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Open Source Social Bookmarking Service

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the and-share-alike dept.

The Internet 263

comforteagle writes "This past week I launched an open source social bookmarking competitor to del.icio.us - de.lirio.us. After running it for a while open to the public it appears to be running relatively bug free so this is the invitation to the Slashdot crowd. The code is entirely open and the content is cc licensed, so I'm sure it won't take too long for folks to cook up some additional tools aside from the blogging feature. For those not familiar the meme is social bookmarking, which is basically a service to share bookmarks publicly instead (or in addition to) only within your browser. There are lots of other additional benefits, but that's the gist of it. More details here and here."

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263 comments

In Soviet Canuckistan... (-1, Offtopic)

ABeowulfCluster (854634) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086189)

'Socialize' has a different meaning. p.s. Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of Soviet Russian linux powered PSP's which PLAY YOU!

Re:In Soviet Canuckistan... (-1, Offtopic)

JesusCigarettes (838611) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086215)

Pshaw. Only old Korean people use beowulf clusters of social bookmarking software.

Shouldn't there be a "Cliche" selection for modding people down?

...okay... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086192)

So how is this an advantage over del.icio.us, exactly?

I mean, having source code to a del.icio.us like service available is nice, don't get me wrong. But I don't see how it makes del.irio.us itself any better. I'm not going to be upgrading the software on del.irio.us anytime soon.

Re:...okay... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086210)

I'm not going to be upgrading the software on del.irio.us anytime soon.

Unless you take advantage of the publicly available source code to look for places they improperly guarded their eval() statements.

If you get my drift

Re:...okay... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086440)

I guess it is written in this disgusting, childish "RUBY"-language, developed so that 14 year old female bloggers feel like they "are into IT" (much like PHP does to 12 year old boys).

RUBY, as many of you might not know, is a rudimentary functional bad fake of the excellent Python.

Re:...okay... (1)

jagger (23047) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086263)

Now if people want to hack on new features they can add code to the server side as well as the client side.

Re:...okay... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086322)

I mean, having source code to a del.icio.us like service available is nice, don't get me wrong.

Oh, but I do "get you wrong". Don't you understand the benefits of open source? If you seriously have to ask why it's better, you probably don't "get" open source.

Re:...okay... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086546)

I'm glad you "get" open source. But pray tell, is your anus licensed with under the GPL? Do you drop trou and bend over whenever a random guy whips out his dick?


Oh wait, i bet you do. Carry on.

Re:...okay... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086343)

GNU/NotInventedHere

Open Source Social Engineering Service (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086418)

Aww I read it as Open Source Social Engineering Service before I neglected to RTFA. Would have made a much better FA...

Nice Ad (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086198)

Aren't you supposed to pay for ads on this site...

Re:Nice Ad (5, Funny)

The Amazing Fish Boy (863897) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086330)

Aren't you supposed to pay for ads on this site...

Yeah, this is shameful, shameful behaviour.

--
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Re:Nice Ad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086341)

I haven't laughed out loud at work in a long time. Thanks!

fp! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086213)

fp?

Re:fp! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086475)

Just like a Ruby-user, you fail it.

I don't understand... (5, Insightful)

Icarus1919 (802533) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086216)

Maybe it's just me, that's a possibility, but I don't understand people's fascination with these kinds of services. Blogging, bookmark sharing, it all seems to me like a cry for attention from other people. Blogging looks like it could be fun, but I never participated in it because it always seemed as if no one would ever particularly are about my life, and if they did, it would say more about their life than mine. For the same reason, I probably wouldn't participate in this type of service. I'm not trolling, I simply really do not see the appeal. If I wanted to keep a record of my life, I'd be much more likely to keep a private journal.

Re:I don't understand... (5, Insightful)

Aeiri (713218) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086234)

For me, I think (if I ever actually start doing it), I think it would be a good place to have my bookmarks. I don't care about the sharing, I just use a lot of computers and would like to be able to remember all those sites that I forget on a daily basis.

Re:I don't understand... (3, Funny)

T-Ranger (10520) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086239)

Man, I agree with you 100%. Do you have a record of your thoughts somehwere so I can read more and devote my life to the Church of Icarus?

