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Sony Ericsson Announces First Walkman Phone

samzenpus posted more than 9 years ago | from the all-in-one dept.

Music 204

jonknee writes "Sony Ericsson has announced the first in a new line of self-described "Walkman phones" that specialize in playing music. The W800i features a 512MB memory card to store tunes and up to 30 hours of playback (if you keep the phone off, otherwise about half that). We should see a Motorola phone with iTunes onboard within the next two weeks, making March the month of music phones."

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Yeah... (5, Funny)

Electroly (708000) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829307)

No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

Re:Yeah... (4, Funny)

Stuart Gibson (544632) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829409)

We really need a "+1: Knowledge of the lore of /." modifier.

Stuart

Re:Yeah... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829416)

No wireless? It's a cell phone! Are you really that dumb?

Re:Yeah... (2, Interesting)

fanblade (863089) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829636)

We're all holding out for the iPhone anyway.

Re:Yeah... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829667)

iWouldn't hold my breath if iWere you.

Re:Yeah... (1)

brjndr (313083) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829773)

Ummmmm.....maybe I'm wrong, but I think cellphones are wireless.

First (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829308)

This is bad convergence/what more gadgets for my phone? post

Everyone is getting in the game (4, Informative)

moofdaddy (570503) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829309)

Nokia announced a similar device last month. It had a slight bump in storage, i think it was 768 flash memory. The problem with the nokia version according to early tech specs is it looks like they sacraficed battery capacity more then the other phone companies (moto and ericsson) in order to be able to play music. The coolest feature of that phone though wasn't the music ability but rather the 360 degree rotatable ability of the screen.

The Nokia phone I think is expected to hit in time for summer, there goal was to have it out by beach time so that people would only have to bring one device with them when they beached it. We'll see how it goes though.

Re:Everyone is getting in the game (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829345)

The coolest feature of that phone though wasn't the music ability but rather the 360 degree rotatable ability of the screen.

Now, *that's* a feature I want in my cell phone-- A 360-degree rotating screen, to go along with my camera phone and useless blinking lights.

All the while, I still have trouble finding decent cell service for less then $29.99 a month.

I thought competition was supposed to drive down prices, not increase stupid gadgetry for the glitteratti ...

Re:Everyone is getting in the game (1)

moofdaddy (570503) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829390)

No, competition just means for distractions for the ADD generation.

Re:Everyone is getting in the game (2, Funny)

krakelohm (830589) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829427)

Ya know what? I really take offense to this..... oh man look at the pretty blinky lights.... aaaahhhh huuu... wha?

Re:Everyone is getting in the game (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829649)

Q: How many kids with ADD does it take to change a light bulb ?

A: LETS RIDE BIKES!!!!!

Re:Everyone is getting in the game (1)

Dav3K (618318) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829449)

Are you talking about the 6682? Because that phone has a 900 mAh battery in it.

What about N-Gage? (1)

xtermin8 (719661) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829625)

I thought about getting the NGage maily for playing audio files! It was the lack of flexibility/problems in the phone plan that discouraged me. I hope there's not similar issues with their new product.

All in one? (2, Insightful)

zoloto (586738) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829315)

How many "all on one" devices do consumers really need?

On another note... haven't there been phones like this before? What's their claim to being the first?

http://tinyurl.com/6vq2z/ [tinyurl.com]

Re:All in one? (4, Insightful)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829341)

how many?

1.

that's the point of all in one.

that being said, this thing is pretty lame featurewise. phones have had mp3 players for ages.

Re:All in one? (1)

lowrydr310 (830514) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829553)

The problem is that some of us aren't allowed to take cameras into work.

Besides, the quality of pictures taken with camera phones is horrible and there's no reasonable way to transfer them off of your phone.

What next? - a phone that is a MP3 player, has a 5 megapixel camera with 10x optical zoom, 60GB hard drive, and can play GameBoy Advance games? Better yet, why not make one that plays PS2 AND XBOX games!

Re:All in one? (1)

zoloto (586738) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829347)

to clarify, i misread that as being a first for them. my mistake

Re:All in one? (5, Funny)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829353)

How many "all on one" devices do consumers really need?

The answer is obvious: One.

Re:All in one? (4, Insightful)

jacksonj04 (800021) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829646)

It should be, but my PDA thinks it's a music player and my phone thinks it's my calendar and my iPod thinks it should be my contacts list.

And none of them do them well.

