll wait (1)

fembots (753724) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704325)

Top seller will always be MakeLove Magazine though.

Re:I'll wait (4, Funny)

Mad Bad Rabbit (539142) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704402)

Be sure to read 'Configure' magazine beforehand.
And after you finish reading 'Make', read it again
(but just the Install section).

Re:I'll wait (1)

tehshen (794722) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704590)

It isn't available in my country, so I read something called 'Autogen' instead

Nah... (1)

game kid (805301) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704632)

...I still prefer pressing the triangle arrow or pressing F5, thank you. Doing configure then make is a lot cheaper, though.

Re:I'll wait (1)

captainClassLoader (240591) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704435)

CMake sounds good, but I'll wait for next version after that - It's going to have edgy artwork, glossy paper, and a million features (most of which I won't use). I hear it's going to called Ant.

Re:I'll wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704620)


Let's hope to god that they're never desperate enough to come out with xmake..

Re:I'll wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704800)

GNU/Make or gmake ?

Re:I'll wait (1)

3terrabyte (693824) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705394)

I think I'll just wait to DL the PDF at the NG.
BOYB

Yeah, But... (4, Funny)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704299)

a quarterly publication for hackers, tinkerers, do-it-yourself type of guys and people interested in technology (not necessarily computers)

Yeah but, will it ever replace Slashdot?

Re:Yeah, But... (4, Funny)

cjsnell (5825) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704606)

Yeah but, will it ever replace Slashdot?

Probably not...duplicate stories will cost you $8.74 /ea.

Re:Yeah, But... (4, Funny)

YrWrstNtmr (564987) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704765)

No, but Make actually tells/shows you how to do something, instead of simply screaming at you to RTFM.

Re:Yeah, But... (2, Funny)

sdo1 (213835) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704991)

Yeah but, will it ever replace Slashdot?

Until I get a flat panel monitor on the wall of my bathroom, the magazine will have to do.

-S

Just use a PDA with a wireless adapter... (1)

Torqued (91619) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705138)

that's what I do! :)

Re:Yeah, But... (1)

antoy (665494) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705412)

Get a laptop!

Re:Yeah, But... (1)

ggvaidya (747058) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705145)

Yeah but, will it ever replace Slashdot?

But what about the trolls? Will Nobody Think of the Trolls?!

Re:Yeah, But... (1)

EnronHaliburton2004 (815366) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705432)

Yeah but, will it ever replace Slashdot?

Never, because the point behind 'Make' is to actually READ the articles.

On /., we just mock the articles.

"previousl publicized"? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704303)

In Soviet Russia typos make YOU!

$35 for 4 issues (2, Interesting)

John Seminal (698722) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704312)

lets see some of the reports from issue #1:

192: My First Computer
Remembering how my dad built an Apple II from scratch.

170: MakeShift
Imagine this: Your car battery is dead, and you're stuck in the woods. Your mission: Get home before you freeze to death.

84: $14 Video Camera Stabilizer
You don't have $10,000 to spend on a Steadicam? Make this ultra-low-cost video camera stabilizer and see how much better your video shots turn out.

I think I'll pass on this one. Maybe when they get to 12 issues for $12.95 I'll think about it.

Re:$35 for 4 issues (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704478)

For the other two I can find plenty of information on the web, but for that middle one . . . I DON'T WANT TO FREEZE TO DEATH!!11

Re:$35 for 4 issues (2, Funny)

Trigun (685027) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704933)

I'll give you a hint; spin the alternator really fast with the ignition key on. Pantyhose work wonders for a makeshift engine belt, but are difficult to explain to the wife when she finds them wadded up in your glovebox.

Re:$35 for 4 issues (2, Funny)

Commander Doofus (776923) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705125)

Pantyhose work wonders for a makeshift engine belt, but are difficult to explain to the wife...

Never mind that, how do you explain your sig to your wife?

In other news (0, Redundant)

bbzzdd (769894) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704317)

Today Microsoft announced nmake. Instructions free, diagrams only available after signing NDA.

