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Shufflephones 2.0

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the status-symbology dept.

Hardware Hacking 147

Photo_Designer writes "After hacking my first pair of headphones to accept an iPod Shuffle, I just couldn't keep my hands off my other set of headphones and hacked an iPod shuffle adapter inside them, too. This version also includes an all-new expansion jack which allows sharing your music on the go, plugging your Shuffle into a stereo with a patch cable (without removing it from the phones), and also allows the headphones to be used as regular phones with the shuffle removed or turned off."

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FROSTY PISS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11997662)

Pour me a tall one, Spock!

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11997674)

lucky you - i've to hack my head to fit 'em into my current headphones

How come no-one (4, Insightful)

odaen (766778) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997677)

Has got round to putting the buttons on the outside. Surely you don't want to remove your headphones whenever a song you don't feel like comes on. Now do this mod with a Zen Micro and I'm interested.

Re:How come no-one (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11998510)

Why would I put a song I didn't like on my shuffle?

I... (4, Funny)

matticus (93537) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997682)

I can't help but laugh at how funny people would look wearing headphones tethered to each other's ears. Is this a new trend? Love will bind us together, and also our headphones?

Re:I... (0)

WebHostingGuy (825421) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997778)

Rob Lowe and Demi Moore did this (tethered headsets) in a movie called About Last Night. They ended up having sex (then again when doesn't Rob not end up having sex). It seemed to work pretty good as a move in the movie (better than yawning and stretching your arm).

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On another note, it looks like he did a nice job, but from one Shuffle owner to another, the thing I like best about the Shuffle is that it is so small I can stuff it easily into my pocket and move along. Stuffing the Shuffle into huge headsets seems to be at the exact opposite of its advantage. Oh well, to each their own.

Re:I... (1)

orangesquid (79734) | more than 9 years ago | (#11999479)

Agreed. If he made a sleek, sexy headpiece where the iPod shuffle was mounted to a small headset, I'd be in love. (I mean, if I liked it, and owned an iPod shuffle, I guess I'd be in love, to the extent that a man can love a machine that does not know the difference between Circle Jerks and Backstreet Boys.)

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I'm curious about this question [mac.com] :
Am I the only person who always strips wires with my teeth?

No, Mr. Younkin, I can assure you that you are not.

On a side note, your answering machine was full, so we could not leave a reminder. Your next dental checkup is Wednesday at 10:30 A.M.

Re:I... (1)

CrazyTalk (662055) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998281)

Hardly - when the original walkmans hit it big in the early 80s, this was quite a popular thing to do for awhile.

iPod in the headphones? (4, Funny)

EvilCabbage (589836) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997687)

Apart from bashing me in the side of the head, and making it essentially impossible to interact with the volume or track selection without taking them off, are there other bad points I'm missing in this?

Re:iPod in the headphones? (5, Funny)

MP3Chuck (652277) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997710)

You get the walk down the street, singing along with headphones that don't appear to be plugged into anything!

Re:iPod in the headphones? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11997720)

Yeah, this hack is not for the big of ear amongst us.

Re:iPod in the headphones? (1)

reub2000 (705806) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997767)

You don't get the iPod style, that most people buy an ipod for.

Re:iPod in the headphones? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11998192)

People keep saying that, but I've yet to meet anybody who has bought an iPod for the "style" of it.

Re:iPod in the headphones? (0)

wed128 (722152) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998280)

Every Sorority Girl Ever. Being a college student, i've noticed the trend. God damn pink minis.

Re:iPod in the headphones? (5, Informative)

That's Unpossible! (722232) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997768)

Yes, on one side you will only hear half of the music, due to the iPod shuffle blocking the speaker.

Re:iPod in the headphones? (2, Insightful)

ciroknight (601098) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997881)

I just don't get why he didn't cut a small hole in the bottom of the headphone to allow the Shuffle to slide in and out of the big hollow chamber behind the speakercone of the headphone when he had it open.. other than the obvious fact it wouldn't look seemless.

