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RFID Music Player

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the reuse dept.

Hardware Hacking 157

frazzydee writes "I know what you're thinking, RFID tags used to play music? Well, it turns out that we don't need to take out our tinfoil hats this time, because it turns out that are some constructive uses for the same RFID tags that we have all come to loathe. Since RFID tags can hold 1 kilobyte of data, somebody who goes by dividuum found that (s)he could use the tags combined with a reader to store and play back music. Dividuum used SID files- the same format used on Commodore 64s- and programmed everything in C. Pictures of the RFID device are available here."

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Speak for yourself (5, Insightful)

That's Unpossible! (722232) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018471)

the same RFID tags that we have all come to loathe

I don't subscribe to slashdot groupthink.

I don't loathe any technology, only those that abuse it.

Re:Speak for yourself (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018487)

but i do..

Re:Speak for yourself (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018572)

We know you do, you AC!

Re:Speak for yourself (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018764)

you think that you're AC?

I've got an RFID tag up your ass!

Re:Speak for yourself (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018597)

I don't subscribe to slashdot groupthink.

Take your individuality and go somewhere else, you creepy freak.

*mutter* groupthink *mutter* whodoeshethinkheis *mutter* fuckingtowelhead

Re:Speak for yourself (5, Funny)

nmoog (701216) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018623)

The singing bass is just a technology too. Some things deserved to be loathed.

Re:Speak for yourself (1)

MemoryAid (675811) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019220)

Bass is just one of the positions in a Barbershop quartet [simpsoncrazy.com] , and as such probably isn't a technology. Some men have been singing bass since the dawn of time, or puberty, whichever comes first.

Re:Speak for yourself (2, Informative)

strider44 (650833) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019900)

Sometimes I'm just dumbfounded as to whether someone is being serious or not.

Just in case you are, the grandparent is talking about a type of artificial fish.

Re:Speak for yourself (1)

vranash (594439) | more than 9 years ago | (#12020845)

And some men have gone back to singing alto, after a bad arguement with their girlfriends/wives ;p

Exactly... (4, Insightful)

spoco2 (322835) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018636)

I do hate it when someone takes it on themselves to speak for everyone... why they couldn't have said 'which many have come to loathe' or 'which many have privacy concerns over' etc.

Personally I think they're kinda cool... and coming from a data and human interaction focused business such as I am in, the things they can do to the betterment of people's experiences of things is supurb.

Re:Or in other words... (1)

DianeOfTheMoon (863143) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019224)

What we, white man? --As said by Tonto

Re:Exactly... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12019288)

Thats the problem- slashdot generally supports the 'stupid' position: Microsoft being evil (it isnt), Windows supposedly being unstable (it isnt), open source being stable and reliable (it isnt), Linux being a viable alternative for the desktop (...guess...), etc.

Re:Exactly... (1)

blah-Hipo (78493) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019833)

you and parent:

calm down jackasses. whine whine whine, i hate it when people speak for everyone, i am above group think.

well i am speaking for everyone when i say: shut up and whipe those crocodile tears from your mother's breast

Resistance (3, Funny)

lgbarker (698397) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018838)

I don't subscribe to slashdot groupthink.

Resistance is futile, etc, etc.

1 kb huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018482)

Sounds about perfect for that song that is all silence.

I don't loathe RFID tags (5, Insightful)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018483)

Only some of the potential uses.

I used an RFID card to get in and out of a city admin building all last week on site, it was much better than having to fumble for a different key for the umpteen different doors.

Technophobic dorks. Invasion of privacy, and all the other paranoias you have are all social problems, not technical ones.

Don't bitch about the tech, bitch about the people who would misuse it.

Re:I don't loathe RFID tags (2, Insightful)

Morlark (814687) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018574)

Well said, this is exactly the sort of thing that we need to be hearing more of. People talk of their privacy being invaded, and their freedoms and rights being breached, but this isn't the fault of the technology, it's the fault of the people that use it.

Re:I don't loathe RFID tags, o yeah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12019942)

dont bitch about the bomb, bitch about who dropped it !!! and so on and on and on. Technology and misuse are going to kill us

Nobody Really Loathes RFID (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018490)

Outside of the slashdot tin-foil hat crowd, I don't think anybody is getting really worked up over glorified barcodes.

It's just a technology like just about everything else. It doesn't automatically make it evil just because some bad guys might use it or there is "potential" for abuse.

Seriously, the RFID is evil meme is dead. Learn to deal with it.

