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Daily Show Production Team Nets Creative Freedom

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the stephen-colbert-deserves-a-hug dept.

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gremlins writes "Jon Stewart, who recently celebrated his sixth anniversary with "The Daily Show" and was a rumored possible replacement to Dan Rathers, has signed a deal which allows his production team, Busboy Productions, to develop televison projects on their own. The deal also allows Busboy Productions to flirt with other networks when looking for a home for the projects. Comedy Central still gets the right of first refusal for any projects created."

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That's great (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719266)

But why is it on Slashdot?

(No, it's not even in the politics section.)

Re:That's great (5, Funny)

JonStewart (663472) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719296)

What can I say? Geeks love me. I share their love of internet porn.

Re:That's great (1)

3terrabyte (693824) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719311)

Hahahah!

How long have you waited for this moment... Anyway, too bad it's not rillly you, you're no Wil Wheaton.

Re:That's great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719646)

I hope Stewart is not like Wil Wheaton. There are enough little socialist twerps like Wheaton on the planet already without adding any more.

Re:That's great (-1, Flamebait)

game kid (805301) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719349)

I don't share Jon's love of crashing parties--and by parties I mean informative and even somewhat useful shows like Crossfire where they talk about real news (albeit from two extreme, different viewpoints). By comparison, the Daily Show's just been quite offensive (I saw a look at Iran's "demographic" (from the little I remember) there, which was mildly funny). Now they and CBS Evening's lead will be replaced by...*sigh* I'd Rather not think about it. Now the porn, yeah, that's pretty interesting in itself, but anyway...

Re:That's great (2, Informative)

glenkim (412499) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719369)

get with the program, Crossfire was a shitty show.

Re:That's great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719481)

Why in the hell was the parent modded informative ? WTF....

Re:That's great (2, Insightful)

Rooktoven (263454) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719490)

Because it was. (A shitty show.)

Re:That's great (1)

nobuzz (636720) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719784)

The worst part about it is that dip Tucker Carlson is now on pbs http://www.pbs.org/tuckercarlson/ [pbs.org]

Next time the pledge drive comes on people should call in and say they won't donate anything until they get this ass off the air.

Re:That's great (4, Insightful)

chuckgrosvenor (473314) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719440)

Crossfire was far from informative or even somewhat useful. Two sides shouting at each other without any rhyme or reason is not debate. Politics maybe, but not debate. Crossfire was part of what's wrong with political discussion in this country. A circus freakshow. The Daily Show is a freakshow, but it doesn't pretend to be "serious news" like Crossfire did.

Re:That's great (4, Insightful)

beakerMeep (716990) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719479)

OK, put down the xbox controller and try and think for a minute about why it would be damaging to take a complex, maybe nuanced issue and debate it from two extreme, skewed viewpoints. who stands to gain or lose from such style arguments? (I am not here to peddle conspiracy therioes on you so I will let you decide that for yourself).

The daily show isn't offensive it's irrevrant. There's a difference. and it's in this irrevrance that jon gained his following -- by exposing the ridiculous and disengenious crossfire style arguments.

Re:That's great, congratulations on being an idiot (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719674)

Wow, missed the point award goes to....

Jon's whole point was "we don't pretend to be news"
Obviously too subtle for you. At least he's funny.

Show me a Crossfire fan and I'll show you a psycho.
You people need to get laid while you still can.

Re:That's great, congratulations on being an idiot (0)

blue trane (110704) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719755)

What?

Re:That's great, congratulations on being an idiot (0)

JebusIsLord (566856) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719833)

yeah, what the fuck?

Re:That's great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719553)

iirc, he was invited on to help boost their ratings; and many enjoyed that he did.

Hey John. Crossfire appearance was strange. (1)

zymano (581466) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719385)

You need to calm down.

Politics is making you nuts.

Re:Hey John. Crossfire appearance was strange. (1)

JonStewart (663472) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719492)

My father had an old saying at the dinner table and it goes a little something like this, "You rationalise the small acts of unprincipled behaviour in terms of self-interest, and the next thing you're Henry Kissinger." He was such a drunk.

Re:Hey John. Crossfire appearance was strange. (2, Insightful)

tim256 (855256) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719748)

For a second there, I thought you were really Jon Stewart like on the Daily Show. But, Jon Stewart is American and they spell rationalize with a z and behavior without the u.

