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Was the Mac mini Intended to Have an iPod dock?

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the sure-why-not dept.

Technology (Apple) 404

RMH101 writes "Was the Mac mini originally designed to have an integrated iPod dock? The Register has an article that appears to suggest it was. This opens up the option of homebrewing your own dock into a mini for yourself..."

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Hmmm.... (-1, Redundant)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 9 years ago | (#11812991)

Given this capability...I wonder how difficult it would be to mod your MiniMac yourself to put that dock in...

Re:Hmmm.... (3, Insightful)

Goodl (518602) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813001)

I doubt anyone would, I mean what does a doc cost versus the cost of replacing your Mac if you fsck it up

Re:Hmmm.... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813030)

Slashdotters don't care about screwing perfectly good things up. Look at all the dissection topics!

Re:Hmmm.... (2, Interesting)

troon (724114) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813004)

Or in other words:

This opens up the option of homebrewing your own dock into a mini for yourself...

Re:Hmmm.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813240)

While the grandparent post was absolutely retarded, how can the parent be insightful for doing nothing but quoting the summary?

Re:Hmmm.... (3, Insightful)

slimak (593319) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813009)

the real difficulty would be maintaining the smooth look of the mini... nothing like a jagged hole to keep the minimalists happy. A dock could be cool for all the ipoders out there.

Re:Hmmm.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813172)

Buy a pink Dell.

Not quite as gay, but at least it has more CPU-power and less noise than the minimac piece of shit.

Re:Hmmm.... (1)

Derek Pomery (2028) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813305)

Simple. Just have a cover matching case material colour that is pushed out of the way when you plug the iPod in.

Redundant? (-1, Flamebait)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813094)

I'm the first post, and my post is 'redundant'?

Well done, moderators.

Re:Redundant? (-1, Offtopic)

Reignking (832642) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813128)

Maybe by the same person that modded my unmodded post (in another thread) "Overrated"...

Re:Redundant? (2, Interesting)

brienc (198804) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813204)

I think in this case it was redundant with the article description. From what I can see.

Re:Redundant? (5, Funny)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813211)

I'm the first post, and my post is 'redundant'?

In fact, the moderator was correct -- you managed the rare feat of an entirely redundant first post. Particularly impressive given that the blurb is only three sentences long!

Re:Redundant? (0, Redundant)

bonch (38532) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813228)

From summary:

This opens up the option of homebrewing your own dock into a mini for yourself...

Re:Redundant? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813265)

Of course the summary didn't mention how difficult it would be, so there was something extra in the first post. Considering you'd need to solder a resistor and voltage thingy, and then dissect an existing iPod connector, and then make sure it is secure in the case, and mod the lid in a decent manner ... hmm - this means it isn't an option for most people.

Re:Redundant? (0, Offtopic)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813322)

Thank you. That's what I was getting at...I was looking to talk about the relative difficulties in pulling off such a mod job. I agree that if my first post was 'Gee whiz, I bet you could mod your own minimac!', then it should have been modded down as Redundant, if not outright Retarded.

Re:Redundant? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813294)

Yes, it was completely redundant. I'd guess that you not only didn't RTFA, you didn't even read the fine summary. That's what you get for replying to a headline. And no, your post complaining about the moderation isn't "Interesting", or even "Funny". Although the latter could give your karma a good hosing if someone wants to spend some time modding it down where it belongs (-1, Offtopic and Overrated).

Re:Redundant? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813306)

You should try to get first post when this story is duped. If you get modded redundant again, it might just open up a dimensional rift and allow the Holy Attack Fleets of Morblark-thuley-flappity-thonk to enter this realm at last. Bwa ahahhaahh ahhahaaahahah aahha!!!!!

Cough.

Re:Redundant? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813324)

Cough.

You forgot the "Turn your head and..." part.

Re:Hmmm.... (-1, Offtopic)

Mr. Cancelled (572486) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813097)

Off topic, but how is it that lately, the first posting of a message thread gets rated down as redundant? It's not a repeat of a previous post if it's the first...

Perhaps a better option would be to add a new rating of "Obvious", for when someone's posting something that the article obviously implies? Redundant seems... misleading, when used this way.

Re:Hmmm.... (0, Offtopic)

sidepocket (817256) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813208)

Where do you think you are? Fark?

Re:Hmmm.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813244)

As Otter noted, the post was completely redundant to the story itself. Monkey-boy managed the rare (and utterly clueless) feat of a redundant first post.

or perhaps.... (0, Redundant)

dhbiker (863466) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813014)

the mac mini 2 is intended to have an ipod dock.

