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Torvalds Switches to a Mac

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the he's-just-copying-me dept.

Technology (Apple) 1162

renai42 writes "Linux creator Linus Torvalds said this afternoon that he's now running an Apple Macintosh as his main desktop, mainly for work reasons, although partly simply because he's a self-described "technology whore" and got the machine for free." And yes, he is running Linux on it ;)

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Just hardware, no apple OS. (5, Informative)

ClickWir (166927) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887899)

Torvald's response came quickly and succinctly. "My main machine these days is a dual 2GHz G5 (aka PowerPC 970) - it's physically a regular Apple Mac, although it obviously only runs Linux, so I don't think you can call it a Mac any more ;)" he said.

Re:Just hardware, no apple OS. (1)

schestowitz (843559) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888036)

When he starts running wine on that 'Mac', will he then say "obviously only runs Linux, so I don't think you can call it a PC any more"?

Re:Just hardware, no apple OS. (4, Insightful)

KZigurs (638781) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888052)

Wise remark. Like it or not - apple hw, without max os x isn't a mac.

It's just another linux machine with that horrible X thing on it. :P

Re:Just hardware, no apple OS. (-1, Flamebait)

pebs (654334) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888098)

<mac zealot>
OMG WTF? Why doesn't he just run OS X on it??!?? That's a waste of perfectly good hardware. OS X is sooo much better than Linux. blahblahbalhbalhbalhb
</mac zealot>

Heretic! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887904)

I'll get the stake, can asomeone else get the firewood?

Big Deal (5, Funny)

tsmithnj (738472) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887906)

My carpenter switched from a 15" hammer to a 16" hammer. It's just a tool fer Chrissakes....

Re:Big Deal (5, Funny)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888071)

Yeah, but to people here, it's like Jesus was that carpenter switching from a 15" hammer to a 16" hammer. I don't think this is particularly newsworthy. If I got a free Mac one day, I'd sure as hell use it.

ahahah (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887908)

first post!!!!

FP? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887910)

Fleshpaint?

Wow (2, Insightful)

Quasar1999 (520073) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887911)

that's great... why do I care? Seriously, I sometimes write code for windows apps, while running FreeBSD... who cares... sometimes you just happen to be in a different environment... it doesn't mean you've abandoned the other one.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887945)

Except, what the blurb failed to mention is that he is only running Linux on the Mac - so he did not really change environments, just hardware.

Re:Wow (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887959)

If you don't care so much, then why did you feel the need to post a useless comment? :-)

Re:Wow (3, Insightful)

dleifelohcs (777508) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887976)

But of course if he decided to go to Windows you would all have a fit.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11888048)

Yes, it's just a tool, except for Windows.

You don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887988)

Computing is a lifestyle. The OS and hardware you run defines you as a person. And if you make the intelligent choice and go with a Macintosh over any other system, it shows you are a genius with style. x86, AMD, SPARC is for fools. These chips are akin to pickup trucks, where the PPC is more the Saab or Audi of the CPU world. Style counts in everything you day. PPC + Linux = Style and Power = Intelligent choice.

Did you hear that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887912)

As the jaws of many, many die-hard Linux advocates slam into the floor.

Re:Did you hear that? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887946)

I still cannot close mine

Re:Did you hear that? (-1, Redundant)

attonitus (533238) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887972)

As the jaws of many, many die-hard Linux advocates slam into the floor.

... and quickly close again after they RTFA.

"...it's physically a regular Apple Mac, although it obviously only runs Linux..."

First post? (-1, Offtopic)

Knights who say 'INT (708612) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887913)

Wow.

This is bound to become joke-and-flame fodder for ages and ages.

I can see already all the slashdot comments linking to this story.

He has been posting from torvalds@ppc970.osdl.org (5, Interesting)

tabkey12 (851759) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887915)

for a long time now - thought it was obvious he was using a G5.

Always good to see another boost to the PPC64 platform though...

Re:He has been posting from torvalds@ppc970.osdl.o (2, Funny)

mirko (198274) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888022)

Yes, this might reduce the G5 costs :)

I don't really care... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887918)

I just wanted to be the first to post.

So what. (3, Informative)

BibelBiber (557179) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887919)

I got a mac too. So what? It runs Linux just as fine as on any other mashine.

