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PSP Launch Coverage

Zonk posted about 9 years ago | from the psp-easy-as-umd dept.

Portables (Games) 461

Sony's handheld console has launched with great fanfare, and already there are plenty of places to get opinions and reviews. Shacknews has a nice hands on with the player itself, Gamespy has reviews of the launch titles, and Gamespot has coverage of just about everything on its PSP Launch Center page. From the Shacknews hands-on: "Technically speaking, the PSP is a far superior machine to the Game Boy Advance or Nintendo DS. It's a powerhouse device, capable of displaying modern graphics, playing robust sound, and can even replace a portable DVD player. However, many of its launch titles are just watered-down versions of PS2 games and Sony has no experience in portable gaming. Nintendo has been doing it right for a decade and half, why should we think the PSP can just waltz onto the scene and take over? Can it even be done?"

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I guess... (0)

jolande (852630) | about 9 years ago | (#12040406)

Nintendo is teh doomed?

Re:I guess... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040536)


The only thing Nintendo has is the handheld market, and with Sony's might in the console market they will be bringing a whole lot of people who would never consider a handheld into that market. Since the PSP has so many more features than anything Nintendo has, the outlook isn't so rosy for them. They will be in the unusual position of playing catch-up even though they are the dominant player in that area.

Re:I guess... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040616)

The problem is that Nintendo is a Japanese company and lacks the marketing-engine and mouth-to-mouth promotion that native US-companies like Sony have.

Not so fast (2, Interesting)

bonch (38532) | about 9 years ago | (#12040700)

Nintendo is announced a new Gameboy later this year. That's right, the DS isn't the official successor to the Gameboy. It remains to be seen how it will actual be improved over the previous Gameboy and DS, though I have a feeling Nintendo has rejected using optical discs for their portable systems due to load times (and as a result, more wear on the batteries).

Plus, there's been a huge game library built up for the past Gameboy systems, and I'm sure backwards-compatibility will, again, be built in. It's hard to be the huge library available. We shall see. I think this will be as popular as Sega's color handheld was back in the day (that damn thing even had a TV tuner, remember?). I saw a few people with one here and there on the schoolbus back then, and it was the technically better system, but for some reason, Nintendo's ugly green-and-black just won out.

Because it's never been done is not a reason... (5, Insightful)

samdu (114873) | about 9 years ago | (#12040413)

People asked the same things when Sony announced the original Playstation. Give them a shot, it's not like they're totally out of touch with the gaming community.

Re:Because it's never been done is not a reason... (4, Interesting)

exley (221867) | about 9 years ago | (#12040446)

Yeah, considering Sony's and their partners' ability (at least in the past) to get certain things right -- media format, game selection, etc. -- they've definitely got a shot. I have no intention of picking up a DS (the dual-screen, while it may be purposeful, strikes me as gimmicky), but if they can deliver on the game titles front, I'm all for the PSP.

Another selling point is that, from what I understand, PSP games aren't region-coded in any way. As such, I'll be totally stoked if I can play some anime-related and dating sim titles that are sure to come out over in Japan that will never be sold domestically.

Re:Because it's never been done is not a reason... (5, Informative)

boarder8925 (714555) | about 9 years ago | (#12040601)

PSP games aren't region-coded in any way.

Movies, however, are region-locked [wikipedia.org]. That won't stop me from eventually getting the PSP, though. ;)

2D ban (-1, Flamebait)

tepples (727027) | about 9 years ago | (#12040518)

Give [SCEA] a shot, it's not like they're totally out of touch with the gaming community.

You mean like Sony Computer Entertainment America's ban on 2D games for PlayStation 2 that has forced a lot of 2D titles such as the Metal Slug series on to the Xbox and GameCube?

Re:2D ban (4, Insightful)

oGMo (379) | about 9 years ago | (#12040648)

You mean like Sony Computer Entertainment America's ban on 2D games for PlayStation 2 that has forced a lot of 2D titles such as the Metal Slug series on to the Xbox and GameCube?

2D games like Guilty Gear X (and sequels)? Alien Hominid? DDRMAX? Contra: Shattered Soldier? Gradius?

(OK, at least with the last 2 they're rendered with 3D, but they're still 2D sidescrollers.)

Re:2D ban (1)

Chemical (49694) | about 9 years ago | (#12040685)

Uh... there's a ban on 2D? How does one explain the release of Capcom vs. SNK, Guilty Gear X2, and other 2D fighters for the PS2?

Re:Because it's never been done is not a reason... (1)

FuzzyBad-Mofo (184327) | about 9 years ago | (#12040651)

Any bets on the necessity to hold the PSP upside down to prevent malfunction? I loved my original Playstation, but it sure was made poorly.

hmm. (5, Insightful)

muel (132794) | about 9 years ago | (#12040419)

"Nintendo has been doing it right for a decade and half, why should we think the PSP can just waltz onto the scene and take over?"

Maybe I'm crazy, but it looks to me like Sony already has experience in the whole "beating someone after over a decade of dominance" thing.

Re:hmm. (3, Insightful)

echocharlie (715022) | about 9 years ago | (#12040459)

Well, Sony definitely has that going for them. However, their strategy of forcing alternate media formats into (Betamax, MiniDisc) the market has been less than stellar. They're also diverging from the formula that contributed to their success in the video game industry. The PS1 could play CD's, and the PS2 could play DVD's. What can the PSP play? Answer: the proprietary UMD.