Re:I don't understand... (0)

The Amazing Fish Boy (863897) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086344)

...devote my life to the Church of Icarus

Pfft. That church will burn up and fall down just like all the other minor churches. That is if it even takes off in the first place.

Re:I don't understand... (4, Funny)

prockcore (543967) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086410)

Do you have a record of your thoughts somehwere so I can read more and devote my life to the Church of Icarus?

He had them, but they got burned up by the sun.

Re:I don't understand... (1)

xoboots (683791) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086496)

Icculus wrote the book and it is Errand Wolfe who now has the Helping Friendly Book and good luck getting it from him as he's captured the Famous Mockingbird and is ruling Gamedhendge with an iron fist.


The Man Who Stepped into Yesterday [phish.net]

Re:I don't understand... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086544)

I think the comment title says it all.

Re:I don't understand... (2, Insightful)

Dancin_Santa (265275) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086255)

I think it is more like a MUD or a MOO except played out in a completely different format. What it has in common is that features can be added by participants with relative ease and everyone benefits if they wish to use those features.

Obviously it lacks the dungeon crawling and killing people, but it still retains much of the social interaction. And as a benefit, it emphasizes socially beneficial activities such as sharing and openness rather than grouping and attacking.

It's a bad analogy because the two things being compared are fairly dissimilar, however this kind of "Social bookmarking" is very new and innovative without precedent.

Whether it can turn up something good is another story, but as far as a technology goes, it is pretty neat.

Re:I don't understand... (4, Interesting)

The Amazing Fish Boy (863897) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086259)

Blogs are of some interest to me because I get to see (somewhat) how people's thought processes work that are different from my friends'. (Friends think more or lesslike their friends.) I find them oddly englightening, but of course I don't mean the "I hate my mom I hate my dad I'm gonna cut myself but not die" kind of blogs, but ones that provde actual ideas I wouldn't otherwise hear. Funny blogs or tech related blogs are also interesting.

Re:I don't understand... (4, Insightful)

nmoog (701216) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086260)

I mostly mostly agree with you on this one... 99.9% of all blogs (and indeed anything people "share") are gunna be crap. But it does mean that over time the good stuff floats to the top. Every webdesign blog I go to has a link to alistapart. It becomes easy to find the good stuff.

And all the other stuff just sits there not harming anyone. And its good that people write stuff, rather than spending that half hour watching tv, or doing something useful... Its good to work out your brain even if no one in the world is interested! (heres my brain workout [webeisteddfod.com] :)

Re:I don't understand... (4, Funny)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086567)

Actually, with crap, the shitty stuff floats to the top. The muck drops to the bottom. The rest is piss poor quality.

Re:I don't understand... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086285)

I simply really do not see the appeal.

The internet is a big place but sometimes it is difficult to find the cool stuff. I would use this service in the same manner that I use boingboing and memepool, to find the cool and interesting stuff buried in the web. Stuff that I might not stumble upon on my own. That is one of the many things that a service like this offers.

Re:I don't understand... (5, Informative)

killjoe (766577) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086308)

I don't know about blogging but I love delicious. First of all with the foxylicious plug in to firefox I can have access to my bookmarks anywhere. Secondly I always find facinating things people have bookmarked. Sometimes I look up one of my own categories, other times I just type in a random word and see what people thought was valuable enough to bookmark.

If you haven't used foxylicous then you are not taking full advantage of delicious.

Re:I don't understand... (4, Funny)

Pseudonym (62607) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086417)

First of all with the foxylicious plug in to firefox I can have access to my bookmarks anywhere.

Admit it: You just wanted to use the word "foxylicious" in a slashdot thread.

If I ever write a web browser, it's going to be called "boot".

then allow me to explain... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086319)

on the topic of social bookmarking, there are two uses:
1. as one person already mentioned, you can have access to all your bookmarks when you're away from your machine -- without having to carry any removable media with you.
2. since they're categorized, you can find new links to pages on your topic of interest -- links that have been handpicked by humans. it's like an intelligent filter for search engines.