Re:So what. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11888009)

Yes, but does the spell checker work?

Yea but... (3, Funny)

mp3phish (747341) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888085)

You aren't LINUX TORVALDS!!!!! So it doesn't matter :)

That's putting your money where your mouth is! (-1, Troll)

ThePlague (30616) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887920)

I applaud you, Mr. Torvalds, for showing such faith and belief in your Linux product. Kudos to you, sir! An inspiration for the rest of us!

Re:That's putting your money where your mouth is! (1)

chrome (3506) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887963)

RTFA. He is running PPC Linux.

Re:That's putting your money where your mouth is! (1)

gloth (180149) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887974)

RTFA, he's running Linux on it. Duh.

He already stated this (5, Informative)

BoomerSooner (308737) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887922)

This has been known for a while. [slashdot.org] Read it and he discusses why he runs PPC instead of x86, just to have a different view on kernel development. Plus it's not like he runs OS X or something.

MOD PARENT UP! (-1, Redundant)

bach37 (602070) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887935)

RTFA guys he's not running OS X. I really hate misleading slashdot articles.

Yes, (-1, Redundant)

mrjb (547783) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887923)

...but does he run Linux?

Re:Yes (1)

sdMMk (857216) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887957)

Yes.

Re:Yes, (2, Informative)

tehshen (794722) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887964)

Indeed he does. "My main machine these days is a dual 2GHz G5 (aka PowerPC 970) - it's physically a regular Apple Mac, although it obviously only runs Linux, so I don't think you can call it a Mac any more ;)", he said.

Re:Yes, (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887973)

Yes he does you stupid faggot. RTFA

Re:Yes, (1)

Simon Lyngshede (623138) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887982)

No time to read the article... It's not really that long.

YES, he runs Linux on he Apple... I have no idea why Linus getting new hardware is news. If he actually ran MacOSX, then yes, that would be a bit funny or even interresting.

Re:Yes, (1)

wild_berry (448019) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887985)

RTFA, mate.

(I understand this is a meme and joke all rolled into one, so please excuse my preempting those slashdotistas who fail to make this distinction. -1 Redundant)

Hey (5, Funny)

Lostie (772712) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887924)

It should be pointed out that he is certainly not using Mac OSX - but Linux's PPC port (of course). Don't worry - *BSD is still dying. ;-)

Whoopty Doo... (1)

OriginalSpaceMan (695146) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887925)

Who cares about operating system usage? I run a bunch of PCs. I don't use MACs very often because I have been using Windows and now Linux most of my life, but I still like them. When the miniMacs came out I had to pick one up. Very cool, but now it belongs to my father. Does he also use a Palm?

Re:Whoopty Doo... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887967)

I sure hope you use MACs. Everyone needs a good Machine Address Code (:

Media Access Control (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11888081)

It's funnier when you don't just guess at the expansion of the acronym.

At least... (0)

Baorc (794142) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887927)

it wasn't windows, because then I would be terribly frightened - see shivering in a corner weeping frightened.

He is using linux on a dual g5 (4, Interesting)

Zapdos (70654) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887930)

He is using linux on mac hardware that was given to him. Wouldn't you?

Re:He is using linux on a dual g5 (1)

0x461FAB0BD7D2 (812236) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888069)

Wouldn't I use Linux on mac hardware given to him? No, no I wouldn't. Unless that was part of the Linux Server Break-in Challenge. :P

Re:He is using linux on a dual g5 (1)

downbad (793562) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888070)

Can't say that I would.

Re:He is using linux on a dual g5 (2, Insightful)

harris s newman (714436) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888077)

If I was given a dual G5 with the OS license, ***I*** certainly would run OSX. Then again, its a support thing, and since HE supports the OS, there is nothing wrong with him running Linux. I kinda guess it's a preference thing.

I'm disappointed in this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887931)

This is a huge deal! This is as worse as saying that Torvalds switched to Windows as his main desktop just for the .NET Framework! What a traitor!

Re:I'm disappointed in this (-1, Redundant)

koreaman (835838) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888006)

RTFA, s'il vous plait.
He runs Linux on the Mac. The blurb should have said something like "Linux switches to G5" to make it more clear, but you should at least RTFA.

Re:I'm disappointed in this (0)

bbc (126005) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888014)

Yeah, what next?! Cats and dogs living together, anonymous cowards learning how to spell!