Does this mean... (5, Funny)

Robotron23 (832528) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704323)

We have to go...outside to do these projects?

Re:Does this mean... (1)

Spytap (143526) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704425)

We have to go...outside to do these projects?

Aren't there bears "Outside?" [penny-arcade.com]

Re:Does this mean... (2, Funny)

nacturation (646836) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705174)

Of course not! The next issue details constructing your own wind tunnel so that you can implement this issue's aerial kite photography project.

Go Make Go! (4, Funny)

alamut (122156) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704326)

I heard about this on the previous /. article, It sounded like a cool mag, but you can never be too sure. now that a real human has read it and told me about it, i am much more comfortable about shelling out my hard earned bux.

of course, now i'll have to suffer with h4x0r inferiority complex, but thats the price i'll pay....

Re:Go Make Go! (1)

iocat (572367) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704808)

Anyone else get their's yet? I subscribed but haven't received an issue yet -- thought I did get an email subscriber survey.

Re:Go Make Go! (1)

Fjornir (516960) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705193)

I'm a bit annoyed that I haven't recieved mine yet. Given the amount of email they've thrown at me (the survey, the "Make News" letter, ... ) and the fact that on 2/4 I was told "in a few days"...

Re:Go Make Go! (1)

Keepiru (78270) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705441)

I got mine like two weeks ago, Of course, the day that I got the offer I went in and signed up online. I'd imagine that they have quite a few issues to ship out. While I'm not overly interested in the projects in this one, I do like the layout, and I'm sure there will be projects I like in later ones. The articles were great, especially the one on a Fab Lab, I so want some of that equipment.

Re:Go Make Go! (1)

Lord Dimwit Flathead (668521) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705471)

I'm still waiting for mine too. Maybe in the next issue they can run an article on postal service optimization.

192 Pages? (3, Interesting)

John Fulmer (5840) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704329)

Wow.

In the day of paper thin magizines (anyone read 'Time' lately?), that's pretty hefty. Even if it is 1/2 size.

What I didn't see was any mention of how much advertising there was (or will be).

Re:192 Pages? (5, Informative)

cmorgan47 (720310) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704652)

What I didn't see was any mention of how much advertising there was (or will be).

not much at all.

Reminds me of "Wired" in the late '90s? (3, Funny)

Infonaut (96956) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705308)

At one point the mag was so thick that police officers in major cities were subscribing, just so they could use 'em as hillbilly personal armor. I used to use my back issues to reinforce deterioriating sections of the basement walls in my house.

But seriously, those things were huge. It was a giddy era. Negroponte was waxing philosophical about digital this and digital that. Articles about crazy new technology abounded. Everyone walked around wearing shades because the future was so damned bright.

The future just ain't what it used to be, eh?

Lucky, lucky, lucky... (5, Funny)

mmaddox (155681) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704334)

You got yours before I got mine. I think our mailman's on a bender, again.

(Still waiting)

Re:Lucky, lucky, lucky... (1)

John3 (85454) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704662)

Waiting here as well... :-(

Re:Lucky, lucky, lucky... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704764)

sigh.. ditto..

Re:Lucky, lucky, lucky... (2, Interesting)

eggoeater (704775) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705387)

Yup...me too. You'd think all the advance subscribers would get their mags at the same time since we were kind enough to give them our money without even looking at the final product.

Make (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704342)

Here I thought this was a HOWTO on configure, make && make install.

I figured even RPM installs are better. For easiest use, deal with apt, urpmi, or synaptic.

Wonder if the magazine was proposed by a gentoo user. Wait, even THEY use emerge!!!

it's about time (4, Insightful)

bindir (63128) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704346)

It's about time there is a magazine out there that's more than just pages of video game ads and reviews. If only tomshardware had a featured spot in this magazine....Hopefully the magazine won't end up too technical and not have enough subscribers

WTF? Make up your mind! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11705219)

It's about time there is a magazine out there that's more than just pages of video game ads and reviews...Hopefully the magazine won't end up too technical...

I can remember two types of computer magazines from days of yore: British ones, which were 99% advertisements and 1% game reviews (though often quite funny); and American magazines, such as Byte, which were very technical and a pleasure to read.

