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Apple Settles with Tiger Leaker

Zonk posted about 9 years ago | from the not-confidential dept.

The Courts 349

The Hobo writes "CNet is carrying a story about Apple reaching a settlement with one of the Tiger leakers, 22-year-old Doug Steigerwald. The terms of the settlement were not released, but it was said that money will be paid to Apple. To quote Doug, 'As a member of Apple's Developer Connection program I received a pre-release version of Apple's Mac OS X 10.4 'Tiger' software, which I promised to keep confidential, instead, I disseminated it over the Internet, and thousands of unauthorized copies of Apple's software were illegally distributed to the public'"

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payment (-1, Offtopic)

SpongeBobLinuxPants (840979) | about 9 years ago | (#12035738)

it was said that money will be paid to Apple.

like $50,000 a year to Apple from him not working there anymore?

Re:payment (4, Informative)

m3j00 (606453) | about 9 years ago | (#12035790)

like $50,000 a year to Apple from him not working there anymore?

If you had even read the slashdot blurb of TFA, you'd know that he wasn't an apple employee, but rather a developer's connection member.

Re:payment (1)

ePhil_One (634771) | about 9 years ago | (#12035792)

like $50,000 a year to Apple from him not working there anymore?

He was a member of the ADC program, not an employee.

Re:payment (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12035818)

He didn't work there, he just was part of their developer program ("Apple Developer Connection"). Actually, to be a part of the ADC level that receives OS seeds, *you* have to pay a certain amount per year.

Re:payment (0, Offtopic)

Gilmoure (18428) | about 9 years ago | (#12035883)

Uh...yeah, he wasn't an elephantoplasty but a membrane of Applet's Devolving Corruption...or something.

You shouldn't leak on tigers, they don't like it.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12036097)

Zoo keeper mauled to death 'after defecating on tiger'

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The 19-year-old appears to have climbed the railings of the Bengal tiger cage and pulled his trousers down.

Evidence at the scene of the death at the Jinan animal park included toilet paper, excrement and a trouser belt.

Zoo officials think Xu Xiaodong either slipped into the cage or was pulled in by one of the four angry tigers.

According to the South China Morning Post, the man told a co-worker he needed to go to the toilet but police were called when he failed to return.

They found his body lying on the ground surrounded by tigers. The teenager had reportedly been bitten in the neck and was covered in blood.

Police believe Xu climbed the wall of a partially constructed building used to raise the tigers to relieve himself. They said the smell probably caused the tigers to pounce.

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Apple, I hope you don't want any more of my money (-1, Flamebait)

emil (695) | about 9 years ago | (#12035916)

...Because you're not going to get it.

A financial settlement with a fresh college grad? You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

Not even Microsoft is this obnoxious.

Re:Apple, I hope you don't want any more of my mon (2, Insightful)

torpor (458) | about 9 years ago | (#12035947)

How do you know he's not a rich punk?

You're the one jumping to conclusions and acting like a jerk (as you are accusing 'Apple' of being). Maybe also the 'financial payment' (confidential) was "give back what you paid us to join the ADC, and your ADC membership was cancelled".

College grad or not, if you don't know the -exact- terms of the deal, don't be so hasty to cast judgment. Oh, wait, this is /. ... there are few here who aren't hasty at most things in life..

Re:Apple, I hope you don't want any more of my mon (3, Insightful)

smooth wombat (796938) | about 9 years ago | (#12035962)

The last line of the story:

"Members of (the) Apple Developer Connection receive advance copies of Apple software under strict confidentiality agreements, which we take very seriously to protect our intellectual property," Apple said in a December statement.

How horrible that Apple should go after someone who broke a confidentiality agreement and disseminated software which wasn't his to begin with and which he had no right to disseminate.

Oh the horror!

Re:Apple, I hope you don't want any more of my mon (-1, Flamebait)

Kuj0317 (856656) | about 9 years ago | (#12036159)

Apple is a compnay that is supported by fanatics; people love their products and always want to be in-the-know, that means running the latest beta software they can get their hands on. Where there is supply, there will be demand and the fact that it was leaked is of absolutely no suprise atall.

Yes this guy broke the NDA, but he also fed into Apple's viral marketing scheme, and is now ruined for that. The fact is that Apple, a big, usually not-so-facless corporation, is strongarming an individual that did something that is 'wrong' but IMO pretty low down on the scale of of how bad it is. Will the leak (not the lawsuit) have hurt Apples sales? No. Would it have lead to support problems? No; on the contrary it would give more people a chance to pre-emptively check and fix their apps to work on the new build. Would it have satiated some of the fanatics who would then post page long pieces about every little change? yes.

