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In Which OS Do You Feel More Productive?

Cliff posted more than 9 years ago | from the most-comfortable-in-finux dept.

OS X 1391

HTMLChecker asks: "I found an article in which the author talks about how she is more productive using Mac OS X. What about the people of Slashdot? Where do you feel more productive, in Linux? Windows? DOS? Mac OS X? Also, what is the best way to rate productivity in an OS?"

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Easy. (5, Funny)

Maradine (194191) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818249)

Also, what is the best way to rate productivity in a OS?"

By the sheer number of FPS titles available native to the platform.

Inversely, of course.


Re:Easy. (5, Funny)

Rei (128717) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818361)

Also, what is the best way to rate productivity in a OS?

By whether or not it comes by default with a firewall that blocks TCP connections to Slashdot?

Re:Easy...Ninnle! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818424)

Ninnle Linux or NinnleBSD would be my choices.

Re:Easy. (1)

lrichardson (220639) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818366)

Cool. I didn't even see a mainframe O/S listed, but, by that standard, they must rule!

Seriously, no (minimal) games, no graphics (apart from ASCII) ... just pure mind-numbing productivity!

Re:Easy. (5, Funny)

qewl (671495) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818376)

It's all subjective-

Linux user:
"Soo.. bored of being 'productive'.. must entertain.. self.. I know, I'll recompile my OS with a test kernel again.. it'll only take.. a little while.. yea.. that's being productive!"

Windows user:
"Soo.. bored of being 'productive'.. must entertain.. self.. I know, I'll play solitaire for the next.. little while.. and then blow up a hundred monsters in Doom.. yea.. that's being productive!"

Re:Easy. (3, Funny)

lardtree (863947) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818456)

Linux user forced to use Windows at work: "Soo.. bored of being 'productive'.. must entertain.. self.. I know, I'll hex edit my explorer.exe and replace every instance of 'Windows' with 'Gentoo'.. and then it will run faster.. yea.. thats being productive!"

MSDOS... seriously (3, Interesting)

EmbeddedJanitor (597831) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818447)

For a couple of reasons:

1)No www etc to eat away time.

2)I quite often need to write and test out code in a test-bed like environment for later inclusion into some other, typically embedded, software. The most productive way I've found to do this is Borland C with MSDOS. I can edit/compile/test small code bodies faster using MSDOS and Borland C than a cute GUI interface with mouse clicking etc. Bummer though when a bad bointer crashes the whole box. Still, a reboot only takes approx 20 sec. I can do almost the same thing under *nix, but it isn't quite as snappy. *nix does same me from nasty ptrs and give better core dumps etc though.

Re:Easy. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818475)

Give me an Amiga 500, Final Copy, and some coke, and I will show Lucas how to write a script.

OS X (5, Interesting)

BWJones (18351) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818253)

To those of us that have either been on the platform for a while (or since the beginning), or have already switched from another platform to OS X, this article will not provide much that we do not already know. However, for those not familiar with OS X, it is a pretty good read. I have used many platforms in parallel for years from the early days of the PC revolution (Apple ][, Macintosh, TRS-80, Commodore, Amiga, Atari, Compaq, Windows) to the later workstations (Sun, SGI, NeXT) and have my likes and dislikes for all of them. Having said that however, my preference has fallen on OS X. It is sooo easy to use, is truly plug and play, is more stable, more secure, has most of the GUI and CLI integration a geek could want as well as a pretty good selection of software that makes things either 1) more enjoyable and/or 2) more productive.

For a long while, I had multiple systems on or under my desk, peaking at one time with an SGI Octane, PowerMac 9600, Windows NT, and a Linux box to perform my scientific work, serve a website, do graphics work and general productivity. All of that functionality now exists beautifully in one OS X machine freeing up considerable desktop space. Also, thank goodness for flat panel displays! I serve a couple of websites up on my workstation as well as use it for computational calculations, a front for distributed computing, writing papers, doing graphics for figures and illustrations, preparing presentations etc...etc...etc...

No other platform offers this degree of ease of use combined with flexibility and functionality.

Re:OS X (3, Interesting)

That's Unpossible! (722232) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818380)

I'm a programmer. I like OS X, but every time I've used it I am amazed that Home/End doesn't work properly. What the fuck was Jobs thinking?