Mac Mini was originally intended to have (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813102)

a burrito and soft drink holder, but the little Taco Bell dog held out for too much royalties.

Re:or perhaps.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813108)

the mac mini 2 is intended to have an ipod dock

You mean the ipod2 will have a mac mini dock!

Re:or perhaps.... (0, Offtopic)

porcupine8 (816071) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813321)

In Soviet Russia... ... never mind.

iPod dock for next gen of Sawtooth G4 (4, Insightful)

Lev13than (581686) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813250)

or perhaps... the mac mini 2 is intended to have an ipod dock.

This got me thinking - my Sawtooth G4/400 has an internal Firewire port [lowendmac.com] . Clearly, the designers intended the next generation of G4s to have integrated iPod docks.

It's not uncommon for features to get added early in the mobo manufacturing process because it's cheap and relatively simple. This is probably an example of Apple doing a CYA 12 months ago and then abandoning the idea (whatever it was - dock or something else).

Makes sense (3, Insightful)

ceeam (39911) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813015)

I want Mac Mini. I do not want iPod. As far as I am concerned Apple made a right decision.

Re:Makes sense (4, Interesting)

slimak (593319) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813039)

Making it an option would be nice for people that want it. Add the integrated dock for $50 or something.

Re:Makes sense (4, Funny)

Leo McGarry (843676) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813332)

It's $40, and we're translating "integrated" as "it plugs in."

Re:Makes sense (1)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813058)

I prefer the combination of powerhouse PC + iPod. The dock can be purchased as a separate accessory anyways.

Re:Makes sense (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813083)

Of course, if Apple did it the other way, they still would have made a right decision.

already been done... by me.. (4, Funny)

l4m3z0r (799504) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813018)

See, I took my dock, firewire cable and plugged it in to the Mini.

Pretty leet huh, I'm about to submit it as a full fledged story to /.

Look for me in the dupe.

Homebrew Cases (5, Insightful)

BlueThunderArmy (751258) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813024)

Given some of the homemade cases I've seen, I suspect tinkering with the Mac Mini to give it an iPod dock would make it a bit less "mini" and considerably less stylish.

Re:Homebrew Cases (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813161)

Stylish? My lunch box looks more stylish than a Mac Mini.

Re:Homebrew Cases (-1, Offtopic)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813203)

Isn't that sweet? Your mom is still packing you lunches. Let me guess: 'Starwars with Luke and R2D2' on the front?

Re:Homebrew Cases (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813292)

No, your mom still packs me a brown bag.

The Register? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813038)

Why do we still listen to The Register?

I may be easily asmused... (5, Funny)

Digital Warfare (746982) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813046)

But did anyone else notice the convientley placed R2 and D2 ?
It would a good to have this dock as optional, but that will be in the next flurry of updates?

Re:I may be easily asmused... (0)

klang (27062) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813104)

there is a C3, but the PO seems to be missing!

A simple "dock cover" and some connections inside would do the trick!

Re:I may be easily asmused... (4, Funny)

Ironsides (739422) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813220)

But did anyone else notice the convientley placed R2 and D2 ?

Hmm.. They are planning on having an option where you can order repair droid with your Mac Mini!

it wont be long... (-1, Troll)

L1nux_L0ser83 (860647) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813048)

before someone hacks a mod to make it work...Apple has not been too good at hiding its secrets latley huh!

Flexibility is good (2, Interesting)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813050)

While I think it's a good idea to add a "simple" feature like that, it might not be useful if the mini is just sitting on the middle shelf of a home theater system.

Re:Flexibility is good (4, Insightful)

DenDave (700621) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813133)

If it it is to be a "shove-in" dock then it would be a bit nonsensical and un-aesthetic, imagine a mini with a white ipod dangling out of its left side..

Nah..

An extra connector is always a charm but a slot for your pod? hrmm.. considering future changes to the form of the ipod I wouldn't go there. The 60gb is thicker than the 40 and the pod mini... ugh just forget about ok? fugeddabaatit ok?

Who cares? (0, Flamebait)

JohnGrahamCumming (684871) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813062)

eom

Good thing Apple changed their mind (2, Insightful)

hcdejong (561314) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813065)

or we would have had YA device with a non-flat top surface (ie nonstackable).

