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UK Leads in TV Show Downloading

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the they-beamed-it-through-me dept.

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dirutz writes "Britain has emerged as the world's biggest market for downloading pirated TV, with Australia being the second and the U.S. sitting at third. Among the top pirated TV shows, '24' ranks the first. 'The Simpsons,' 'Enterprise,' 'Stargate SG-1' and 'Battlestar Galactica' are also among the top hitters." 'Pirated' seems a strong word, at least for watching those programs which have been beamed (unencrypted) through my body. Where can I pay a quarter per show for moderate-quality, sanctioned torrent files?

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First dup! (1, Insightful)

darkonc (47285) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727451)

Can I call it????
(sigh)

Re:First dup! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727468)

There have been several recycled articles this weekend.

Maybe the liberals that run slashdot should ease up on the Mary Jane and get back to work.

Re:First dup! (1)

akeyes (720106) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727477)

yep, here is the link to the other: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/18/032423 8&tid=129&tid=95

Re:First dup! - We've been Farked (1)

GomezAdams (679726) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727552)

Not only a dupe but trails fark.com... again. WOnder if submitter is cross posting?

Timothy Leads Slashdot in Duplication (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727614)

Somebody remind me of that in a day or so.

Re:First dup! (1)

drgonzo59 (747139) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727656)

In other news, Slashdot leads in posting of duplicate stories on it front page. Apparently after a huge cosmic explosion the British downloaders have mutated, and now using just their mind power they can beam duplicate news postings onto the Slashdot webservers.

FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727453)

Frist PROST!!!!

Re:FP (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727461)

Wasn't this here before?

A Quarter A Download (1)

wynand1004 (671213) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727457)

I second that motion. I would gladly pay a quarter for a tv show download. DRM or not, just let me see it!

Re:A Quarter A Download (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727494)

Why pay a quarter when you already get it for free!?

Re:A Quarter A Download (1)

bersl2 (689221) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727534)

I'd pay a quarter. I don't think they'd charge a quarter. For instance, a season's boxed set of SG-1 seems to go for more than $50.

Re:A Quarter A Download (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727591)

And I'm not willing to pay that. I am willing to pay a quarter.

A Quarter A Download-Econ major. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727565)

"I second that motion. I would gladly pay a quarter for a tv show download. DRM or not, just let me see it!"

Help!! Oh, help!! How many quarters will go into a million dollar TV episode?* Is there really that many people on the planet who like Law and Order?

*Help!! Oh, help, again!! Just what is this capi-tal-ism that everyones talking about?

Re:A Quarter A Download (1)

qurk (87195) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727579)

A couple of thoughts on that. Say you could download the tv show..would the quarter make up to the advertisers that you're not watching their commercials? Commercials do make a good time to hit the restroom, fridge, go outside to smoke, so often people don't catch them anyways. Also, if you paid the station a quarter...that's a quarter they wouldn't have gotton if you just watched it without commercials. I'm with you, a quarter almost seems too much (unless you don't have the option of watching it without commercials). After all, that's kindof the way that radio stations and tv works, it's free, but they play 2 songs then 10 minutes of commercials :)

They're doing so well.. (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727458)

... that they're now beating out the UK [slashdot.org] as well!

Dupeity Dupe! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727459)

You're on a roll today!

tacky (1)

slumpy (304072) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727460)

...Because there's a tax on TV mate!!

tacky-Culture shlock. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727506)

" ...Because there's a tax on TV mate!!"

Yeah! And you get a wonderful BBC out of it too. Or did you all just say you'd rather go for what's behind door number two?

I'm sure... (5, Funny)

Michael Hunt (585391) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727462)

...that this show is a repeat.

Lousy cheap networks.

Re:I'm sure... (2, Insightful)

natrius (642724) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727638)

Timothy is the internet's TBS.

Dupe (0)

arivanov (12034) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727464)

Dupe and a lausy one.

The first posting manifested some of the sence of humour for which Britain used to be famous.

I am saying used to be because if you compare current comedy shows like the "Little Britain" with what used to be like the "Spitting Image" the British Sense of Humour is definitely on its way to extinction.

Re:Dupe (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727499)

indeed, become too american.