Apple feeds off of this energy and their evangelical fanatics, and is now taking a stab at their very base.

This is why sooo many people are at arms about this IMO.

Re:Apple, I hope you don't want any more of my mon (4, Insightful)

Trurl's Machine (651488) | about 9 years ago | (#12035985)

A financial settlement with a fresh college grad? You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

What sort of settlement would you accept then? Corporal punishment? Or should Apple say "You naughty naughty boy, you pirated our software, but that's OK, we don't want any sort of punishment for you, otherwise emil (695) won't buy our products"?

Re:Apple, I hope you don't want any more of my mon (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12036182)

OH SNAP!!!

Re:Apple, I hope you don't want any more of my mon (4, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 9 years ago | (#12036070)

That college grad broke a contract and some laws. It's not like that stipulation in the ultra-fine print of the ADC agreement or a surprise to anyone. Anybody who receives a copy of software knows that they can't legally distribute it without permission. With open source, you know that you do have some permissions, but even with the GPL, there are restrictions. In the case of commercial software, it's almost certain that no end-user has permission to distribute, and in this case, the commercial software hasn't even been released yet. Many people do it, but it doesn't make it any more legal.

I'm not sure how much the settlement is, but it is well within Apple's rights. Maybe they asked for and received a token amount just to make an example of him.

For the record, MS has gone after people before. Parts of Win 2000/NT source code have been released. There has not been any news of capture but MS will probably use all their means to punish the offenders.

Yeah... (1)

Aldric (642394) | about 9 years ago | (#12036176)

But Apple never seems to be out of the courts these days. While they may be in the right, it's starting to damage their image - and since Apple survives mostly on image, it isn't smart.

Re:Apple, I hope you don't want any more of my mon (1)

rokzy (687636) | about 9 years ago | (#12036208)

forget karma, I just want to look you in the non-anonymous eye and tell you you're a fucking retard.

thank you for removing yourself from the Apple user base.

I guess signing a Non Disclosure... (4, Insightful)

Uptown Joe (819388) | about 9 years ago | (#12035740)

means that you won't disclose anything. Or give away a few thowsand copies of licenced, un-released software... huh.

Re:I guess signing a Non Disclosure... (0)

tacarat (696339) | about 9 years ago | (#12035837)

I wonder if they have a 1337-version of the contract. Y'know, just so everyone's clear on what's being signed...

Re:I guess signing a Non Disclosure... (5, Funny)

tehwebguy (860335) | about 9 years ago | (#12035995)

"by signing yuo agree not 2 l34k teh warez und3r penalty of appel pwnage lol"

How incredibly insightful (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12035932)

No, signing a Non Disclosure means that you are signing a contract oliging you not to disclose certain information.

As should have become obvious with the case at hand, it doesn't mean you actually do what you are obliged to do. (As is the case with all contracts)

Anyway, yes, breaking a contract has legal repercussions, without this, contracts wouldn't make any sense at all.

So thank you for your incredibly insightful post and thanks to the mods for modding parent up, because his post is just so....

insightful...

Re:I guess signing a Non Disclosure... (-1, Offtopic)

DarkMantle (784415) | about 9 years ago | (#12035974)

I usually don't like spelling/grammar nazi's, but enlighten me.

WTF is a "thowsand"?

How Sincere... (2, Funny)

NOT-2-QUICK (114909) | about 9 years ago | (#12035748)

I am sure that the admission of guilt was in no way a coherced condition of the settlement terms... :-)

Re:How Sincere... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12035786)

I am sure that the admission of guilt was in no way a coherced condition of the settlement terms.

I'm sure it wasn't, since "coherced" isn't a word in the English language.

Spell Checker... (2, Funny)

NOT-2-QUICK (114909) | about 9 years ago | (#12035849)

Thanks, dude... I always said that Slashdot needed a spell checker for comments.

Since you obviously have nothing better to do in your life, I would say you should get the job!

Re:How Sincere... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12035864)

I am sure that the admission of guilt was in no way a coherced condition of the settlement terms... :-)

I'm sure it was more like "In exchange for an apology and being an example to others, we'll reduce the fine from $500,000 to $10,000". So if you want to call lessening the punishment "coherced", you can. Apple gets what it want, untrustworthy developer get what he wants. Others might call it an equitable settlement.

Spilt Milk (5, Insightful)

Vamphyri (26309) | about 9 years ago | (#12035750)

What was the tiger leaking?