Re:OS X (0, Troll)

Kaihaku (663794) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818439)

Not to mention OS X has a decided lack in the virus and spyware departments that certain other OSes are plagued with. Not having to reformat or reinstall the OS every other week adds a great deal to productivity I would say.

Re:OS X (3, Interesting)

stallard (747036) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818448)

I have to agree that I am simply more porductive in OS X. I admit that part the reason for this is that OS X is what I have used at home for the past three years. However, I do frequently use XP at work, school, and at a few relatives homes so it's not as if I'm unfamiliar with the operating system. To me OS X is simply layed out in a more logical manner and as such I don't have to think about the operating system and I can focus on my work (even if it is just posting comments on /.). I think the important thing here is to use what you're most comfortable with and don't bash anything that you havn't used more then once or twice. We may have different platforms, but we all still read /. Isn't that worth something? ;-)

os (1, Funny)

lardtree (863947) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818256)


DOS? (0, Redundant)

mikeanuzis (592699) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818257)

I feel most productive in DOS.

Re:DOS? (5, Insightful)

dustinbarbour (721795) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818341)

There is something to be said for the command line. I don't have a window manager on my Debian box and I always seem to get done what needs to be done. With Windows, I find myself up until 2am browsing the Internet for random shit. All because its available. I guess that makes me an Internet junkie.. I really should fix that. Anyway.. CLIs make me most productive 'cause of the lack of distraction.

Re:DOS? (1)

mikeanuzis (592699) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818367)

There is a profound difference between a Debian command line and DOS.

Which hat am I wearing? (4, Interesting)

searleb (168974) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818258)

As a programmer, I am much more productive in Linux because I can tie almost everything I do in Gnome (or KDE) to a key command. I don't use the mouse very much (or at all) while programming in gvim or Eclipse, and it really slows me down when I need to, say, launch a terminal or a browser.

As a scientist, where I do most of my work in MS Office, I am much more productive in Windows. I basically have to use MS Office because I need to interoperate with my peers and coworkers. Furthermore, Excel (every scientists best friend), is still far and away the best spreadsheet application and to me is Window's so called "killer app". MS Office for the Mac is still wildly unstable, and although it's an option, it's not a very good one.

As a hobbiest or a general user, I'm more productive in Mac OS X, which sort of bridges both worlds. Because Macintosh enforces a pretty strict interface guideline, all the general purpose apps are easier to use on the first go. This is not really critical for stuff I use every day (as a programmer or a scientist) but is really useful when I'm trying out a new chess app or whatever.

If I had only one choice, I would use Mac OS X. At work I have both a Linux computer and a Windows computer on my desk (it's a pretty big desk). At home I use my iBook. I don't have to make that choice.

Re:Which hat am I wearing? (1)

bheer (633842) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818297)

MS Office for the Mac is still wildly unstable, and although it's an option, it's not a very good one.

Ironic, considering Excel started life as The Mac Spreadsheet(tm).

Re:Which hat am I wearing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818363)

"As a hobbiest"? Are you scientest, too? Hobby + -ist.

Re:Which hat am I wearing? (3, Insightful)

UtucXul (658400) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818425)

Wow, what kind of science do you do? I've seen people in astronomy plot with a lot of things (I'm a pgplot guy myself), but I've never seen anyone use Excel. If you need to do any real plotting (or god forbid actual number crunching, Excel would be terribly lacking. Not to mention that it isn't on the Suns or GNU/Linux machines where lots of actual science gets done (although it is on the OSX laptops a lot of people seem to be moving to).

And, if you do science with any math, MS Office is totally worthless. Latex all the way there.

Re:Which hat am I wearing? (1)

iced_773 (857608) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818438)

I have both a Linux computer and a Windows computer on my desk

I have both Windows and Linux, but I have them on the same computer. Use a tool like GRUB or LILO for a dual boot.

Linux (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818260)

My productivity shoots up as soon as I see a Bash prompt.

Re:Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818351)

Doesn't rule out Macs.