Few understand RFID; dismissing debate won't help. (1, Insightful)

jbn-o (555068) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019212)

I think very few people know what RFID is, so it isn't meaningful to judge if most people are "getting worked up" over RFID.

Your examination leaves much to be desired, besides. RFID gives us opportunities to do things (including tracking at a short distance and publishing uniquely coded RFID tags) which we couldn't do with barcodes, so RFID is not fairly described as "glorified barcodes". Calling it "just a technology" and "evil" reads like an attempt to marginalize anyone's ethical critique of RFID rather than engaging in fruitful rational discussion of how it works and what the social implications are. Hardly the work of someone presenting insight for others to glean.

Given this, I think your post is quite overrated (currently at +2 insightful).

Fuck Off (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018501)

for the same RFID tags that we have all come to loathe.

Fuck off. Just fuck off. I've been reading slashdot for 8 years and you think that stupid fucking groupthink statements from dumbass store submitters like this would be edited out one of these years, but nope here's another one.

i'd hit it (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018506)

p.s. I HATE NIGGERS !!!!

Glad (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018508)

I am glad that they have finally found a reasonable use for this technology. Using it for music is a lot better than using it to violate people's right to privacy.

1 kb (3, Funny)

Umbral Blot (737704) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018513)

1 Kb doesn't seem like a lot of music. 1 Mb/min is the usal rate for at least decent encodings. That means that 1Kb would play ... 1/1024 min or approx .05 seconds. Ouch

Re:1 kb (2, Insightful)

rbarreira (836272) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018524)

Do you really think the Commodores had a wav or mp3 format, or the capability to play it?

Like everyone else at the time.... (4, Funny)

greppy (865364) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019360)

..they probably used LPs and magnetic tapes.

http://www.soultracks.com/commodores.htm [soultracks.com]

Re:1 kb (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018534)

Think of it like a midi file not a raw or compressed mp3/ogg..
So its all those beeps, we love :)

Re:1 kb (2, Informative)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018540)

Think Fourier transforms. Many techniques can be used to encode music such that the quality is reasonable and the file size small.

Re:1 kb (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018769)

What did you think mp3s use to compress audio?

Re:1 kb (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018864)

Little elves with pointy ears and green shoes.

Re:1 kb (1)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 9 years ago | (#12020323)

yeah, I know.

Re:1 kb (1)

hanshotfirst (851936) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018549)

In audio WAV format, sure. But there are other ways to code audio that take a lot less space, if pure audio and fidelity are not requirements. MIDI for example, or in the case of the article, SID. You don't record the sound, you record information about the sound that you run back through a synthesizer.

Re:1 kb (2, Funny)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018563)

You'll be amazed by the compression rates achieved by some Indian math guy...

(I sense a potential new meme)

Re:1 kb (0, Offtopic)

jx100 (453615) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018899)

all your base are belong to some indian math guy in soviet russia with hot grits down his pants?

Re:1 kb (0, Flamebait)

FLEB (312391) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019948)

Not necessarily. Netcraft confirmed that, in Korea, only old people's base are belong to some Indian math guy in Soviet Russia with hot grits down his pants. But the question must still be asked: Is it cool, or is it wack?

(someone kill me now)

Re:1 kb (4, Funny)

NoGuffCheck (746638) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018566)

Your not taking into account the time-space-continueum (stupid). Try listening to Celine Dion, its so bad that 0.05 seconds would sound like a waste of hours.

Re:1 kb (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018729)

Hahahahhahahah soooo true, sooo true...
/me wipes a tear from his eye
Rene Angelil

No problem (1)

atrader42 (687933) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018570)

Use your head. Since each tag holds a whole 1Kb, you only need 1024 tags for each minute of music. That's a mere 716800 tags for a full cd. Since you'd be buying in bulk, you can replace those flimsy, akward cds for just $7168.00 apiece! I don't know about you, but I'm going right now!

Re:1 kb (2, Interesting)

back_pages (600753) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018660)

1 Kb doesn't seem like a lot of music. 1 Mb/min is the usal rate for at least decent encodings. That means that 1Kb would play ... 1/1024 min or approx .05 seconds. Ouch

Greetings!

This is what a Commodore-64 is!
Commodore 64 [oldcomputers.net]

Judging from your high UID and your apparent inexperience with the computers of 1982, I feel fully justified in blazenly assuming that 1 Kb of YOUR music is MORE than enough. 0.058 seconds of "Dad won't buy me a car, homework sucks" is exactly the right amount.