What is you actually want?

Re:WTF? Make up your mind! (2, Interesting)

Shturmovik (632314) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705386)

You're probably going to be modded troll or flamebait, but for what it's worth I agree and remember exactly the kind of thing you're talking about.

There was a review of 'Warcraft 2', back when it was first released, in one of those 6" thick English PC mags. It was hyserically funny, and I bought the game on the strength of it, so I guess it did the job intended. But I had to wade through more than 100 pages of ads just to get to the contents page, letalone the review!

And then there was a story from a 'Byte' columnist (I think it was) about the time he and his college roomie built a poor-man's cleanroom in his mom's bathroom and salvaged junked HDDs for fun and profit.

I always got the impression that the English writers were a little bit out of their depth once the task at hand was anything more than, say, tweaking their autoexec.bat and congig.sys files to free up some extra memory for their games, whereas the American magazine writers were usually grizzled old greybeards, who cut their teeth designing ICs at Motorola, or laying out PCBs at TI.

Not a trolll, not a dig at British technical know-how! Just my own memories anyway.

Re:it's about time (4, Informative)

captaincucumber (450913) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705470)

I got mine in the mail yesterday...

It's a nice mix of technical and not-technical. about 1/3rd of the stuff I saw looked like stuff I would have loved to have played with as a kid (i.e. if you're technical enough to handle model rocketry), and another 1/3rd is moderately technical. Another 1/3rd is product reviews and recommendations - like an explosive drain clog remover that uses CO2 cartriges.

The actual projects have step-by-step instructions, so I assume you wouldn't need to be technical at all to do them. The list of items for some of them is pretty intense though, like the kite photography howto, makes me wish they offered kits.

Overall I think it's an awesome magazine and I hope it lasts.

First Issue arrived yesterday... (5, Informative)

L0stb0Y (108220) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704347)

The first issue arrived yesterday, and I really enjoyed reading it. It is different in scope than the likes of Nuts and Volts or Servo; but the magazine (or Mook as they are calling it: magazine + book) was well put together. They have a discussion group off their main website also, where it appears people are already discussing the building of the projects (read: tech support ;) Not that you'd need it, the articles are pretty clear....

LosT

No Link? (2, Informative)

OECD (639690) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704350)

No link to Popular Mechanics [popularmechanics.com] ? They've had a web presence since '96 or so. Give them some love, editors.

Re:No Link? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11705149)

The editors are probably just annoyed about this. [popularmechanics.com]

Geekazine! (2, Interesting)

Stanistani (808333) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704362)

I must buy this... even if I don't have so much time to do projects, at least I can see how folks are doing it nowadays...

Yes, you can Google stuff, but nothing compares to the portability of dead trees.

I can wallow in the memories of the projects (some now illegal, alas, if done today) I did as a young nerd (1964-1984).

Will they publish deadtree-only content? (3, Interesting)

dmorin (25609) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704416)

The lead time for publishing a paper magazine is atrocious when compared to webtime. Many web sites for regular print magazines will only run the articles after the print has gone out. What's the deal going to be with Make, do we know? By the time it shows up in my mailbox will I already have read the articles [engadget.com] ?

Re:Will they publish deadtree-only content? (1)

TrollBridge (550878) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704523)

Perhaps they're worried that, if they published on the web or some other means of electronic distribution, that it would be redistributed, or "pirated". Their revenue could be virtually castrated by the rampant copying of thier magazine

But we all know that never happens on the Internet. Why do they insist on treating their customers like CRIMINALS!?!

Re:Will they publish deadtree-only content? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704669)

This is O'Reilly we're talking about here. The people that routinely republish whole books on the web for free.

Re:Will they publish deadtree-only content? (1)

sylvandb (308927) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704794)

Perhaps they're worried that, if they published on the web or some other means of electronic distribution, that it would be redistributed, or "pirated". Their revenue could be virtually castrated by the rampant copying of thier magazine

Which seems rather odd, considering that much if not all of their material (at least this first issue) CAME FROM other web articles.

eg 5-in-1 cable [ossmann.com] and I'm sure I read the kite-digicam mod somewhere...

sdb

Bonus sneakpeek of... (4, Funny)

GillBates0 (664202) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704426)

...this issue's center spread [nylug.org] .