Re:That's great (2, Funny)

bradkittenbrink (608877) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719404)

dude, get off your ass and finish up your campaign website [jonstewart2008.com] !!

Tucker Carlson is *still* a dick (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719857)

Nice bow-tie, faggot.

...and wuddabout that wormy dweeb, Paul Begala...who's buttboy is he that he's even allowed on TV?

Maybe he's a fluffer in "Spin Alley"?

Stop hurting America.

Sheesh

Re:That's great (0, Flamebait)

game kid (805301) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719366)

Because after his assertive Crossfire appearance they--and I--wonder what Jon "You're as big a dick on your show as you are on any show" [cnn.com] Stewart will say and do next.

Re:That's great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719375)

So why isn't it in politics which I have excluded?

He cried like a Little Sissy Punk-Ass Bitch (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719395)

When Bush won his second term.
No Shit look it up.
He was in NYC going to some media party where everyone was having a good time(including his staff writers) despite the results coming in.Like most Lefty Partisan Hacks Stewie had been pounding his pud in celebatory anticipation of the Kerry Victory the rigged MSM exit polls had predicted.Like Michael More Lil Jonny was already to take credit for bringing down "Bush Chimpler".
Well he walks in and sees FL for Bush and Ohio leaning and he walked out sulking and back home to cry.
If he is so Hip and Au Courant and "better" than real journalists why the fuck couldn't he have a good time and say Ce La Vie?
Cuse he is a whining little prettyboy who takes himself too seriously.

Re:He cried like a Little Sissy Punk-Ass Bitch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719535)

You wanna fuck him, don't you.

Re:He cried like a Little Sissy Punk-Ass Bitch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719816)

I think he already has, and thats the problem

Re:That's great (4, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719437)

But why is it on Slashdot?

For the same reason that Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, and Star Trek gets covered here... it's what geeks watch.

Please (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719509)

It is not. Science fiction and fantasy are particularly geek oriented. A comedy news series is not. I'm sure geeks watch Survivor, too. Does that mean it should be covered on Slashdot?

News for Nerds (4, Interesting)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719514)

Last year an interesting story ran amok in the media about how _Daily Show_ watchers were beter informed than Fox News watchers. Geeks are better informed. The _Daily Show_, as a parody of news shows and the news, is for news geeks. We're such geeks that we can't even notice this basic fact without asking one another for clarification. Welcome to the club.

Re:That's great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719609)

becuz slashdot rulez! (not sarcastic)

Re:That's great (1)

ArmchairGenius (859830) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719793)

Apparently slashdot has a media - television section. Who knew?

Replacement for Dan Rather? (4, Funny)

rjamestaylor (117847) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719271)

A comedian as a replacement for a serious news anchor?

Oh yeah... Dan Rather. Sorry. I must have mis-read that.

Yeah (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719280)

Jon Stewart has a lot of experience with fake news.

Re:Yeah (1)

generic-man (33649) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719635)

It's only fitting that the cited article is from Gawker Media, a site/network that treats every facet of news like celebrity gossip. If you've never read one of their sites, imagine what Slashdot would be like if every story were written by a spoiled, ill-informed, over-opinionated techie masquerading as a journalist with good grammar and spelling.

heil hitler (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719272)

dicks dicks dicks dicks dicks lol oawidjow oWIJOI EWJoij rOewroijro;ijeoij oiEWJOI:`

Freedom? (2, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719279)

I don't think the article says that the TDS team gets any freedom... they're just getting funding to do spin-offs.

Jon Stewart (5, Funny)

Scoria (264473) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719281)

For more on this developing story, we turn to our senior Dan Rather analyst, Mr. Stephen Colbert.

Re:Jon Stewart (5, Funny)

Surye (580125) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719292)

You mean Ted Hitler right? ;)

Re:Jon Stewart (0, Redundant)

Scoria (264473) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719334)

Considering the subject of his comment, I'd speculate that this AC [slashdot.org] is a fan of Stephen's, too.

Don't you mean Ted Hitler? (5, Funny)

Aexia (517457) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719320)

Columbian drug mule and panda killer?