Re:hmm. (2, Informative)

ZephyrXero (750822) | about 9 years ago | (#12040519)

I actually think I like the UMD's design...but I do hate that it's proprietary. CD's and DVD's are extremely easy to scratch, so a nice protective shell around them is very welcome...in fact, didn't the first CD's come with caddies? What ever happened to those? I want them back!

What can a Gameboy play? (2, Insightful)

bogie (31020) | about 9 years ago | (#12040686)

You'd have a point if every single portable gaming device ever made didn't rely on proprietary cartridges. I think your point about them trying to force an alternate media is completely invalid because there is no other mass market alternative.

Re:hmm. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040538)

Given Sony's track record of easily breakable hardware for the first 2 Playstation systems, and the numberous cries of "dead pixels" surrounding the launch of the PSP...I think Nintendo will stay on top for a while. People enjoy a name they can depend on...especially in the hands of children.

Re:hmm. (1)

UWC (664779) | about 9 years ago | (#12040606)

The DS had the "Dead pixels!" problem, too. The top screen of mine has one. Nintendo, though, has already said that they would replace units with dead pixels within the 1 year warranty period. Plus, it's more likely to have dead pixels on larger screens.

Just thought I'd provide at least a slight counterpoint to that.

Maybe im crazy too, but I loved that quote (2, Interesting)

sjwt (161428) | about 9 years ago | (#12040583)

"Nintendo has been doing it right for a decade and half, why should we think the PSP can just waltz onto the scene and take over?"

WTF? If MS had done to the PC what Nintendo did to the hand held gaming market, it would make the current and past antitrust cases look like a walk in the park.

remember the Sega game gear or the Atari Lynx?
Those other hand helds that are also dam close to a decade and a half old.. remember colour screens and the ability to watch TV on them(well i only remember the GG having a TV adapter but i never liked the lynx)

Imagine MS having held us back at Dos 5 for 10 long years as the default desktop OS, and Linux and Mac having systems of today to compete with Dos 5 and 386's, but still losing?

Re:hmm. (1)

Monkelectric (546685) | about 9 years ago | (#12040683)

"Nintendo has been doing it right for a decade and half, why should we think the PSP can just waltz onto the scene and take over?" Maybe I'm crazy, but it looks to me like Sony already has experience in the whole "beating someone after over a decade of dominance" thing.

There will *ALWAYS* be room for sony in the portables market because nintendo has very tight control over what kind of games can appear on their system. Sony basically invented the market for *adult* videogames.

shoot me (-1, Troll)

stoolpigeon (454276) | about 9 years ago | (#12040423)

It's a gaming device. I don't care what Kaz "The button isn't supposed to line up over its contact, because we designed it that way" Harai says. It's a gaming device, with some extra functions I'm not interested in.

MP3 playback? I could get an iPod for a little more, and save thousands of dollars in memory sticks to get the capacity I'd want. If I want something to play music on, I'll get something with that purpose designed into it, and not one where I need to buy hundreds of Sony Memory Stick Duos at their outrageous prices to fit all my music on. 40 GB of Memory Stick Duos is over $10K... no thanks, I'll spend $400-$500 on an iPod first.

Movie playback? I don't feel like buying my movies AGAIN on another proprietary format just to be able to watch them on the go. I can get a portable DVD player, and have all my DVD extras (because I'm fairly certain all the bonus features I buy DVDs for won't be on UMDs), and not have to buy my movies all over again.

So, yeah, it's a gaming device, with other things thrown on top to try and justify the price and the hype. It's also how Sony really hopes that they can sell tons and tons of Memory Sticks.

Re:shoot me (1)

sanosuke001 (640243) | about 9 years ago | (#12040507)

Why an iPod? Why does everyone HAVE to get an ipod? I'd rather use the PSP before I EVER think about buying an ipod. I don't listen to more than 1-2GB of music on my MP3 player at a time anyway. I'll probably pick up either 2x512MB duos or a GB duo and then I'll be able to put movies, music and photos on it. The ipod (or any other mp3 player) can't do movies. Sounds like better than a shitty ipod to me...

oh, and I can also play games too

Re:shoot me (2, Interesting)

radish (98371) | about 9 years ago | (#12040532)

40 GB of Memory Stick Duos is over $10K

A 1gb MS Duo is $110, so 40GB would be $4400. Sure it's a lot, but you are out by more than 100%. PSP is not an iPod, plenty of people use flash mp3 players with less than 1gb on them. It might not suit you, but it might suit others just fine.

I can get a portable DVD player, and have all my DVD extras (because I'm fairly certain all the bonus features I buy DVDs for won't be on UMDs), and not have to buy my movies all over again.

Or you can rip your exising DVDs to mp4, and watch them on your PSP for free, just like I do.

Sony really hopes that they can sell tons and tons of Memory Sticks.

Given that they overcharge for MS versus what others (like SanDisk) charge, I don't think they'll be selling many.

So, yeah, it's a gaming device

It's a FUCKING good gaming device. And you're right, that's what's important.