All humor aside. You have to assume when you receive a beta copy of something and signed an NDA there is some way for them to track you.

Re:Spilt Milk (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12035804)

> All humor aside. You have to assume when you receive a beta
> copy of something and signed an NDA there is some way for
> them to track you.

What I see as wrong is that you need to pay to be part of the apple developer connection. So this guy pays for a product, and can't do with it what he wants?.

It's similar to the iTunes fiasco with dvd jon. People pay for a product they expect to be able to use it how they see fit, not have only a corporations "rights" protected while taking away from their own rights.

Corporations should not have rights, full stop. The way I see it, this guy is innocent. I'd considered buying a mac mini but no fear am I going to support Apple in any way now

Re:Spilt Milk (1)

geoffspear (692508) | about 9 years ago | (#12035843)

You're not paying for a product. You're paying for membership, with includes certain privileges. One of these privileges is that you get confidential information from Apple so you can ready the software you develop to work with their new OS.

Have fun using that computer you built entirely from parts that weren't made by any corporation, by the way.

Re:Spilt Milk (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12035875)

are you honestly saying you believe a corporation has the right to overthrow fair use laws and the right to make backups of software you own just because they've asked you to sign away rights?

You might, but then when the government comes down and requires everyone to sign away more and more rights just to live in the country I guess you'll be first in line.

Some of us still believe in freedom.

Re:Spilt Milk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12035954)

Fair use? This is hardly a case of fair use and backups of software. The guy distributed the Tiger release through BitTorrent.

Get over it. This guy was obviously in the wrong and there's no way you're going to be able to twist it into "freedom for the people".

Re:Spilt Milk (5, Insightful)

Mr12inch(Powerbook) (677185) | about 9 years ago | (#12035970)

This is not at all about fair use rights. He signed a legal contract, willingly, stating he would not disclose information and then proceeded to do exactly that. This is not "taking away his rights." He didn't have to sign the NDA and he didn't have to get the pre-release copy of Tiger. But he chose to, and then broke his contractual promise. Now he has to pay the consequence of his actions. It can't get any more black and white than this. And the government had nothing to do with this. Christ, take off your tinfoil hat for a while, your brain is screaming for oxygen.

Re:Spilt Milk (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12036187)

I believe rights such as doctine of first sale, fair use, right to backup, right to sell are rights that it is illegal to ask someone to sign away

Should I be able to ask you to sign away your right not to be enslaved if you want something from me? I bet you'd object if you did that and I then tried to sell you into slavery.

You might even go so far as to claim it is illegal, which would mark you as a hypocrite.

Re:Spilt Milk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12036114)

"So this guy pays for a product, and can't do with it what he wants?."

Not *everything*, no. Only children assume that they should be able to do whatever they want with no repercussions.

Re:Spilt Milk (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | about 9 years ago | (#12035998)

You have to assume when you receive a beta copy of something and signed an NDA there is some way for them to track you.

I remember statements saying that he went to Apple and admitted it.

That's gotta hurt (4, Insightful)

NetMagi (547135) | about 9 years ago | (#12035754)

What's sad here is, he likely got pressured into giving up a copy or two to some friends, who probably SWORE they wouldn't share it.

They stood to lose nothing, and shared it with more of their friends and, etc, etc.

Wonder how those people feel now.

-NetMagi

Re:That's gotta hurt (2, Insightful)

tehwebguy (860335) | about 9 years ago | (#12035779)

ok you can have a copy, but you have to do a better job of keeping it a secret than i did!

Re:That's gotta hurt (5, Funny)

saddino (183491) | about 9 years ago | (#12035800)

What's sad here is, he likely got pressured into giving up a copy or two to some friends, who probably SWORE they wouldn't share it.

Since one his friends is named "BitTorrent" he should've known that friend was going to share it. ;-)

Re:That's gotta hurt (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | about 9 years ago | (#12036037)

I think that's exactly the reason to ignore the temptation. Those other people didn't sign the NDA, and may not have known there was an NDA so there may not be repercussions, though copyright infringement comes to mind.

What this means is the person that did sign the NDA is the one that will get into trouble.

Re:That's gotta hurt (1)

fitten (521191) | about 9 years ago | (#12036153)

Yeah... it'd make you think about what the term "friend" means. I'd have no problems telling my friends that I couldn't give them a copy of something because I was under NDA on it. In fact, they probably wouldn't even ask. Of course, my friends and I have been under many NDAs in the past and we all know what is expected of us.