Re:iPod in the headphones? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998341)

probably not a problem. it doesn't look like it blocks the actual speaker.

Re:iPod in the headphones? (1)

theVP (835556) | more than 9 years ago | (#11999392)

Better yet! If you're skinny enough (like me) you can wrap the headphones around one of your thighs, and then listen to your music via that super-duper "expansion jack"! And the iPod is just as useless there as it is when you have the headphones strapped to your head, because you have to take it off to do anything! Who wouldn't want that??

You guys are far too critical of this advancement of super-scientificalness.

Re:iPod in the headphones? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11997774)

Add No shot of ever getting laid [mac.com] to the list

Re:iPod in the headphones? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11997839)

(posted AC to prevent people from pictures of my sorry arse in my 1337 b10g)

How bout the blockage of sound? (2, Insightful)

krunk4ever (856261) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997825)

I think the biggest disappointment of all would be the actual sound quality. these look like decent headphones, but the iPod Shuffle seems to be block almost half of the speakers for one of the ears. this personally will distort the audio and unbalance one of the ears.

Re:How bout the blockage of sound? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11998373)

Uhhh...decent? They're $10 pieces of crap!

Re:How bout the blockage of sound? (1)

Synbiosis (726818) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998907)

Uhhh...decent? They're $10 pieces of crap!

And I bet they sound even worse with have of a shuffle blocking the right channel. An interesting idea in concept, but a horrible idea in practice.

Shuffle???? (-1, Redundant)

Xenna (37238) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997689)

Why, with all the hundreds of flash based MP3 players out there, has 'shuffle' suddenly become the generic name for them?

Geez...

Re:Shuffle???? (1)

ch3 (701440) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997771)

Because, if you had RTFA, you would have seen that the guy actually used a iPod Shuffle for his hack (it is also written in the blurb).
So in this specific case, it is not a generic MP3 player...

It might sell... (3, Insightful)

two-tail (803696) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997690)

A worthwhile retail product. Although I'd prefer one that has the shuffle buttons on the outer case of the headphones. Of course, that means that someone next to you could sneak up behind you and change tracks! (would be nice if the new jack was line-level; better for stereo connections)

Re:It might sell... (1)

comwiz56 (447651) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997719)

Too bad iPods don't have line out connections.

They do, but you need a dock (1)

two-tail (803696) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997777)

They may not have a direct line out connection, but a line-out connection can be provided through the Dock interface. The docks distributed with the 3rd-generation iPods (when they first came out) included line out connections.

Supposedly one could determine which three lines from a dock connection provide the line out signal & run them into a headphone jack.

Re:They do, but you need a dock (2, Informative)

clarkcox3 (194009) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998138)

Supposedly one could determine which three lines from a dock connection provide the line out signal & run them into a headphone jack.
If you hold the iPod in your hand, screen towards you, pin 1 is the leftmost pin. Pins 2,3 and 4 are ground, right and left respectively.

Re:It might sell... (3, Interesting)

ciroknight (601098) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997800)

I agree wholeheartedly. One of the most annoying parts about having an iPod is the headphone cable. Where I'm usually towing around my iBook, it gets entangled almost every time I take it off/put it on. I'd love to have a pair of headphones with a set of iPod buttons on the side of them, and with a built-in iPod Shuffle dock in the bottom (sorta so it would just slide up and plug into a female USB port inside). Sell 'em for $40-$50 bucks a pop and they'll sell like wildfire. Of course, all you'd have to do to steal one then would be nab someone's headphones.. and an option for a fullsized iPod would be rediculous..

Re:It might sell... (3, Insightful)

ciroknight (601098) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997925)

Grr, I effing hate that /. doesn't have an edit post button, but...

