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Microsoft to Acquire Groove Networks

samzenpus posted more than 9 years ago | from the the-collective-grows dept.

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namalc writes "In a huge shot across the groupware bow, Microsoft announced today that it would acquire Groove Networks, and Ray Ozzie, the founder of Groove, would become Microsoft CTO. Ray Ozzie, the creator of Lotus Notes, had positioned Groove to straddle both the IBM/Lotus and Microsoft worlds. It will be interesting to see what direction Groove takes now."

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Questions (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900147)

  1. Who or what is Groove?
  2. What do Groove do?
  3. Why should we care that Microsoft, king of aquisitions, have acquired Yet Another Company?
If this information had been provided in the article introduction I'd be reading about it now, rather than asking silly questions like these.

Re:Questions (3, Funny)

coolcold (805170) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900223)

1. Who or what is Groove?


2. What do Groove do?

virutal office
3. Why should we care that Microsoft, king of aquisitions, have acquired Yet Another Company?

are you new here?

Re:Questions (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900263)

Great. What's a Virtual Office? Never heard of it. At a guess it sounds like some sort of Java/XHTML/XForms "web application". Yes? No?

Really, why should we care exactly? Microsoft aquires companies nearly every day of the week. What makes Groove so special?

I find it funny to have a user with an 800k user id ask me if I'm new here, by the way. Why do you think I'm logged in but post anonymously?

Re:Questions (1)

coolcold (805170) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900415)

wow, it was just a joke so no offence :) there are microsoft and linux news here all the time. Might not be interesting to you but some might want to know (god knows who).

From my 5 mins scan of the website and reading a few comment suggest virtual office is some program that allows you to share files and check emails as well as managing projects. Didn't like flash intro do I didn't watch the whole thing

>Why do you think I'm logged in but post anonymously?
so you suggest you got something related to this article?

Re:Questions (3, Funny)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900523)

Great. What's a Virtual Office? Never heard of it. At a guess it sounds like some sort of Java/XHTML/XForms "web application". Yes? No?

Yup, that's pretty much what all groupware is -- it's software that causes open source fanboys to say "I don't see what the big deal is. I could do the same thing with NNTP, awk, MythTV, ReiserFS, two tin cans and a piece of string. All this "integration" and "working" stuff is just eye candy."

Lotus Notes is the same thing, except that in that case the fanboys really could have done better with the cans and string.

CTFL (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900356)

Click the Link --- see how "Groove Networks" is underlined? The underline indicates that if you click it (with your mouse) you will be presented with more infomation.

For example if there is a link to "Groove Networks" more information about Groove Networks will appear! Wow!

Re:CTFL (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900403)

I've spent the last ten minutes reading their website. Have you? It's 100% Content Free. It's a lovely marketing brochure though. They offer "Solutions"..ohh!

"Work together securely over the Internet as if you and your team are in the same physical location. Groove Virtual Office is everything your team needs to share information, manage projects, conduct meetings and get work done."

Sounds good. How does it do this? Lets try their FAQ:

"Q:What exactly is a virtual office? Why the product name change?

A: The nature of work today has changed. Work still happens in teams, but those teams are no longer tethered to a single office. Teams and the way they work have become virtual.

* They don't work at the same location.
* They don't work in the same time zone.
* They don't all work for the same company.
* They don't all connect to the same systems, and sometimes they aren't even connected to a network at all.

Groove was designed from its inception to support this type of work. For this reason, we've renamed Groove Workspace to Groove Virtual Office, described as software that allows teams of people to work together securely over the Internet as if they were in the same physical location."


Well that's nice. What the hell does it actually do though?

P2P File Sharing and Messaging by Invitation,Like: (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900467)

CleverCactus

Re:CTFL (1)

sfjoe (470510) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900538)

They offer "Solutions"..ohh!

After looking at their site, I think they actually do offer one solution: The solution to the problem of having your website load too quickly. They aren't handling the slashdotting very well - the marketing department is defintely in charge over there.