Don't knock it till you try it (4, Informative)

badboy_tw2002 (524611) | about 9 years ago | (#12040545)

I was thinking the exact same thing, even last night. I didn't even know the thing was coming out until the guy in the next cube said something about it. I asked the price and he says "$250", and I almost spat out my coke. "WTF $250 for a portable? Hello TurboGraphix16!" That is until he brought his to work today. WOW. Seriously, like holding this thing is like being able to hold on of those fake portable electornic devices they always have on shows from the "near future". The screen on this baby is BEAUTIFUL. Try playing Metroid on the DS with its squinty little screen, then bust out Waverunner on the PSP and see which one is better. As for MP3 playing, well, I don't know. I think if you think of it as a game machine first and Mp3 player as an extra, it makes better sense. Movie playing I can see though. Yeah, its a second format, but I usually rent movies anyways. If blockbuster rents these I could easily see taking this on a trip and watching movies here. The picture quality is great, easily beats some dedicated portable DVD players costing as much. Bottom line: don't knock this sexy beast until you've actually used it.

Re:Don't knock it till you try it (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | about 9 years ago | (#12040710)

I'm not super interested in buying movies for the format, but what _does_ interest me would be the ability to:

1) Watch TV episodes while I'm on the bus or at lunch or on a plane. I don't like watching tv as it's broadcast; I prefer to watch on my own schedule.

2) _Rent_ a UMD movie for a plane flight.

3) How about an external TV tuner add-on to watch TV wherever you're at? Or listen to radio? That'd be nice. (XM & Sirius, are you listening?)

There are a lot of accessories due out by the end of May (check out the 'Pimp My PSP' article at 1up.com for pics & info), one of which is a combination keyboard/screen cover. I'm _really_ hoping Sony opens up the platform to running applications off the memory stick. If so, this could be a pretty amazing platform for a lot more than just games.

Hopefully technology will advance enough by the time of the PSP2 that they can fit a cellphone (no side-talking, just use your bluetooth earpiece) into the beast. Hopefully a DVD resolution OLED will be practical by then, as well. And a faster and less battery-hungry UMD would be nice. I also think making the entire UMD area a modular bay would be great. If you don't need the UMD, swap it out for a Compact Flash slot, or an IR remote for your TV. Ah, well, I'm a dreamer, I know.

re: battery life

In that 1up.com I mentioned above - someone's coming out with a replacement battery/batterycover with twice the energy of the stock PSP battery. Sweet. Per volume, stock Sony batteries pretty much suck compared to the latest AA rechargables out there. Sony can do _way_ better, and this proves it. Too bad they didn't go with AA batteries for the PSP; that technology is now _very_ mature.

Re:shoot me (2, Insightful)

qopax (782239) | about 9 years ago | (#12040569)

umm, shacknews reviews it strictly as a gaming device, and it still comes out on top. the extras are just the frosting. and we all love frosting :)

but seriously, you can put any movie you want on a gigabyte memory stick, and considering there's always new music, I always preferred flash memory for mp3 players. I can play my favorites on my home stereo if I need to.

And I don't even know where the hell you pulled that stupid 40k figure out of. ZipZoomFly had a sandisk memory stick pro duo 1gb for 67 dollars a couple of days ago. I even got myself one. Too bad it's sold out now.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp? Pr oductCode=82531

Re:shoot me (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040581)

Deja Vu.....

Can you keep your Nintindo fanboy posts in the thread you posted them, please?

Re:shoot me (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040605)

check the sig... and if that's not bad enough-- i didn't write the original. so i'm a real loser or a complete genius depending on your perspective.

Re:shoot me (4, Insightful)

Tumbleweed (3706) | about 9 years ago | (#12040589)

I'd say the PSP is a _much_ better mp3 player than the iPod is a game machine. Sony isn't saying it's an iPod-killer, so get over it, already. It's a gaming machine that does other things, and that's cool.

Mod Up! (1)

bogie (31020) | about 9 years ago | (#12040729)

I'm sorry but the grandparent obivously isn't in the target market. There are a tons of users out there who have $300 to spend on an IPod and would love something where they can game, play music, watch movies etc. No way one device can beat the best of every category, ie be better then and Ipod for music, be better than a whatever for gaming etc. That's just an unreasonable standard which nobody can realistically meet.

Re:shoot me (1)

ThomS (866280) | about 9 years ago | (#12040720)

I have a perfectly good mp3 player too, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't mind not lugging it around when I'm playing games. Extra functionality when implemented well can be a good thing.

Re:shoot me (2, Insightful)

boingyzain (739759) | about 9 years ago | (#12040726)

At $125 each [ecost.com], 40gb of Memory Stick Duos is actually only $5,000.

But, seriously, the PSP isn't meant for people who are going to be having 40gb of music. It isn't meant for people to backup their harddrive onto. Its meant for people to buy 2gb of memory and put some music on it, and fill the rest with movies. And when you're done with those movies and bored of those songs, you swap them out for new ones.

You can't really compare an iPod, a music-only device, to only the music function of the PSP. It would be like me saying the DS is way better than iPod because the games on the iPod suck.

By the way, you can reencode your DVDs down to 300mb each and play them from your Memory Sticks without having to buy a UMD.