What if they built Bluetooth 2 into the iPod? I know it wouldn't be effective for transfering songs because it's so damned slow, but what it would be effective for is WIRELESS BLUETOOTH HEADPHONES. That way there's no need to over-engineer a pair of headphones and you can keep the iPod in your pocket. They could even build a little module that plugs into the "iTrip" port on the current iPods to give them bluetooth. Beats the hell out of carrying around a pair of AM/FM headphones, an iTrip and an iPod.

Re:It might sell... (1)

glyneth (47975) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997949)

Smartwrap [ipodx.co.uk] . Has saved my cord from being thrown out with the tangle frustration.

Re:It might sell... (1)

ciroknight (601098) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998175)

Sadly, this doesn't help with it getting tangled around my laptop bag though ;)

Re:It might sell... (2, Informative)

springbox (853816) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998135)

TDK already made hardware [cnet.com] that is more compact than this. It's an audio player (have to convert MP3s or WMAs to a special format) that has 128MB of flash memory.. Anyway, it might not be the ideal solution, but you still can get the same effect of "singing along with headphones that don't appear to be plugged into anything."

Good idea, one improvement (1)

tentimestwenty (693290) | more than 9 years ago | (#11999327)

Ya, this would be perfect if you could somehow hold the controls in your hand, like a remote control for the headphones. That might be hard to do wirelessly, but with a wire it might just work. Then you could switch tracks easily AND adjust the volume without having to take off your headphones!

Dammit! (1)

CdBee (742846) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997695)

I saw "Apple" and "..phone.." and thought the iPhone had been announced at last, with a silly name...

Re:Dammit! (1)

Ohreally_factor (593551) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998371)

Yeah, they call them head phones, because they're only for stoners.

Re:Dammit! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11998861)

The new iPhone Shuffle from Apple - randomly dials numbers from your contact list when you go to make a call.

Hmm, useful.

Re:Dammit! (1)

suitepotato (863945) | more than 9 years ago | (#11999284)

And as with the mouse, will have half as many buttons as you expect a phone to have. Steve Jobs will call it insanely great. Logitech, et al, will provide a version with twice as many buttons as you expect. It will be met with deafening silence by Apple.

The very concept that the iPod still has wires all about it is kind of funny though. OTOH, maybe Apple is worried about people sharing iPods with Bluetooth? Somewhat silly thought but not beyond anything else.

Could Steve Jobs slap you with a large iTrout.. (0, Troll)

Fr4ncis (763671) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997699)

.. this hack is neither stylish nor functional, you can't really be a Mac user.. shame on your iPod!

Re:Could Steve Jobs slap you with a large iTrout.. (1)

Elranzer (851411) | more than 9 years ago | (#11999369)

Well you know, it does have one advantage. You can look like a hairy Princess Leia with this hack.

ishuffle/pod etc (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11997703)

I find the lack of a radio in these products very annoying and one of the reasons i have not bothered to buy one. The Creative Zen 5 gig on the other hand looks like the baby i'll go for. There a link to it;s spec here [komplett.ie]

Next Up (5, Funny)

LittleGuernica (736577) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997707)

Thats looks pretty useless...no easy access to controls and the comfort of a plastic stick to your ear blocking the headphones.. Looks like a great time waster though.. Next up, he will mod a Mac mini into his beard, which will then monitor the bacteria accumulation in it and send an email when it's time to take a shower..

Re:Next Up (5, Insightful)

thatnerdguy (551590) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997818)

but its an ipod shuffle: the whole point is that you can just press play and leave it. That's what I do. You dont need too much access to controls.

"Groudn down screwdriver" (5, Funny)

lisaparratt (752068) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997708)

I know I'm only a girl, and therefore stereotypically bad with tools, but isn't a ground down screwdriver called an awl?

Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" (2, Informative)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997739)

yes :)

Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" (4, Funny)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997740)

I'll let you use my ground down screwdriver awl night long baby!
Ow!
I'll go back to my lonely corner of shame now......

Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" (0)

Kiffer (206134) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997764)

Man... I'm amazed you did'nt even bother posting AC...

Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" (2, Insightful)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997907)

What is the point of having good karma if you can't waste it on something that stupid once in a while? Having the extra bonus ensures a lot more readers than if I were to go AC

Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" (2, Funny)

jerometremblay (513886) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998634)

With the added bonus that you can sometimes get it back right away in the same thread. :)

Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 9 years ago | (#11999227)

What is the point of having good karma if you can't waste it on something that stupid once in a while?

You're meant to use the good karma bonus to allow other people to benefit from your deep insights and informative comments without having to wade through as much dross.

Yeah, it doesn't work for me either.

Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" (1)

The Slashdot Guy (793685) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997770)

He's a mac user, cut him some slack.

Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11997843)

Look at his beard....

that should explain his inability.

Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11997910)

Or a 'nuffin'.

Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" (0)

rathehun (818491) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997984)

Well - what are you doing on /. then?

Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" (1, Funny)

CrazyTalk (662055) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998309)

I've never done any time, but I thought it was called a "shiv"

Re:"Groudn down screwdriver" (1)

khrtt (701691) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998853)

A ground down screwdriver is a ground down screwdriver, even though its called an awl.

Dissapointing. (1)

gnoos (828264) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997712)

I read the title and thought Apple had released the Shufflephone. I had visions of uploading all my numbers on it it and it continuosly dialing random people. Great.

That's nothing (5, Funny)

zecg (521666) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997722)

I have hacked my girlfriend to accept me hacking all her stuff to accept iPod Shuffle.

Re:That's nothing (1)

Ohreally_factor (593551) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998389)

If you had followed the instructions and just used a ground down screwdriver, you could have just stabbed her. Much less clean up afterwards.

Re:That's nothing (1)

jvl001 (229079) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998748)

A /.-er with a girlfriend! Now we know you're just making that part up.

Hey! (1, Funny)

B1ackDragon (543470) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997744)

No need to demolish perfectly useful equipment for small parts (3.5mm stereo jack) any more my friend...

Just buy a few from Digi-Key [digikey.com] and be set for life!

Mac users... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11997750)

...are so much cooler than PC users.

Factory production? (3, Interesting)

TERdON (862570) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997754)

Interesting solution, but not very neat. Not having the cable for the player seems great. It would be more interesting to see factory-made headphones with included flash mp3 player. That would make a more fancy solution. However, I'm not sure that would really happen - most people who use headphones are rather nittpicky about the quality of them...

Re:Factory production? (1)

mikey_boy (125590) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997826)

well there's always the oakley thump sunglasses [oakley.com] - not so helpful in the dark, but certainly more practical than the hack. Pity about the capacity of course ;-)

Re:Factory production? (1)

reub2000 (705806) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997830)

I think somebody already made one. Not really sure who, but I think it was RCA. Now if they could make something smaller, so it could be easy to hide in a hoodie.

These must sound awful... (1)

Serious Simon (701084) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997805)

In the pictures I see these headphones use the type of cheap speakers as found in small transistor radios, instead of proper headphone drivers.

It's a funny idea, but don't expect anywhere near decent audio quality.

ouch (3, Insightful)

Keruo (771880) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997809)

I bet his ears hurt after few hours of listening, that ipod stuck between the cushion must feel awful.

He should use something like this [atruereview.com] instead

Someone needs to.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11997822)

buy the author a razor or show him how to shave.

Cripes, what is it with people too lazy to have a properly trimmed beard?

get nutz, get fancy, but looking like an unwahsed and unshaved geek is not trendy or good looking.

Re:Someone needs to.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11998136)

You'll understand one day when you can grow a beard, too.

dOol7 (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11997842)

driven out by the recent article put and sold In the When I stood for

Street cred? (5, Insightful)

BrK (39585) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997850)

How exactly do old-ass headphones give you "street cred".