Re:I don't understand... (4, Insightful)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086321)

..yet you are on slashdot which is basically a combination of blogging, bookmark sharing and crying for attention.

your comments form a blog of sorts. i'm nearing 5000 mostly useless posts yet some people have found a quite good amount of them insightful, informative and so on.. even some that are funny! some aspects of the blogging community is just re-inventing slashdot(in a distributed uncontrolled way that mostly is a mess of people rambling about meme of the week).

personal blogs tend to be boring. most people have boring lifes, but don't want to admit it.

Re:I don't understand... (2, Insightful)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086593)


your comments form a blog of sorts.


It also forms a forum of sorts. But people don't use that word, forum, because it isn't the hip word. The hip word is blog today.

Blogging...posting on /. ... it's a slippery slope (4, Insightful)

michaeldot (751590) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086329)

Maybe it's just me, that's a possibility, but I don't understand people's fascination with these kinds of services. Blogging, bookmark sharing, it all seems to me like a cry for attention from other people.

By posting here & now you're letting us know your opinion. We read it because we're interested in comparing your views to ours, learning something you know that we don't.

Bloggers are just doing that too, letting anyone interested know what they think or have learnt. Maybe on a more regular basis, in a more defined structure, but it's essentially the same thing.

Re:I don't understand... (5, Insightful)

earthbound kid (859282) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086338)

We live in an age of social anomie. It's no wonder that people will do whatever is necessary to gain some recognition from the world. With shared values and public authority crumbling, people are increasingly isolated from those around them. Where once everyone in the village had a shared set of priorities, based on their shared social status, today, we are too fragmented to be able to really connect to people-- even people close to us.

There is a positive side to all this though. Though we're all so isolated from our immediate neighbors, technology allows us to form virtual communities with those who have common interests. Look at open source software or Wikipedia-- most contributors are drawn in at first by the product, but eventually become members of a community. Firefox is a fine browser, but without colorful personalities behind it like Blake and Hyatt, it would never have taken off so quickly. People identify with the leaders, feel like they have a common bond, and interact that way. Even really small and silly niches, like Mac product rumors, can spawn a community.

You have to be aware of some of this yourself though. Why post on slashdot at all, if not for the vague feeling that you're connecting with other human beings? We all long for connections, and being denied by our physical community, build virtual ones instead.

It's as simple as that.

Re:I don't understand... (5, Insightful)

Frodo Crockett (861942) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086349)

Del.icio.us isn't just about sharing bookmarks, it's about having all your bookmarks in one place. Use del.icio.us, and you'll never have to sync bookmarks between different browers, OSes, or machines again.

I find it quite useful to see what other people have bookmarked using the same tag. In fact, it's kind of like a human-filtered Google search. Why wade through pages of questionable search results when I can check del.icio.us and see what sites people looking for the same thing thought were worth visiting?

Also, I think your comparison to blogs is unfair. Blogs are the modern equivalent of a crappy Geocities website. Del.icio.us has more in common with Wikipedia than blogs.

Re:I don't understand... (1)

dr.badass (25287) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086396)

I think you're looking too much at what other people are doing rather than what you might do with it.

I use the living fuck out of del.icio.us, and I very, very, rarely do anything "social" with it. It just happens to be a fantastic way to manage bookmarks. It makes no difference to me that they're public.

Likewise, if you think of blogging as "keeping a record of your life", and you feel like you have a boring life, then yeah, don't bother (too many people do). Some people have exciting lives, or boring lives they write about well, write about something other than their own life, or write well about something incredibly intreresting but then occasionally post pictures of their cat.

The reason these things get so much attention is that people are doing many different things with them.

Re:I don't understand... (1)

IntelliTubbie (29947) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086469)

If I wanted to keep a record of my life, I'd be much more likely to keep a private journal.

So you rapidly posted that opinion to a high-traffic blog/message board? God, I wish I could give this +1, Irony ... ;-)

Cheers,
IT

Re:I don't understand... (2, Informative)

JanneM (7445) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086560)

The point of blogging depends entirely on your desired audience. You go all the way from people fishing for as wide an audience as possible, to a blog most like a private journal, except it's sort-of public as a way to solicit feedback.