I either want a single device which does them all well, or my devices to do one thing and do that well. I would be quite content if my phone didn't try to offer me a bigger penis in between serving up music...

Re:All in one?...look back 20ish years... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829740)

There's no way that a computer in the home can replace Battleship, teletext and my tape collection!

WRONG (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829806)

The "obvious" answer is one. The correct answer is unlimited. There is a point where you cannot keep putting devices together. It would be ridiculous to make an "all in one" device that is a phone, a camera, a walkman, and a printer. You would need a seperate "all in one" device that is a printer/fax/scanner/copier. So there are two "all in one" devices already. You can see where this is going.

off-topic: I need my phone to make phone calls. thats it.

ptpete

Re:All in one? (1)

NorthernMinx (600563) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829377)

How many "all on one" devices do consumers really need?

Only one.... but a good one!

Re:All in one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829515)

Well, it depends on who you are marketing too.

I don't need a PDA so I won't be buying one for the MP3 player.

I do want a MP3 player however, but that's _another_ thing to carry around. I already carry a cellphone, if they are able to put a MP3 player into a cellphone ... well then that is just the sort of thing I'd buy. The less I have to shove in my pockets the better.

Here is what I currently want in a cellphone:

1) Phone.
2) MP3 player.
3) General flash storage (like a USB key)
4) Calendar (linked to PC)
5) Contacts (linked to PC)

If it has a decent digital camera - that might come in handy as well. I think they are almost there.

Re:All in one? (1)

Bake (2609) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829828)

The W800 can read and write to a Memory Stick.

Re:All in one? (1)

BeerCat (685972) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829523)

Think of it this way...

A VAIO (or similar) with built in camera, running Skype over WiFi (etc, etc) would be an all-in-one. Would you be happy with just the one? Of course not!

Therefore, the number of all-in-one devices is "as many as they can persuade you to buy" - Camera with extras, Phone with extras, MP3 player with extras, PDA with extras...

Re:All in one? (4, Insightful)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829599)

How many "all on one" devices do consumers really need?

'Single Point of Failure' comes to mind. I.e. it does everything for you and either dies or the battery runs out and your alone in the Wilderness of the Non-Conntected. Like those goofy cartoons from years ago that said things like, "The computers all were down today so we had to think." But more like, you do without the luxuries and have to borrow cell phones or find rapidly vanishing (in the UK anyway) public phones.

Or worse, all your stuff is on the phone and some weasel breaks in and copies it all and leaves you a message like "I'm Sorry Bitch"

Unconnected and lovin' it.

Re:All in one? (3, Insightful)

timeOday (582209) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829686)

On another note... haven't there been phones like this before? What's their claim to being the first?
Does being first really matter? The iPod wasn't the first of its kind, and look how profitable it is.

Combining the functionality of a phone, camera, pda, and Walkman into one is certainly doable technically (many of the components are common - battery, screen, processor, radio transciever). The hard part will be keeping it comprehensible, and making each part work well. My Sony Clie has all but the phone, and I can tell you the software needs a lot of work.

I sure hope they don't stop reinventing this "convergence device" wheel until they get it right.

fag (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829317)

fag

The teenies are telling me this is old news.. (2, Interesting)

Paska (801395) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829319)

This idea is already quite old, either that or Sony have handed out these new music playing phones to most of the young teeny boppers in my area already.

A simple trip to the local movie theatre and I am pounded with each and every latest teeny pop song each time a phone rings.

Hopefully these Walkman phones won't allow the tunes to be played through the phone speakers, if that's the case I refuse to leave the house outside school hours.

Really? (1, Flamebait)

__int64 (811345) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829526)

You leave the house?
What's it like out there?

Re:Really? (0, Redundant)

jrushton (806560) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829573)

Full of idiots mostly

This thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829324)

Does it run Linux ?

Re:This thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829723)

Eventually, very likely...but it will probably run NetBSD first.

bed reviews (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829331)

All over the net already, terrible reviews. Search for yourself, ye lazy bastage, but it sucks donkeys. Old donkeys. And donkeys are sterile!

I mean, yeah, if it had a frickin' 60GB hard drive inside, but no, it is that darned Mammarystick Duo thing, what's the point of that?

Re:bed reviews (2, Interesting)

soupdevil (587476) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829555)

Mules. Mules are sterile. Mules are the offspring of male donkeys and female horses. If donkeys were sterile there would be no mules. Or donkeys, for that matter.
I'm still trying to figure out what sterile donkeys have to do with reviewing beds.