Future editions are expected to feature many such real life pictures of geeks in action, potentially attracting thousands of subscribers.

Re:Bonus sneakpeek of... (1)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704636)

I'm not sure why multiple people are linking that picture today, but this [nylug.org] is the real gem from that photo session.

Re:Bonus sneakpeek of... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704681)

(I'm the poster of the comment above). I posted this picture in another thread too. Can't get enough of it...but you're right your picture's a gem too. I like mine because of the expression of the left most guy.

BTW, no offense against these fellows in the picture...I'm probably geekier looking (insert stereotypes here) than all of them.

Re:Bonus sneakpeek of... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704850)

That's just so tragic.

This picture will be featured in Microsoft's next campaign. Caption: "This is you on Linux."

damn (1)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705374)

i just want to run up to those guys with some clippers and give them nice, sharp haircuts.

LinuxWorld (2, Informative)

Kancer (61362) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704447)

These guys were at linuxworld Boston yesterday. Pretty cool stuff, I was holding this in my hand yesterday. Kinda looked like an Ikea [ikea.com] catalogue.

One more link from their company was http://www.makingthings.com/ [makingthings.com]

i'm stoked (3, Funny)

ruxxell (819349) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704453)

yeah!
i've been waiting for this badboy for a while now. not that i'm actually adept at tinkering, but that's the whole idea, i guess, right?

for the meantime, i've been reading nuts and volts magazine while running the elliptical thing at the gym. its so funny, because everyone else is reading fitness magazines, and i'm lookin at inductor related schematics. wtf?

yeah i went to RPI.

Subscription Promotional Codes (2, Informative)

Krieger (7750) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704460)

So the subscribe page has a section for promotional codes. Which makes me wonder if people have seen them. For $35, it's probably worth it, but if there are promotional codes... why not use them.

Why not? (1)

game kid (805301) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704723)

I haven't RTFMagazine but my rule of thumb is when it says "Save teh $50!!1!" and we don't see the price, the product costs 10 times more. Why not? you ask? Because, from what I've seen, promotional codes==magazine versions of spam and adware (with a bit more legality).

Re:Subscription Promotional Codes (3, Informative)

mcgrue (104691) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704727)

A quick google found "M5ZXML" for a free issue. I used it and was informed it worked. YMMV.

Re:Subscription Promotional Codes (2, Informative)

dr_canak (593415) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704998)

Thx for the promo code,

I would just add that the promo code gives you a free edition above and beyond the 4 you get with a regular subscription. So it is a free issue, but it requires a full subscription, in which case you get five issues instead of four.

but useful info nonetheless, thx.
jeff

One of my treasured possessions. . . (5, Interesting)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704469)

is a 1968 Popular Mechanics DIY encyclopedia. Me mum bought it for me when I were a wee lad. I got lucky on mums. When I started taking everything in the house apart to see how it worked; and if I could put it together again, better, she not only encouraged me, but went so far as convert the living room of our home into a workshop (American urban colonial neighborhood. No garage. I can, literally, shake hands with my neighbor without either one of us leaving our bedrooms).

She didn't even blink when she came home one day to find I had built a formula car in the dining room because there wasn't room for it in the living room workshop. We all just lived in the kitchen for awhile, which is where we spent most of our family time anyway.

More recently she's actually the one who clued me in to the whole dorkbot thingy (I'm a fairly solitary tinkerer, although testing new vehicles does seem to draw something of a crowd at times).

So what the hell happened to PM anyway?

Sounds like I'll have to at least check out Make, but I fear I'll be disappointed in it. . .only coming out quarterly.

KFG

Brick and Mortar? (2, Insightful)

ArticleI (842868) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704483)

Does anyone know what brick and mortar retailers will be carrying Make? The local Barnes and Noble hasn't even heard of it.