Re:Questions (2, Informative)

captwheeler (573886) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900364)

  1. Who or what is Groove?
    A company name and a product name.
  2. What do Groove do?
    Allows web-based group projects with people from different companies. It looks like file sharing integrated with easy web form creation for custom project tools.
  3. Why should we care that Microsoft, king of acquisitions, have acquired Yet Another Company?
    MS might make it more popular, or more MS Office centric, or kill a cross platform possibility in the future. (it requires windows)

Re:Questions (2, Insightful)

rifftide (679288) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900391)

MS gets a nice peer-to-peer product, a "next generation Lotus Notes" that dovetails well with MS Office and MS Communicator (well, there's probably some overlap with the latter but that can be ironed out). More importantly, they get Ray Ozzie as CTO. People have noticed that Microsoft's technical direction seems to have been foundering a bit lately - Ozzie has both outstanding architectural skills and an excellent intuitive grasp of how people and teams use technology. It'll be interesting to see how Gates manages to share his C-level technical responsibilities with Ozzie.

Re:Questions (1)

bananasfalklands (826472) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900548)

Grove is an xml based groupware 'thing' (last time i looked)

Ozzie is/was 'respected' within the Notes community. I believe he was reported at the last Lotusphere in January celeebrating some anniversay of 'notes'. Which is the IBM conference and has been running for 10+ years.

Lotus Notes?!?!? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900148)

I guess the MS BOB team needed someone they could look down on.

Zounds! (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900153)

Wow, this sounds huge. I have just two questions:

What the hell is Groove Networks?

Why should I care that MS bought them?

Re:Zounds! (1)

Coolmoe (416032) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900320)

"What the hell is Groove Networks?"

Makers of remote office software.

"Why should I care that MS bought them?"

You shouldent unless you owned stock in them and if you do let me borrow a few thousand bucks.

Thanks,

Re:Zounds! (1)

blanks (108019) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900342)

Lotus notes. You know the software that was a huge thorn in microsofts side for many years when the battle for communication between office's / workers was batteling between exchange and notes.

my guess (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900155)

Mitch Kapor [osafoundation.org] isn't a happy man right now.

Re:my guess (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900357)

Why wouldn't he be happy? One of his former acquaintances from a former company did well. If Mitch is like emost people (I wouldn't know, I only met him once) they'd be happy for the guy.

Pardon my ignorance..... (0, Redundant)

ben0207 (845105) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900177)

.....What the fuck is Groove?

Re:Pardon my ignorance..... (5, Insightful)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900278)

Groove is an excellent (as of a demo I saw a couple of years ago) integration of pretty much all your collaboration tools.
Think /. and MS Office, throw in IM, and server storage, and make it work well on crap hardware.
It's the kind of turn-key integration that will take quite a while longer to realize using FOSS.
Truly, the pieces are all there, but getting them all to work as smoothly is non-trivial.

Mistake: (4, Funny)

rdc_uk (792215) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900187)

"It will be _interesting_ to see what direction Groove takes now."

I believe you have mis-typed "bloody obvious and deeply depressing" in that sentence.

Re:Mistake: (1)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900227)

That's the first thing that crossed my mind when I read the summary. The only thing interesting would be if it didn't follow the obvious path.
-nB

Re:Mistake: (3, Interesting)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900238)

Yes, but given that this guy will be made CTO of Microsoft obviously they are interesting in his ideas and where he can take Microsoft. May mean good things for Microsoft as a whole.

Re:Mistake: (4, Insightful)

justforaday (560408) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900264)

...or it's simply an indication of what it takes to buy this guy out...

Re:Mistake: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900383)

Interesting to know how well other shareholders did - or if this title was the bulk of what MSFT "paid".

Re:Mistake: (1)

ksheff (2406) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900398)

Yep. Buy a product, strip mine it for anything useful, and then kill it.

Re:Mistake: (4, Insightful)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900459)

Well they are apparently going to incorperate it into Office and other products. Obviously once this is done the exising product will no longer have any use. Given Microsofts history obviously any non MS products won't work.. Though I don't know what apps the current application supports now anyways, guess I should give it a try.

Re:Mistake: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900565)

like trying to push two opposing magnets together i don't think its possible to have 'good things' and 'Microsoft' in the same sentence

Yawn... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900193)

Another day, another assimilation.

Wow. The God of Notes switches sides. (5, Interesting)

ip_freely_2000 (577249) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900204)

There are a TON of people using Lotus Notes. It's only recently that Exchange has exceeded Notes in number of seats used. For the developers and admins working on Notes, this is the equivalent of Linus saying "What the heck, Server 2003 ain't that bad. Let me join up."