The sad thing is... (5, Insightful)

nebaz (453974) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719287)

The Daily Show is often more insightful about the news than the mainstream media. You would probably be better served watching a half hour of the Daily Show than CNN/Fox News, etc.

Re:The sad thing is... (0)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719294)

Wouldn't be the first time that something meant to be Funny gets modded +5 Insightful... happens to me all the time.

Re:The sad thing is... (3, Insightful)

xgamer04 (248962) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719332)

I'd say it's more "+1 Insightful" and "+1 Scary" than "+1 Funny"

Re:The sad thing is... (2, Insightful)

mythosaz (572040) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719393)

Except, the parent isn't trying to be funny. The Daily Show is, in some regards, better "news" than the crap that comes on after primetime television.

Their news IS parody of real news, of course, but it's insightful, it's thought-provoking, and they're equal opportunity in their mocking of liberals and conservatives.

If you saw Stewart on Crossfire, you'd know he takes politics seriously. [Read his book, America: Democracy Inaction [amazon.com] - at $15 for a "textbook," you can't beat it.

Re:The sad thing is... (1)

fimbulvetr (598306) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719653)

Might I also add the "America - The book - The audio book", the audio version of this book is read by TDS crew, and I felt is was more entertaining than the book.
It was also more amusing, especially when Jon started out the audio book with the sentence:

"Welcome, non-reader"

Re:The sad thing is... (5, Interesting)

Koiu Lpoi (632570) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719333)

That's true, wasn't there some survey done not too long ago, showing Daily Show watchers more in touch with reality than others?

Re:The sad thing is... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719370)

Not too surprising when you think about it. People whatching the daily show do so to get an interesting perspective on things, you may not agree with it - but you watch it from another angle. Many people who whatch network news just take whatever is spoon fed to them. Not surprising that they end up out of touch (considering the news itself is sort of out of touch).

Re:The sad thing is... (-1, Flamebait)

Kafka_Canada (106443) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719486)

Um, didn't John Stewart think John Kerry would make a good president?

Talk about out of touch with reality...

Re:The sad thing is... (1)

benna (614220) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719600)

Not really. He just thought he would make a better president than bush. He spent plenty of time mocking kerry too.

Re:The sad thing is... (3, Informative)

generic-man (33649) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719855)

Did you see his John Kerry interview? He was practically in love with Kerry and his bold plan of "not being George W. Bush."

The Daily Show claims to have extended an invitation to George W. Bush. I can't imagine that Bush would have received the same treatment, though Bill O'Reilly got a grudging round of applause when he appeared on the Daily Show to eat some crow about his "stoned slackers" remark.

Then again, I saw Al Gore's and George W. Bush's appearances on Letterman in 2000. Gore got along very well with Letterman, having been on the show before in his capacity as vice president. Bush appeared via satellite, cracked some awful surgery-related jokes (Letterman had underwent bypass surgery) and got loudly booed.

Re:The sad thing is... (3, Insightful)

randomiam (514027) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719498)

I remember seeing that survey, or online poll or whatever a few months ago too.

I think that people (willfully) misinterpret that result. That poll in no way implied that 'Daily Show' viewers (myself included) were more knowledgeable on current events *because* they watched DS. Although there's no way for me to know, I suspect that the opposite is what's really happening. In order to apperciate the humor in the show, the viewer has to be informed of current events. So, the group is self selecting.

Re:The sad thing is... (1)

Koiu Lpoi (632570) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719563)

That's what I got out of it, that it was because you were smarter and more in touch (and, probably, liberal) that you did watch the daily show, not that the show itself made you smarter.

Re:The sad thing is... (5, Informative)

Zotnix (844035) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719728)

Yes, CNN [cnn.com] has the information. You can also take the quiz if you want to.

Re:The sad thing is... (2, Insightful)

phoenix.bam! (642635) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719374)

This isn't completely true. You have to at least know what is going on to understand The Daily Show. Fox/CNN are a prerequisite of sorts for many of The Daily Show's jokes.

Re:The sad thing is... (1)

JizzMast3rZ3r0 (795762) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719710)

don't forget the best reality show C-Span! but seriously, the daily show wades through all the crap and finds the besy hypocrisy of the day. I see more "real" news on TDS than on CNN/FAUXNEWS.