Watered down? (2, Insightful)

spyder913 (448266) | about 9 years ago | (#12040424)

However, many of its launch titles are just watered-down versions of PS2 games
Yeah because it's not like the biggest appeal of the GBA/DS games are all the SNES ports/rehashes.

Re:Watered down? (1)

ajlitt (19055) | about 9 years ago | (#12040505)

Don't forget all five-billion iterations of Pokemon, or the piles of movie franchise games with as much entertainment value as E.T. for the Atari.

Seriously, ten minutes with Lumines can convince even the most thick-headed brand bigot that Sony's developer lineup is solid.

Re:Watered down? (1)

rokzy (687636) | about 9 years ago | (#12040526)

AFAIK the Gameboy of old was based on things like Tetris and the new one is based on things like Pokemon - not rehashes.

Plus the DS has a *more* advanced version of the N64s Mario 64, not a SNES rehash.

Anyway, the point I think the original comment was trying to make is that Nintendo (et al.) has lots of experience making portable games whereas if you look at the PSP lineup you'll see that they're all the kind of thing you'd rather play on a proper console and big TV. Conversely the Tetris/Pokemon kind of thing works *better* on a small handheld than a main console.

Re:Watered down? (1)

ZephyrXero (750822) | about 9 years ago | (#12040576)

Don't forget that the DS isn't even 6 months old yet! How long did it take before the first decent PS2 game came out? Well over a year. Ports are an obvious choice for launch because they're quick and easy, and already proven to sell well... You'll see alot more cool stuff in the years to come :)

I hope not (1)

Winckle (870180) | about 9 years ago | (#12040429)

I hope I do not sound too much like a fanboy, but the handheld market is Nintendo's last "stronghold" as it were, especially here in the UK were Sony is the market leader by a huge lead. I don't want the handheld gaming market to become flooded with third party games, like the PS home console format. The best games for the GBA right now, are not the third party offerings, they are Nintendo's first party games.

Re:I hope not-oops (1)

Winckle (870180) | about 9 years ago | (#12040447)

I don't want the handheld gaming market to become flooded with third party games What I meant to say is that the market could become flooded with only poor quality third party games

Re:I hope not (1)

radish (98371) | about 9 years ago | (#12040614)

Well, looking on the bright side, Sony have gone from competing with Sony to creating some of the best games on that platform. There's nothing stopping Nintendo becoming a software house and publishing those great games (I love monkey ball, mario party, etc) for other platforms.

Strangely depressed (1)

bonch (38532) | about 9 years ago | (#12040724)

Weirdly, I feel kind of depressed that Nintendo may lose their handheld market successes because of the PSP. That would be a death knell for Nintendo unless it can pull itself out of its slump with the upcoming Revolution and Gameboy successor.

Nintendo, it's time to knock one out of the park.

Gamestop (4, Interesting)

superpulpsicle (533373) | about 9 years ago | (#12040436)

I went to Gamestop earlier today. Some poor guy pre ordered a PSP and got the system. When he asked for games, the store guys said "Too bad, every PSP game has been either sold or are on reserve".

I cannot remember the last time a system launched and 100% of a store's inventory is gone.

I'll hold out (1)

blackmonday (607916) | about 9 years ago | (#12040439)

I'm personally holding out until the library gets bigger, the price goes down, and memory sticks get cheaper. I would like to watch movies/TV shows on the go, but for now I have Bejeweled on my cell phone, a GBA for Galaga and an iPod. Come tho think of it, the only game I ever play on the GBA is old school Galaga.

Give me Bejeweled and Galaga on the PSP and I just might get one!

Zookeeper (1)

tepples (727027) | about 9 years ago | (#12040580)

Zookeeper (a game similar to Bejeweled) is on the Nintendo DS. Galaga is on the Game Boy Advance, and the DS plays all single-player games that work on a GBA SP.

Market Dominance? (3, Insightful)

yuriismaster (776296) | about 9 years ago | (#12040441)

Sony has no experience in portable gaming. Nintendo has been doing it right for a decade and half, why should we think the PSP can just waltz onto the scene and take over?

I think this is kinda like when the XBox came out:

Microsoft has no experience in console gaming. Nintendo has been doing it right for a decade and half, why should we think the Xbox can just waltz onto the scene and take over?

While these are not quite the same scenarios, both MS and Sony have advantages in these new markets: MS had a hojillion dollars and Sony has the console market by the balls. PlayStation fans will probably pick up the PSP, and that could really make the PSP turn up in the black (not to pun the PSP's color)

Sony has no fans. (0)

elucido (870205) | about 9 years ago | (#12040521)

There are fans of the third party developers who work for Sony, but Sony is not a gaming company and has no fans. In the end, Nintendo makes better games and if PSP has no games no one will ever buy it. I don't think a bunch of third party games will help it, NGage, remember that? Remember Gamegear? Nintendo beat both of them easily, I don't see how Sony can sell in Japan at all and in the USA Gameboy has so much marketshare that Nintendo could just release another Gameboy with backward compatibility and it would kill Sony in the same way Sony is killing everyone because they released PS2 with backward compatibility.

Re:Market Dominance? (1)

radish (98371) | about 9 years ago | (#12040568)


Sony have already taken over a market owned by Nintendo and Sega. Sega no longer make hardware, and Nintendo are left with one marginally successful line (GC), and one which supports their company (GB/DS). I wouldn't be comfortable if I worked for the big N right now.