Benefits of the Notes creator (2, Insightful)

Soukyan (613538) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900241)

But since Exchange only recently exceeded Notes, wouldn't it be fair to say that Ray Ozzie can bring his expertise to the table and make Exchange that much better? I think that's one of the improvements we'll see.

Re:Benefits of the Notes creator (1)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900309)

wouldn't it be fair to say that Ray Ozzie can bring his expertise to the table and make Exchange that much better?

Glib answer: Have you ever seen Lotus Notes?

(In fairness, though, Groove is pretty nice. Either the nightmarishness of Notes isn't Ray Ozzie's fault or he's learned something in the meantime.)

Re:Benefits of the Notes creator (2, Insightful)

njcoder (657816) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900444)

I don't think IBM has been doing much with Lotus Notes lately. A little bit with Domino server but even there it conflicts too much with WebSphere. I think IBM really dropped the ball with lotus notes.

Re:Benefits of the Notes creator (2, Insightful)

3waygeek (58990) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900535)

Of course IBM dropped the ball, just like they did with Lotus' other products e.g. SmartSuite.

Re:Wow. The God of Notes switches sides. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900267)

You must be kidding...the only thing I hate worse than Outlook is Notes!

What a kludgy piece of crap.

Re:Wow. The God of Notes switches sides. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900277)

Notes isn't an issue, Microsoft is buying Groove. Ozzie is on record as saying that that the Notes workflow-based architecture is largely obsolete.

Re:Wow. The God of Notes switches sides. (2, Insightful)

IgnoramusMaximus (692000) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900331)

There are a TON of people using Lotus Notes. It's only recently that Exchange has exceeded Notes in number of seats used.

You neglected to mention that Notes has the dubious priviledge of being hated by both users and admins, while Exchange even though being pain for admins, is generally well received by corporate users. Notes was an unwieldy, diseased, monster. Most sane corporations have long replaced it with HTTP based systems combined with IMAP servers or Exchange.

Hope springs eternal! (1)

w.p.richardson (218394) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900344)

Now perhaps we can dump the eternally crappy Lotus Notes here at the office in favor of something a bit more full featured.

Like elm. Or Zmail. Or carrier pigeons. Or anything other than Lotus Notes. Nothing ruins your day like the red box of death [everything2.org]!

Re:Hope springs eternal! (0, Flamebait)

IgnoramusMaximus (692000) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900430)

Now perhaps we can dump the eternally crappy Lotus Notes here at the office in favor of something a bit more full featured.

Be careful. This is Slashdot. Most of the mods here havn't seen LotusNotes and probably think its a fancy notepad. And to them every software developer is a genius. I just got troll-rated down the thread for saying negative things about this abomniation...

Re:Wow. The God of Notes switches sides. (1)

skraps (650379) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900361)

Don't forget that a huge installed base does not imply technical superiority (as we all well know with the case of Internet Explorer).
So this is more like one of the chief Windows architects jumping ship to go work on Linux, and being given a salary that exceeds the GDP of many small countries.

Re:Wow. The God of Notes switches sides. (3, Interesting)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900488)

There are a TON of people using Lotus Notes. It's only recently that Exchange has exceeded Notes in number of seats used. For the developers and admins working on Notes, this is the equivalent of Linus saying "What the heck, Server 2003 ain't that bad. Let me join up."

Hmmm. Then how shall we explain all of the people that have begged us consultants to pry them loose from the Lotus Notes Grip Of Doom and get them onto an Exchange platform? I've never, ever, once, been asked about going the other direction, and have not seen a single organization starting from scratch and thinking: "Can't wait to start using Notes!"

Nope, for most non-technical businesses, it's Exchange, SharePoint, and a rent-a-brain to get it into shape... and then, really, not much work at all for anyone other than a luke-warm admin body.

This should be a great thing for Groove. (4, Informative)

Sheetrock (152993) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900207)

And for Office users in general. Microsoft appears to be taking seriously the concept of the remote office, and seems to be pushing NetMeeting more vigorously -- Groove would fit into this scheme quite nicely, and permit a level of interoperability with other groupware vendors Microsoft has lacked to this point.