Re:Linux (1)

Rei (128717) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818412)

That just gave me an idea for a new picture to frame and put up on my wall. :)

Duh (1, Troll)

phaetonic (621542) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818262)

This question is critical in all environments, end-user and enterprise. The answer is really another question. What role does the end-user or server need to do? If the end-user wants to simply read websites, check mail, and write a document or two, a Celeron with Windows XP is the ideal choice. If an end-user wants to play with multiple OSs in VMware, terminal service to their house from work, and play the latest games, a P4 with W2K is the ideal choice. If a server is going to perform SMTP/POP3/IMAP/webmail, I would recommend an HP DL 380 G4 with RHEL 3.0. If they want to upgrade their domain controllers, I'd go for HP DL 380 with W2K3.

Any OS (5, Funny)

sport_160 (650020) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818265)

that does not allow me to read slashdot all day.

XP wins. (5, Funny)

tarquin_fim_bim (649994) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818267)

I can open an average of 14 infected mails every minute, click on the atatchments and have them procreating in seconds, without having to save them, make them executable, then fiddle about trying to get them to run under Wine. Match that on any other OS.

Productive...doing what? (2, Informative)

Mr Ambersand (862402) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818270)

In dealing with servers and enterprise applications, I feel more productive with Unix and LAMP.

However, when it comes to office applications or presentations, at this point I still feel more comfortable with Windows - though Open Office is coming along quite nicely.

Debian (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818272)

File Edit Options Buffers Tools Help I've only used Linuxes and Solaris for years; but of them I must say Debian is the most productive for me thanks to apt-get finding every module and dependancy I need; and installing them quickly.

Similarly for servers, Debian Stable has been the most productive since it stays suppored for longer than the commercial OS's and has the fewest upgrades.

(for the desktop I must say ubuntu seems competitive with debian unstable, though)

Not typical /. response (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818274)

I'm actually more productive in Windows, since in Linux I tend to fiddle with things and have fun :)

ask slashdot (0, Offtopic)

Karamchand (607798) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818275)

3rd ask slashdot in a row

karma to burn

Yoo-Nicks (1)

mrseigen (518390) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818276)

I barely even use the mouse in OS X. I get the feeling it's going to waste on me.

I hate to break it to you Cliff (-1, Troll)

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None of the above (4, Funny)

spun (1352) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818278)

In windows and DOS, I play games too much. In Linux, I futz around compiling things over and over and getting my configuration files just right. In Mac OS X I just stare slack-jawed at the purty eye candy.

Re:None of the above (1)

timothv (730957) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818315)

That matches my experience exactly.

Re:None of the above (2, Funny)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818453)

So, in other words ... you're a bricklayer.

Without a doubt... (1)

JoeLinux (20366) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818279)

a 386. Behold, a spectacle of sight and sound (ding!)

Please, invite a flamewar (5, Insightful)

the_Librarian (17089) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818281)

No, really, Slashdot doesn't have enough rabid platform advocacy and name-calling. By all means let's put this on the front page and drum up some more.

Serious research is one thing, trolling for a flamewar is another.

Re:Please, invite a flamewar (1)

winstonmeister (863683) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818389)

And, linking to an article specifically extolling the praises of one user, and then slapping it's logo right next to the question on the front page probably doesn't help anything. And yes, I am a Mac user too. Being fair isn't about personal preference.

All I know is... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818283)

I'm sure that everyone has heard the old saying, "Mac for Productivity, Unix for Development, and Windows for Solitaire". My experience has shown me that at least for my needs, the Mac is not only for productivity, but for development as well. Windows? Well, some things never change.

Favorite OS (2, Funny)

mike5904 (831108) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818285)

Hmm...I don't think I could possibly guess what the preferred OS of Slashdot is. (I would assume the preferred OS of most would be the one they are most productive with) It's not a particular OS has a majority presence here or anything.


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KISS (5, Interesting)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818287)

PalmOS 5. On my Treo 650 smartphone. The total integration, mobility, and preconfig'd apps for specific tasks - along with the dearth of options when things go wrong, except trying again, make it the perfect tool. It's practically invisible, while I'm communicating with people around the world, who don't need to have any equipment more special than a regular phone, or maybe any kind of email or web browser.

Queue (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818290)

Queue the amt of porn d/led jokes.

Depends on What I'm doing (1)

osewa77 (603622) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818291)

- For programming and software development work, I find Linux much more productive. - For traditional uses of a PC - word processing, office applications, even graphics - I find Windows more productive. - I've never used the Mac but I hear it's good for graphics.