Re:Brick and Mortar? (2, Interesting)

SmokeHalo (783772) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704743)

There was a post on the magazine website [oreilly.com] that said:
It will also be available in coming months through most of the same online and brick-and-mortar retailers that carry O'Reilly's other publications, plus select newsstand outlets. We'll be posting more about that as it becomes available at those places. But the subscribers will be getting it sooner.

Re:Brick and Mortar? (2, Interesting)

rsklnkv (532866) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705223)

I work at Powells Books in Oregon and we will stock it. Both the Portland (the Powells Techinical Store) and Beaverton stores will carry it.

Re:Brick and Mortar? (1)

Sentar (188247) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705483)

Oooh, at the Beaverton one, too eh? Oh good, that's on my way home from work...

I'll guess is how it's written... (3, Funny)

niteice (793961) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704502)

tar xzvf make-magazine-1.1.tar.gz
cd make-magazine-1.1
./configure --pages=192
make articles
make magazine

SEX WITH A NIGGA (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704509)

Li7e is straining Lite sis straining you got there. Or while the project Come on baby...and paranoid conspiracy Come on baby...and continues to lose

getting the obvious joke out of the way (1)

greenguy (162630) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704624)

I'll wait for the follow-up, Make Install.

Would it be out of line (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704651)

to ask for a .torrent?

Current issue with subscription? (1)

Blackwulf (34848) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704667)

Does anyone know if you get this first issue if you go ahead and get a subscription today? I've never heard about it until today and I'm interested in some of the stuff in this issue. I can call the number when I'm off work, but if anyone knows the answer before then that'd be great...

Re:Current issue with subscription? (1)

FuzzzyLogik (592766) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704907)

I ordered mine 2 days ago. they said my first issue will be shipped shortly. meaning that the first issue is likely what you would get.. unless you order within a week or so of the second issue coming out then that might be the one you get first.. just a guess, but call to make sure

make magazine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704673)

make: *** No rule to make target `magazine'. Stop.

Finally (1)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704679)

God I miss the days when being into technology meant actually building and designing your own gear. I still do it to an extent, but some of it has moved into the "virtual" arena. I wonder how many Slashdot readers actually ever made their own crystal radios as kids? Or how many of us "modded" our cheapo TVs and stereos back in the late 70s and early 80s to give us pseudo stereo and then eventually real stereo TV? Or... how many of us handwired and built our own SIMM memory expanders for our Amigas and Atari STs? Those are all things I did, but a lot of times I feel like I'm one of the only ones here who ever did this kind of thing. Kind of like my old theory that musicians make the best computer tech folks.

Re:Finally (1)

FuzzzyLogik (592766) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704812)

I grew up a bit late for that kinda stuff.. born in 1982 meant not being able to experience that kind of thing. I jumped on this magazine when i seen it was being published. I absolutely cannot wait to get this in my hands. I'm tempted to run to the nearest store to see if they're carrying it. I put my subscription in but i am in dire need of some projects to do, something different, something new. Programming is great but I want something new to do. I come here hoping to hear stories about people talking about the fun things they did when they tried projects like you said. I used to watch TechTV all the time, ya i know blah blah blah, but now there's only one show i watch on there and it's called Icons. It brings me back to the days of NES, and the Tandy 1000, the old computers and the old computer games i used to play. WHen games were FUN and inventive. All games are these days are pretty garbage. I care barely play them (i'm 22) without putting the mouse or controller down after an hour because the learning curve or the entertainment value is so limited. I want my old Lucas Arts adventure games back, I want my old Mario titles back, I want all those fun crappy graphics games back that had great stories and easy controls and fun game play. It's similar to what you feel about making your own things. It's a nasalgia feeling, and i love it.

Re:Finally (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11705011)

May I suggest some spelling classes or perhaps a few hours with the dictionary to get rid of that 'nasalgia' feeling?
I don't think you need to play any more video games until you get your spelling and grammar back on track, Mr. "I'm 22" (and obviously illiterate).

P.S. - It's nostalgia.