Can't be all bad (1)

moffatt (834508) | about 9 years ago | (#12040451)

It's been awhile since we've had a new portable console that wasn't from Nintendo. So I think I'll at least check it out, Sony has not let me down since the playstation came out. Where as Nintendo really disapointed me with the N64, which I thought was pure crap, and I havn't looked back since.

In Japan (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040452)

In Japan we have these for long time. You Americans are so stupid. We let you have them just now. hahaha.

A problem? (4, Insightful)

LegendOfLink (574790) | about 9 years ago | (#12040457)

What I see a problem is perception. Most of my friends enjoy playing games like Minish Cap and old school mario on their GBA's.

In fact, playing these games on the GBA is almost an excuse to return back to the simpler, yet highly addictive, 16-bit era where pixels were the rage and polygons only existed in arcades.

When I think of Sony, I think of Gran Turismo and realistic RPG's, not quirky sprites with catchy music that makes me want to play my GBA.

Maybe if Sony could get something like Bubble Bobble or another old franchise, PSP would have more appeal.

Just my two cents.

Lag... (1)

kryogen1x (838672) | about 9 years ago | (#12040461)

From GameTab:

Need for Speed Underground Rivals

A couple times I experienced some pretty bad slowdown. At one point during a race, all four cars were basically ramming into each other and the game dropped to about three frames per second. When I came around to that same point the next lap, there was no collision and no slowdown. I've read that I'm not alone in this situation.

Is this a hardware or software problem?

Re:Lag... (1)

radish (98371) | about 9 years ago | (#12040592)

I've got a bunch of games on my PSP and have been playing them for a while. NFSU is FAR slower than anything else I've played - to the point of being jerky at times. Given the super slickness of games like Ridge Racer, I'd lay the blame at EA's door.

Re:Lag... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040630)

Frankly, console gamers generally don't give a shit.

"It's slow!"

No excuse is adequate.

Sony was another electronics company before the PS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040465)

Before 1994, Sony was just an electronics company that was popular because of the walkman. It revolutionised the market with the playstation. I don't see why it can't revolutionise handhelds with the PSP.

Got a PSP, need more puzzle games... (4, Informative)

jared_hanson (514797) | about 9 years ago | (#12040468)

I picked up a PSP, and I must say I am impressed. The device is great, technically and asthetically.

I also picked up two games, Tony Hawk and Lumines. I've had the chance to play each for about 30 minutes, and I must say, the PSP needs more games like Lumines (which is a puzzle game similar to Tetris, for those unaware.)

The great thing about those types of games, is they are quick to play. You can pick it up and put it down at any time, without having to get into a story or finish some long drawn-out goal or mission. I'm hoping both Sony and the game studios see a benefit in creating more games like this, especially for the PSP, but also stand-alone consoles.

I've posted links to pictures and more info to my blog [backdrifter.com], if you are interested. More info will be posted as I get a chance.

Re:Got a PSP, need more puzzle games... (1)

FidelCatsro (861135) | about 9 years ago | (#12040525)

This seems to be my major problem with the PSP , it seems to be more a desktop replacment than a portable .Saying that i will definantly get one as i expect (semi)portable GTA 3.
Though first im getting a Nintendo DS as it just has more portable titles, I dont see the PSP as being direct competition right now as the games its offering are far closer to the home systems than to mobile games.
This is hopefully a lesson sony will learn , as we have seen the gameboy and kin come up against technicaly superior products before

Full PSP Coverage (1)

syr (647840) | about 9 years ago | (#12040476)

Detailed information on the PSP launch titles is available at GameTab on our PSP page. [gametab.com] Here you can see all titles which have been announced and you can see how each title has fared with reviewers thus far.

One of the most popular PSP titles with critics and gamers has been Lumines [gametab.com]. It has also been one of the games flying off the shelves the fastest. It's being hailed as the best puzzle game since Tetris. Only time will tell if Lumines performs as a system seller in the same way that Tetris did for the original GameBoy. From the list of PSP titles at the site you can see that driving games in particular are performing well at launch.

GameTab [gametab.com] - The Game News & Reviews Compilation Site

And you can get a Free PSP too! (-1, Offtopic)

Mulletproof (513805) | about 9 years ago | (#12040482)

Come on, you know this was coming... But don't tell me it ain't an awesome deal. WARNING! Not for people with the attention span of a nat! Remember free ipods? Same deal. pay attention, use a disposable email addy and you should be fine.

launch titles (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040494)

The article reviews a football game, two racing games, and a skate boarding game... great... Am I the only one who is almost always bored to tears by sports video games? I mean, I can play football if I want to play football. What I can't do is go assassinate someone or rule a kingdom or slay a dragon or what have you. Those things are what make fun games.

Hhhhm... (4, Insightful)

hollismb (817357) | about 9 years ago | (#12040495)

I don't know a single person who's even considering getting a PSP. Sure, we all agree it looks like a great little machine, but it seems that almost all it's selling features are just so... limited. The comment from the post is right on. Do I really need another Wipeout or Ridge Racer game? Wasn't I playing those on the first Playstation, like um, ten years ago?