Re:The sad thing is... (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719851)

thats interesting seeing how he gets most of his material from CNN/Fox news and other outlets like that. He has no actual team that get live feeds from the clips he shows thay all come from other sources and they reframe the storyline to them.

Maybe you should actually watch one of the other news chanels a little.

Other Networks Follow Please (0, Troll)

Space_Soldier (628825) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719293)

That's cool. I wish they gave Enterprise the same freedom.

political bias for a news anchor? (2, Interesting)

Prophetic_Truth (822032) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719327)

John Stewart, while very funny, definatly wears his politics on his shoulder. Stewart speaks his mind and has openly supported one political party over the other. The CBS anchor job requires a neutral position, so that the newscast is not agenda driven like Foxnews or CNN. Dan Rather was actually good at hiding his political beliefs, I doubt Stewart could be as successful.

Re:political bias for a news anchor? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719338)

Dan Rather? Good at hiding his beliefs? When?

Re:political bias for a news anchor? (4, Insightful)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719357)

actually it's better if he's transparent about his political beliefs, that way you know that it's his opinion about things. if it was just hidden, but the stories chosen still with certain bias, you wouldn't figure it out so easily.

and all that doesn't really matter.. it's not like the anchor could go against his employer(and the team behind the news, after all the anchor just reads them..).

Re:political bias for a news anchor? (5, Insightful)

Quantum Fizz (860218) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719392)

You mean the Daily Show line "Where more Americans get their news than any other nationality" didn't clue you in that they're just making fun of the system as a whole?

Have you only watched the Daily Show during the last four years? Stewart has basically been cleverly mocking the hypocrisy of the country's political leaders since the show started. It's been a Republican administration for the past 4 years (and a fully-dominated Republican Senate/House for the past 2 years), so that's where most of his focus goes.

During the Clinton years there was definitely a slew of anti-Clinton, anti-Lewinski, anti-Gore jokes, etc. But when you have a president like Bush who gives comedians enough material without even trying (along with an administration with policies just dripping with potential for satire), you cannot expect them not to pounce on it.

For example, I remember back during the Clinton years they basically showed a bunch of clips tacked together of Clinton saying "I did not have relations with that woman ... I did have a relationship with Monica Lewinsky", etc, showing his hypocrisy. Guess what? It was funny then, and his take on the Bush administration is funny now.

And finally, as Stewart said on Crossfire - he didn't realize that CNN takes it's queues on integrity from Comedy Central. It's COMEDY CENTRAL, a COMEDY channel, not a NEWS channel.

Re:political bias for a news anchor? (2, Interesting)

jesdynf (42915) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719399)

Dan Rather was actually good at hiding his political beliefs, I doubt Stewart could be as successful.

Just because it's viciously slanted is no reason not to trust him -- after all, you know how far to trust him. What's to worry about?

Even someone pretending to be neutral has agendas you can't see, can't know, and can barely even guess at. Pressure from corporate owners? Pressure from sources for favorable reports to ensure future access to the source?

Stewart's /fake/ news show is quite literally the only one I watch. I rely on newswires for everything else. I'd have no more reason to distrust Stewart as a real newsguy than I would any other -- less, actually.

I hope to God that Samantha Bee falls down a well, though.

Re:political bias for a news anchor? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719449)

Give me one single example of this! I've never seen Jon Stewart favor one political party over the other...

Re:political bias for a news anchor? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719496)

here ya go [marketwatch.com]

Re:political bias for a news anchor? (1, Insightful)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719484)

Dan Rather was actually good at hiding his political beliefs

Have you ever actually watched Dan Rather? Especially in the last 5 or so years, he couldn't have been more overtly partisan in both his delivery of the news, and in his editorial/production decisions. I'll leave the pre-election phony document shenanigans out of it - there's plenty of his older material to make my point.

The difference between him and Stewart is that Stewart is much more direct about his preferences, whereas Rather plays coy about it, while, through his actions shows his (blue) colors.

Re:political bias for a news anchor? (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719611)

I think you could have picked a better example. It seems you have forgotten the scandal surrounding Dan Rather during the 2004 election, which I thought pretty clearly showed his bias. Either that or you are laying on a sarcastic joke and no one got it, which I am leaning toward this.