Obviously... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818295)

"I found an article in which the author talks about how she is more productive using MAC OS X."
  • It's not like there are any games to distract her.

It depends (5, Insightful)

dretay (583646) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818299)

Personally it is not so much the operating system as the window manager. I use fluxbox becase I like being able to scoll between virtual desktops with my mouse scroll wheel. The advantage of Linux is that you have tons of window managers to choose from, as opposed to Windoze of OSX where you are limited to the one provided.

Re:It depends (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818381)

The advantage of Linux is that you have tons of window managers to choose from, as opposed to Windoze of OSX

Umm you can install X on OS X and use any windows manager you want.

Windows (5, Funny)

th1ckasabr1ck (752151) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818301)

Because it has Visual Studio, which is the best IDE out there (in my opinion, of course).

Re:Windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818339)

Assuming this isn't a troll, I'd have to completely disagree and say Linux/Unix. A bash prompt, a decently configured text editor, and an interface designer can do absolutely anything Visual Studio can do.

Re:Windows (4, Interesting)

Umbral Blot (737704) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818405)

Yes, any operating system that can run Visual Studio will be the most productive. The autocompletion featrure for member functions/varaibles is to die for. Whenever I program in another environement I end up using short and unhelpful names for member variables, simply because I don't want something difficult to spell/remember. Also the integreated help system is nice. Now if only more people tried to incorperate its good features, but for the most part the only thing special about most development IDEs are systax highlighting/auto tabbing/in program compilation/degugging. Sigh.

Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818303)

Linux is impossible to feel anything but productive on. Except maybe Linspire... Macs are productful, but only for creative things. It's the ultimate art computer.

well, (1)

mickyflynn (842205) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818305)

Honestly, when I use Linux or BSD, I spend so god damned much time tinkering with my almost limitless options that I don't actually get anything done. In high school my computers spent more time taken apart or recompiling than they did running and working on papers or anything. The fact that I don't expect Windows to be able to do anything, coupled with the fact that I couldn't even if I want to, change much, I actually use it to do stuff. Of course, now i'm a junior in college and that is mostly papers, im, mp3s, and pr0n. But my computer spends more time in operation than in varying states of broken crap.

BSD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818306)

Sure, Slashdot puts up an OS9 icon, but not even one of the BSD icons.

Re:BSD (1)

Coming soon! (767296) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818409)

I'd say the X is *one of* the BSD icons...

windows (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818308)

When I boot to linux I spend too much time tweaking.

When I use my ibook I spend too much time exploring

When I use 2000 I am at work and just program

Nintendo. (5, Funny)

Eric_Cartman_South_P (594330) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818309)

I have achieved more accomplishments on a Nintendo then anywhere else. Including real life.

I feel more productive in Windows (2, Funny)

MrAnnoyanceToYou (654053) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818313)

Because anything that can keep me that angry for that long makes me produce more heat, noise, piles of hair upon my desk, and sheer nervous energy while wondering if it will work properly.

Macros! (1)

mortram (761154) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818317)

All OS's and software have their limitations. You have to write macros to really achieve a new level of productivity. I would estimate Macro Express has increased my productivity by about 1000%, plus I can work while I'm eating lunch across the street! No I do not do data entry.

Re:Macros! (1)

Moken (780202) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818437)

I agree, macros make everything easier and faster. Back in the day I used a program named MiniMacro that would let you macro the shit out of anything. It's currently b0rked in XP, though =(. When you can open a window and hit Ctrl-Whatever instead of clicking thirty times, productivity sky-rockets.

Linux (1)

cbrocious (764766) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818327)

I'm most productive on Linux. All of the tools I need are either already installed or just an emerge away, I am able to work without things like spyware and viruses getting in my way, and I can run everything I need and more.

In addition, I can use a WM like ratpoison which allows me to work even more efficiently, as well as nest another window manager (usually wmaker) inside it if I need to work with certain applications like The GIMP.

I believe in using the right tool for the job, and Linux is definitely right for me.

Mac OS X (4, Insightful)

SpiffyMarc (590301) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818329)

I use Windows at work, but I feel like my brain spends most of its time processing how to move around in the user interface, which things to press, what to click where and which button to use. When I'm using Mac OS X, my brain works in a more task oriented way. Instead of opening this program and right-clicking on that thing, I'm editing a video, or I'm working on a graphic. It's somehow less intrusive and allows me to focus on whatever I'm trying to do instead of focusing on how to do it.