Re:bed reviews (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829607)

I suppose that would explain the donkey ranches in Settlers 4 ...

OKay, replace "donkeys" with "mules" in my comment. Thanks. And I meant "bad", not "bed" ... but there is a niche out there for an independent bed review site, because Ikea beds suck donke^H^H^H^H^Hmules.

Wot no HD? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829820)

err I think you'll find that disks tend not to be as robust as solid-state.

Phones get dropped more than iPods.

Text Input (1)

fembots (753724) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829332)

I think it's a good idea. Mobile's keypad is familar to many users, so navigation should be easy. And with the ability to input text and swap songs (memory cards), there might be a market for it.

isn't this a dupe? (1)

zeke-o (595753) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829333)

from a day or two ago? read today's article on QA :)

Cell phone meets the Walkman: virtual karma (4, Informative)

Virtual Karma (862416) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829336)

Photos and more here [blogspot.com]

More Phone Stuff! (4, Funny)

geomon (78680) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829337)

Phones that play music.

Phones that perform facial recognition.

Phones that take photos.

Phones that shoot small caliber rounds.

Phones that can be tracked by GPS.

Phones that can extend penis lengths.

Phones that can make water from wine.

Phones that introduce you to your new spouse.

Are there any phones that allow you to talk to someone separated by distances greater than you can shout?

Re:More Phone Stuff! (5, Funny)

winkydink (650484) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829401)

You forgot phones that act as vibrators.

Re:More Phone Stuff! (2, Funny)

hobbesx (259250) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829609)

That'd be a subset of phones that extend penis length.

I like my seperate devices (2, Insightful)

moofdaddy (570503) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829338)

Everythign is getting so small now, tiny phones, tiny mp3 players, tiny cameras. It is not that difficult to get each device seperate. I hate this trend towards convergence because you end up with a crappy phone and a crappy mp3 player. I bought one of those phone/pda things and it was terrible. It wasn't half as good as my regular PDA or the phone I traded it in for. So instead i get two crappy devices in the size of one.

Focus on making things better, making phone reception clearer, i don't need to listen to music using my phone, thats what my iPod is for.

Of course there's a trade off (2, Informative)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829541)

But for a lot of people carrying shit around is a real pain. I have a phone and a PDA and a Network Walkman. The PDA never leaves my bedroom. My Walkman rarely comes with me. My phone is always with me.

Having more PDA and music functionality in my phone (my phone has radio but appears to need some crappy Nokia headset for it) would be a definate advantage to me.

Sorry I Missed Your Call (2, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829340)

Sorry I missed your call, I was totally jamming to Louis Jordan and couldn't be bothered.

ultimately we'll have to ask ourselves what the heck these things are actually for

Walkman? (4, Funny)

Hershmire (41460) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829342)

But how do you fit the cassette in the phone?

Re:Walkman? (1)

alanlke (685520) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829383)

Oh, cassettes. Thank god; i was imagining a phone big enough to read my EP's

Re:Walkman? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829503)

Actually, that would be incredibly retro-cool. You should patent that sucker! Just make it play MP3s as well, so the cassette part is just for show instead of forcing people to deal with that crappy format...

Beware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829343)

The calling function will only work with users on the Sony ATRAC phone network.

Cool (1)

Jailbrekr (73837) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829348)

Now you can be rocking out to "I can't drive 55" while you are driving and chatting on your cel phone.

I wonder what other features they can stuff into a cel phone which could make it a more dangerous device to use while driving? DVD player? Dildo? Oh wait, a waterproof cel on vibrate can double as one.....

I can see the slogan now. (1)

vorwerk (543034) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829354)

"Music Phones": Because ring tones weren't annoying enough.

Nothing new (4, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829362)

First walkman phone eh? You can have music on your regular cell phone RIGHT NOW: Call AT&T's customer support line, say to the operator that you're furious and you wish to complain and talk to her manager, wait till she says "yes Sir, please hold" and enjoy endless music for FREE!

Re:Nothing new (1)

Jozer99 (693146) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829469)

Yes, but only "Cats in The Cradle" by Harry Chapin.

Re:Nothing new (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829694)

If you haven't noticed, music tends to be choppy because its double if not triple encoded. IVR system uses compressed music, call centers usually are connected via voip(add another compress) and then your cell phone network will compress it again. Try calling a place that puts you on hold with a land line compared to cell phone. I always thought their IVR system music was fucked up.