You can have blogs aiming for your chess/vintage car /BDSM-club, for other developers in your company, for your family or whatever. I write a blog, and my targeted audience is my family and my friends; in effect, it's a substitute for occasional group emails. If somebody else happens to stumble onto it they are welcome to read it, but it'll probably be pretty boring for them. That's ok - they aren't the target audience after all.

Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s? (4, Insightful)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086217)

I haven't RTFA because letting the entire world know what my bookmarks are, without an option to let the world know what SOME of my bookmarks are doesn't appeal to me.

Now I could modify delirious to have this feature but I don't have enough time and incentive. But something I do find odd are the names. I've always thought the del.ici.ous name was odd, but this is ridiculous. Is there something in social bookmarking that requires things to have periods in the middle of everything? Or is delirious just copying delicious?

Re:Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s? (5, Funny)

Aeiri (713218) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086250)

Or is delirious just copying delicious?

No, they just happened to come up with the same idea for the same site, with very similar names.

Get used to it: (4, Funny)

Bingo Foo (179380) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086261)

# grep us$ /usr/share/dict/words | wc -l
8939
And for the truly barb.aro.us:
# grep .................us$ /usr/share/dict/words
autobasidiomycetous
calcar eoargillaceous
cephalothoracopagus
chlamydobacte riaceous
hydrochlorplatinous
hypocraterimorphous
intraparenchymatous
Macracanthorhynchus
membra nocartilaginous
palaeodictyopterous
parachromato phorous
philosophicoreligious
phycochromophyceou s
platybrachycephalous
platydolichocephalous
pr otobasidiomycetous
pseudocartilaginous
pseudoery sipelatous
pseudomonocotyledonous
pseudoparenchy matous
saccharofarinaceous
saccharomucilaginous
saccharomycetaceous
scientificoreligious
scrofu lotuberculous
steganophthalmatous

Re:Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s? (1)

trumpetboy8282 (871271) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086280)

I haven't RTFA because letting the entire world know what my bookmarks are, without an option to let the world know what SOME of my bookmarks are doesn't appeal to me.

Social bookmarking services don't automatically put all your bookmarks online. You have to manually enter each and every bookmark you want to share. This is an option to limit what the whole world sees. You decide what you want to share; these services just facilitate sharing.

Re:Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s? (1)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086363)



Social bookmarking services don't automatically put all your bookmarks online.


Sorry, I meant I want to put all my bookmarks in the service, but only have certain ones shown to everyone. I see no such feature on delirious.

Re:Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s? (1)

trumpetboy8282 (871271) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086435)

And that's exactly the beauty of open-source: you don't see something you want, so you just go into the source and add it. You can then send the changes to Ricardo Signes (creator of Rubric) or to the webmaster of de.lirio.us

Re:Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086563)

or you could just use d.e.l.i.c.i.o.u.s which already has the feature.

Re:Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s? (4, Funny)

millette (56354) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086300)

you mean it's ridi.cul.us ?

Re:Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s? (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086582)

y.ou s.ure.ly mea.nt ridi.culo.us!

Re:Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s? (1)

DarkHelmet (120004) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086311)

i.don.tkno.w.i.alwa.ys.rea.d.thedo.main.s.aso.ne.w ord.

Re:Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s? (1)

dr.badass (25287) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086446)

Is there something in social bookmarking that requires things to have periods in the middle of everything? Or is delirious just copying delicious?

The guy that runs del.icio.us just has a thing for domains like that. He also owns burri.to [burri.to] , and a few others along such lines.

Since del.icio.us got popular, people have been in a kind of mad dash to make clever riffs on the name.

I haven't RTFA because letting the entire world know what my bookmarks are, without an option to let the world know what SOME of my bookmarks are doesn't appeal to me.

I know this is a very common feeling, but I have a hard time understanding why. Could someone give some examples of bookmarks you would want to be private?

Re:Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086522)

I know this is a very common feeling, but I have a hard time understanding why. Could someone give some examples of bookmarks you would want to be private?
www.chickswithdic... Hey, wait a minute! No trick questions!