Re:political bias for a news anchor? (0)

JizzMast3rZ3r0 (795762) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719729)

he would actually give some credence to the term "liberal media," as opposed to way it is now (obviously moderate/conservative).

Jon Stewart is not a journalist! (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719343)

To imply that Jon Stewart is a journalist and a replacement for Dan Rather is a gross mischaracterization and sad commentary on the state of news media.

Jon Stewart is a comedian! The Daily Show is a comedy show! He is far from objective although he is hilarious.

Re:Jon Stewart is not a journalist! (1)

needacoolnickname (716083) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719581)

Very true.

The news is no longer the news though. It is the news media. They decided to blur the lines and I find it rather funny that in thier race for ratings they are happy to want to hire a comedian to host the news.

Re:Jon Stewart is not a journalist! (1)

SiChemist (575005) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719678)

This is in offtopic response to your sig. You should check out the spellbound [sourceforge.net] Firefox extension.

Daily Show Rocks! (5, Insightful)

Quantum Fizz (860218) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719350)

The Daily Show is one of the greatest programs currently on American television. Perhaps part of the reason for it's success is that since it's obviously a satirical show, it can press questions many of the other "so-called liberal media" outlets feel intimidated to represent. For example, the Daily Show was one of the first national 'news' programs to publically acknowledge the whole Jeff Gannon [dailykos.com] controversy in the White House that most other media outlets are surprisingly quiet about (basically the White House repeatedly gave a press clearance to a mole, under a fake name, who planted easy questions for Bush to answer, after the heightened 9/11 White House security. This guy w/ the fake name also had access to 'classified' information before it was revealed by either Bush or other staff. Meanwhile actual journalists, like Maureen Dowd [nytimes.com] were consistently refused press passes to White House briefings. This has all been unraveled in the past 2 weeks, like Watergate, with the mainstream press just starting to hesitatingly picking up on it.)

And of course there's this brilliant tidbit [ifilm.com] where he blasts CNN's crossfire for being theater instead of actual news. The best part is when conservative crossfire host Tucker Carlson tries to ask Jon Stewart why he gave Kerry softball questions when he was on the Daily Show, Stewart responded (paraphrased from memory) "What I didn't realize, and maybe this explains alot, is that CNN takes its queues on integrity from Comedy Central. The show that leads into mine is puppets making crank phone calls."

Jon Stewart is brilliant, and since the Daily Show has the satirical factor embedded in it, it allows him more freedom than most other media outlets. And ironically in many cases he does a better job at explaining the news. For example, Daily Show viewers tend to be more informed [cnn.com] than viewers of many other programs.

Re:Daily Show Rocks! (2, Insightful)

Surye (580125) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719389)

And it's the only show I regularly watch on tv. I think you summed it up nicely.

(by the way, I do get "real" news, mostly in the form of reading newspapers. However, daily show provides true insight where one many not expect from Comedy Central).

The Study... (2, Informative)

Caseyscrib (728790) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719613)

The actual study can be found here [annenbergp...center.org] . There was also a slashdot discussion here [slashdot.org] .

Re:Daily Show Rocks! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719626)

Kissass. AND a spammer too.

Re:Daily Show Rocks! (0, Flamebait)

generic-man (33649) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719663)

No, thanks. The Daily Show is fake news, much like the blogs you cite: it's satire with talking heads occasionally brought in to bring the place legitimacy.

You, and Jon on Crossfire, never explained why Jon lobs softball questions at folks like John Kerry and Michael Moore while firing off ad hominem attacks on Robert Novak and Tucker Carlson.

But I really love how Jon deflects any criticism of his show by saying "hey, we're on Comedy Central -- we're all idiots here!" Kind of reminds me about how some bloggers want to be treated like journalists, but they're not journalists because all journalists are biased and evil.

Re:Daily Show Rocks! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719735)

My favorite version of their disclaimers (paraphrasing): "Surveys show that more than half of our viewers get 'most' or 'all' of their news coverage from this show, and on behalf of the entire crew here I'd just like to say ... STOP THAT! This is NOT a serious news show!"

Re:Daily Show Rocks! (2, Insightful)

Skreems (598317) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719861)

Damn, dude... you totally missed the point.