I can play more music on a dedicated mp3 player, and for less money. A 4 gig iPod Mini costs 199, and this is 249 + another 119 or so for a gig of storage. That's not very good. I can also use an iPod for days before it dies, when a PSP will probably wear out in about five hours, which is shorter by far than your average work day.

Oh, but it can play movies! Yeah, but I'm not going out and buying the same movies I already own just in case I randomly want to watch them on a 4 inch screen (assuming they even come out), or spending the time to convert a movie to the MP4 format, then copy it to a huge memory stick, only to erase it again if I'd rather take something else on the go, well, that just seems like a pain in the ass to me.

So, I'm left with games, pretty much. Games that I played and got sick of ten. years. ago.

Re:Hhhhm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040656)

I don't know a single person who's even considering getting a DS. Sure, we all agree it looks like a great little machine, but it seems that almost all it's selling features are just so... limited. The comment from the post is right on. Do I really need another Mario or Metroid game? Wasn't I playing those on the SNES, like um, ten years ago?

I can play more games on a dedicated GBA player, and for less money. A GBA SP costs less the a hundred, and this is 150 + another 30 or so for a rehashed game. That's not very good. I can also use an GBA for days before it dies, when a DS will probably wear out in about 7 hours, which is shorter than your average work day.

Oh, but it has a touch screen! Yeah, but I'm not going out and buying the same games I already own just in case I randomly want to touch them on a tiny screen (assuming they even come out), or spending the time to get surgiry for carpal tunnel, then sue Nintendo, only to hurt myself again if I take it on the go, well, that just seems like a pain in the wrist to me.

So, I'm left with games, pretty much. Games that I played and got sick of ten. years. ago.

Re:Hhhhm... (1)

hollismb (817357) | about 9 years ago | (#12040676)

Well said. Also why I don't own a DS, nor does anyone I know. We'd just buy the SP if we wanted a portable system.

Re:Hhhhm... (1, Flamebait)

karnal (22275) | about 9 years ago | (#12040698)

God... Damn.. .it...

This device isn't for you. In fact, this device isn't for me either.

But I really don't give a shit that it costs more than an ipod mini. I really don't care that you can buy 2 of X when you can only buy one of the PSP.

I saw the unit today... Lemme tell you, if they come out with a few of the games I like, I may just fork up the money.

So, when a new product comes out, let's compare it to ALL THE THINGS it isn't. Jesus.

I hate slashdot.

I just wrote my local paper about this (5, Interesting)

yagu (721525) | about 9 years ago | (#12040497)

I just read about this in the Seattle Times, and wrote a letter to the columnist (the article is: PlayStation Portable: Sony's new handheld does a lot more than play games [nwsource.com]):

Hi Mark,

Long time Seattle Times reader here....

Liked your article on Sony's new playstation... a few thoughts though...

I too have long considered Sony to be a great innovator but here is what has frustrated me for sooooo long and here is why I probably will NEVER buy a Sony product again unless and until they change some of their practices.... I'll illustrate by example:

  • long ago, after a few years of owning one of Yamaha's very first digital receivers with no remote control, I decided to "move up".... and fell in lust with a nice Sony unit at the local electronics store (this was in Omaha)... The Sony boasted 100 watts per channel to my Yamaha's 50 watts per channel AND it had a remote control. I excitedly told the salesman how much I looked forward to having a remote control unit and the doubling of the power would be a nice bonus. When I told him I was "replacing" my Yamaha, to his credit, he stopped me and told me if I took the Sony home I would be SO disappointed. He said the 100 watt Sony in a side-by-side comparison with my 50 watt Yamaha would be pathetic, the Sony wouldn't even stand a chance. Whaaaa? He also showed me how when you turned the volume all the way up on the Sony when it was set to phono input (yes it was in the day of LP's), you could hear bleed over sound from the FM tuner, ick..... He told me to try that with the Yamaha, I did, dead silence... He explained Sony sold sizzle, but no steak.... by skimping on things like shielding on wires to block induction of adjacent signal sources. Okay, lesson learned.... but my Sony radar was up.
  • Skip to the mid 90's or so. I was absolutely infatuated with Sony's new Minidisk format -- what a cool way to have such great sounding music in such a small form factor. Granted, the recording unit I purchased was $700, but I was willing to pay the bleeding edge price knowing from experience technology prices drop steeply and when I would be ready to buy additional units I could get a comparable recorder for less than half the price I paid then. I watched for 2 years.... no price drop.... mentioned to a salesman at Magnolia (now I'd moved to Seattle)... He explained the minidisk technology was Sony's own proprietary format, and Sony had refused to license the technology to anyone else for any reasonable fees and thus maintained a lock on the market and the pricing... and that was the reason the price never came down. Shit! My original unit has long since broken and I have long since abandoned Minidisks.
  • Then came digital cameras. Again, Sony jumped in with THEIR answer to the evolving standard storage media at the time, their memory stick.... proprietary, expensive, and non-standard. This time I didn't bite, but watched the same behavior... the memory stick, while adopted by some never came down in price and never was released from the Sony control. (Their prerogative of course.)
  • Now they've introduced their UMDs (Universal Media Discs), a proprietary new medium , yet ANOTHER proprietary format?!? It's almost unbelievable -- they're kind of like the Microsoft of the electronics industry except they don't have near the control and monopoly. No thanks, I don't need their proprietary solutions that are incompatible with anything else I own....