Re:Wh.ats u.p wi.th th.e na.me.s? (2, Informative)

Pollardito (781263) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086556)

Could someone give some examples of bookmarks you would want to be private?

* intranet links
* development websites
* your bank's website (esp. if they can see this bookmark in combination with others that might be used to build an identity trail)
* goatse

but i can't imagine posting bookmarks to a third-party website unless i was generally ok if for some reason they became public (accidental or otherwise), so maybe i'm agreeing with you.

Internet Explorer (5, Funny)

xixax (44677) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086227)

Big deal, my copy of Internet Explorer has been sharing my bookmarks with everyone for years. It can even share my passswords, cookies and credit card numbers!

Yah SB! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086233)

Social bookmarking helps make a better super-nerd.

Re:Yah SB! (1)

kwoo (641864) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086366)

Social bookmarking helps make a better super-nerd.

You betcha. If I can't find information on Google, I often check del.icio.us to see if anyone has stumbled on anything.

The other thing I find interesting is finding the number of people who have a bookmark in common with me. There are quite a few pages I have bookmarked (user kjw) that I consider to be obvious and easy to find, but few people (if anyone else) have them bookmarked.

open source under what license (1)

ghee22 (781277) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086235)

code for your website and even Rubric (the engine) is not under a known license. author please clear this up.

some info... (3, Interesting)

phUnBalanced (128965) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086325)

From the perl module [cpan.org] :
"This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the same terms as Perl itself."

Confusing (2, Interesting)

sbszine (633428) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086246)

Hmmm. The de.lirio.us [lirio.us] website is almost identical to the del.icio.us [del.icio.us] website. I know imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all, but you'll probably want to change your site design...

Re:Confusing (1)

daeley (126313) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086421)

Hmmm. The de.lirio.us [lirio.us] website is almost identical to the del.icio.us [del.icio.us] website. I know imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all, but you'll probably want to change your site design...

I think the point is that since it's open source, now someone can.

Re:Confusing (4, Funny)

dr.badass (25287) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086488)

Hmmm. The de.lirio.us website is almost identical to the del.icio.us website. I know imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all, but you'll probably want to change your site design...


What's really amazing is that in the course of copying it, the few things they changed all managed to make it look worse. I guess that's how you tell it's open source.

Social Bookmarking Service? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086252)

I don't have any friends, you insensitive clod!

Rubric (2, Informative)

phUnBalanced (128965) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086272)

Here's a direct link to the software on CPAN:

http://search.cpan.org/~rjbs/Rubric-0.06/ [cpan.org]

Re:Rubric (2, Informative)

phUnBalanced (128965) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086303)

The software is in no way affiliated directly with the project, only in that they use the software.

I'm friends with Rubric's author, but not associated with either project otherwise.

There's an installation of rubric [wikalong.org] also setup to work with wikalong [wikalong.org] , a Firefox extension.

Great news today for del.icio.us ! (4, Interesting)

millette (56354) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086286)

Joshua Schachter had some great news today [del.icio.us] , quitting his day job and now committed full time to del.icio.us, with the help of some outside investment.

rid.icu.lo.us (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086301)

I'm just delirious...

I stumbled upon this (2, Informative)

nastyphil (111738) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086305)

www.stumbleupon.com a couple of years ago. Sites are submitted, categorised and then can be rated. Using a (Moz or IE) toolbar you can stumble through the sites according to a mixture of preferences.

It to me epitomises the "surfing" part of the web.

You guys might also want to check this out (0)

klatty (871061) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086313)

I have a site here http://www.links.klatt.us/ [klatt.us] that I put up recently that allows you to save your own bookmarks.

You can create categories and also set links to be private or public, hence sharing them or keeping them public.

One neat feature (especially for you Firefox users), is the RSS feed, if you go to my own person public page: http://links.klatt.us/public.php?user=klatt and look in the lower right hand corner, you'll see an RSS feed. Add that to your "live bookmarks" in Firefox and your links will be updated on all your machines anytime you add them to the website.

If you register a user and add your links you could do this as well.