First, whenever someone claims that he takes it easier on democratic candidates, they give examples of A) the worst things he's said to republican types and B) random introductory things like "how are you doing?" that he's asked democrats. They're purposely choosing examples to make it seem more skewed than it really is.

Second, neither Jon nor any of us have to explain any perceived or real slant. Because guess what: it's a COMEDY SHOW!!! They have NO responsibility to be balanced whatsoever! IF they're being unbalanced, it's because they're playing to their audience -- more of the people that watch their show lean to the left than to the right, I would guess. The fact that people try to compare the Daily Show with actual news in the first place is ludicrous... the fact that during those comparisons people keep bringing up the fact that the Daily Show seems biased is beyond critical stupidity.

Nobody has ever suggested that the Daily Show should be treated like "real news" as you claim in your analogy to Bloggers. They have no desire to run "real news", they just want to do comedy and satire. None of us want the Daily Show to take the place of a real news source, and most of us are saddened and disgusted that they can compare in any way. It just shows how badly defective our "real news" sources actually are.

Jon Stewart=court jester (2, Insightful)

edremy (36408) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719699)

There's a long history of using satire to speak unpleasant truths to people who won't otherwise listen. Read up on your Shakespeare (Lear, for example) and you'll see numerous fools who are the only people who can get away with it.

Jon is our court jester. It's truly sad that you'll see more incisive commentary on TDS than on the major news networks. I've given up on all TV news except TDS- there's no point left to the major news programs anymore.

The most telling comment I ever saw on TDS was a short clip of a british journalist grilling Tony Blair about something. Stewart's comment was something like "Where can we get some guys like this?" Lord knows the american media has just given up.

Strange Indeed (1)

BigDumbSpaceApe (749732) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719860)

There is something really strange about the CNN study : There are 6 questions, which if you picked totally randomly you would get yourself 2.75 points. (5 of the questions have 2 choices, .5 points for each for 2.5 points - one question has 4 choices for an additional .25 points for an average 2.75 points out of a possible 6.0)

However, the average score for someone that is not a late night viewer is actually lower than random guessing, at 2.62. I'm gonna have to check the actual study to see why this happened. Maybe this is just a strange statistical thing or the sample size is too small, but im betting that it is another case of great misinformation from the Bush Administration. This wouldn't be the first time that such an effect was shown [pipa.org] . I'd really like to see a break down of how people fared on each question by political party and other factors.

News for Nerds? (0, Offtopic)

Fletch (6903) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719360)

Ok, I like Jon Stewart. I think the Daily Show is funny. But, why is this on slashdot?

I mean, ok, there's been a television category here for a while, but the most recent stories [slashdot.org] were about holographic TV, TV downloading, PVRs and IPTV. There's plenty of "news for nerds" angles to those stories. Did I miss it here?

Re:News for Nerds? (1)

glenkim (412499) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719396)

short (obvious) answer: apparently nerds like the Daily Show.

Re:News for Nerds? (2, Insightful)

/dev/trash (182850) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719662)

he's anti-Bush. That goes over real well here.

Re:News for Nerds? (2, Insightful)

hastings14 (646760) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719673)

To be a nerd requires the ability to think critically. An sense of humor about the nature of the universe doesn't hurt, either.

One of the primary sources (possibly the primary source) of critical thinking and humor on TV today is the Daily Show.

Karma-wise, we're all on the same wavelength....

Jon Stewart rocks... (4, Interesting)

GillBates0 (664202) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719371)

First and foremost, I should link to the last story [slashdot.org] Slashdot ran about Jon, slamming the media's coverage of the election on CNN's Crossfire.

That out of the way, I would like to encourage people to watch The Daily Show [comedycentral.com] even though it comes on at 11pm EST (it also reruns at 7pm EST the following evening). Even those of you who reject it outright as Left Wing BS.

Pause for a moment and try to listen to what the man has to say in as unbiased a way as possible...thinking of him as a standup comedian might help in this regard.

Over time, you'll realize, that he indeed makes a lot of sense. Atleast when compared to the lameass corporate-owned media which the populace considers as mainstream (and factual) news. In his own, sarcastic and comedic way, he puts forth "politically incorrect" news items, which the popular media outlets are unwilling to touch, or willing to slant to suit their ends.

Give it a try. Thank you.