(Take it easy - I'm from 1980 myself and employing ironic humor - being an ass to mock the young kids (and I'm justified in mocking the Commodore-64 because I grew up on a Vic-20, thanks for asking.))

past tense (1)

trs9000 (73898) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019211)

Take it easy - I'm from 1980 myself and employing ironic humor

Whoa, you're from 1980? I heard it's nice there; lots of coke and sex, like a constant party. But I just haven't had the time myself to visit. Welcome to 2005!

Re:past tense (1)

back_pages (600753) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019230)

Yeah thanks for the welcome. The end of the sexual revolution sucks but at least disco is over... eh, wait, I just saw what's on MTV. Crap, send me back.

Re:1 kb (1)

rescendent (870007) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018774)

I wonder what it would sound like if you just dumped a load of tags on a reader... Random 1K shorts?

Re:1 kb (1)

RichardX (457979) | more than 9 years ago | (#12020407)

Probably the same as if you randomised a playlist of 1k SID files. You don't need RFID to do that.

I check several sites regularly (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018516)

One is slashdot, the other is hackaday. Slashdot should just post a link at the bottom of the home page since half of the daily hacks appear here.

Newsflash... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018517)

Things which can store information can be used to store and playback music. This exciting new technology could revolutionize the music industry, although some are worried that it may lower the demand for live concerts. More on this exciting development as it occurs...

A name! (5, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018521)


At least they credit someone named "Dividuum" rather than calling him "RFID software guy".

Re:A name! (1)

forceflow2 (843966) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018703)

Yeah, but they didn't credit hackaday [hackaday.com] which is where they got it from

Re:A name! (1)

pyrrhonist (701154) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018728)

At least they credit someone named "Dividuum" rather than calling him "RFID software guy".

That's because they didn't read the article first to find out what his gender is:

Since RFID tags can hold 1 kilobyte of data, somebody who goes by dividuum found that (s)he could use the tags

He's a guy:

Dividuum, my flat-mate, has built a very cool RFID application. He stores SID-files (SID is the music format for the C64) on RFID tags.

pretty cool but... (-1, Troll)

GoatPigSheep (525460) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018535)

Anything that justifies RFID technology is bad news in my opinion... As much as I would like portable, lightwieght music on chips the evil applications of RFID technology still scare me

Re:pretty cool but... (1, Insightful)

flyingsquid (813711) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018635)

The information technology which kept police states like the USSR, Third Reich, and Saddam's Iraq going was good 'ol fashioned paper. Written records of people's history and whereabouts don't sound as nasty but they were plenty effective.

Needs to be asked, ad nauseum (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018548)

Will it play Ogg?

Not really so good (2, Funny)

nulbit (869982) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018552)

Since RFID tags can hold 1 kilobyte of data, somebody who goes by dividuum found that (s)he could use the tags combined with a reader to store and play back music. Great! If I had like three thousand I can actually play a entire track, give the RIAA a convenient way to track me, and I'll probably get some sort of prostate cancer! Awesome!

AFDB (4, Funny)

Embedded Geek (532893) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018560)

we don't need to take out our tinfoil hats this time

Ha! You won't fool me! You're just trying to get me to take off my Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie [zapatopi.net] ! Well, it won't work! I've had voices in my head a lot louder than you try! So if you think that you'll---

What? OK, Mom. I'll go take my meds now.

Re:AFDB (2, Funny)

flyingsquid (813711) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018735)

Ha! You won't fool me! You're just trying to get me to take off my Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie! Well, it won't work!

RFIDs can be made paper-thin and less than a centimeter square, so now they (you know who!) have put them inside every square foot of aluminum foil.

For a good tinfoil hat, you need to get aluminum foil which is at least twenty years old. I suggest going to the dump and digging down a few feet- dig until you get to the really ripe stuff, then it's just about five more feet! The dates of magazines and newspapers will help you make sure you're deep enough. You could try melting down aluminum foil and then hammering it out into sheets, but then they (you know who!) will notice that some of the RFIDs no longer transmit, and that will arouse suspicions and increase surveillance intensity, so it's not a good idea.

Re:AFDB (1)

Embedded Geek (532893) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018989)

going to the dump and digging down a few feet

Wonderful idea! After I get home tonight I'll just grab a shovel and a chair and start digging into the ceiling.

I only hope my bunker's ceiling won't cave in.

Coralized (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018573)

Coralized pictures link [nyud.net]
And the main site too [nyud.net] (if you can read it)

Tinfoil hat? (3, Funny)

i_want_you_to_throw_ (559379) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018578)

You know folks tin foil and aluminum foil are VERY different things.