Not to mention this whole "hack" is so non-Apple. There is no "style" to it, and it's cumbersome. Not to mention that the Shuffle in one of the ear cups probably affects the sound quality a bit.

I'm also a little tired of the "hack" moniker being thrown around so readily. Soldering a couple of wires together is not a "hack" in most cases, it's just... well... soldering.

Take the shuffle apart, integrate its electronics into the headphones, and port the controls and I/O to the outside, keeping the same layout so that the headphones have a "hint of shuffle" to them (maybe even paint the headphones a nice eggshell white). THAT would be closer to a hack, IMO.

Re:Street cred? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11998154)

Y'know, you're perfectly able to go out and improve upon this, if you have such a problem with it. No need to be so negative and jealous (that's what it sounds like, anyways.. "no fair, he actually did something simple that everyone thought of and now he's getting the credit and fame!").

Re:Street cred? (4, Insightful)

reaper (10065) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998161)

I'm also a little tired of the "hack" moniker being thrown around so readily. Soldering a couple of wires together is not a "hack" in most cases, it's just... well... soldering.

Dude, this is a hack in the purest sense of the word. Dirty, cheap, and barely viable for the desired outcome, and done with stuff lying around. Back in the long-long ago times, on alt.hack, every post had to have a hack listed, so even though some people listed these elaborate hacks, a lot of them were of the "duct taped this contraption to that one, and you could use it to hold a cup of coffee!" variety.

No one ever questioned the validity of those hacks.

Re:Street cred? (0)

BrK (39585) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998196)

I'm familiar with alt.hack as well. But I'd like the think that we have progressed a little. I know there are 1000 bits that can be taped, glued, and/or soldered together to make other interesting bits, but that doesn't mean they are noteworthy.

We either need a new word that is like hack++ to differentiate the real interesting hacks from the lame ones, or we need a word that would be more like --hack for the entry-level hacks.

Re:Street cred? (1)

TargetBoy (322020) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998449)

Or we need to ignore whiney elitist bitches and enjoy the neat stuff that people do.

Re:Street cred? (1)

BrK (39585) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998573)

You're right, this is more of a "neat stuff" than a "hack".

Re:Street cred? (1)

greed (112493) | more than 9 years ago | (#11999046)

We've already got 'kludge' for the entry-level stuff.

But, as others pointed out, there's nothing beautiful about a traditional hack. Think programming with an axe, if you like.

Mind you, to do that, you often need to know a lot about how all the pieces you're hitting with that axe all fit together.

Something elegant is called a 'product'.

Re:Street cred? (2, Interesting)

Didion Sprague (615213) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998779)

Saying that this is no "hack" is like going into a muesem, pointing at the all-black canvas, and saying, "Hey, that's not art. I could do that."

Point is, you *didn't* do it and someone else did.

What, you paint a bunch of haystacks at sunset and that's art? But some guy's splotch painting *isn't* art?

Says you.

*shrug*

The guy that did this, did it. Whether or not it's a "hack" (according to your definition) is beside the point.

Re:Street cred? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11999152)

Not to mention this whole "hack" is so non-Apple. There is no "style" to it, and it's cumbersome

Not to mention he should have used some Yuppie-I'm-better-than-you brand of overpriced headphones to listen to his highly compressed music on.

Introducing... (-1, Redundant)

pshuke (845050) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997894)

The iPhone Shuffle!
Calls your friends (and maybe your boss) at random times, in random order. The new random order. Enjoy the uncertainty.

(Sorry, didn't RTFAS)

Re:Introducing... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11998185)

The only thing that's sad about not reading the article this time is that there really is not much of an article. The page is just a bunch of pictures and you would only need to look at a few of them to get the idea of what's going on.