Looks like Sony will fuck it up. (3, Insightful)

gregvr (518483) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829364)

Lessee, it's a Sony digital music format, so it'll be all fucked up. 1. Memory Stick? Give me a break. 2. I'm sure that I can't just put a FAT formatted flash card in it. I'm sure that I have to use some sort of fucking evil-ass Sony piece of crap, PC-only software for the sole purpose of COPYING FILES TO A FLASH CARD.

Re:Looks like Sony will fuck it up. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829583)

there is something other than a pc? oh yeah.. whats that hardware all the homos use?

Re:Looks like Sony will fuck it up. (1)

solowCX (796423) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829614)

I can't comment on other Sony products, but I havn't had a need for any external software for my Sony DSC-V1 digital camera. It just mounts it as a drive and you can drag and drop all you want. With an older Canon camera I had they didn't even mount it, and you were forced to use their crappy photo program (or other exporting programs) just to get them off.

nice phone overall (1)

pasokon (829164) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829384)

it should also be noted that aside from being the "first walkman phone", it's also got other goodies like a 2-megapixel camera with *optical focusing*, a nice 176x220 res display, and your other staple features like FM Radio, Bluetooth, etc... you can also put 1 GB Memory Stick PRO Duo cards in it.


official site [sonyericsson.com]
more info [mobileburn.com]

Congratulations Sony... (4, Informative)

Humorously_Inept (777630) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829386)

I've been listening to MP3s on my N-Gage with a 512MB MMC card and stereo headphones for 1.5 years. Granted, I don't have a dedicated start/stop button. On the subject of annoying behavior, yes, I can play songs over the loudspeaker and I can make MP3 files my ringtone should I ever need to annoy you.

Re:Congratulations Sony... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829727)

Wait,

You bought an N-Gage?

Convergence Convergence Convergence! (2, Insightful)

ihatewinXP (638000) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829394)

Well as much as some /.'ers hate the convergence of phones and would rather wear a utility belt - this looks like a great mix. I think the older generation instead of lamenting that most convergence phone/camera/music/pda phones dont do it right should applaud the ones that do. This looks like a great first step.

Most importantly the battery life kicks ass on this phone in both modes - I really think that this is the acid test for many - What good are feautures if there is no power to turn on the phone.

One day soon I will own a Phone / PDA / iPod / Camera (Still and Motion) with hopefully some GPS thrown in for good measure - Convergence is key - that or bigger pockets.

Re:Convergence Convergence Convergence! (1)

standsolid (619377) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829691)

CBG: I find their choice of prize highly illogical, as the average Trekker has no use for a medium size belt.

We need more and more devices to continue to conceal our ever-expanding bellies.

Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829405)

If you keep the phone off you can get 30 hours worth of music playback? Now, it must be a lot better once you actually turn the thing ON...

512MB Duo card included? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829444)

That's going to make for one heck of an expensive phone.

Re:512MB Duo card included? (1)

MrPerfekt (414248) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829533)

512MB Duo cards can be had for relatively cheap... Like here [bestbuy.com] for example.

Considering most high-end phones cost $600 anyway, what's another $90 for half a GB?

Re:512MB Duo card included? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829629)

I think it is enough to spend $200 less on the phone, $100 on an 512MB MP3 player, and then save phone battery life by listening to the MP3 player.

Welcome to last year (1)

ChuckSchwab (813568) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829445)

Population: this article

The Sony Ericsson Z800 is the one I'm waiting for (2, Interesting)

abischof (255) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829448)

While the idea of a Walkman phone is cool, I'd rather have a clamshell phone -- if only because, with all the buttons on the inside, it's harder (or impossible) to accidentally answer or hang up the phone while it's in my pocket. So, the one I'm waiting for is the Sony Ericsson Z800 [engadget.com] . With Bluetooth, Infrared, MP3/AAC support, it has just about all I could ask for.

Still, I'm also waiting to see if/when it'll make Apple's list of iSync-compatible phones [apple.com] -- being able to sync with my Powerbook (as I do now with my Nokia 3650) is pretty handy. That, and I'm hoping that an unlocked version won't cost me an arm and a leg (I'm in the US on T-Mobile, fwiw).

Re:The Sony Ericsson Z800 is the one I'm waiting f (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829535)

"I'm also waiting to see if/when it'll make Apple's list of iSync-compatible phones"

It will do - SE phones all transfer their data the same way via Bluetooth since the T68. Newer ones have SyncML as well, although funnily enough, the V800 I have (a Vodafone UK-only version of the Z800) doesn't have this.