I amazed that a site so full of educated geeks has never pointed this out.

Re:Tinfoil hat? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018657)

I'm amazed you've read every post on slashdot.

Re:Tinfoil hat? (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018739)

"amazed that a site so full of educated geeks has never pointed this out."

I'm happy they haven't. I'm so fricken tired of time and mod points being wasted on needless corrections. Correcting somebody for the difference between Megabytes and Gigabytes is one thing, correcting them over MB or mb is just plain irritating.

Re:Tinfoil hat? (1)

syrinx (106469) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019945)

correcting them over MB or mb is just plain irritating.

So you don't see any difference between a megabyte and a millibit?

Okay, yeah, you can't really divide bits into anything. In fact, milli- has no application as far as data storage goes. So mega-, at least, can be safely assumed.

But megabits are sometimes used, so making a distinction between Mb and MB is neccessary.

Re:Tinfoil hat? (2, Funny)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 9 years ago | (#12020366)

"But megabits are sometimes used, so making a distinction between Mb and MB is neccessary."

In casual conversation? I don't think so. Would you really correct somebody talking about a 640mb CD-ROM? Would YOU really like to be corrected for not being unnecessarily specific?

Do you (syrix Slashdot user 10649) really think (i.e. do you have neurons in your brain firing in a specific pattern that results in the idea that people need to be extremely specific when they type a comment on Slashdot.org located at the IP address 66.35.250.150) that it is really all that important (the theme of any given post severly risks mass mis-comprehension) that every technical (the more specific, the better because otherwise the literal definition of what is stated has a number of ways it can be misconstrued) detail must be painstakingly (i.e. thoroughly researched from places like Google.com or any textbooks you may have nearby.) defined in order to avoid needless (i.e. the world will not suddenly stop rotating or revolving) (rotating around the Earth's axis and revolving around the sun) nitpicking (i.e. corrections made in a condescending tone)?

Re:Tinfoil hat? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018920)

I amazed that a site so full of educated geeks has never pointed this out.

And I amazed (sic) that you give a crap. Maybe if you poked your pale face out of your mom's basement more than twice a month you would have a better grasp on reality so you could spend your energy on real issues.

this is a real issue (1)

drxray (839725) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019522)

No it isn't.

OK. I have to know. Was the (sic) a joke, or do you really not know hoe to spell amazed? Or what sic means?

Re:this is a real issue (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12020376)

I'll help you out here:

I am amazed

In other news! (2, Funny)

angedinoir (699322) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018593)

Apple comes out with 40 gb iPod.........

Okay, someone used an RFID reader/writer to put 1k of music on, it, big whoop. Next week I'm planning on putting some MP3s on my usb flash drive, isn't that great... :P

Re:In other news! (1)

One_6453 (740362) | more than 9 years ago | (#12021060)

whats wrong with doing it just because?

Re:In other news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12021125)

You must be new here.

sooo (1)

UlfGabe (846629) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018595)

if the music is going to be low quality jingles i believe we can all deal with this....

carry EMP devices into stores which use RFID and let loose

lol (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018608)

more like this site was hosted on a rfid tag am i rite?

Avant Garde (4, Funny)

Embedded Geek (532893) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018648)

I just have to wonder what kind of weird/random noise the thing would make if you took it into a store that has embraced RFID:

And now WWRD's Avante Garde corner features Herr Gerder VonStiffle's latest composition, "Fast Walk Through Walmart's Sporting Goods Section, #7"

Re:Avant Garde (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12020051)

haha, you might be joking, but for a computer musician, that would be quite a serious project!

i did something along those lines with some x86 assembly which used 8 bit chunks to encode musical notes and play them on the pc-speaker. i'm thinking something similar could have the potential to sound very interesting!

hmmm.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12018659)

pics are getting slashdotted... :( someone get a mirror going plz :(

anyway, this is the first application of RFID that ive seen that doesnt make me cringe.

sure tracking on large shipments of cargo i understand. other than that...no thanks.. i don't really want it to replace the barcode.

later...

Commdore 64 music (3, Interesting)

Neo-Rio-101 (700494) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018706)

If I'm not wrong, the average .sid file for the C64 takes up about 2K of memory. The sids must have been pretty small to fit on the RFID.

Some interesting Commodore 64 music links:-
The HVSID Collection [c64.org] - Which is the main site for the collection of thousands upon thousands of Commodore 64 sid files.
Remix.kwed.org [kwed.org] Remixes of Commodore 64 tunes with real and modern synthesized instruments.