The next features I will implement will be importing and exporting of bookmarks from the major browsers.

I submitted this to sourceforge but never heard anything back. Anyone ever have this happen?

If anyone wants to help code, or just give me suggestions let me know!

Thanks,

Frank

Re:You guys might also want to check this out (1)

jrexilius (520067) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086393)

I had thought about doing the same thing for a while to keep access to common bookmarks from all my various desktops. There is a Mozilla extension that can use FTP to store bookmarks on a central server which would be a good base to hack for an HTTPS POST for dealing with Proxies in copr environs. As to sourceforge.. eh, isn't that where BSD went to die?,.. Seriously I would just host it yourself and just ref it on freshmeat.

Bookmarks Synchronizer - Firefox Extension (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086505)

Bookmarks Synchronizer 1.0.1 [mozilla.org]
Bookmarks Synchronizer is a Mozilla Firefox extension that let you connect to an FTP/WebDAV server and synchronize your bookmarks that are stored in an XML file. Setup is easy; just write in your FTP/WebDAV server address, username, password and a name for the XML file

HOWTO Install and configure Bookmarks Synchronizer in client and on server [rollis.ch]

Re:You guys might also want to check this out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086547)

I saw something about a webpage to store bookmarks a few weeks ago on slashdot and thought it would be a cool idea. So of course I went off any built one myself :) I learnt quite a bit of php/css/javascript in the process since I hadn't done anything like that for 4 or 5 years.

Its very simplistic with favourites always show and collapsable (via javascript) folder/subfolders containing the bookmarks.

At the moment it doesn't do any of the social/public bookmarking things and probably never will - its mainly for my personal use. Because of that I also plan to include the ability to store/generate username/passwords to be stored with bookmarks also.

Currently I use a seperate program to store passwords for various websites I frequent and its a pain trying to get them onto another computer. (hence the AC here, i have nfi what my slashdot username is let-alone my password :) ) Storing user/pass info with the bookmarks seems like a logical next step for me, you might want to add something like that also.

I also like the fact that I can now do searches on my bookmarks! If I want to find that link about the automatic lego transmission I saved a month ago and have since forgotten what sub-folder its hidden in... no problems now. :)

I thought of doing some exporting thing, but I can just save the resulting page as HTML and it functions fine as long as I don't want to edit anything.

What's the point? (1)

dangitman (862676) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086323)

This is all well and good, but what advantages does it offer the user? I have a hard enough time managing my tens of thousands of bookmarks. Now I'm supposed to sift through everyone else's bookmarks, too?

You may as well just dump Google into my bookmarks, for all the good that would do. I thought the idea of bookmarking was to have a specific, limited set of pointers that are of personal utility, not to replicate "portals".

What's needed is anti-social bookmarking - like a robot that goes through my links and eliminates the ones that aren't necessary. Or a search-engine that searches the content of my bookmarks, and my bookmarks only. It would be even better if it could go out onto the web and actually eliminate websites that I find to be junk, or a waste of bandwidth, to de-clutter my surfing experience.

Come to think of it, this is NOT all well and good. Social bookmarking sounds almost as evil as blogging.

Re:What's the point? (1)

jrexilius (520067) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086441)

A while back when there was discussion about future features for mozilla I suggested something along those lines (I am a bookmark packrat also).

I think a simple extension that one could hack would be to sporadically check the bookmarks to at least see if they still exist and purge the 404's. They have a function like this now but you have to dig in and configure it for each bookmark individually (kinda defeats the purpose).

Another thought I had, along the search lines, was to add the meta descriptors to the bookmark record to help for searches.

Another google specific function could be to actually use google from the search bar but have it restrict/filter the search to sites in your bookmarks.

Well, there are a lot of ways outside of stupid blogs and lonely-heart clubs for improving bookmarks..

How nice of you... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086333)

Nice of you to fuck up the domain name of your competitor in the story. I'm sure that was just an accident.

I stumbled upon this (0, Redundant)

nastyphil (111738) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086336)

site a couple of years ago.

www.stumbleupon.com

Pages are submitted, ranked and then made available so that using a (moz or IE) toolbar you can stumble through a randomish assortment of pages according to interest and content.