While I'd agree about the benefits of a clamshell phone over a choc bar model, the drawbacks with the V800 are its size - it's bigger than my old T610 and quite bulky, so I'm angling after the new K750 - essentially the Walkman phone without the Walkman bit...

Re:The Sony Ericsson Z800 is the one I'm waiting f (1)

gophergod (820471) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829545)

Oh great Bluetooth and MP3 ... so does this meen that your phone can be hacked to yell "HEY! I WATCH GAY PORNO!!!!'" as your ringer???

Re:The Sony Ericsson Z800 is the one I'm waiting f (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829648)

I'll wait for it to be replaced by the Z8000, and then cast into obscurity as everyone goes and uses the less featureful, but simpler 8086.

Re:The Sony Ericsson Z800 is the one I'm waiting f (1)

DavidTC (10147) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829662)

I think you mean 'accidently dial'. And possibly 'accidently hang up' if you use a headset.

It would be rather surreal to accidently answer the phone. You'd have to time that pretty well.

Re:The Sony Ericsson Z800 is the one I'm waiting f (1)

abischof (255) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829730)

It would be rather surreal to accidently answer the phone. You'd have to time that pretty well.

Actually, with my current candybar-shaped phone (Nokia 3650), that's not as hard as you might think ;). It's just a matter of the phone ringing (in my pocket) and then accidentally pressing the "Answer" button against my keys or something in the process of pulling the phone from my pocket.

Re:The Sony Ericsson Z800 is the one I'm waiting f (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829683)

Don't rely on iSync page. If there is a way to do it (e.g. if you own laptop), test it yourself.

I am telling it since I own a 7650 which is "supported" by iSync. Apple says so. What Apple doesn't tell is, 7650 now (latest fw) uses the 3650 language for syncing data. It took me days finding that hint at osxhints.com. I basically replaced the 7650 resource with 3650, it worked.

If phone uses some sort of standard way syncing the data, it will be supported. Of course thats why it needs real test. E.g. run iSync with Z800 and see if it works.

Hmmm (2, Insightful)

paithuk (766069) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829457)

"if you keep the phone off, otherwise about half that"

uh huh, because it's not like I'd be expecting to receive calls with this phone thing...

splendid... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829473)

triangulate my location with towers as well as track my listening habits.

Maybe Sony thinks it's a new idea (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829479)

But my wife's Siemens SL45 is over three years old now. And it wasn't the first mp3 phone either.

The problem with "convergence" (1, Insightful)

BlastM (663010) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829486)

up to 30 hours of playback (if you keep the phone off, otherwise about half that).


The problem with devices converging is the compromises that are made. Instead of two seperate gadgets that do the job well, in this case a mobile phone and an MP3 player, you get one device that is substandard at everything. To me it seems as if the phone is just a gimmick to sell the MP3 player instead of being a functional replacement for a standalone phone.

Does it play Ogg Vorbis? I bet it doesn't, and I can name several standalone DAPs that do support it and probably have better audio quality.

A substandard MP3 player and a phone with poor battery life if you actually want to use both the components of this device? No thanks, I'll stick to my Rio Karma and my trusty old CDMA phone.

V800 does this already.. (5, Informative)

MrPerfekt (414248) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829491)

I'm mystified by this because my Sony Ericsson V800 [gsmarena.com] already does this. From the pictures, the phone seems to run the same software too. So aside from branding, I fail to see the difference. The V800 also has expandable memory via Memory Stick Pro Duo which cards are available up to 1GB for.

Granted the V800 is not "available" in America, but one can be snagged from eBay and unlocked/flashed. The same thing you're going to have to do with the W800 though.

The drawback to the V800 though is that the earphones connect through the T28 connector as there is no mini-headphone jack. :( But with a little enginuity you could make your headphones work too.

How is this new? (2, Interesting)

mykepredko (40154) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829557)

My year and a half old Kyocera 7135 [kyocera-wireless.com] has a built in MP3 player just like the Ericsson with a Palm Pilot built in to boot. It's a great feature for a phone and I was always surprised no other phones were offering it.

myke

Motorolla (3, Informative)

Indes (323481) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829576)

I have a Motorolla E680, It has 50 megs built in, but an SD slot in the bottom (now filled with a 1GB card)

it also comes with real player, so I play my mp3s or mp4/real player format movies in 320x240 resolution.