Re:Dupe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727523)

Um ? the first one manafested itself as blatently offensive ,It managed to insult not the majority of readers from the UK(as most are male) but allot of their Girlfreinds/wifes/mothers , and where i was raised , we can take a joke about us , but if you insult our freinds or family then your not going to make freinds.
Plus its the english that are known for dry witt , in Scotland and Eire/north the humour is Vastly difrent(Seee Billy connely/The show Father Ted) , same as in wales.
This may be a Blatent Dupe , but its a far less offensive Dupe ,

Re:Dupe (2, Insightful)

Atrax (249401) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727546)

1. It's 'sense' not 'sence'
2. It's 'lousy' not 'lausy'
3. So Spitting Image's utter lack of subtlety is somehow 'better' than Little Britain? Wouldn't the better comparison (given the political content of Spitting Image) be Spitting Image and Brass Eye, or Dead Ringers? Or The Day Today?

Define 'The British Sense Of Humour' before you harp on about its extinction, please. For me, the epitome of that has been summed up by the word 'dryness'*. Spitting Image was anything but dry, and as such could be classed as an anomaly. The new generation has taken 'dry' and added 'disturbing', to its credit. Take League Of Gentlemen for instance. Dry and disturbing.

It's evolved, but I don't know you you equate this to extinction, exactly.

* Add absurdity if you like, for example much Monty Python, but absurdity is a comedy universal, IMO.

Re:Dupe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727608)

Hey Keith, why don't you put a deckchair up your nose?

Beam me up, scotty (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727465)

"'Pirated' seems a strong word, at least for watching those programs which have been beamed (unencrypted) through my body."

If they've been "beamed" through your body? Then that means that your VCR has had a chance to "tape" it

Dupe. Again. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727466)

Timothy, you smacktard, stop posting every submission you see.

Duped again [slashdot.org] .

why is it piracy? (1)

mrwoody (856093) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727469)

Can't I record an episode of the simpson with my vcr?

If yes, can my friends borrow the tape from me? Can I do that

If yes, what if I have 1000 friends? is it still legal?

If yes, can I use bitorrent to share the video??

Re:why is it piracy? (1)

canofbutter (843238) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727493)

Reminds me of a Simpson's quote:

Bart: Uh, say, are you guys crooks?
Tony: Bart, um, is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family?
Bart: No.
Tony: Well, suppose you got a large starving family. Is it wrong to steal a truckload of bread to feed them?
Bart: Uh uh.
Tony: And, what if your family don't like bread? They like... cigarettes?
Bart: I guess that's okay.
Tony: Now, what if instead of giving them away, you sold them at a price that was practically giving them away. Would that be a crime, Bart?
Bart: Hell, no!
Tony: Enjoy your gift.

Re:why is it piracy? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727568)

Well, in the U.S. due to the DMCA, you can lend your friend a VCR recording of a TV show but not a DVD recording of a TV show, because the DVD recording is digital.

Basically, what people do on the internet could be considered "fair use", but since so many people can transfer so many high-quality format recordings, those who pushed the DMCA forward decided that fair use had become too much of a good thing in the digital world, and put a stop to it.

There's good arguments on both sides. It's not wrong to view a TV show without commercials, but it would be unfair if a good TV show had 10 million viewers but only 200,000 saw the commercials. It's a matter of degree. Bittorrent is more dangerous to networks if lots of people use it than if few do.

Personally, I think it's more wrong to go after someone who downloads last night's episode of Lost than to download last night's episode of Lost, regardless of the "but it's THEIR show" argument. Yes, it's their show, but that doesn't give them carte blanche to do whatever they want to anyone who sees that show in a manner they don't approve of.

Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727470)

Why should you be able to download television programs for a quarter?

Why do you use the lack of a pay-service to do so as grounds to bolster the implied claim that downloading these files is not wrong or illegal?

Why?-Business Geek. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727496)

"Why do you use the lack of a pay-service to do so as grounds to bolster the implied claim that downloading these files is not wrong or illegal?"

You can tell the downloaders don't have any business sense. Here's a demand and no "small businessman" is trying to meet it. Instead they're all sitting home being effectively leeches. They could be part of the system (legally) and become the middleman. Oh, well. That's why it's suits that are running companies, and geeks just get to sit around and complain about their fate in life.