To me it epitomises the "surfing" part of the web!

Re:I stumbled upon this (2, Interesting)

trumpetboy8282 (871271) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086395)

The main difference between StumbleUpon and social bookmarking is that social bookmarking forces you to sort through everything to find what you want while StumbleUpon suggests sites related to interests you define. But then again, one could argue against StumbleUpon by saying that you never know where you may go. Still, I use StumbleUpon more because I find it more convenient.

Re:I stumbled upon this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086584)

i stumbled upon your mom's pussy a couple years ago.


By "stumbled upon" I mean "violated with my massive cock" and by "pussy" i mean "vagina"

Some things just don't need to be open-sourced (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086339)

What will anyone learn from de.lirio.us being open-source? And who would want to modify it and host their own when the whole point is to have a centralized repository of bookmarks?

Open-source is great for things like libraries that people would like to improve and modify for their own purposes, and for things like operating systems or certain applications where everyone would benefit from having access to the source and regular updates for "free". But using it for web applications or even things like games (not game engines, games) doesn't seem to offer any benefit.

Anti competitive or what? (4, Funny)

nmoog (701216) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086348)

I launched an open source social bookmarking competitor to delicio.us
Nice work, directing people who want to assess your competition to a domain squatting service... I like yours heaps better.

Tried it! (1)

Masq666 (861213) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086350)

Well i tried this thing and it works, but i realy cant figure out if this is usefull or not. Sure it can be, but not to me. But if it wasn't for this news post i'd never have found this site and never tried it, so thanks to the poster for enlightening me and also thanks to the developer.

waste.of.time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086362)

how many places do i need to see boingboing referrers? pointers to lawrence lessig's log? blah blah. these sites cater to the bored and single.

Re:waste.of.time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086388)

as opposed to... excited and married? what the fuck?

I thought he said BOOKMAKING (0, Offtopic)

baomike (143457) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086406)

Too late at night, must sleep.

Social Bookmarking or... (5, Interesting)

Admiral Justin (628358) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086422)

Is it just me, or can you see spammers hitting these kinda sites soon....

Granted, not everyone would be upset with a flood of porn links... *cough*

But, like any thing that may at some time be 'good', it will go bad.

Re:Social Bookmarking or... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086516)

Is it just me, or can you see spammers hitting these kinda sites soon....

It's already happened. Sometimes it's an obvious script-kiddie type of thing, sometimes it's some idiot hyping his lameass blog, and sometimes it's astroturfing "This is the best web-host ever!!!"

Mostly, though, it's not a problem.

But, like any thing that may at some time be 'good', it will go bad.

People still use email, blogs, and IM, dispite all of them being choked to the gills with spam.

Is open-source a significant advantage here? (3, Interesting)

MostlyHarmless (75501) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086432)

... calm down, this isn't quite the heresy the subject line indicates it to be ;-).

Having an open-source implementation of social bookmarking similar to del.icio.us [del.icio.us] is nifty, and kudos to the author for writing it. But what does the user actually gain by switching? Del.icio.us already has a web-service API (complete with Python wrapper [hackdiary.com] ) and RSS feeds of its data. The above link shows that the development process is already pretty open -- follow it and the links from there to see what people have done with del.icio.us.

Users of the new service will not be able to take advantage of the network effect that del.icio.us already has going for it; given that we're talking about social sites, this is significant. So, to summarize, yay source code, but what is the benefit here?

Re:Is open-source a significant advantage here? (1)

civilizedINTENSITY (45686) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086579)

Well, what if a group of people want their own private shared bookmarks with god only knows what modifications? Maybe for an intranet? Parents who only want to allow their children net access from a rather large set of bookmarks? This source code is their start.

In terms of your statement that "Users of the new service will not be able to take advantage of the network effect that del.icio.us already has going for it", you remind me of the quote about howt 5 computers should be enough for the US. Why would we want a dozen computers, for heaven's sake? I know I'm still wondering why we need more than a dozen different athletic shoes, let alone so many brands that each have way more than a dozen types, each.