I believe most Americans would agree ... (0)

sunwukong (412560) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818343)

... producitivty is enhanced in the backseats of CamarOS.

It's true -- I hate myself for writing that ...

OSX vs Linux (2, Insightful)

FLAGGR (800770) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818346)

I jsut got a MacMini awhile ago, great computer. Installed the bsd tools and developer crap, and half a billion other things. Right now linux is much more productive for my programming, but once I learn xcode on OSX im guessing that will change.

Windows For Workgroups 3.11 (1)

esanbock (513790) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818347)

Wordperfect 5.1 meets all my needs and KDE is too slow on my 25 Mhz 486-SX.

Windows XP (1, Insightful)

mOoZik (698544) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818348)

I've been using it since DOS was around. Then 3.11, 95, 98, ME, 2000, XP, XP SP2. The point is, it works for me. I have every software that I need to be productive and the environment just works perfectly with that.*

* CandyColor theme disabled.

I dont use the operating system much... (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818350)

I dont use the operating system much, I use applications.

I hate to say it but Photoshop (for example) is Photoshop, be it on OSX or Windows XP (and yes I have and use both systems). The only time the platform comes into question is when a given app is missing from one or the other.

Where do you feel more productive?? (5, Funny)

hawkbug (94280) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818357)

Where do you feel more productive?

Behind a firewall that blocks port 80 :)

for specific-application tasks, (1)

torpor (458) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818365)

a purpose-built linux system, doing only that task.

if i need to do one thing, and one thing only, i will build my own system for that application .. for that, OSS/Linux/GNU is superlative.

for general-purpose computing, however, OSX is king. the other day i couldn't believe i was playing a consumer game like UT2004 on what is essentially a portable Unix workstation, finally, after all these years ..

Recent Mac Convert (1)

crmartin (98227) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818371)

I'd long since gotten all Microsoft operating systems out of my house, but having hosed myself on email for several days by getting a little too playful (you mean *you* don't play with installing kernel drivers?) I got an iBook for my non-hacking day to day use.

Took a couple days to convert, but it's been pretty much painless since, plus I dn't have to deal with the people who say "what do you mean you don't have Word?"

I'd say for *programming*, give me Linux, or let me install gnu tools on your generic unix. For daily use, Mac's are just fine. My only complaint is that they use the old-fashioned BSD commands (eg sort -k, but not sort --key).

Unpopular opinion (4, Insightful)

FrenZon (65408) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818372)

The funny thing about comparing operating systems is that frequent users of each OS are blind to the failings of their own, and are driven insane by the failings of others. For example, I find scrolling in even the latest OSX to be painful, but I love it on Windows. People get driven nuts by explorer pausing when it tries to find things that aren't there, but I don't notice it and instead go batty when Finder wastes time panning to the right in column view.

On Windows, I have a small set of utilities (notably strokeit [] , trip [] * and remote desktop) that I rely on heavily, and while other platforms have their equivalents, I just don't find them anywhere near as good (remote desktop, in particular).

Now don't get me too wrong - I would rather use default OSX over default Windows, but give me a customised Windows, and I'll take it over any other OS. It's the same reason I use an IE shell (iRider [] ) over FireFox - one may be the technically 'better' solution, but the other just does exactly what I need it to, and lets me do it faster.

I guess my point is the obvious - people are most productive in whatever they're used to, and whatever suits them.

Mac OS X has been a dream come true for me. (3, Interesting)

intensity (118733) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818374)

...especially since I need solid video editing (FCP 4) and I also need X, gcc (for embedded systems design work) and security. I bought my first OS X laptop about a year ago and since then I have gotten rid of everything Windows that I owned. My Mac, honestly, has been the most reliable and usable computer I've ever owned. I don't get involved in the whole DEFEND YOUR OS nonsense, my motto is USE WHAT WORKS FOR YOU, and for me, thats Mac OS X.

Duh! (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818383)

The OS in which you are most productive is whatever OS you are most accustomed used to using! Gee, spend all your time in MacOS, and you're going to be lost in another operating system, aren't you? Oh, and can we stop calling the user shell the operating system, please?