That proves it (5, Funny)

Anita Coney (648748) | about 9 years ago | (#12035760)

OSX is better. Windows only has memory leaks!

Re:That proves it (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12035866)

I hate apple people.

This is not what this post was about. It was about apple screwing everyone that comes near them. This is why I don't talk to mac people any more.

Re:That proves it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12036096)

We don't miss your conversation.

figures.. (-1, Flamebait)

ragecg (839165) | about 9 years ago | (#12035764)

Man, is apple is REALLY in that dire of need for cash??

Re:figures.. (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | about 9 years ago | (#12035806)

Thats not the point, this is a punishment for what he did. It also serves as a deterrent incase somebody else does the same thing.

Re:figures.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12036042)

If somebody else does the same thing... how effective of a deterrent would it be?

Kinda like if a tree falls in the woods, does a bear wipe with Charmin?

Re:figures.. (2, Insightful)

one_i_blind (613513) | about 9 years ago | (#12035839)

Well, apple can't really just make him admit guilt and call it a day. They need to set some kind of an example. So making him pay an undisclosed amount is the best idea. This way he can pay a fraction of all the money Apple lost. (He'll probably very little since he's a recent graduate and probably owes the government a ton of $$).

Re:figures.. (5, Insightful)

RikF (864471) | about 9 years ago | (#12035852)

As far as Apple is concerned this is nothing at all to do with the money. It is entirely about putting out the message that if you sign a legally binding NDA and the distribute code/information then they will not stand idly by. The guy broke a contractual agreement that he had and I'm afraid he has to suffer the concequences.

RikF

Hmmm.... (1)

MacBorg (740087) | about 9 years ago | (#12035765)

Ok, so this developer violated his NDA and released a Tiger build via bittorrent... the question is, how badly did Apple Legal squeeze him. He's a student, so was this a slap-on-the-wrist (i.e x$1000). I'd kinda like to know. I also would expect that he's lost his Apple Developer status, but that's just me.

Re:Hmmm.... (1)

Ironsides (739422) | about 9 years ago | (#12035821)

A grand isn't a slap on the wrist to someone who's just out of college, looking for a job and has to repay student loans. That said, I'd expect this to be somewhere between $1000 and $5000. $500 isn't much of a punishment and any more than $5000 and he won't be able to pay it back without filing for bankruptcy. Unless Apple has some nice repayment plans worked out.

I think he lost a bit more than that... (5, Insightful)

reezle (239894) | about 9 years ago | (#12035850)


The article says he's a "recent graduate of North Carolina State University who is currently looking for a job". I can't imagine this kind of publicity is a good kind to have when you are out interviewing.

Sure, most guys looking over the resumes aren't going to recognize the name, but there's got to be a company or two out there that actualy does the background checks.

Anyways I can't imagine is prospects are all that hot right now...

Re:I think he lost a bit more than that... (2, Interesting)

nganju (821034) | about 9 years ago | (#12036027)


I disagree. As a director of software and a someone that interviews hundreds of people, I can tell you that it's a big plus when you find someone that is interested enough in tech to be tinkering with things in their spare time (i.e. the average Slashdotter).

I'd say 80-90% of the people I interview are strictly 9-to-5'ers, they're there for the money and because "IT is a stable profession", not because they have a love for technology. They come in with MCSE and Certified Java Programmer labels, but they can't tell you what Firefox is, because it's outside the scope of what they are strictly required to know.

This guy is clearly interested enough in tech to be trying early access releases. While it was morally wrong to distribute the release, I don't think it's much worse than your typical MP3 or movie file sharer. I'd definitely let him interview with me.

Re:I think he lost a bit more than that... (1)

WordODD (706788) | about 9 years ago | (#12036158)

Can I come interview with you? I am trapped in a state run IT department that refuses to do anything outside of the Microsoft scope.

If (background check) == (Google search)... (2, Insightful)

sczimme (603413) | about 9 years ago | (#12036132)


Sure, most guys looking over the resumes aren't going to recognize the name, but there's got to be a company or two out there that actualy does the background checks.

I think a bigger problem would arise if (background check) == (Google search). I strongly suspect that route would turn up more info [vis a vis this situation] than would a traditional background check. In any case I believe you are right: this individual has committed a CLM*.

* Career Limiting Move

Who cares? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12036087)

This ranks up there with the baseball steroids story.
In the real world, people dont get a flying fsck whether a piece of software is released a fwe months early.

it should have happened (5, Insightful)

jim_redwagon (845837) | about 9 years ago | (#12035799)

Can't blame Apple here, I'd rather see their lawyers working on this kind of case than on better ways to enforce DRM. Pre-release versions give you a heads up on software advances and help companies release a better product.