Conversely, Groove gets to present its unique approach to a larger audience than ever before, as well as having better access to improve and extend its compatibility with Microsoft products.

It's an exciting time for laptop warriors, that's for sure! Never before has this level of versatility been offered.

MS Press Release (5, Informative)

jmcmurry (3759) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900209)

Here's a press release [microsoft.com] from Microsoft with more information and some Q&A with Ozzie and Jeff Raikes, Microsoft group vice president of their Information Worker Business group.

Re:MS Press Release (1)

carcajou (862125) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900525)

I read the press release...Doesn't sound to me like Ozzie is changing sides or anything...looks like Groove was always in bed with Microsoft...

heh. (0, Troll)

Heian-794 (834234) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900210)

Yeah, Slashdot! There are people here with thousands of posts and replies who haven't yet once RTFA. And you want to ruin their streaks?

OS X then? (3, Interesting)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900211)

So if Microsoft will be incorporating these elements into Microsoft Office, will that include the OS X line? Right now I use Virtual PC to connect with my coworkers in our various Groove spaces (and while I know there are some OS X third party tools to connect to Groove shares, they're not exactly the same - besides, I'd have to get my company to pay an extra fee, and they're not going to do *that* just for me).

Groove is an interesting and pretty secure P2P system, and I wouldn't mind being able to use it without having to fire up a second OS on my Powerbook just to use it.

Re:OS X then? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900395)


Yes.

When Apple was close to death MS made a very strong commitment to Office on the Mac, and it has been true to that commitment ever since.

As long as Linux and regulators exist, MS will continue to prop up Apple.

Re:OS X then? (1)

pixelgeek (676892) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900476)

-- So if Microsoft will be incorporating these elements into Microsoft Office, will that include the OS X line?

You can answer that question by trying to find a copy of Access in the Mac version of Office.

App with competitive advantage == no Mac port

Lotus Notes (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900218)

From the school of absurd design limitations:

"Nobody will ever need more than nine windows open" -- RO

Re:Lotus Notes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900303)

You know, as one of my bosses once said:

"Lotus Notes: one of the greatest distributed databases in the world...oh, yeah, and it does e-mail too."

that one has gone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900546)

went ages ago. It was a bit odd I will admit. The oddest thing about it was that Lotus said it was a limitation of the underlying operating system. That I never understood. Anyhow, please don't critisise an app for bugs/limitations which have not existed for the past 5 years or so.

Microsoft "innovates" again! (3, Funny)

cosjef (247890) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900234)

Wow, they must REALLY be running out of ideas to sell more copies of Office.

This is great news for OOo.

Mod parent +1 Insighful (1)

ewe2 (47163) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900540)

Nothing funny about it, MS is resorting to buying its innovation in the form of developers of other major software; it's indicative of how difficult it is for the major companies to move anywhere. MS has real trouble unless it can continue to support the OS platform; this is another attempt to shore up the dam, and not a bad one.

It's not so good for OOo. per se, but the whole FOSS movement indirectly benefits as the market differentation smooths out. IOW, if the only alternative is MS, it's much easier to sell your solution if it has sufficient utility.

Groovy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900237)

Groovy
I have no clue what Groove does (or care), but I just wanted to say "Groovy, Baby."

Hello DOJ? Are you people asleep? WAKETF UP! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900248)

How is it that MS keeps AQUIRING ANYTHING?
Could someone PLEASE tell me WTF is going on in Washington?
This is getting nuts. LET THE MONOPOLISTS KEEP MONOPOLIZING MARKETS. It's all good. :P

Re:Hello DOJ? Are you people asleep? WAKETF UP! (1, Troll)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900332)

Because the US government is too cowardly to do what is needed, and start cutting this company into pieces.

Re:Hello DOJ? Are you people asleep? WAKETF UP! (1)

Yaa 101 (664725) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900474)

You probably just had a civil-servant as mod...

Re:Hello DOJ? Are you people asleep? WAKETF UP! (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900507)

Or very likely an MS employee. But he/she/it can mod me down all he/she/it wants, I stand by what I see. MS is a convicted monopolist, and it's ludicrous that not only does it survive intact, but it's still munching down on companies. At some point someone is going to have to do something serious.