Re:Jon Stewart rocks... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719387)

You realize he has a team of writers behind him giving him things to say, right?

Re:Jon Stewart rocks... (5, Informative)

mythosaz (572040) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719411)

That team of writers INCLUDES him.

If you like the show, read his book. America: Democracy Inaction [amazon.com] is only $15, for god's sake, and anything that includes footnotes like:

"For purposes of this chapter, "people" still refers to white land owners."

...and comments like:

"Until 1920, the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November was known to women as 'Stay Home and Bake Day'"

...can't be all wrong.

Re:Jon Stewart rocks... (0)

Kafka_Canada (106443) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719517)

Sound like a good read for an elementary school student.

Re:Jon Stewart rocks... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719453)

"Over time, you'll realize, that he indeed makes a lot of sense. Atleast when compared to the lameass corporate-owned media "

Wait, so how is the Daily Show not part of the lameass corporate-owned media? It's corporate owned. You just contradicted your own arguement.

Standard left-wing logic.

Re:Jon Stewart rocks... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719543)

Yeah, but MTV networks is the king of lameass corporate-owned media.

Re:Jon Stewart rocks... (4, Insightful)

otis wildflower (4889) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719504)

I think it works best when he's got a writing crew to keep him 'honest' when it comes to covering all sides of an issue. He's not quite so 'fair and balanced' solo. That is to say, he doesn't let his personal sympathies get in the way of a good joke.

I form opinions issue by issue, rather than subsuming my opinion to one particular groupthink tribal mass or another. Finding the absurdity in any situation where it appears appeals greatly to me, and good satire works when it's honest, telling the truth with humor. For the most part TDS is honest and smart satire, whether it's targeting Bush (I mean, I don't love or hate the man, but it's objectively honest that he can barely string two words together in public speaking.. ) or anyone else.

Besides, he'll have rightists on as guests often enough, and he's pretty fair. He won't usually go for the easy jabs, as a recent interview with Mike Mills demonstrated.. His interviews tend to be more thought-provoking, given that he'll engage his guests in some serious questioning, and I'd call it 2/3rds BookNotes with only 10% of the dryness.

I consider TDS mandatory viewing, and I only wish there were more of it.

I don't think Stewart would be a smart replacement for a network anchor like Rather though, I think he needs a guest to discuss things with, I think he'd do better as a George Stephanopoulous replacement.

That's cool... (-1, Offtopic)

spiritraveller (641174) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719446)

why am I reading this on Slashdot?

Re:That's cool... (1, Offtopic)

srini91 (859711) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719574)


Perish the thought.
I've heard enough of :
  • "Google is good, Microsoft is bad"
  • "We're hypocrites."
  • "Wifi is going to change or change the world."
  • "New Linux desktop released."
  • "Global warming: fact or fiction?"

Yet, I still keep reading...
It's nice to have monkey-controlled robots and Jon Stewart to break the cycle?

More Nerdier every day! (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719520)

This is sooooooo non-mainstream!

Talk about nerdie loners... thank goodness we have Slashdot as an alternative to popular culture.

(-5 Sarcasm)

Uh huh (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719550)

Like, has anyone else noticed that when The Daily Show's correspondents report "from the field," it looks like in-studio video effects? Yeah. Bad in-studio video effects.

This guy's a little slow

Well... about time... (1)

Zotnix (844035) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719624)

We all know that Jon Stewart is all about bringing back integrity to the news. Just look at The Daily Show, now that's a show based on good, sound, family values!

Who the fuck... (2, Funny)

uhlume (597871) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719636)

Is Dan Rathers?

Mod up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719727)

I just noticed that :)

Remember? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11719711)

Remember when that tall blonde asshole was the host of the daily show? I mean, back then people thought it was a really good show. And when he quit and Jon Stewart was the new guy everyone was like "who the fuck is Jon Stewart? Oh, no, the show is going to die."

Guess what bitches?

Re:Remember? (2)

jay-be-em (664602) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719766)

I had already been a fan of Jon Stewart for some time before he took over the chair at The Daily Show; but I must admit, it took him and the writing staff a year or so to become consistently funny. The show was often painfully bad for the first season.

And the Obvious Question is... (4, Funny)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 9 years ago | (#11719795)

where is a reliable source of Daily Show torrents?
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