Re:Good thing Apple changed their mind (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813098)

Not necessarily. What if it slid in parallel to the shelf, a-la old school NES carts? I think that'd be pretty slick.

I should really register one of these days...

Re:Good thing Apple changed their mind (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813130)

You're not supposed to stack them anyway, because it interferes with the optical drive on top and the cooling system on the bottom.

Not an iPod doc (5, Insightful)

Fished (574624) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813066)

I don't think this was for an iPod dock. This guys is basing that conclusion on the fact that it's got firewire connectivity. But we should recally that Firewire was originally mostly used for video connectivity, not iPods, and Firewire is still more-or-less the standard for connecting video cameras and tuners digitally. The logical conclusion is that this bus is not here to support an iPod, but some sort of video hardware ... like, say an HDTV tuner card?

This ties in nicely to the way that the mini seems tailor-made to be a media-center PC. If some sort of tuner card were plugged into this slot (say in a "Mac Mini Media-Center Edition" or something) you could plug a mini into your TV and be basically set with the ultimate convergence box.

That's my opinion, anyway. Be looking for a Media Center version of the Mini soon.

Re:Not an iPod doc (1)

ghoti (60903) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813106)

Be looking for a Media Center version of the Mini soon.
I'm not holding my breath [slashdot.org]

Re:Not an iPod doc (0)

Reignking (832642) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813151)

Plus the fact that the new IPods are lacking Firewire, too...

Re:Not an iPod doc (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813170)

They have Firewire on the connector, they just don't have a Firewire cable in the box. That's it.

Re:Not an iPod doc (3, Informative)

cybercyph (221022) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813178)

not lacking firewire support-- the ipod end of the connection is agnostic, a proprietary dock connector. Ipods are now coming with only the USB 2.0 cable-- no doubt to increase profit margins. All new macs come with USB 2.0 support, as do the majority of PCs, whereas many PCs do not come with firewire support.

Re:Not an iPod doc (2, Informative)

troc (3606) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813207)

Erm, wrong. The new iPods are lacking a Firewire cable. That's all. The functionality is still there. It's a cost-cutting measure, USB 2.0 is ubiquitous and therefore they include that cable. You want to connect with Firewire, no problem, just get the FW cable (and/or dock)

Troc :)

You're mixing up your 'pods. (2, Informative)

argent (18001) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813216)

The only iPod-branded device lacking firewire is the iPod Shuffle. The new Minis have firewire, they just aren't bundled with a firewire cable.

Re:You're mixing up your 'pods. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813288)

well, yes and no. the iPod Shuffle does in fact come wit support for firewire, however it does not at this time have the physical adaptability to use firewire.

Re:Not an iPod doc (1)

cybercyph (221022) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813153)

no, that's silly. An internal HD card would not use Firewire, and the mini already has external firewire ports. at issue is the placement of the internal header, which would allow the ipod dock to be placed on the top cent of the mini.

Re:Not an iPod doc (3, Interesting)

Ironsides (739422) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813195)

You made me thing of something with this. Linksys made an amplifier for their 802.11b system called the BSB24. It was made to stack on top of the wireless hub. Here's a link. [socalwug.org] It stacks neatly on top of it and maintains the stackability of the hub. Is it possible this is what they had in mind?

Re:Not an iPod doc (2, Interesting)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813209)

Seems like a possibility. The extra control lines could be used to do things like change channels or even interface an IR Transmitter or receiver. What the MacMini is missing is an display on the front and IR controls.

Re:Not an iPod doc (4, Interesting)

harrkev (623093) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813248)

Neat idea, but I recently read a review stating that the Mini (at least the base version) lacked the processing testicular fortitude to be a full-blown media center. Plus, it does not have the storage to be a server (unless you upgrade the HD) Anandtech Review [anandtech.com] It still has some potential, but it does not seem to be designed for this role (at least without some serious upgrading)

Re:Not an iPod doc (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813318)

You're saying that Cringely may have been right [pbs.org] ?

Re:Not an iPod doc (5, Informative)

Fahrvergnuugen (700293) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813323)

Apple has already reaffirmed that they have no intentions of making a media center:

from MacWorld [macworld.com]

Media Centers and digital video players

Oppenheimer articulated Apple's current philosophy when it comes to "media center" computers -- PCs designed to work in the living room as a component of a home entertainment system, recording video, playing back music and more. While Oppenheimer admitted some consumers may be interested in media center PCs and that a Mac mini might be suitable, he said that "most customers" would prefer to have a more powerful computer in their office or den and leverage wireless networking to stream content to their home entertainment system.