    Come to think of it... I'm not so surprised, or maybe it's a lucky thing Sony's Beta never became the standard, while I wasn't really there to be part of that decision in my purchasing power... but maybe VHS was the better choice after all (even though it wasn't quite as good technically).

    Just my $.02

    Anyway, thanks for the article, a good read....

what about battery time on these? (3, Interesting)

xutopia (469129) | about 9 years ago | (#12040501)

I can't seem to find any benchmark on this.

Re:what about battery time on these? (2, Informative)

Cadmus (317743) | about 9 years ago | (#12040645)

According to the CNN article here [cnn.com], about four hours appears to be the norm.

Re:what about battery time on these? (1)

arodland (127775) | about 9 years ago | (#12040649)

My rommate says his reports 4-4.5 hours available when it's charged. Whether it actually lives up to that while playing games or movies remains to be seen, as does the long-term performance (Li-ion batteries have a disheartening tendency to lose the top 20% of their capacity within about the first month)

Three words: (1)

suitepotato (863945) | about 9 years ago | (#12040524)

Sega Game Gear

So I need another console squashed thanks to advancing technology into a smaller space and now I should go hog wild over it.

One more word (if you can call it that): OQO

Wake me when someone ports BSD to it as has been done with the Sega Dreamcast.

Just picked up two (1)

vluther (5638) | about 9 years ago | (#12040542)

Just picked up two units. One was a pre-order at EB, and one a walk in at Target. So far.. I am VERY impressed with sound quality, and aesthetics. Ridge Racer and Need for Speed Rivals look awesome.

Very easy to use and comfortable grip. The screen is so high gloss/brite whatever. It makes you hesitant to breath on it though. So shiny..

Ok back to playing.

Check out my site for more reviews later. Nothing there right now :). [pspcult.com]

Thoughts from a retail drone (3, Interesting)

Gadzuko (712568) | about 9 years ago | (#12040543)

I work at Gamestop, and I can tell you that there is a lot more buzz about the PSP than there ever was about the DS. We had extras of the DS, we have plenty of them lying around now that we can't get rid of as a matter of fact. The PSP? Nope. First and second shipments, both reserved out. There's a lot more interest from consumers, and Sony has been hyping this (at least to the retail outlets) a lot less than Nintendo hyped the DS.

Ahh but is it playable? (3, Interesting)

RiotXIX (230569) | about 9 years ago | (#12040544)

I'm a big fan of sitting down in a *proper* armchair in front of a giant flat screen television with a controller in my hand (maybe even a little high), but that's not the quite the same as wincing at a high defenition graphics on a bumpy car/train journey, is it?

The other day I bought a snes controller from ebay, & a snes adapter. To be perfectly honest, the idea of reliving a bunch of *hard* hand/eye reaction platform games from 1996 got me a lot more excited than I was when I received the latest GTA clone (as great as that game is)...some games are designed for long hours in comfortable conditions (high res rpg's) - others are just quick, skillfull and fun. In an era where platform games are becoming extinct thanks to every console manufacturer bragging about their console being better soley on the basis of hardware specifications (before a games line is even released), I took solice in the fact that, as good as the latest armchair console gets, I could always go retro with some hardcore platform/strategy games (has bomberman even been ported to the X-box/PS2)??

This might not be such a good thing. There's no way I'd consider completing (and hence for that matter starting) half the games in my PS2 collection on a portable device.

The question is age... (2, Insightful)

soniCron88 (870042) | about 9 years ago | (#12040573)

Are the USERS old enough for it? After all, when the NES was hitting it big, most of the audience was pre-teen (though not all, of course). The audience of gaming consoles seems to have grown up with each subsequent system. People who buy systems are getting increasingly older, and I don't think that it's so much because a lot of the content appeals to older audiences, though that may drive some of the youngest players away. I think it's because it's the same generation of NES hardcores (and to a certain extent the 2600 generation) that have been the biggest buyers of systems.

There is obviously some bleed in the age around the edges, but it is my understanding that it's been roughly the same age group that's been following the gaming industry along all these years. If this is the case, a lot of these older gamers now have jobs. And $200 is a lot cheaper to a 20-something than a 13 year old with an allowance.

Especially since the PSP is capable of so much (music, videos, photos, etc), the older crowd that's been following for so long can now get a fancy new hi-tech device that serves a lot of their purposes. After all, why have an iPod, portable DVD player (I know it doesn't play DVDs), and a GameBoy when you can have all in one? Personally, I'm rooting for Nintendo, as I don't really care for all these extra bits (I just wanna play some games), but frankly I believe Sony's got the market on this now.

Finally, the system doesn't have to rely on excellent titles to make it work all the way, because they have some backup with the extra features included. And even so, we all know Sony's track record with title quality... Sorry Nintendo. It was nice knowing you.

A System Was Released Today?! (1)

BRock97 (17460) | about 9 years ago | (#12040586)

Greatings from Omaha, Nebraska.

I will preface this with I am a game nerd so I usually follow these launches with incredible interest. That said, this one was rather a dud here as you could still pick one up about 30 minutes ago.