Re:Finally (1)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705144)

Back when I was a kid, I used to love to read Radio Electronic and Popular Electronics magazines from cover to cover. I'd read all the project ideas, I'd look over the ads, everything. I remembered seeing the Altair ads in my really old back issues and dreamt of the day when I could have my own computer. I built my own Timex-Sinclair ZX81 computer about the time you were born. It was all great fun. Unfortunately it seems that as electronics have become more and more minaturized, DIY has become somewhat harder. However, with the advent of PICs, Stix and SBDs, I think that computing and hobbyist electronics can be joined together. The neatest thing about DIY is that you can always put yourself ahead of the curve by having stuff that most people won't have at home for another five to ten years. :)

Howtoons (4, Informative)

t482 (193197) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704682)

Are these the same as http://www.howtoons.org/ [howtoons.org] ?

Re:Howtoons (1)

prockcore (543967) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704817)

Are these the same as http://www.howtoons.org/?


Yeah, the one about building a little motor is actually in the first issue of Make

SERVO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704737)

This looks like a great addition to www.servomagazine.com [servomagazine.com]

I Won't Be Reading (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11704755)

The guy behind BoingBoing is such a biased flaming liberal. The mag is sure to be as worthless.

hmm.. (1)

jspectre (102549) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704793)

i got mine last week, and no envelope.

damn!

I'm impressed with it (3, Interesting)

Randy Rathbun (18851) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704816)

Nothing really too complicated in there, and it looks like you can build most of the stuff they present with just a few hours of work. The DIY stuff is pretty darn simple, actually.

When I was lookin' through my issue last night I kind of skimmed by the stuff they showed OS X doing - but when I went back and read it this morning, it actually looked like some cool stuff.

I do hope that in the future they have some actual electronics projects in there of some sort. I am sure they will. This time around it looked to be mainly taking what is already out there and showing different ways of putting said gizmo to use, or fixing it.

Overall though, I have to give Make a big thumbs up. It looks nice, is fun to read, and is gonna be really useful.

BTW, as I was typing this, I kept trying to come up with what Make reminds me of. I think I got it.... a paper version of The Screen Savers when the show did not suck.

Can they keep the pace in the future? (1)

my_myself_i (754013) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704943)

With providing such a large premier issue, does anyone think they will be able to provide as much content in future editions? If they could, it would be a great magazine, but I kind of doubt that they will be able to keep it up. Time will tell ...

Re:Can they keep the pace in the future? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11705116)

Yeah they will be able to keep pace. I myself can't even keep up with the amount of books that are related to robotics which in itself is a relatively narrow field. Imagine opening it up to almost anything related to nerds. Im just starting to drool.

I'll get it (2, Funny)

ein2many (850712) | more than 9 years ago | (#11704955)

For the pictures. Not like Playboy, for the articals

Can you get it without subscribing? (1)

teneighty (671401) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705301)

This magazine sounds really cool, but I'd like to actually read an issue before deciding whether or not I want to subscribe.

Does anyone know if you can get it in any stories, or is it subscription only? From reading the site, it sounds like it is subscription only, but I'm hoping that's not the case.

PS: Is it just me, or do most of the projects they covered sound awfully lot like slashdot stories we've had in the last 6 months?

subscription process (1)

enrico_suave (179651) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705356)

Did anyone else find the credit card process/flow a little unusual for subscribing?

It asks for your CC info, then gives you a "you've been invoiced" page where you can click on another link to "pay" with your credit card (again?!) but this time you really seem to submit it. Bizarre.

e.

Frauenfelder is a Liberal Faggot (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11705429)

And so's his buttbuddy Doctorow.

"boing boing" indeed.

Also, Xeni is a Fugly Dyke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11705478)

n/t

$14.99 Cover price? (0, Troll)

bburrill (234979) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705480)

Bit to pricy for me.

Support 2600 (1)

n3m0s (90117) | more than 9 years ago | (#11705503)

As I hope everyone knows, the zine 2600 [2600.com] has been around for a long time, and focuses on all things hackish. It's a great magazine, and deserves the support of the community.
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