Re:Why?-Business Geek. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727517)

Two points for the idiot to consider:

1. The networks won't allow a middleman. Where have you been for the last 10 years?

2. The geeks are getting exactly what they want. The networks aren't. Guess being a suite isn't so great, eh?

Why?-Short-sighted Geek. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727624)

"1. The networks won't allow a middleman. Where have you been for the last 10 years?"

Have YOU asked them? Have you even tried?

"2. The geeks are getting exactly what they want. The networks aren't. Guess being a suite isn't so great, eh?"

Funny thing is, the Europeans who first settled America had a similiar mentality when it came to the New World.

Oh yes. As long as you're getting what you want. The well can never run dry.

Re:Why? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727509)

I think he is primarily bemoaning the fact that he is willing to pay, yet no one is willing to sell to him. The networks wouldn't even need money, just leaving the commercials in would make it as lucrative for them as the real thing. And they could even track viewership more easily.

The really stupid thing is that the networks are missing out on the holy grail here: targeted TV advertising. Imagine if you were getting your high-quality, sanctioned downloads (still via Bittorrent) seeded by the network itself. The particular file you got contained commercials that matched your user profile for likes, dislikes, etc. Heck, even just matching your sex would nearly double the productivity of the commercials for advertisers. Getting 5 million men to watch a Playtex ad nets an advertiser $0.

Call it wrong all you want, but some people require laws that make sense.

Not true. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727661)

When I make a Tampon Run to the store, for the wife, I usually recall that Playtex works best for soaking up the Blue Liquid.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727511)

Oh rubbish, story's a dupe...

I'll save this old tired troll for a fresh story.

Go on with your sordid affairs.

A quarter a show? (3, Insightful)

rm999 (775449) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727471)

I don't think they will ever sell shows for that cheap because DVD sales are becoming very popular for TV. Why would you pay 30 dollars for season 2 of family guy when you could download the whole season for 5 bucks?

Re:A quarter a show? (1)

mrbuttboy (460308) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727536)

you are so right.

All you have to do is look at the way no one buys any CDs any more. Or the way everyone still buys nothing but VHS becuase it is cheaper. I mean, who REALLY want to see all those extras that the DVDs have. and better video? Who needs it.

I had a thoughtful,non mocking post. But then I thought,screw it.

Re:A quarter a show? (3, Insightful)

JohnstonDJ (861127) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727576)

I half agree with this comment. It's all about setting a price for the good you are recieving. VHS's drastically dropped in price because you could get far better sound/video quality on DVD, with a whole lot of extra's. (and we were promised that dvd would have a longer life than vhs, but I am really yet to see that)

DVD gave you more bang for your buck, and for that extra bang, you have to pay more. There is definatly still a market for the VHS, for people who just want to see the video, and don't really want the extras and have the superior video/sound quality, and because they dont want this they get the film at a highly discounted rate.

I believe thats why being able to legally download a tv-show for a $1 an episode won't kill the dvd industry because a video clip on your computer, is a whole lot different to having a brand spanking new dvd in your hand to watch in your personal home theatre with 5.1 sound and amazing picture quality.

I also believe that it might fuel DVD sales. I believe this because if it only costs say $1 per show then people might be a bit more adventerous and buy shows which they wouldn't just go buy the dvd of. And if they like these shows, they would like to get all the extra stuff that the dvd gives, and hence go out and buy the dvd.

Re:A quarter a show? (3, Interesting)

MMMDI (815272) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727652)

I also believe that it might fuel DVD sales. I believe this because if it only costs say $1 per show then people might be a bit more adventerous and buy shows which they wouldn't just go buy the dvd of. And if they like these shows, they would like to get all the extra stuff that the dvd gives, and hence go out and buy the dvd.

Exactly. I've got basic cable (ie, no HBO)... as a result, I've missed out on some (supposedly) great shows. As an exmample, I've been meaning to check out The Soprano's, as everyone I've heard talking about it goes on about how it's one of the greatest shows ever, blah blah blah. For a buck a pop, I'd download a few episodes and then determine whether or not that $80 DVD set was worth purchasing.

<insert a similar stance on a number of other shows / DVD sets>

Re:A quarter a show? (1)

Tuxedo Jack (648130) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727566)

Because the DVD boxset has EVERY episode as well as commentary and other extras. I happen to have it sitting in front of me, and damn if I don't enjoy it - enough so to pay for it.