(Don't hammer their servers!)

I'm off to play "Lazy Jones" (aka ZombieNation)

Re:Commdore 64 music (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019511)

says that they were gzipped.

(and that only some songs fit in under 1kb even gzipped)

Re:Commdore 64 music (1)

babyrat (314371) | more than 9 years ago | (#12020129)

If you RTFS...jeez even the summary, you'd find "Some RFID tags can store up to 1 kB of data" and if you actually made it to the article (silly me), you'd find "Some RFID tags can store up to 1 kB of data, which is enough to store gzipped SID-files"

and of you'd made it even further into the article...

A very nice feature is that you can put a stack of tags near the reader, and they will act as a playlist.

Finally... (2, Funny)

Arjuna Theban (143564) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018720)

I get my own theme music!

it turns out that (0, Offtopic)

mightymac (859034) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018736)

You used "it turns out" in two sentences which are next to each other. This is an example of redundant data, so I wouldn't go storing your /. posts on rfid's.

Re: it turns out that (1)

Arngautr (745196) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019853)

You used "it turns out" in two sentences which are next to each other. This is an example of redundant data, so I wouldn't go storing your /. posts on rfid's.

Actually it turns out that they were both in the same sentence.

Re: it turns out that (1)

gkwok (773963) | more than 9 years ago | (#12021063)

This annoyed me too. Vigorous writing is concise. It should have been written thusly:
We don't need to take out our tinfoil hats this time, because [there] are constructive uses for these tags.

That's 19 words versus 37 in the original sentence--38 if you add in the missing word to make it grammatically correct. Half the original words were superfluous.

To save time, I will sum up fully 1/2 of posts (2, Funny)

Kiryat Malachi (177258) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018787)

Q: Why?

A: Because.

Q: But that's not enough of a reason.

A: Yes, it is.

Q: But it's so useless.

A: Shut the fuck up and go play Pokemon, would you?

HA! (0, Offtopic)

dangold (171946) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018863)

Your site is about to get slashdotted as it appears on www.slashdot.com :-).
Posted by Slashdot at March 23, 2005 01:14 AM

Already Done? (1)

SWTP_OS9 (658064) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018897)

When they released The Phantom Mennance movies flood of toys. Dident they release some action figures with RDF stuff? Put them on a base. They speak dialog.

Not sure if it was inside of the little plastic base or they loaded the player and tages it by what was places on it.

Re:Already Done? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12019287)

The simpsons did that too. Their toys had an ID in each of them magnetically detected and the base would play the appropriate sound for the toy.

How to extend it? (1)

cdcarter (822001) | more than 9 years ago | (#12018999)

I would like a system where you have a reader plugged into a stero system and an ethernet cable (or wifi). Then you would go and buy or somehow get a tag, you scan the tag, and it downloads and plays the music. Some tags will have playlists too. Some of the tags from the Big 5 would be linked to the first reader they are scanned, other tags could be traded, but you would still need the physical tag to play the song.

Possibly more interesting than the music app ... (1)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019404)

... are the tiny chunks of Ruby code that read and write RFID tags using a standard chunk of hardware and libusb.

An actual usefull use (3, Insightful)

interstellar_donkey (200782) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019512)

I know this is slightly off topic, but it occurred to me that RFID tags could actually be useful in terms of music.

The value of music (or video, or software, or any other intellectual property) isn't so much in the media it's stored on, but in owning the license to legally play it. As it stands, when somebody purchases music, be it on a CD or in mp3 format, maintaining the license to the work can be a pain.

CDs can break or be scratched to the point of being unplayable. Hard drives can be erased accidentally. Owners of the copy write do their best to prevent users to copy media because despite many users otherwise benign intent to transfer media to a different format or to archive owned media, there is no guarantee that they aren't copying the work for a more nefarious purpose.

Enter RFIDs. They're cheap, there portable and they can be owned. A person simply purchases the RFID for a work, and then that RFID is scanned any player in any format before the work can be played.

Taking your mp3 player filled with music you own on vacation? Simply wave it over your box of RFID tags, and viola! The player knows you are legally entitled to play the songs you copied onto it.

You could make as many perfect digital copies as you like of your CDs or even DVDs and it wouldn't matter. As long as the player is able to check the RFID tag for ownership, the media will play.

Granted there are some problems. As they are small, RFID tags would be easy to lose, and all sorts of issues come up when you consider online purchase of media where physical objects like RFIDs can't be used. But it's an idea, nonetheless.