As a practical example, Oppenheimer pointed to AirTunes -- a feature of iTunes that works in conjunction with Apple's AirPort Express wireless networking hub. The AirPort Express features an audio jack that can connect to the home entertainment system using a mini jack or a digital optical cable. Music can then be streamed from the computer playing iTunes to the stereo.

The iPod won't be getting video capabilities any time soon if current players are any indication, said Oppenheimer. Today's crop of portable media viewers are too bulky to carry as comfortably as the iPod, yet have screens he said are too small to enjoy a movie the same way you would on a TV or laptop. "Our view is that they've failed in the marketplace," said Oppenheimer.

Coralized link (5, Informative)

panum (161455) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813068)

Use Coral proxy [coralcdn.org] to avoid slashdotting the poor site [nyud.net] .

-P

iPod Docks (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813069)

Don't the different iPod models have different docks? So you could have a one-size-fits-all dock, but when you put a mini in it, there would be a gap around the edges, and Apple just wouldn't let that happen.

Old news (4, Informative)

white1827 (848173) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813070)

The remnants of a possible iPod dock were found by the initial people ripping them open.

Why the HELL would I want an iPod dock??? (-1, Troll)

JamesP (688957) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813075)

No, really...

Can't I just plug it in? Yes!

Maybe because "dock" is 1337?? You see, I don't PLUG my iPod there... that's SO old fashioned, no, I DOCK my iPod!

How kewl is that???

Sorry it was the price... (5, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813076)

Whether the Firewire feature was dropped from the first incarnation, or was put in place ready for the Mac's next revision isn't clear. However, early rumours surrounding the so-called "headless iMac" that was to become the Mac Mini, did indeed mention an integrated iPod Dock, fitted to help encourage Windows-using iPod owners to switch to the Mac platform...

I'm sorry but what made ME (as a "PC" user) to switch to the Mac platform was the price. $499 for the base model is 100% perfect. I have said it here before (and I am saying it again)... Once Apple created a computer that was reasonably priced I would purchase one and I did.

It's nice that it runs cool, near silent, and that it is snappy for what I use it for (with 512MB) but it's super nice that it was priced right.

I don't own an iPod and I likely will never own an iPod so the iPod dock wouldn't make me switch. I highly doubt that PC users would switch just because of an iPod docking feature.

YMMV.

Y'know, its still about $150 too much... (-1, Troll)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813157)

I don't need a Mac. I would not mind toying with one. However as a few friends of mine have also said the current Mac-mini is still too much.

When it drops to around $349 then I will jump. I know a few others that want a $299 price point. As it stands now its not truly a $499 machine either as you need a minimum of 512mb of ram to have a good system.

As for the extra circuts, look at the iPod Shuffle. The chipset it uses is capable of far more than they make use of. They probably just got a great deal on the chipset/board combination and left it alone.

If anything any costs associated with it are recouped by all the free advertising places like the Register and /. give it.

Re:Y'know, its still about $150 too much... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813254)

"Waah, they didn't make it cheap enough! I want them to make it cheaper! Waaah!" Retard. Pay to play, or shutting the fuck up.

Re:Ha! That's still too expensive... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813261)

When it drops to around $349 then I will jump. I know a few others that want a $299 price point.

I won't get one until they're free inside a box of specially marked cereal.... but only if the cereal is on sale and I have a dollar-off coupon.

Beat that cheapo.

Re:Y'know, its still about $150 too much... (3, Insightful)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813314)

And if it drops to $10, you have a price point some people would STILL bitch about. Seriously, people will always want a price point below that which its currently selling for. Oh, and Ive kept my Mini with 256mb ram, and Ive not had any issues with it regarding speed or memory issues - dont take the 'must have 512mb ram minimum' crowd too seriously.

Re:Sorry it was the price... (2, Interesting)

nsxdavid (254126) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813222)

I did the same thing... when that mac mini came out, I ran... not walked... to the Apple store to buy it. I got the ugpraded version, plus some software: iWork and Motion.

Oops!

I suppose had I looked at the specs closer I could have known, but Motion doesn't work with a Mac Mini. It won't even install. Somewhat depressing, but the graphics card isn't up to the task. And the installer won't let you even try with pokey response, it just doesn't let you install.