Re:A quarter a show? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727585)

I downloaded the ISOs of the DVDs... after DVD shrink and multiple encoding passes were used to let it fit.

I have the commentary, extras, and I didn't pay for jack-squat.

Re:A quarter a show? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727650)

Wow, somebody actually bothers to listen the commentaries for a syndicated cartoon? I'm surprised it's anybody, and it's certainly a distinct minority who'd be willing to pay a premium for it.

Re:A quarter a show? (1)

morganjharvey (638479) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727602)

We could probably assume that downloaded shows would be both of a lower quality and have advertising built in. Paying a quarter might be a bit of wishful thinking, so let's rephrase the sentiment, shall we? Why can't I download an episode for $1? Or $2? For some shows that might never make it to DVD, this might be a great way to see past episodes (the only example coming to mind would be cooking shows), and the networks can add a bit to their ledgers in both advertising and download fees, and, as another poster said in a different comment, this would allow them to both target their advertising more effectively and also track viewership.

I mean, people pay for porn online, but you can still get DVDs of that too, so what's the diff?

they've all been duped! (5, Funny)

gobbo (567674) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727473)

OK, I'm just going to start submitting whatever story I see on the front page. A delay of a couple of hours for a duplicate story seems to be the going rate.

Re:they've all been duped! (0, Redundant)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727482)

I'm about to do the same, more or less. This is stupid.

Re:they've all been duped! (0, Redundant)

Atrax (249401) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727563)

This is stupid.

The irony! The fucking painful irony!

Re:they've all been duped! (1)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727604)

Am I to assume you're yet another American unaware of the definition of irony?

FWIW, I submitted four dupes and three have already been rejected. (One of the rejected ones and the still pending one are in fact for the same story, which has already been posted twice. How it hasn't already been rejected, I don't know.) I hope they sent a message, but I'm not holding my breath. Sending an urgent email about the most recent dupe didn't do anything either.

Re:they've all been duped! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727569)

Can you believe some people pay money to this shitty website? It's pathetic.

Important Stuff (0, Redundant)

saintted (107928) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727475)

"... avoid simply duplicating what has already been said" Come on editors

And in other news... (1, Redundant)

cloudkj (685320) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727478)

Slashdot leads news for nerds sites in posting duplicate stories

Original (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727479)

"The UK is known for many things, great food, a wonderful climate and beautiful women."

My sarcasm detector must be malfunctioning... damnit, so close.

Not Suprising (2, Informative)

dasheiff (261577) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727480)

This is really not suprising because many of these TV shows don't make it over the pond till a few years after their orginal air date. But of course internet discussion is always my the american dates so if people want to see these shows and not wait years, they need to download them.

Re:Not Suprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727498)

Oddly enough shows like Stargate SG-1 are actually airing in the UK ahead of the US. The season finale of SG-1 is coming up next week (Atlantis is already finished) while the US is about 4-5 episodes behind.

Re:Not Suprising (1)

Spy Hunter (317220) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727609)

Same with Battlestar Galactica. Sky One (the UK's version of DirecTV or Dish Network) apparently is in a partnership with the SciFi channel. The entire first season of Battlestar Galactica was shown on Sky One in the UK before it started airing in the US. So if you're a US watcher, you can download the rest of the season right now! Not that I recommend this or anything.

Not Suprising-Global Mall Rats. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727545)

"But of course internet discussion is always my the american dates so if people want to see these shows and not wait years, they need to download them."

Uh, huh. Is this the best excuse people could come up with? How about if you don't see the latest episode of a famous American Medical Drama; then you'll never save that relative with the nearly incurable disease?

Re:Not Suprising (1)

Atrax (249401) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727598)

sort-of agreed. But how come the permeation is unidirectional?

are USAians downloading british shows (The Office?) pre-US release, or not?

Re:Not Suprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727603)

I'm from Brazil, and if I didn't download some of the shows I like to watch, I would NEVER be able to see them. Most sci-fi ones don't show their faces here.

Of course, I would be more then happy if I could pay a small fee for downloading it.