Linus has beaten the two biggest drawbacks of macs (5, Insightful)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887932)

Cost of hardware (he got it for free) and cost o software (he writes his own).

Hey, I'd take it too, given that kind of deal!

What's the date? (1, Funny)

stinky wizzleteats (552063) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887941)

Shouldn't we be seeing this in 3 weeks?

Re:What's the date? (3, Funny)

tehshen (794722) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888032)

If you submit it again, we will ;)

Re:What's the date? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11888075)

There's a daily dupe scheduled, starting Friday, every other day until then. That is all.

I switched... (1, Funny)

Cheese Grits (850464) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887942)

From a Gillette Sensor to the Mach3 Turbo, but that's as far as I'll go. I'm not buying a vibrating razor. http://theawhells.com

Re:I switched... (1)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888023)

i dunno whether it's a placebo, or whether i'm more careful with it, but i think it makes a difference.

Re:I switched... (2, Funny)

sdMMk (857216) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888057)

That's like saying you won't buy an electric bed for fear of bats, flying through the window to carry your electric bed to the sea, where they will drop it in and you will be left floating (in the sea) on an electric bed, wishing you had a paddle, but you don't, so you wind up pulling out your electric razor, constructing a solar panel device using mirrors (located on the underside of your electric bed for comform), waiting for 126 hours for the sun to come back up, looking it square in the face, and saying, "NO. I AM NOT AN ANIMAL." Hey, it's cool though, because it's times like that you're glad you had that razor, you can use it as an electric solar powered motor and carry yourself (against current) back home, and then you'll have a vibro-water bed too. You won't need any shaving foam in a situation like that then will you? You can just splash water from the bed on to it, cherishing the electric razor as your saviour, helping you get back to land with the glory of *S0lAr p-0-w-E-r*.

me too... (1)

nbharatvarma (784546) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887943)

I am a self-described "technology whore" too... can I get my free mini mac ??

Since you asked.... (-1, Offtopic)

CarrionBird (589738) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888088)

I'm a self-described "free stuff" whore. So click below!

Linux and the Fashion Conscious? (3, Insightful)

buckhead_buddy (186384) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887944)

While I think this has no real significance in terms of kernel development, I think it may go a long way in promoting the cross-platform, fashionable traits of Linux.

Some of my previous employers think of Linux (unfairly) as nothing more than a DOS knock-off. I'd love to see their jaws drop when they read about this. (Perhaps Vogue might do a fashion shoot with Linux on a Mac Mini?)

Pretty sad (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887948)


when your product cannot live up on its own and you have to resort to cheap celebrity associations to bolster your product that nobody really wants

also sad that the creator of Linux has no faith in none of his creations and none of the nnn distributions can solve his needs, perhaps we should all stay away from Linux, its that bad even the creator wont use it daily !

Not at all (1)

LinuxGeek (6139) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887993)

RTFA, his Mac box runs Linux.

Misleading headline (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887949)

He hasn't switched to Mac OS X, he's just running Linux on Apple hardware.

Progressive Evil (1)

darrint (265374) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887951)

First Bitkeeper, now Mac, what next? A Pocket PC? It's a slippery slope. ;-)

probably good news overall (-1, Redundant)

slide-rule (153968) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887952)

I'm not sure how many nay-sayers this "shocking news" might bring out, but my opinion is that if he fights his desktop environment less for day-to-day tasks, he might have more time, energy, and mental resources to code the linux kernel. Just my two cents on something that probably doesn't matter anyway.

Re:probably good news overall (1)

bbc (126005) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888064)

"I'm not sure how many nay-sayers this "shocking news" might bring out, but my opinion is that if he fights his desktop environment less for day-to-day tasks, he might have more time, energy, and mental resources to code the linux kernel."

Which is why he erased that pile-o-junk called Mac OS from the hard disk and installed Linux instead.

Now if only the rest of the Mac world would follow, we'd see some real productivity boosts!

(I am joking, I couldn't care less what anybody uses, as long as they feel happy with it.)

smart people think alike (4, Informative)

PureCreditor (300490) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887953)

Torvalds is showing 2 things :

a) Linux on PPC is at least as good as on any x86 CPU.

b) Apple hardware is desired over your Average Joe's box from Dell or HP.