On a side note, it's good to see this guy actually take responsibility for his actions, instead of hiding and blaming Apple.

Re:it should have happened (4, Funny)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 9 years ago | (#12035857)

I'm pretty sure the public announcement was part of the settlement, kind of like when we make celebrities caught snorting coke of a ten year old boy's ass make a public service announcement about the dangers of illegal drugs.

Re:it should have happened (1)

mzwaterski (802371) | about 9 years ago | (#12036012)

Plenty of us lawyers to handle everything....muwahahaha

oops, forgot to post anonymously

*runs for cover*

Do you have... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12035817)

any clue on HOW many beta testers there are? Well, a lot. There is no way the software was signed in anyway to track it to him. They just got lucky that he made it very easy for them to target the originating point of the leak. Example: (Post in forum) Doug: If anyone is interested, I posted a torrent for the new tiger release of OSX. The link is here... Wow! When you click on his user account it has his full name and address!

Re:Do you have... (1)

wtmcgee (113309) | about 9 years ago | (#12035865)

Yea, or they could have checked the IPs of all the seeders, and gone from there.

In any event, I have no sympathy for the guy.

NDA's not so meaningless... (4, Insightful)

ch3ch2oh (768848) | about 9 years ago | (#12035858)

there is a widely-held view that NDA's are meaningless and un-enforcable. this shows clearly that is not the case. i'm sure apple wants a certain amout of publicity around this to get that point across.

Re:NDA's not so meaningless... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12035894)


Umm, there is?

I think you're thinking about EULA's or non-compete clauses in contracts.

No one I've ever heard has had any view that NDAs are anything less than fully enforcable...

Re:NDA's not so meaningless... (2)

Gizzmonic (412910) | about 9 years ago | (#12035980)

Who thinks that NDAs are unenforceable? They are a staple of the business world, especially the tech industry. This isn't a precedent for NDAs. I think you're thinking about EULAs. It's easy to do if you spend way too much time on Slashdot-

Re:NDA's not so meaningless... (1)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | about 9 years ago | (#12035992)

there is a widely-held view that NDA's are meaningless and un-enforcable. this shows clearly that is not the case.

I'm not sure that I've ever seen anyone claim that. It is important to remember, however, that not all portions of an employment agreement (including NDA's) are necessarily enforceable. For example, many such contracts stipulate that you will not sue your employer. That particular clause is completely unenforceable in every state I know about. Like anything else there are parts that can be enforced and parts that cannot in many contracts. Hire a lawyer and ask if you want to know about any given part.

Re:NDA's not so meaningless... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12036095)

Settlement means the courts did not decide the legal merits of the case.

golf pros going soft (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12035859)

i didn't think he was old enough for the depends yet, and i was sure he was allready sponsored by buick...

Applelogies to Blake (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12035888)

Tyger, tyger burning bright,
In the shadows of the night.
What immortal hand or eye
Dare leak thy secrets P-to-P?

Tyger [tuffydog.com]

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Easy mistake to make... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12035921)

Apple: "Here's a pre-release of our OS...please don't distribute it..."
Person of questionable ethics: "Duuuuh...sure thing"

Time passes

Apple: "Hey! You distributed the pre-release over the Internet! We told you not to do that!"
Person of questionable ethics: "DOH!"

I hope this dude was raked over the coals.

Curious (-1, Redundant)

speed1001 (793305) | about 9 years ago | (#12035931)

I'm curious to know the exact terms of the settlement. How much money does he owe? Will he have to continue paying for his I-Tunes subscription while being banned from the site forever?

judgements affect future job prospects (4, Informative)

peter303 (12292) | about 9 years ago | (#12035933)

As these comprehensive databases like ChoicePoint record more civil an criminal judgements, it gets harder to obtain a job at a mainstream company. Article in Wired [wired.com] about this issue yesterday.

Re:judgements affect future job prospects (1)

AssHatAnonymous (869725) | about 9 years ago | (#12036190)

This is a settlement. Perhaps that was your point, but this shouldn't get into any public record beyond the statements he has already made. It's certainly not going into a court record as a judgement.