Goddammit! (1, Insightful)

agraupe (769778) | more than 9 years ago | (#11997939)

This is a pretty cool hack, but I'm getting more and more pissed about this iPod Shuffle. About a year ago, I bought a Creative MuVo. I figured, hey, it's about a quarter of the price, works easily with linux, and can double as a flash drive. Suddenly, everyone has an iPod or some other non-flash-based player, and I look like an idiot. What the fuck did apple do to have such control over the mp3 player market? I mean, being rather satisfied with my current player, I can't imagine what the shuffle does better, as the only thing I want on mine is ogg support, which the shuffle does not have either. Why does apple, traditionally the company of great expense an zealous fanboys, suddenly have such mass market appeal, compared to its competitors? Why do people act like Apple was the first people to make mp3 players?

Question you should be asking... (2, Insightful)

Brando_Calrisean (755640) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998008)

Why does this piss you off?

Re:Goddammit! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11998067)

Because ...

1) It works well with iTunes and the MuVo doesn't work so well. Last time I tried I rendered a MuVo unusable and had to reformat it with a Windows only program. There wasn't a Mac or Linux program to reformat it.

2) it's cheaper than the competition

3) It's got style

4) It's got marketing

5) It works with the best online store

6) It's got a really simple no fuss interface

7) It's got better software - iTunes

I've not tried it yet, but iTunes can downshift the bitrate to 128 AAC when it copies MP3 and AAC files to the Shuffle. Since iTunes supports OGG with a quicktime plugin it may also do that for OGG. Maybe others can confirm that. Whilst that's not direct support, it would be enough for most people.

Re:Goddammit! (2, Insightful)

Ohreally_factor (593551) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998444)

If your player works for you, what's to be angry about? Has anyone denied you admittance to a restaurant because your player wasn't an iPod? Been turned down for a job because your earphone wires weren't white?

From your reference to "zealous fanboys", I might guess that Apple's success is sticking in your craw. I hope I'm wrong about that, because if that's the case, it would indicate that you've got unresolved personal issues.

Don't worry too much (1)

khrtt (701691) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998795)

iPod shuffle is a piece of crap, and the people who have it are all idiots. I mean, the darn thing doesn't even let you choose the album to play. One must be a real bumbling bee to buy sumthing like that:-)

Re:Goddammit! (4, Informative)

2nd Post! (213333) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998882)

Several points:
When has cheaper ever meant better? Cheaper, by definition, means cheaper. Do you like looking cheap? Being called cheap? Would you date someone cheap?

The iPod, as a non flash based player, has one advantages:
Storage capacity
Price

The iPod, as a non Creative part, has two advantages:
UI
Software

And then you ask, "What did Apple do to have such control...?" Some would answer 'marketing', and that's correct. Apple has adverts on TV and in print. The Practice had an episode two years ago where one lawyer said in court, "I would hate to live in a world where we are all plugged into iPods and ignoring each other. A little bit of noise is good sometimes."

Then you ask what the Shuffle does better: It's cheaper. $89 for 256mb from Creative or $99 for 512mb from Apple. It uses iTunes, which is free if you want to see why it's better than Creative Nomad Exlorer (or whatever they call it now).

Finally you ask, "Why do people act like Apple was the first people to make mp3 players?"

The answer is, Apple was the first to make a portable high capacity high usability mp3 player.

The Apple iPod did four great things when it was released that no one else had ever done:
Make something the size of a pack of cigarettes that could store more than 256mb; it could store 5gb. The local competitor was the Creative Nomad, which was the size of a 4 CD box and weighed over a pound, and was far from portable.
It used Firewire. Synching an iPod took less than 10 minutes to upload 5gb of music. The Creative Nomad, using USB, could upload 500mb in 10 minutes.
It had a phenomenal UI, which could be used one handed. The Nomad, on the other hand, could not. It had a folder based UI display, and even today the Nomad 3 has 11 buttons on it's face to control it's UI. The iPod, still, only has five.
It had phenomenal software, in iTunes. Not only could you upload 5gb of music, the software allowed you to manage many multiple gbs easily because it handled all the cataloging, database management, playlist generation, ripping, and encoding.