I admire Apple a lot. And to finally buy a Mac was a big step. But the mistake with Motion was compounded by the fact that the Apple Store would not allow me to return the software. The reason, of course, was because I had opened it. Nevermind that I didn't even know it wasn't compatible until the install informed me as such. Their web store sure didn't.

No appealing to reason worked with these guys. They were as cold, unhelpful and indifferent to my situation as the most arrogant companies I've ever dealt with.

Somehow I expected more from Apple. It's been so annoying that I just pusehd the Mini off to the side and haven't booted it up since. Having gotten nowhere with the "Apple Store Team" (as they don't respond to emails with their actual name) I just went and eBay'd the software off at a loss, in a bit of a protest auction. For what it's worth.

I still admire Apple for its cutting edge design talent, and astute strategy to capture the market. I think the mac mini was a dramatic step for them. But their customer service at the Apple Store is, in my opinion, completely out of step with what it takes to make Apple competitive.

And it's sad too... because I was telling everyone who'd listen about my jump to Machood. And later, when they came to ask me how my experience went.... that was a lot of sales lost for those guys because they wouldn't do the right thing. Ultimately this may not make a bit of difference in the scheme of things, but it certainly isn't optimal for them.

Re:Sorry it was the price... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813313)

Indeed, that isn't good business tactics. They should have informed you in the store that Motion didn't work on the Mac Mini, therefore they sold you something that was unfit for the task, and possibly you'd want to report them to the BBB or whatever you have in your area.

I'd have returned the whole lot, said loudly it didn't work, see how quick they give your money back when customers start leaving the shop.

Re:Sorry it was the price... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813289)

$499 for non upgradeable computer, thats a steal! Not. Dell is selling 2.8ghz p4 for $550 including a 17" lcd monitor,keyboard and mouse included. Office Depot was selling laptops for that price earlier this year.

That's where you plug... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813077)

...the reality distortion field generator, duh!

I think... (4, Funny)

eobanb (823187) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813078)

...more importantly, I noticed that Safari was using much more memory than Firefox when I had both open. Therefore, certainly we must ask ourselves, "is the Mac mini preferring certain programs over others?"

Re:I think... (4, Funny)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813092)

you mean like the way Firefox uses more memory than Internet Explorer on my Windows box? :|

Re:I think... (1)

youngerpants (255314) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813258)

And Emacs uses more memory than Vi

Word uses more memory than Notepad

Firefox uses more memory than Safari

I think its more likely more due to the fact that they are differnt pieces of software performing (slightly) different functions, written by different people, using different languages.

Just a guess!

Firewire drive? (2, Insightful)

mackman (19286) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813079)

If you read the description, the firewire connection pins are directly next to the connection to the ATA optical disc drive. Maybe Apple wanted to have the option of shipping firewire based disc drives should they become cheaper.

Re:Firewire drive? (2, Insightful)

Jozer99 (693146) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813107)

Never going to happen, because Firewire drives are simply ATA drives with a firewire adapter attached. Firewire is not a suitable protocol to drive a disk alone. Since it is always more expesive to ADD something, that will never happen.

Re:Firewire drive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813309)

FireWire has always been a suitable protocol to drive a disk alone. It's just never been implemented that way.

Realy hope it's a iPod dock (2, Interesting)

Masq666 (861213) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813081)

I realy hope it's a iPod dock to come. If the next mini mac has the iPod dock installed i'll buy one. Read more here [bitsofnews.com]

Oh fucking wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813087)

I mean, how surprising is it that computer hardware often has unused functionality, that with a little work can be used? Like IDE controllers on cheap-ass Internet TV boxes a few years ago. Great for modders of course, not that I'd want to alter a Mac Mini, it looks nice anyway.

Maybe they'll add it in to a revision two Mac Mini. Maybe the back riser is a generic part that will also be used in an as-yet unknown but similar to the Mac Mini device. Woo woo foo foo.

They'd have done better by having a USB port and a Firewire port on the front/side of the Mac Mini. Easy to plug an iPod Shuffle in there, or a Firewire cable for DV applications. But oh no, it would damage the smooth sleek look of the device.

Probably a little internal fight over it (4, Informative)

caryw (131578) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813091)

A great deal of people are buying iPod's these days. If more of them would buy mac's too Apple's market share for personal computers would greatly increase. I'm sure they originally put the dock idea in the low-cost model to attract these windows iPod buyers but the purists at Apple fought to keep the box cheap, simple, and clean.
Also, since I have karma to spare, with I googled for mac mini ipod dock I got a picture of this crazy contraption [hackaday.com] . Just thought I'd share.
- Cary
--Fairfax Underground [fairfaxunderground.com] : Where Fairfax County comes out to play

In other news... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813101)

"Microsoft intended to fix bugs in Windows?" All the signs are there, the half done architecture and comment code stating "To be enabled in Longhorn."