Bravo (3, Insightful)

wootest (694923) | about 9 years ago | (#12035935)

Setting a precedent and standing up for their rights while not mauling the guy to death. Nice.

find a new line of work... (5, Insightful)

dioscaido (541037) | about 9 years ago | (#12035941)

from TFA: Steigerwald is actually not a student, but a recent graduate of North Carolina State University who is currently looking for a job.

Well, thanks to this story he has officially been transitioned to the permanent tech no-hire pool. I don't think any company would want to hire someone who so blatantly broke an NDA, and made the headlines for it.

I hear those people who drive snow plows make a killing. Maybe he can do that instead of software development.

Re:find a new line of work... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12036047)

Rubbish! How many companies do you know that compose and search such lists? None!

Re:find a new line of work... (3, Insightful)

JoshWurzel (320371) | about 9 years ago | (#12036193)

I hear those people who drive snow plows make a killing
Yeah, but how do they get to work in the morning? ;)

Jail time? (4, Insightful)

iamacat (583406) | about 9 years ago | (#12035964)

"While Apple will always protect its innovations, it is not our desire to send students to jail,"

I thought it was a civil case, or is Steve Jobs made a royalty here so that offending him carries jail sentences? Besides how exactly do you "settle" a criminal case?

Re:Jail time? (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 9 years ago | (#12036166)

I thought it was a civil case, or is Steve Jobs made a royalty here so that offending him carries jail sentences? Besides how exactly do you "settle" a criminal case?

Distributing software without permission violates federal copyright and possibly patent laws and thus is criminal. I think that Apple settled the civil side but decided not to pursue the criminal aspects. The local and federal authorities can pursue criminal charges on their own, but if Apple considers the matter closed, they won't likely waste any resources on it.

Re:Jail time? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12036185)

He's referencing the new american bankruptcy laws which see a return to ye debtors prisons of olde merry england.

Re:Jail time? (2, Insightful)

avalys (221114) | about 9 years ago | (#12036205)

I suppose Apple has an open-and-shut criminal case against him, and if they wished to they could press criminal charges and have him sent to jail.

But they don't want to, so they won't. That's all they're saying.

Re:Jail time? (1)

AssHatAnonymous (869725) | about 9 years ago | (#12036220)

If he distributed enough it becomes criminal copyright. On the other hand, it would be very hard for a prosecutor to prove a case without Apple being supportive. Generally if you don't want to take part in a case against someone who committed a crime against you, they won't be prosecuted.

Stupid thing to do... (5, Insightful)

jonbeckett73 (847732) | about 9 years ago | (#12035969)

Any of us who work in the commercial sector will know that this guy only has himself to blame, and good on Apple for acting quickly. OSX is commercial software. He signed a NDA. He broke the terms of the agreement. End of story!

Sign on (1, Funny)

nottsp1 (854247) | about 9 years ago | (#12036003)

Steigerwald is actually not a student, but a recent graduate of North Carolina State University who is currently looking for a job...

Good luck, chief.

Ep! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12036039)

Users With Large its corpse turned it tphere. Bring

Why should he be punished? (0, Troll)

Trolling4Columbine (679367) | about 9 years ago | (#12036049)

Apple lost nothing as a result of his actions. In fact, they got a lot of free exposure.

And besides, we all know that there is nothing wrong with violating legal agreements when none of the involved parties is hurt.

I mean, that's why it's OK to share and download copyrighted music, right?

Tiger Preview (5, Insightful)

paithuk (766069) | about 9 years ago | (#12036075)

The idea of the early release is to give developers who are willing to pay significant money, a head start in developing their applications so that they use the very latest and greatest features of the new OS (which in case is spotlight, etc). If Apple weren't to take action against piracy like the for-mentioned then these developers would lose faith and it be a lose-lose situation all round (including the end customer/user).

hang him (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12036151)

high. you agree, you abide.

Praise be to apple!!! (-1, Troll)

Half-Baked (771927) | about 9 years ago | (#12036197)

If it were Microsoft or the **AA people here would be takeing to the streets with pitchforks and torches burning effigies of Bill and others. But oh no Apple can do no wrong anyone who crosses steve is a heretic and should be tortured into submission. Wake up and realize that apple is also a evil corporation who doesn't care about their supporters anymore than the Reich-publicians do. The more poeple who praise apple for sueing their supporters the more of a god complex steve will develop.
but hey thats just my opinon. Peace.

Tiger Leaker, burning bright. (2, Funny)

AtariAmarok (451306) | about 9 years ago | (#12036230)

Incontinent Tiger, burning bright
Apple Secrets, in blog shall write
But tiger urine's not the drink for you
We know panther urine makes Mountain Dew.
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