Re:An actual usefull use (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12019719)

This is not interesting - it's stupid.

What would stop you from duplicating the data on the RFID tag and reselling it?

Re:An actual usefull use (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12019846)


What would stop you from duplicating the data on the RFID tag and reselling it?


Um.. your momma?

Re:An actual usefull use (1)

towndowner (813250) | more than 9 years ago | (#12020043)

god, i wish the gods had recently granted me mod powers - if they had, i'd immediately mod this funny. maybe i've drunk too much belgian beer (i'm in virginia, usa, but i know a good thing when i taste one) - but i really think the author meant to be funny. perhaps not. at any rate, this entire article is exactly what i expect from and love about slashdot - it's completely useless, yet sadly interesting. yay mp3s. eat my stool. use two spaces after sentences. i'm drunk.

Re:An actual usefull use (2, Interesting)

interstellar_donkey (200782) | more than 9 years ago | (#12020868)

It wasn't meant to be funny, but it was partially inspired by Irish beer. I suppose if you really thought about it, it's an absurd idea. But contemplating unusually complex solutions using technology to solve pointless problems, solutions that if anything would probably be more of a hindrance then a help is a hallmark of the Slashdot community.

Now, if I had suggested that RFIDs should be incorporated into Lego bricks with a blue tooth interface for license rights, and that the end user could build a Star Wars inspired spaceship model out of those legos to store the digital rights to their entire media collection, (perhaps even a Beowulf cluster of RFID enabled Lego bricks which could compress and decompress ogg music files) that would be more in line with Slashdot, and that would be funny.

lol! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12019603)

RFID tags that we have all come to loathe.

You've been brainwashed. RFID tags rock. They kill barcodes and they can do all kinds of cool shit. I'm not sure where you get this "we all loathe them" crap. That's pretty funny though.

RFID Readers & Tags (2, Informative)

Tony.Tang (164961) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019691)

RFID readers and tags are here, and they're here to stay -- mainly because they are -oh- so cheap. People often ask, "how can I build one of these things?" And, while I appreciate the coolness of building something like this, the real cool bit about RFID readers & tags is that we can build things with them very very easily.

Phidgets [phidgets.com] is a company that sells these RFID readers and tags in an "off the shelf" manner. For a mere $90 CDN (almost nothing in USD), you can get a reader plus a whole set of tags (and of course the software to program against it with).

Toy Companies (1)

mollyhackit (693979) | more than 9 years ago | (#12019793)

This technology is so stupidly cheap some toy company is going to jump all over this.

shi7 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12020076)

Re:shi7 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12020727)

Wow. You really aren't very good at this troll thing. I'll give you a couple hints: try to obfuscate the link to the shock site at least a little. And maybe actually write something that doesn't look like the string of text that v1@gr@ ads carry at the end in order to defeat bayesian filtering.

God, it's like you're not even trying. I bet that if I met you in real life I'd say "Wow. He's almost as smart as a bag full of wet mice."

Huh? (4, Informative)

_ph1ux_ (216706) | more than 9 years ago | (#12020314)

"Since RFID Tags can hold 1Kb of Data?"

Not all tags are that small, my company makes a series of tags that hold a *considerably* larger data package.

128K and up...

Fun for animal breeders (0, Offtopic)

WoBIX (819410) | more than 9 years ago | (#12020790)

I've been looking into buying an RFID chip setup for tagging animals, in this case pythons and boas.

It would be interesting to not only tag the animals with an identifiable number, but create a tonal signature that would play back when the animal is scanned.

Someone at PETA just put my name on a shoot-to-kill list.

NSA (1)

omach (322252) | more than 9 years ago | (#12020874)

I picture Old NSA-Bob working the crowd, gathering who is at the local 2600-meeting using their under-the-skin-RFID-tags.

Suddenly, from nowere, his spook-gadgets emits strange sounds.

Yes! Its "Popcorn"!

the next step (1)

N3wsByt3 (758224) | more than 9 years ago | (#12021217)

While it's ajoke on slashdot to say "Imagine a beowulfcluster of those", in this case, it could actually make sense.

Since those tags are produced en masse and you will get them whenever you buy (in the future), it will become trivial to get a huge bunch of them in a short time. Find a way to link them, and you could use them for building your own supercomputer.

Well, ok, you'll need all your walls covered by them, probably...though I once read they envisaged 16kb per tag, which would make it not all that farfetched.

Regardless, sooner or later some nerd will use it for creating his home-made weirdobox.
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