Re:smart people think alike (1)

HairyCanary (688865) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888080)

b) Apple hardware is desired over your Average Joe's box from Dell or HP. Oh really? He got the silly box for free. Ask him if he would have actually paid money to get a dual G5 mac? The hardware is great & all, but you can get more power from a PC, for less money. I would take a Mac too if it was given to me, but if it's my money paying for it, give me a PC.

Re:smart people think alike (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11888090)

> b) Apple hardware is desired over your Average Joe's box from Dell or HP.

Rather, free hardware is desired over your average hardware you pay for.

The end of Linux.... (1, Funny)

Tsunayoshi (789351) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887954)

Oh my God!!!!! This must mean linux is dying!!!! Let's all switch to *BSD and be just like the holy prophet!!!!

Re:The end of Linux.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11888079)

You sir are an idiot, according to the article he is running linux on the dual ppc which was made for apple in some sweatshop somewhere

Wrong message (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887958)

What kind of message does it send to potential business and home users if the man behind the Linux Operating System uses Mac OS X?

Even its founder, and a supernerd, thinks Linux is not ready for the desktop! What will ordinary people think of that? Bill gates will be lollin' in his grave.

Yo Torvalds! You rock, dude! (2, Insightful)

Kokuyo (549451) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887961)

Well at least Linus Torvalds has understood that computers are just tools which should do what they are expected to do: Help us get our work done.

I find all those OS and Hardware flamewars silly. Not that I expect them to stop now but that man sure gained some respect in my book.

Well... (1)

Sheepdot (211478) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887965)

...It *is* awfully close to April Fool's, isn't it?

Been Done (2)

ThatWeasel (113982) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887968)

Hadn't he already said this in his book? "Just For Fun"?

Nice tidbit and all (5, Insightful)

jtwJGuevara (749094) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887978)

But seriously, let's not turn this into the E! network for geeks. I really personally don't care what hardware platform Linus uses or whether he buys his underwear from thinkgeek.com just so long as he continues doing a smashing job maintaining kernel development.

Re:Nice tidbit and all (0)

BenBenBen (249969) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888040)

For all those like me who are about to run over there, no, thinkgeek still don't sell underwear.

Re:Nice tidbit and all (1)

bersl2 (689221) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888076)

Not men's underwear, anyway...

Have you ever heard about... (5, Funny)

kunwon1 (795332) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887980)

Rats who jump from sinking ships, because somehow, they just instinctively KNOW that it's sinking?









Just kidding. For GODS SAKE I was just kidding. I swear.

Re:Have you ever heard about... (2, Funny)

Phisbut (761268) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888068)

Have you ever heard about rats who jump from sinking ships, because somehow, they just instinctively KNOW that it's sinking?

Yeah... the kind of rats that say "Damn, the ship is sinking and we're all gonna die if we stay here. Let's jump ship and drown before it sinks!"

Could be worse - it could have been Windows (1)

drizst 'n drat (725458) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887987)

I applaud him for the decision even if it was given to him. I used to have a bias against the Mac a long time ago. However, as Microsoft become the big gorilla on the block, I started to look for alternatives. I use several Sun machines, and of course, a few Linux boxes with an obligatory spattering of a few windows machines mostly for my wife. If I had to choose between Microsoft and Apple ... I'd go Apple too ...

Re:Could be worse - it could have been Windows (2, Insightful)

bbc (126005) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888089)

Since Microsoft does not produce PCs (unless you count the XBox as one), the point is moot. There was never going to be a choice between Mac hardware and PC hardware.

date (-1, Offtopic)

mr. marbles (19251) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887991)

I guess everyone at the office switched my calendars cause I did not know it was April Fools already.

In other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11887992)

Microsoft's chairman and chief software architect said this evening that he's now using Linux as his main operating system, mainly for security reasons, although partly simply because he's a self-described "crack whore" and got the distro for free.

TRAITOR (2, Funny)

Yonkeltron (720465) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887994)

First Bitkeeper and now this.....

That's it...I'm switching to HURD!