Not only that is the phone has stereo sound, hand writing recognition on the touch screen, a VGA resolution camera, bluetooth and full GSM world phone capabilities.

The downside is the USB1.1, USB2.0 would have been better.

The greatest part: The phone runs linux with the J2ME over top. Write your own apps in J2ME,

for example, I can SSH from my phone to my network and deal with anything while listening to my mp3s and taking phone calls.

I've been doing this since December, Although I had to order my phone from China, it is fully english and cost me just under 600 dollars.

So why is this new technology anyway?

We need a new generic name for these things (1)

serutan (259622) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829596)

As phones, PDAs, cameras and media players merge into one thing, we need to come up with a name for it. How about "camputalkman" ??

Or, more likely (in the US at least): "illegal general purpose information piracy device."

SE phones (1)

kennycoder (788223) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829615)

W800 is based on K750i (aka Clara) model. Its almost the same with some design modification and has music management software + 512 MB card bundled.

You can read a very interesting article on (K750i which is the base of W800) here [mobile-review.com]

battery life (1)

hamishmorgan (652803) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829632)

Ok I'm probably being stupid but... 30 hours play time with phone off, 15 hours when on. So playing music consumes as much power as simply being a phone. Soo if I don't listen to music ever and just use it as a phone then the battery will last me only 30 hours. Soooo if i don't want to recharge the bloody thing more than once every 24 hours, I may not listen to more than 6 hours of music - and that's based on the promotional figures of a brand spanking new battery.

This IMHO is one of the problems with convergence. If I had two devices then I could listen to music until the battery died but my phone would still work fine. With this device I could so easily end up with a very expensive, high-tech paperwieght come late afternoon.

yeah, right... (1)

roadrunnerro (800862) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829637)

yeah right, the first... the first Sony Ericsson phone that plays mp3s, has a coloured screen and a camera and is named W800i... really inovative indeed...

the T-Mobile SDA [t-mobile.de] or trusty Siemens SL45 [google.com] must have been figments of our collective imagination...

It would be nicer if... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829640)

they attached a phone on PSP instead

Damn you, SONY! (1)

standsolid (619377) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829645)

This is the first time I've ever envied a phone that wasn't motorola. I have a Moto v80 (stellar phone) and am positively drooling over pictures of this thing. I don't even care that it probably uses a memory stick... hopefully Moto's iTunes phone won't only be that horrid green thing we've seen posted [engadget.com] around.. maybe even get SD card support! That would be so kick-ass.

I'd like to listen to sporting events on the cell (1)

cshay (79326) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829650)

I find myself on a train alot after peak hours while a baseball or football game is on. I'd love to be able to listen to it on the cell phone... and someday even watch it... I was kind of hoping Tellme would support this, but I don't think they will.

Panasonic Presents: "BooomBox Phone" (3, Funny)

Sundroid (777083) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829679)

Press Release: "Not to be outdone, Panasonic, Sony's rival, is coming out with a "BoomBox Phone" -- a giant 200-watt shiny metal of nostalgic beauty complete with a free six-hour cassette recording of best disco hits. The BoomBox Phone is designed to sit comfortably on your shoulder as you make a call with the built-in wireless phone device. There is no better way to chat with your romantic interest with Donna Summer cooing words of love in the background."

Features I'd like to see (1)

Alpelopa (864348) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829705)

I look forward to Internet radio and GPS (with "you are here" street maps) plus cell phone in one device. That would be pretty useful.

I think I'll start a cell phone music service. (1)

demonic-halo (652519) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829706)

I think I'll start a cell phone music service.

All you do is call a number, and it puts you on hold. Instant music phone for any cell phone out there.

All I Want... (1)

RobL3 (126711) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829709)

Is my blackberry to support iTunes. Bluetooth? Check. Email? Check. SSH and telnet? Check. Phone? Check. Sweet color screen? Check. Music? BZZT. How hard can it be?

Slashdot tagline (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11829713)

Yesterdays news, today

heh, (1)

jolande (852630) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829718)

They should call it the PSPhone.

Treo 600/650 has had this capability for some time (2, Interesting)

meniah (186455) | more than 9 years ago | (#11829747)

I've owned and loved my Treo 600 now for just over a year. I have a 256MB SD card in it, loaded with MP3's, a pair of headphones and PocketTunes loaded. I've been listening to music on my PDA/Phone/Camera for quite awhile now.

I think the Treo can take even larger SD cards, too.

There's no DRM that I'm aware of either.

Greg
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