Depends what one does... (1)

Yaa 101 (664725) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818386)

When I am fulfilling my webmaster/programming activities I feel best in Linux as it is most seamingly with the environment that displays my work (internet).
However when designing... must I really go on?
Scribus is nice and also some signs of DTP related activity takes place in Linux, but one has to admid that this is still Mac land stuff if one really wants to be productive, so OSX it is...

BTW they both work great together as well... I deployed several Linux/OSX office networks...

The penguin (1)

JDax (148242) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818390)


"Feeling productive" is not productivity (4, Insightful)

cfalcon (779563) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818392)

A sense of accomplishment is *usually* tied in with accomplishment (especially among us engineers)... but it's possible that if an OS gives you "busy work" so to speak, that you will "feel more productive" using it than another that actually boasts higher productivity. I would *think* this would be more likely to affect the unices, but the abysmal bonus tasks I have to perform in Windows makes me personally feel most productive in Linux, followed by Solaris, followed by Windows. Only one of these OSes has made me dink around for hours because something deep inside broke utterly. I think we all know which one that is. The closest Linux has come is this mysterious thing where it wouldn't fsck the disk while complaining about it, but that was actually my bad. Solaris misbehaves at work routinely, but it's not their happy-joy-love install, so it's probably not representative of the "real" Solaris.

Poll? (1)

Tibe (444675) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818393)

1. Why is this not a poll? I guess thats reserved for important stuff.. or has CowboyNeal not written an OS yet?
2. OSX switching from Windows a year or so ago. OSX is clean looks good and works fast, most applications are built to work with Aqua off the bat.. even Microsoft have given up in Windows Media Player of using their widgets, don't blame them. However it creates mismatched apps. Avalon should clean that up.. Didn't want to wait till 2006 to be more productive though.
3. ???
4. Probably not profit.

Thanks for reading.

Magic 8 Ball (1)

Static_Neurotoxin (141004) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818400)

How else can you measure productivity between differnt types of users...

OS (Old Shag) (1)

Blitzenn (554788) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818403)

Personally I got rid of all of my Old Shags (girlfriends) for a purpose. They made me uncomfortable. But perhaps I would have to say my first OS made me most comfortable. She's married now.

OS doesn't matter, UI and apps do (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818406)

If I'm comparing like applications, e.g. Mozilla across various platforms, I'm more comfortable in MS-Windows but that translates to any environment with the same look and feel, e.g. ALT key brings down the menu bar, arrow keys navigate it, a single key brings up the start menu, etc. etc.

Of course, apps mean a lot more than GUIs, if the app you need or the one you are most comfortable with is only available on ABC operating system, then FOR THAT TASK, the ABC operating system is the most productive. I use at least 3 different OSes routinely.

For some tasks, such as doodling or brainstorming, I find a pencil and paper, or printable-whiteboard and marker, much more productive than a computer. If I need to share my raw ideas, I can scan and email them.

Some flavor of UNIX or Linux (1)

KiltedKnight (171132) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818408)

It doesn't matter which, overall... it's what I develop under... it's what I've been developing under... it's got all the tools I need, including publishing stuff, if you speak nroff/troff, tbl, eqn, and pic.

OS X - Panter Hand Down (2, Interesting)

NoodleSlayer (603762) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818413)

More then just GUI wise. Although there were a number of significant improvements in Panther over Jaguar. Expose and network browsing to name a couple. But OS X is one of the few OSes I've used where I've felt where the command line was just as functional as the GUI. Windows often feels lacking in that respect, not to mention some of the clunkiness found in the DOS/Windows command line over *nix variants.

Although the biggest thing for me on a mac is still a one-button mouse. While most functionality is on the left button, if you plug in a two+ button mouse into a mac you'll find that the right mouse button behaves more or less like how you would expect it to, and not having it makes you feel like you're missing something, even though you can control-click still. Seeing how many mac users hook up PC mice to their Macs now I don't see why Apple can't just start shipping Macs with two-button mice.

Well that's a silly question (5, Insightful)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818414)

First it would depend on what a person does. I'd imagine someone working in prepress would be rather unproductive in Linux, given the lack of tools, but the same would not be true of a PERL developer.