DUPE (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727481)

dupe Dupe dupe DuPe DUpE DUPe dUPE DUPE dupe Dupe

Simultaneous releases of shows (1)

dleib (556356) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727487)

With easy and cheap bandwidth it is time that we start seeing simultaneous releases of shows. The article is basically saying that people are already taking it into their own hands. If the networks start pushing out the content worldwide at the same time it will reduce this demand.

Simultaneous release [of geek opinion] (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727528)

"With easy and cheap bandwidth..."

Obviously granted by the "cheap and easy" bandwidth fairy. Seriously people just because some of you have something. Doesn't mean the rest of the planet does. Do at least TRY to keep that in mind, before you pornificate.

Hmmm... (0)

sandstorming (850026) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727489)

If you work it out on a captia basis... IE:.. downloading going on per person... Australia appears to be so far out in front its not funny. England has 10 times the people aussie does :|

Re:Hmmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727549)

Um Australia has 15 million people IIRC England has 45 or perhaps 50 million , now that looks more like 3 * the ammount of people
I cant remember exactly the uk i think has 65 Million
So even if you include Scotland , The whole of Eire and Wales in this your still only 4* as many people

Re:Hmmm... (1)

The Original Yama (454111) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727584)

Where did you get those figures? Australia has about 20 million, and the UK has around 60 million.

Quick question (1)

psallitesapienter (809284) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727490)

Do slashdot editors think we're stupid?? It's the 2nd repeat today!!!

Re:Quick question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727593)

OMG YOU BROKE SLASHDOT!

I am totally shocked Aust. is Second (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727521)

With the way that the free to air tv stations have been treating all the good programs like Stargate-SG1, 24, and others lately I am totally suprised that Australia is not first.

Stargate-SG1 is my all time favorite show at the momment, and yet we are a whole season behind. So this week Seven [seven.com.au] have decided to show the first 6 eps of season 8 within 8 days, and they have not shown any hint of playing Stargate Atlantis.

They move around the screening times, and we are starting to get into footy season, so there is no hope of it being in a regular time slot before 10:30 at night.

I hate the fta stations as anything desent gets rubbished and the creators of the shows don't really care that the licencees are just stuffing around with their creations.

Well ten [ten.com.au] is about to start show battle star galactica, and and I am only guesing that it will not be long before start stuffing around with it's airing times.

C'mon USA! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727525)

We must beat other countries in everything! Pick up the pace!

And the reason? (1)

ThoreauHD (213527) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727526)

It comes out there First. Not a big mystery. If Asscrack, Nowhere had the show playing- guess where the show would come from?

It's TV's problem for not distributing over the internet. Problem solved now- and too late for them.

It's not hard to work out why (2, Interesting)

onebuttonmouse (733011) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727535)

We get series weeks and weeks after they first air in the US, and then only on sky TV. Downloading the shows from torrents is the only way you can see them while they're still a current topic of conversation. Also, the UK get gouged on DVD prices (just like everying else!), hey DVD makers, £1!=$1 damn you!

Re:It's not hard to work out why (1)

LaForce (688117) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727586)

Curiously enough, it seems that the UK is actually ahead of the US for SG-1 and Atlantis at the moment. Last week I had forgotten to set my VCR to record the shows when I went for work, so I did a quick search to see if anyone had put a torrent up yet. To my surprise, there were torrents 5 episodes ahead of what SciFi is currently playing, all recorded from SkyOne.

testify (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727538)

it's not whether you'd honestly pay a quarter of a US dollar for a shitty show, it's whether you have the voice to say, haha, I'm not payin', I'm getting this show the easiest way possible, whether it costs me a quarter, or whether I get it for that same quarter and you charge me. Competition is the name of the game. love it or leave it.

Lousy dupe... (1, Interesting)

fremen (33537) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727539)

This is a dupe, but I'll put in my thoughts anyway:

Most of the television torrents I've seen have been free of advertisements. I know those ads are obnoxious, but they're the bread and butter of whatever network you (the show ripper) took that show from. The least you can do is leave them in the file and let the downloader decide what to do with them.

End of thought. Back to my regularly scheduled dupe righteous indignation.

Re:Lousy dupe... (1)

blowdart (31458) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727551)

The least you can do is leave them in the file and let the downloader decide what to do with them.

Why? The network has no way of knowing how many people have watched them via a rip, and thus can't sell space and make money on that basis.