Imagine how powerful this is, and this is something Creative only gained this year but Apple has had for two or three: A playlist generator.

I want:
Not country
Songs played less than 4 times
Songs not played in the last week

That's what Apple offered, in iTunes, that no one else had. iTunes ALSO offered (new at the time, I'm sure everyone has most of these now):
Streaming shared online libraries. iTunes users can see and play each other's libraries
Automatic tagging
Streaming to wireless speakers (Airport Express)
Automatic ripping
Automatic synching
Music search via ID3 tags
Album art
CD burning (remember 'Rip, Mix, Burn'?)

I think the MuVo works with iTunes; give it a shot!

geek cred (1)

cvstSD (869509) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998132)

Only a fellow geek could convince himself that street cred was something you could achieve with a soldering iron, a pair of headphones, and an ipod. :-) Listen UP Mother Boards You've been a cold Solder JOINT cover your EARS, try not to HEAR this is one you can't SKIRT I got an iron with your NAME An I'm not talkin 'bout your SHIRT

Sunglasses (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11998141)

You could always get a pair glasses [engadget.com] that's an mp3 player.

Do not (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11998158)

Do not eat iPod Shuffle

Oops - misread that (1)

lllama (228050) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998252)

I thought we were about to see a new mobile that had no screen and would pick the next person to phone at random.

Weak... (3, Insightful)

RaZ0r (145723) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998308)

This mod is WEAK!

I expected to see some complicated mod that provided controls for the iPod in the headphones.

This guy simply soldered a headphone jack into his expensive headphones and stuffed his iPod shuffle inside the headphones, which restricts access to the controls.

WEAK.

Holy Samolians! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11998420)

If this doesn't make the case that Timothy ought to be the spokesperson for abortion rights, then nothing will!

Maybe next time he'll post a cool hack of putting a big-ass wing on the back of a 15 year old Honda.

I remember when Slashdot used to be this site that had News for Nerds and Stuff that mattered. Now it's "Pay for a subscription. Read some crap". Bleh.

Is it me??? (1)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998492)

Or did anyone else get that familiar "goatse shudder" when you reached the frame that said "preparing to insert the Shuffle"? Just wondering. ;P

One question have I... (1)

Landak (798221) | more than 9 years ago | (#11998972)

Where do you source the headphones from? Finding a decent pair of headphones in this neck of the woods (I.e. Suffolk, the UK) is a task in itself - I very nearly bought a _very_ nice pair of Bayer DT-109's for "only" £139.99. They would outlive me, but.....I don't want to spend £139.99 on a pair of fsckin' headphones!

Would the next logical progression of this would be to find a random bluetooth headset; wire it into a decent headset; and then have a converter that would plug nicely over the iPod to send out the signal. That _would_ own!

...Wow, that's sad :( (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11999040)

Perhaps you could try to hack in an iAnus port too so you can have some iShuffle anal sex?

hackaday.com (1)

sagenumen (62467) | more than 9 years ago | (#11999075)

I have found that people seem content with simply reposting stories that appear on hackaday.com. I understand that that is the essence of slashdot (i.e. finding interesting stories and aggregating them in one relevant place), but almost EVERY story from hackaday makes it to the front page of slashdot.

Perhaps people can just start checking two sites every day?

Re:hackaday.com (1)

Landak (798221) | more than 9 years ago | (#11999133)

Or, better yet, put another site in their RSS client....much more efficient, less bandwidth wasting (and you can 'accidentally' subscribe to RSS feed of new torrents from empornium at the same time ;-))

I am not surprised by this.... (1)

El Camino SS (264212) | more than 9 years ago | (#11999267)


One thing that I am surprised about, is that not one manufacturer of these devices have come up with the obvious, and made MP3 headphones.

Insanely stupid of them not to.
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