However, generally, people are the most productive in the environment they are the most comfortable in. They know it, understand it, and thus can use it effectively. So Linux people will be the most productive in Linux, Mac people in OS-X, and so on. I'm also willing to bet that any of those people, properly retrained and acclimated to a new OS, would be basically equally productive, provided the new OS provided the same quality of tools.

For most jobs, a computer is just a tool that gets things done. When you get down to it, the OS holy-wars don't matter since most of what is talked about doesn't affect normal user productivity in a noticable way.

It's different than saying what OS is the best technical solution for a given problem. For example UNIX/Linux have a better text-mode remote access soltuion. An SSH terminal is nearly as good as being at the console. Not so with Windows, you need a graphical remote desktop session, there's a lot you can't do command line. Thus if text mode access is technicly better for a soltuion (perhaps bandwidth is extremely limited), then clearly a UNIX base is a better idea, for that factor at least.

But trying to ask which OS is generally more productive is just flamebait. All the zealots are going to say their OS is the fastest/easiest/most powerful and will probably have irrelivant personal anecdotes about how they can't deal with other OSes. In reality they are all different ways of doing thigns, with good points and bad points, and it's mostly just learning one and becomming proficient with it.

Riding a bike isn't a natural activity. You don't just sit down and do it. None the less, once learned and practised, it's literally second nature. Likewise no OS is so intuitive that all people can use it isntantly as though they'd been doing it their whole life, in part because what is intuitive vaires by person. However once you are used to the methods, you can get quite productive with all the majors.

Windows (1)

GoatPigSheep (525460) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818417)

Since I am a programmer for that platform... It would be hard to program for windows using OS X or Linux.

Os X is good for when I want to view my photos, edit a home movie, or browse the internet safely. I have several computers and I generally use the MAC for entertainment tasks (except games of course).

Console mode Linux. (2, Interesting)

crankyspice (63953) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818418)

Seriously. I got more done in five uninterrupted hours of staring at white letters on a black screen (especially now with vi's color syntax highlighting and dangling } identifiers; where was this stuff when I was hacking code on VT220s?) than I ever possibly could in *any* GUI. With a GUI you've got Outlook's siren call (when forced to use Windows) or the Mac icon and it's little red "you've got XX pieces of new mail!" appendage, the effortless ability to click over to a web browser "just for a few seconds," etc. ARGH.

Grab three O'Reilly books, fire up the console, and get codin'! I did cheat a little bit, keeping a virtual console open that I used for:

- `man strncasecmp`
- telnet localhost 1390 (was working on, and debugging, a network app)
- ssh @ for the occasional pine session
- lynx (for digging for sample code when I got stuck)

Just finished a "estimated time: 1 week" piece of a project this morning. Five hours. Console mode.

*That's* productive. ;)

Do you have to maintain the box? (1)

Noksagt (69097) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818419)

A major detriment to my productivity is keeping software up-to-date. It is a drag & upgrading a lot of Windows apps & keeping abreast of all the security announcements & what not really drove me to using the Linux & *BSD distros where upgrades were less painful. Ports, apt, and portage keep me more productive.

UI Distractions (1)

plasticsquirrel (637166) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818422)

Besides the obvious tools, I think that the major differences come from the user interfaces. Extra eye candy and even functionality can become a big distraction to work.

As soon as I'm trapped in a command line, with nothing that I can input except the next line in a shell or file, I seem to become more productive and learn faster without the distractions.

lame rant of a dumb cunt (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818427)

Anyone else notice that this bitch said she's been a professional for 20 years [making her at least 38 years old] and she still uses the term "boyfriend"? For fuck's sake, if you're 38 and not married, that guy that fucks you is not your boyfriend. He is a guy that is so hard up for pussy that he will overlook your awful features and obnoxious personality to bust a few nuts in your wretched whore-hole. Shut the fuck up about your obsession with OS X and go back to watching anime and being a 38 year old loser, you stupid cunt.

Goddammit, can I get a hell yeah to that? Fuck this bitch and her stupid opinions. Come on people, first off - females don't belong here at Slashdot. Second off, if I was going to listen to some tart, I wouldn't listen to a 38 year old. I'd like to some 18 year old with a nice tight pussy for me to stick my 38 year old dick into. Hell yes to that shit my friends. Women should be euthanized when they hit 24 - they have no purpose past that age. FUCK THE WHORES!!!!