To those shocked by the headline... (-1, Redundant)

xutopia (469129) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887995)

FROM THE ARTICLE:

Torvald's response came quickly and succinctly. "My main machine these days is a dual 2GHz G5 (aka PowerPC 970) - it's physically a regular Apple Mac, although it obviously only runs Linux, so I don't think you can call it a Mac any more ;)" he said.

single-handedly (5, Insightful)

millwall (622730) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887997)

"[...] the man who has single-handedly revolutionised the use of Unix on the x86 platform"

Oh, I thought there were several people involved in Linux? Didn't know Linus created it "single-handedly".

Thanks for pointing that out to me, ZDNet!

Why run Linux on a Mac, if you're not Linus? (4, Insightful)

Jay Maynard (54798) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887998)

The dual G5 is a neat box, and having gotten it for free, it's hard to argue with his choice.

Personally, though, I don't see a lot of point in running Mac hardware and not running Mac OS X. The OS is what makes the system so insanely great.

This answers the question (2, Insightful)

nurhussein (864532) | more than 9 years ago | (#11887999)

To all of you repeatedly asking the question:

"WHY WOULD ANYONE RUN LINUX ON A MAC?"

There's your answer. Some of the people who do so write operating systems for PPC.

Hate the Game, Not the Player (-1, Offtopic)

shoma-san (739914) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888000)

Hate the Game, Not the Player...

He runs linux, (0, Offtopic)

hjf (703092) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888007)

because he can't run BSD. That, or BSD is dead already.

Which distro I wonder (1)

DarkClown (7673) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888008)

Anyone know if it's yellow dog or debian or etc.. or what?

Do the posters even read the fucking articles?! (1)

Anita Coney (648748) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888012)

He has NOT switched to a Mac. The article specifically says he's running Linux on a PowerPC!

What distro is he running? (1)

dafz1 (604262) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888024)

Is he running YDL, Mandrake, Gentoo, or something else? Does this mean PPC kernels are going to keep up with x86 kernels? With this revelation, hopefully more distros will keep up with x86 versions.

Nothing wrong with mac hardware (-1, Troll)

codepunk (167897) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888034)

Hell if somebody gave me one I would use it also. Most of the mac hardware is very nicely built. I ran OSX on a older mac and that is about a useless as
a drink coaster. You load a version of linux and you get every software package and tool you could ever want. You load osx and you get nothing but a outdated version of IE or a hacked up version of the kde browser, hell not even a compiler.

Re:Nothing wrong with mac hardware (4, Informative)

tabkey12 (851759) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888097)

hell not even a compiler

Wrong

Apple includes full Developer's TOols with every version of OS X, including a customised version of GCC. So there is a compiler, and much more with OS X.

Actually I find OS X runs surprisingly well on old Macs (perfectly working on my 350MHz G3 iMac) but if you want to use Linux, that's cool too. Just don't make inaccurate statements about OS X.

Why dont they (3, Insightful)

biophysics (798365) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888041)

rename the article as "Torvalds Switches to G5 hardware" instead of trying to create ripples in the industry.

Why should it matter? (4, Insightful)

Psykechan (255694) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888044)

Why should it really matter what platform he's using? Is everyone worried that there is going to be an end to the x86 version or something?

Linux is portable. It shouldn't matter if the main man behind it is running it on a PC, a Mac, an Amiga, a PS2, or a toaster. This should be seen as a good thing.

The Great Whore? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11888050)

Must be nice being a Whore to Technology....

this place is ridiculous (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11888072)

I know comments about how pathetic this place is are a dime a dozen, but I can't help myself...

First of all, this has been known for quite a while now. I don't make an effort to keep track of everything Linus does, and I don't check Slashdot 20 times a day, but I knew Linus was running a PowerPC.

Second, the summary clearly states "he is running Linux on it". And yet, as of now, the large majority of posters here are clearly under the impression that he is running Mac OS X. What does it say about Slashdot that the majority of posters don't even read the two-sentence summary, let alone the actual article, before thinking they have something worth saying about the topic?

It is truly amazing how much utter crap I read here.

Some should mark the article as "troll" (-1)

intnsred (199771) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888078)

Someone should really moderate the entire article and its summary as a "troll".

Seriously, if Linus were using a Linux Sparc box or Transmeta CPUed box or any other non-x86 machine which can run Linux, would that rate a /. article?

Nerds everywhere crap their pants (1)

GatesGhost (850912) | more than 9 years ago | (#11888096)

does this count as linux scandal?
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