Re:Lousy dupe... (1)

laughingcoyote (762272) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727558)

Many shows I've taped on my VCR have had the commercials going past at a blazing-fast speed with no sound. Seems to happen every time I push some little button on the remote, with two arrows pointing forward.

People have been able to pull commercials out of TV for years. Repeat after me: YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO ACT IN THE BENEFIT OF A CORPORATION. You are not required to pay for something when it is available for free to prop up a corporation. You are not required to leave commercials in which people do not like for the benefit of a corporation. You CAN, but there is NOT some legal requirement out there "You may not, by any of your actions, ever undermine a corporation's profits." And those who call that "theft" can have their corporate overseers. Me, if that ever gets codified into law, I hear Canada's pretty nice right now.

Re:Lousy dupe... (1)

nacturation (646836) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727669)

Maybe you're one who thinks copyright law should be abolished, but what the grandparent post was talking about is this: If you're going to violate copyright laws (put up a torrent for a show that you grabbed off of TV) then at the very least you could leave the commercials in.

It's not about helping a corporation. Given that ripping the show and putting it up for downloads is a violation of that corporation's copyright as it is, why not balance the bad with a bit of good? Or do you figure that if you're in violation of the law anyway, you might as well go all out and remove any possibility that at least some benefit could be derived from it?

Re:Lousy dupe... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727620)

In principle I agree, but in reality I think that ads are not only obnoxious, but they fry people's brains and attempt to convert them into consumer zombies (neeeeed pepppppsiiiiii). The reason why I download my shows is so I can skip the ads. I know I am ripping off the networks, but I don't care because I hate the system.

I would rather pay to watch good quality TV than watch 10 minutes of ads for every 20 minutes of actual TV, which is a loose term considering all the product placements I must endure. Meanwhile, because that option does not exist, I have no moral qualms with downloading my TV shows. I do not have a nielsen box so no one is adversely affected, and my mind is relatively free of the commercial-cluttered crap that plagues the TV waves.

Re:Lousy dupe... (2, Insightful)

SetupWeasel (54062) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727649)

Am I the only one who loves finding ads on an old tape? The ads are kind of annoying now, but if you look back in 5 years they will be entertainment.

Re:Lousy dupe... (2, Insightful)

boingyzain (739759) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727668)

Doesn't really make sense, and the reason for that is two fold.

One, the networks would make no money off of ads posted in those rips online. If anything, the ad providers would be annoyed at the fact that their ad is in pirated works.

Plus, those ads are targetted at a specific location. Each local channel of CBS/FOX/ABC/ETC has different ads for the exact same show. The advertisers in New York don't want their ads to be seen all over the US, so including commercials in online rips could potentially turn away prospective advertisers.

Secondly, the people posting the rips online, and most of the people watching them, don't care about their network making money. If they did, they would watch the show when it came on. Removing ads from the online rips makes the release groups look better and the leechers happier.

It's pointless to keep commercials in online rips.

British killed Trek, eh? (0, Troll)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727547)

If all those brits would have paid for Trek instead of pirated it, then it might not be scheduled for cancellation. Bottom o' th' morning to ya.

Re:British killed Trek, eh? (1)

istewart (463887) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727615)

There's the problem of convincing them to pay for it...

Slashdot leads in duplicate article posting! (2, Funny)

Beek (10414) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727554)

It's true!

I read it on another site... Except THEY ONLY POSTED THIS FACT ONCE!

too true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727555)

"Where can I pay a quarter per show for moderate-quality, sanctioned torrent files?"

Word.

I mean WTF MPAA (or whoever is whinging about this)? Hell, you can even leave the ads in the stream if you want.

Yeah? (1)

agildehaus (112245) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727572)

and Slashdot leads the world in dupe posting [slashdot.org] .