This morning, the Best Buy stores here (of which there are two) started their day at 8:01 a.m. Seems they expected demand to be extremely high for this and planned accordingly. I have a friend that still works for one of the stores and he mentioned there was a line when he got in about 7 and it was about 10 long. I thought about being apart of that, but it has been raining all day and I had no interest in getting drenched.

This afternoon, I went to Gamestop to pickup a used Gameboy Advanced game and the store had about 5 that I could see, but they were set aside for pre-orders. The games, on the other hand, lined a section of shelves and their selection was good. I was surprised they hadn't been picked up yet, but the clerk said after the initial rush, things had really slacked off. Having the systems pre-ordered, I guess people weren't too motivated to get them right away.

Now, jump to about 30 minutes ago. I went to the Buy to pickup an actual Gameboy Advanced as a gift, and was shocked to see over 150 sitting on a table at the front of the store. Along with that, there was another 10 back in a special sales area just for the PSP. Boy, was I glad I didn't get in line this morning. Along these lines, they sounded like they were actually out of games, as a person was asking for one (which I couldn't hear) and they had to go into the back room to see if there were any drop shipments.

After all was said and done, I was surprised. I actually stood in line for a Gamecube some years back, and they sold out of those (now, they only had around 40 of those, mind you), so to see that many on the shelf after the media blitz that Sony put out kind of floored me.

Here's to hoping they are there tomorrow when I get my next paycheck....

How portable is portable? (1, Troll)

poot_rootbeer (188613) | about 9 years ago | (#12040588)

I saw somebody with a PSP on the train the other day, and what really surprised me about it was its SIZE. Meaning, the thing is huge. Like, Atari Lynx huge. Like, four-iPod-minis-next-to-each-other huge.

It won't fit in your pocket.

Has Sony, in their zeal to put a large screen on their handheld (and I'll admit, the screen is pretty sweet-looking), missed the point that portable devices should be, well, portable?

The Nintendo DS seems to suffer from this same problem -- it's easily twice the size of a Gamebody Advance SP, which means it's half as portable. How much more size expansion will the "handheld" market tolerate?

Re:How portable is portable? (1)

macshit (157376) | about 9 years ago | (#12040725)

Yeah, the PSP is large, and worse, it's very heavy. If you could cram it in your pocket, it'd drag your pants down... :-)

The controls also kinda suck.

I'd far rather see something like a wider GBA SP -- not DS wide, but about 50% wider than the SP -- with a screen that completely occupies the top half, and a decent analogue controller in the sweet spot on the lower half (unlike the PSP, which has Sony's horrid digital pad there).

"Technically speaking". (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040639)

Technically speaking, the PSP is a far superior machine to the Game Boy Advance or Nintendo DS

Yeah, whatever. The Game Gear is technically speaking a far superior machine to the Game Boy, as is the Atari Lynx. The Nomad is technically speaking a far superior machine to the Game Boy Color. Come to think of it every single handheld ever released by someone other than Nintendo has been technically speaking superior to whatever Nintendo was selling at the time. But the Nintendo system's always sold better, and frankly, except for the case of the Neo Geo Pocket Color the Nintendo system's always been the better buy-- as it is now.

Corporations somehow just don't get this. Technical superiority isn't what makes a handheld good. Portability is. Pretty polygons aren't a big deal if your total battery life goes down to two and a half hours on the wrong game, all the games have loading times, and you're always worried about the unit being unpaused or scratched up by your keys while it's in your pocket because the face is exposed.

I don't want my handheld to be a ps2 only smaller, with fewer games, and nearly twice the price. I want something portable.

Encode your own movies on the PSP (1)

kyoko21 (198413) | about 9 years ago | (#12040644)

You can encode your own movies on the PSP using the MSSW-IC2 [sonystyle.com] software available from Sony. For any other accessories, you can visit here [sonystyle.com]. You can find the 1GB Memory Stick there.

Nice PSP video feature (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040653)

Gamespot and IGN have had some great coverage, but I haven't seen any site do a hands on video like the one I saw at Pro-G [pro-g.co.uk]. The video is about ten minutes long and looks at movie playback and four games. It also compares the PSP to the DS. It is well worth a watch.

the question on all our minds: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040701)

does it run linux

Is it me.. (1)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | about 9 years ago | (#12040731)

Is it me or is the PSP getting FAR more attenction then the DS did? I'll freely admit I'm a loyal Nintendo fan and don't trust Sony consoles as far as I can throw them (nice that they will work only a few years after I bought them.. saddly my PS2 doesn't and it doesn't seem uncommon). Yet I still have a perfectly fine NES, SNES and several brick GBs.. but it does seem the PSP is all over slashdot right now and it's all "The PSP is better because it has eye candy".. maybe a little one sided topics?

Ironic... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#12040737)

Isn't it ironic that the icon next to the PSP article is an old-school gameboy?

Nintendo doing it right? (1)

kryocore (629960) | about 9 years ago | (#12040742)

Nintendo has been doing it right for a decade and half, why should we think the PSP can just waltz onto the scene and take over?

Speak for yourself. Nintendo's whole "more power doesn't make it more fun" is being taken way to seriously in my opinion. I don't know a guy out there with some real balls who doesn't like a nice 1920X1200 screen resolution with a 60FPS framerate.
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