Might have been nixed for esthetic reasons (1)

Alexander Rubio (187698) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813123)

As others here have mentioned, it might have been nixed for esthetic reasons. The innards might have been designed somewhat independently of the case. Could be we'll see a different looking mini later with this feature. I would be a shame to punch a hole through this thing, and I guess Jobs would feel the same way.

Uh oh! Does this mean Apple... (3, Funny)

saddino (183491) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813124)

...is backing away from the iPod? Quick! Someone call CNet!

Only for the brave! (1)

Ooter (741986) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813127)

This opens up the option of homebrewing your own dock into a mini for yourself..." Not quite. Since the Mac Mini was not designed to have an iPod dock in it, adding one on your own without buying an officially licensed accessory is clearly a violation of the DMCA. Is Slashdot encouraging law breaking?! The Horror!

2nd firewire port? Nixed for cooling? (0)

argent (18001) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813165)


This is old news.

There's nothing but vents in the back panel where this would sit. It's possible that at one point they were planning on having the firewire port (or ports) in a second row on the I/O panel, which would have left room for three USB ports.

Well... (1)

winstonmeister (863683) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813188)

This opens up the option of homebrewing your own dock into a mini for yourself..."
Technically, that option was there the whole time, if you felt like doing some extensive surgery. Of course, the problem with that is it's just not very easy to do it on an Apple and not mess up the way the computer looks. But then, real men don't care about that anyway, right? ;)

Yes, But Killed Early On (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813206)

I had the opportunity not too long ago to speak with someone at Apple that worked on the Mac Mini project and I asked the same question as it had been speculated on a lot by the rumor sites. The answer was yes, it was considered early on in the project but killed because they didn't think that it would work aesthetically along with the possibility that it could interfere with the wireless performance of the Bluetooth and Airport antennas that are located on the top of the case.

hasnt the ipod line abandoned firewire? (1)

drunknjew (734994) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813226)

all of the newgen ipods are shipping with usb2.0, right? so....why is firewire linked to iPod exclusively?

Re:hasnt the ipod line abandoned firewire? (2, Informative)

shadowsurfr1 (746027) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813259)

From what I heard, they haven't abandoned firewire, the cable is still available but they only ship ipods with the USB cable now.

Mac Mini + iPod + Tivo? (1)

Anonymous Monkey (795756) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813230)

What would you get if you had a Mac Mini, that worked like a Tivo and could use an iPod to transfer files? I don't like mac, mostly because I like my toys to require asambly, but that combo would be cool enough for me to want one.

I know what it is (5, Funny)

akheron01 (637033) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813249)

Pfffft, that's not a dock, it is quite obviously a Diagnostic Port [folklore.org] .

It will be in the 2nd version of the mini (5, Interesting)

hsmith (818216) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813274)

Apple has the best selling philosophy:

Sell version 1 w/ minimal features
get everyone hooked
release version two with extensive features
profit

look at the shuffle, the chip has the ability to recieve FM, they will add a screen and FM tuner in 1-2 versions to bump sales up. brilliant.

Duh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11813275)

The port is prob for a 7in1 type memory card reader for digital cameras and such!

Two different docks (1)

Enrico Pulatzo (536675) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813279)

The iPod Mini has a smaller dock than the regular iPod, though they use the same connector. However, I'm sure that Apple could come up with something, but I'm leaning towards no being the answer to "Was the Mac mini intended..."

What about a "driveless" Mac Mini? (4, Interesting)

Indiana Joe (715695) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813282)

Replace the hard drive with a docking station for the iPod. The higher-end iPods already come with a bigger standard drive than the Mini, why make customers pay for two drives?

Looks of the mini w/ a dock on it.. (2, Interesting)

hydroxy (863799) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813296)

If you're worried about design and looks, you need to think about laptops and their docking stations. Look at the bottom of the laptop and there are little flaps over the docking connector that gets opened up when you plop the laptop on the dock. Given this basic design + Apple's ingenuity, I'm sure adding an iPod docking station will not detract from the looks of the mini.

SwishSwishSwish... (-1, Offtopic)

WisconsinFusion (781006) | more than 9 years ago | (#11813308)

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