Slashdot Leads World in 'Dupe (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727573)

from the they-Duped-it-through-me dept.
dirutz writes "Slashdot has emerged as the world's biggest market for Dupeing Storys with Mirrordot being the second and the coral cach. sitting at third. Among the top duped storys, Uk pirates' ranks the first. Linux TCO,' 'Windows security holes,and 'EFF endangerd Gadjets ' are also among the top hitters." 'Dupe' seems a strong word, at least for watching those Storys which have been beamed (unedited and unchecked) through my Slashdots editors. Where can I pay a quarter per Dupe for moderate-quality, sanctioned Dupe storys

Re:Slashdot Leads World in 'Dupe (1)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727619)

from the they-Duped-it-through-me dept. dirutz writes "Slashdot has emerged as the world's biggest market for Dupeing Storys with Mirrordot being the second and the coral cach. sitting at third. Among the top duped storys, Uk pirates' ranks the first. Linux TCO,' 'Windows security holes,and 'EFF endangerd Gadjets ' are also among the top hitters." 'Dupe' seems a strong word, at least for watching those Storys which have been beamed (unedited and unchecked) through my Slashdots editors. Where can I pay a quarter per Dupe for moderate-quality, sanctioned Dupe storys

Lord save us from editors' comments (2, Insightful)

Anomalous Cowturd (673181) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727588)


'Pirated' seems a strong word, at least for watching those programs which have been beamed (unencrypted) through my body.

No, 'pirated' doesn't refer to recording them, it refers to posting them on the Internet for anybody to download. I would think the difference was obvious.

The standard meaning of the word is "distributing copyrighted material without permission" (for instance, here [hyperdictionary.com] ). Regardless of your position on this issue, you have to agree that the definition applies here.

And yes, it's a strong word. It's a newspaper headline. What do you expect?

WTF - Battlestar Galactica (2, Informative)

BWS (104239) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727590)

why would UKers be downloading Battlestar Galactica? it airs for them 3 months before us..

Re:WTF - Battlestar Galactica (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727643)

No, it hasn't aired on anything other than satellite/cable at all. And not all of us can get satellite dishes put up or cables run in to where we live, even if we did want to fork out for it.

Re:WTF - Battlestar Galactica (3, Interesting)

cfuse (657523) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727654)

speaking from AU, I'm glad that the UK folks made it available - I never would have been able to see such an excellent series otherwise.

The networks here don't give a damn about the viewers and seem to change a show's timeslot every five minutes. Who's got the time to chase the network around to see the shows they want? At least this way I get to see the show on my terms.

Re:WTF - Battlestar Galactica (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727660)

Because it's free and they want to own a copy? Why the fuck do you think?

Re:WTF - Battlestar Galactica (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727665)

On Sky yes. Sky is a satellite service just like Voom with their own channels (Sky One, Sky Mix etc) so only those that have this service are able to watch Battlestar. Not everyone do you know...

OK /. is yanking our chain (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727601)

Surely it's a joke, an early April fools. Repeat story after repeat story...they are having a laugh!?
Right ???

I'm one of these people (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727622)


I see no sense in waiting for the shows to come over here. I download them and keep them for a season and them delete them. I use to stock pile them and serve them to anybody else, but its risky stuff now what with the lawsuits.
I see a future where the networks will have to come together and release these shows at the same time around the world. One because there will be less rips and second. Cinema, DVD and Music is normally released worldwide these days as well anyway.
This also helps my schedule since I don't have time to a program at the same time each week (kinda hard anyway since I have no TV), I'd rather download it and watch it at my leisure. The power of the internet at work.

I'm one of these people-Tivo's buggywhip model. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727676)

"This also helps my schedule since I don't have time to a program at the same time each week (kinda hard anyway since I have no TV), I'd rather download it and watch it at my leisure. The power of the internet at work."

Well I guess that explains Tivo's "failed business model" then.

Here's a REAL topic for discussion (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727629)

First Michael now Timothy. (-1, Offtopic)

kamapuaa (555446) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727631)

Slashdot already got rid of Michael, who was crazy but slightly entertaining in a at-least-he-isn't-my-neighbor sort of way. Timothy can't edit for shit, why not get rid of him as well? I doubt he has a single defender.

It's been all of half a day since he posted his last dupe story - the original story was on the front page at the time. It's obvious he doesn't care.

This just in! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11727651)

Slashdot is the world's biggest market for duplicate stories.

Maybe Networks Should Post Their Shows? (2, Interesting)

kakos (610660) | more than 9 years ago | (#11727655)

If networks posted their shows, with the ads intact and maybe a few extra, I'd download it in a heartbeat. It'd sure beat the hell out of finding a torrent (especcially with the sudden lack of good torrent directories). Sure, I can fast forward through commercials, but I could do that if I used TiVo or if I recorded it.
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