I'll probably get lynched for this... (1)

MegaManXcalibur (829621) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818431)

But I find myself most productive in Windows. But the reasoning for that is because the software I need to be productive is on Windows. If all the software I needed had a Linux or Mac version they I could do just as much work on those.

In the end the only thing that really determines if I'm productive or not is the software I need. After all the operating system doesn't really do much in the way of making you more or less able to do your job, it mainly just runs the software you need to do you job.

Why isn't this a poll? (1)

Phat_Tony (661117) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818432)

Umm, wouldn't this make a better Poll Topic than an Ask Slashdot? Is someone going to tabulate all the responses?

You still get the discussion with the poll, but you also get the raw data, which might add something of interest to the collection of posted anecdotes, each explaining where one individual feels more productive.

Are you serious? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818440)

This is the most rediculously stupid article I've seen on here in a while. And that's saying something.

I'd give it a definite: "It depends" (1)

netruner (588721) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818442)

Productivity is determined more by the app than by the OS. The OS will naturally determine what apps are available, but it still depends on what your task is. If you're doing something that is command line shell intensive, *nix will serve you better whereas if you're looking for "off the shelf" type apps, Windoze or Mac would be the obvious choices. I am an outspoken critic of MS, but I definitely get more gaming done on Windoze than any other OS, and the longer I'm stuck running it at work, the more I tweak my 'doze box to provide unix-like functionality.

Whatever you know... (5, Insightful)

soft_guy (534437) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818444)

I would define productivity as the ability to get your work done quickly with the least effort. For any given individual, this will be whatever system they are already familiar with. If that's Windows, Mac, or Linux for you, then that's what it is.

In absolute terms, I think the best productivity would be whatever OS or environment where the tools are forgotten about and your attention is solely focused on the task you are trying to accomplish. I think this might also be tempered by how long it takes to become an expert on the system (and how much effort is required to maintain that status).

Probably command line Unix type environments used by experts who really know the system are the have the highest level of productivity (most useful results for the least efforts). However, it takes a long time and lots of effort to become extremely proficient on the Unix command line.

Plus, comparing them like that is only valuable if you have no experience with computers or else want to maximize your efficiency in the long term at the cost of learning a new system.

Pure Linux. (1)

Pig Hogger (10379) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818446)

No gui distractions standing in the way of getting the work done (when the said work doesn't involve Photoshop or Autocad or Freehand or Illustrator or Quirk Xpress)...

DR DOS 6.0 (1)

Blitzenn (554788) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818451)

That was the best! I was sorry to see them go. Another MS fatality.

The OS isn't relevant (5, Insightful)

sandman935 (228586) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818459)

Who cares what OS you use?

It seems to me that most users choose their applications first and then find an OS that supports them, not the other way around.

Have used many; prefer MacOS X (4, Insightful)

bsandersen (835481) | more than 9 years ago | (#11818461)

I started on 360s and have run the gammut since then. I've worked extensively on LINUX, Solaris, DOS, Windows (all), MacOS since 1985, and many, many more. I can say without hesitation that MacOS X has been the most productive non-programming environment for me.

Development environments vary and, of course, it is impractical to do Windows development on anything other than Windows. But, for development where you really do have a choice, like with Java, you can see a strong gravitation towards MacOS X. In fact, a couple of JavaONEs ago there was such an observation in the daily rag put out by the conference: WHERE DID ALL THESE POWERBOOKS COME FROM?!

Apple did what many said could not be done: making a UNIX that could be used by mere mortals. They put a GUI on UNIX that even covers all the nasty sys admin stuff. And, it isn't just functional, it is beautiful. When you spend 12 hours a day on something, having it be beautiful goes from optional to manditory. JMHO.
-- Scott

At a command line. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818467)

I don't have to point and click. I don't need icons to complicate the situation. I type exactly what I need to do and it does it for me. If I need a GUI I have X. Otherwise I have xterm. That's really all I need.

Combine it with a good shell with tab completion, vi, screen, and a few other programs, and I am very productive.

Any platform that prohibits me to... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11818476)

...access the internet.

Maybe it's a lack of self-discipline, but I find myself being drawn back to surfing every 15-20 minutes or so. Okay, so it's a nice break and it fits in well with extreme programming methods, but I just find I do more with no net connection.
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