Guess I can delete it now (1)

jj_johny (626460) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900249)

I was exploring and using it to explore colloboration. With MS buying it, I now know that it will never go to other platforms - Mac, Linux. Oh well.....

He is the creator of Lotus Notes? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900254)

Given my experience with Lotus Notes, Microsoft has some work to do.

You know, adding things like automatic virus loading, extremely slow message filtering, brain-dead mail search, and so on. ;-)

what on earth are you talking about? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900379)

I have never seen a Notes virus, it wouldn't be impossible but the execution control list would stop it doing anything, no idea what you are on about with message filtering and searching. My mail file is about 2GB and full text searches over the whole thing are sub-second. Outlook doesn't have built in full text search, and yes it does do automatic virus loading.

Re:what on earth are you talking about? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900461)

Are you retarded? Try reading the entire message before you respond. MICROSOFT HAS SOME WORK TO DO. Asshat.

ok, I still can't parse your syntax (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900515)

but at least we are in agreement. Outlook sucks, Notes rocks.

Good Riddance (3, Insightful)

IgnoramusMaximus (692000) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900258)

Lotus Notes was universally hated throughout every corporation I came in contact with, IBM included. The only people who hyped this thing were marketing drones, "visionary CTOs" and pointy-haired bosses.

Virtually all functions of LotusNotes are better served by other technologies, like the classic Apache/PHP/SQL combos etc. (Keep in mind that LotusNotes evolved in parallel with the WWW but most corporations were completely unaware of HTTP until Microsoft "discovered" it)

It is quite amusing to me that someone would proudly take credit for the creation of that monster. I think it goes to show tha there is no such thing as bad publicity for self-promoting "geniuses" ....

YOU STUPID MODS, PARENT IS NOT A TROLL!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900322)

IgnoramusMaximus is just playing the part of John the Baptist here...the truth needs to be told!

Hey everybody! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900440)

It's another pointless opinion by gaylord Maximus.

Re:Good Riddance (3, Insightful)

IgnoramusMaximus (692000) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900517)

Good Riddance (Score:-1, Troll)

This concludes the test of how many of Slashdotters actually ever saw LotusNotes... obviously none with mod points.

Just Goes To Show (1)

Master of Transhuman (597628) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900262)


Offer somebody some money and a stupid title and they'll pimp out their mothers.

Anybody betting Ozzie won't last a year at Microsoft?

Re:Just Goes To Show (1)

kawika (87069) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900526)

I will gladly take that bet. If Ray Ozzie had not wanted the deal to go through, it would not have happened. And they definitely would not have made him CTO at Microsoft. He's been at large companies before, so the corporate environment and its politics certainly shouldn't scare him.

I have used Lotus Notes, just briefly, and can say it is by far the worst mission-critical application I have ever used. So perhaps this deal gives Microsoft haters have something to be optimistic about.

MS-centricity can only get worse (4, Insightful)

FreeBSDbigot (162899) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900266)

Groove always seemed to be one of those really, really cool solutions, if only it weren't so tied to MS Office, Outlook, and Windows. Obviously that won't get any better now that MS owns Groove.

The New CTO is the big acquisition... (5, Insightful)

MLopat (848735) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900308)

While most of you probably don't care much about the products Groove Networks have in their suite, the real story here in Microsoft acquiring a new CTO. This man has an impressive track record in the technology field. He is responsible for the creation of Lotus Notes, a technology that Microsoft Exchange is just starting to catch up to both in features and install base. 100 Million people use his technology worldwide. He is also rated among the top five developers of the century.

This article has more to do with Microsoft continuing to build an impressive array of innovators and visionaries to carry the company for another 20 years. If they happen to integrate a few of his company's technologies into the current Office suite, that's just a bonus.

Re:The New CTO is the big acquisition... (1)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900485)

Agreed, it's definitely the bigger news here. I for one am all for the replacement of the current MS regime with people who have proven track records of doing innovative things. I'm a firm believer that no matter how many companies Microsoft acquires, they'll still fall behind to the forward thinking groups like Apple. It's the people that count, and (excuse me while I blue sky for a moment) maybe we'll start seeing some actual bonafide innovation in Microsoft's products now.

Knowing when to quit (1)

buckhead_buddy (186384) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900552)

Like a good watercolor painter, I think Ray Ozzie's talent I admire most is knowing when to stop. In the technology world, it's easy to get consumed by adding just one more thing or moving just a bit more. Knowing when is the best time to abandon ship or to keep going is tough. In some ways it's the lesson that makes Steve Jobs a good marketer in my mind.

On the other hand, I think this sale shows that Ray Ozzy's main interest is in satisfying Ray Ozzy. A title is just a title; will Ray have real power and be happy? Will he really be able to do things that he wants to do? Is his goal really to help Microsoft or just to help his own business goals by making a bigger name for himself and abandoning them in 5 years time to start his own super-company?

Will they merge this into office? (1)

blanks (108019) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900319)

I can see this happening as this will be the next big release of office to get sales up again.

I have seen many treads relating to office features being minimal, and releases being very few. Maybe this would be a new release with a outlook/word/lotus notes mirgration.

Who knows (note I havent kept up with lotus notes in about 5 years) maybe with the migration of those 3 items they would be able to create a very nice system for communication as well as sharing documents accross offices etc etc.

But then again maybe they will just keep them seperate.

What direction? (2, Funny)

argent (18001) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900321)

It will be interesting to see what direction Groove takes now.

"Dude, you're going to hell."

Here's your handbasket.

Might be a good time to check out... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900325)

Hula [hula-project.org]

what direction Groove takes now. (2, Funny)

R.Caley (126968) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900327)

Down then up a bit then waaaaaay down.

Toilets outlets are always shaped that way to keep the stink down.

Big Bill? (1)

qqod (799432) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900330)

Isn't Bill Gates the current CTO of microsoft? what happens to him. I reckon his redundancy package is probably alright though.

So how much did Microsoft pay? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900405)

I skimmed TFA and didn't see it.

Just another weak collaboration tool (2, Interesting)

0xDEADC0DE (130071) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900408)

I don't care how easy it is to chat and share files, that does not really make teams work that well together. Teams need to be sharing the right information that actually helps them reach decisions.

One groupware "tool" for developers that I have been really happy with is http://readyset.tigris.org/ [tigris.org].

Interesting New Directions (2, Insightful)

lousyd (459028) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900422)

It will be interesting to see what direction Groove takes now.

No it won't. We all know what direction Groove will take now.

Thought from a CLP-P (1)

LoaTao (826152) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900443)

The thing that Notes does (and apparently Groove's Virtual Office does) that MS does not do well is replicate. Ozzie knows replication so it sounds to me like MS has decided to hire in someone to help them figure it out.

Same old story... (1)

Tufriast (824996) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900458)

1. Buy original content at blow out prices.
2. ??????
3. Profit !
Man those underpants Gnomes sure have taught M$ a lot in the last decade.

I knew this, but I can't do it (2, Insightful)

Capt James McCarthy (860294) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900462)

1) create product that creates compatablity between 'deep pocketed' competitors products
2) wait for one or the other to purchase your company to control said compatablity functionality

Simple, yet genius. Although, once again, I am probably wrong.

This will do wonders for MS' UI design (1)

TimeZone (658837) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900506)

Lotus Notes has about the worst UI I've ever had to deal with. Not to mention the arcana involved in actually using groupware databases on Dominos servers. ugh. The only thing I've used that's worse is FrameMaker. Two applications that I have to use every day and totally hate. I begged them to let me use OpenOffice, but to no avail.

TZ

MS buy-out was the plan from day one (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11900514)

This should not be a surprise to anyone who worked there or anyone they tried to recruit. (Hi there!) The Beverly, MA company was a 100% Microsoft house from the beginning with no provisions for Linux, UNIX or anything else. Why eschew crossplatform? Why use only MS for development? Why care so much about being single-platform when companies don't care about what runs back-office software? The answer is in today's headlines.

Microsoft bought who? (1)

Jon Abbott (723) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900532)

When I first glanced at the artitle, I thought it said "Microsoft to Acquire Google"... [shudder]

iFolder (1)

Ecio (824876) | more than 9 years ago | (#11900568)

I've never heard anything about this Groove, btw the site says:
"Groove Virtual Office - Virtual office software for sharing files, projects and data."

And that reminds me Novell iFolder...
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