SQLite? (1)

MrSpiff (515611) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086463)

you might want to reconsider the choice of database for a read/write application like this.

-------------------
Software error:

Error executing run mode 'newuser': Can't insert new Rubric::User: DBD::SQLite::st execute failed: database is locked(5) at dbdimp.c line 401 [for Statement "INSERT INTO users (email, created, password, verification_code, username)
VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?, ?)
"] at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/DBIx/Contextu alFetch.pm line 51.
at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/Rubric/WebApp .pm line 542
at /var/www/vhosts/Rubric-0.06/rubric line 4
-------------------

How do you use it? (3, Informative)

PhracturedBlue (224393) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086474)

Ok, call me clueless, I've never heard of social-bookmarking, but I faithfully clicked on the link, and it looks like a very cool idea. It could make it easy to find specialty sites. As someone else said, it's like a human-filtered google. But one thing seems to be missing....How do you search?
I'd like to see a list of ALL availiable tags. Or search for tags associated with one of my bookmarks (to try to find similar sites) But I see no such capability. Do you need to login to use it? I looked at del.icio.us, and at least there it appears I may get additional functionality by registering, but I see no point in that. Why force me to register in order to search other people's bookmarks (assuming I need to)?
Or is this is meant by 'cook up additional tools'? Forgive me, but the site layout is atrocious, and it really seems like there is very limited capability to me.

Oh well. Maybe I'm bitching about nothing. Id so, please show me.

You might want to check out maple (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086478)

Maple is a bookmarks manager that stores your bookmarks online. It is integrated into Firefox so bookmarking is fast and easy. You can categorize your bookmarks by assigning them tags. This makes it easy to find and access your bookmarks with the built-in search engine.

http://maple.nu/ [maple.nu]

I'm a fan of Furl (3, Interesting)

MSBob (307239) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086480)

I'm a fan of furl.net not because of its bookmark sharing but mostly because of the bookmark search capability. I tend to bookmark lots of pages (hundreds per year) and no built in bookmarking is sufficient.

The main reason why those services are so useful is bookmark searching. They allow you (at least furl does) to search for keywords within the pages you bookmarked effectively turning it into your "personal Google". It changes the way you work with bookmarks.

As for sharing bookmarks, furl gives you a preference option where you can have all your bookmarks private by default if it bothers you when they are shared.

Yahoo!!?? Anyone? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086489)

Isn't this how Yahoo started? For me, at least, Yahoo (the catalog) was like bookmark repository. If I wanted bookmarks to some topic, I searched within Yahoo. Search engines are different because you end up with a bunch of stuff that may be completely inappropriate to the category you're interested in.

What's conceptually new here?

the power of blogs! (1)

SweetAndSourJesus (555410) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086527)

See, before it was people bookmarking personal sites where some goofball had pictures of their cat and other useless content.

Now it's people bookmarking weblogs which almost exclusively deal with the subject of weblogging.

This is progress.

A project is only as good as its accessibility (4, Insightful)

humankind (704050) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086512)

This is a classic example of what may be a valuable application without an accessible interface. You may have some good ideas but the initial presentation of the system and its value and functionality is somewhat uncertain. You can have the best idea in the world, but if you can't present this idea in what's typically coined as an "elevator pitch" you will fail.

I hit the site. I couldn't tell what to do. I generally like the idea of ranking and sharing bookmarks but I couldn't tell how your technology or system had anything to do with it.

Someone else will come along. Maybe with a less capable system, but with a better way of translating and explaining the value of such an application and they will trump you. Sometimes if you're too engrossed into the technical details you can screw yourself over. Either you will adapt quickly, or someone else will take your idea and make it more marketable, but what I see right now won't work.

Why social bookmarking is kinda cool (3, Informative)

IvyMike (178408) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086520)

Several comments above say, "I don't get why it's cool." Here's my take on it:
1: You can access your bookmarks from many computers
2: You can check out the "popular links" on the site to see what's probably going to show up on slashdot tomorrow.
3: You can tag bookmarks with multiple tags, so they can be accessed from multiple folders.
4: Great way to share cool links with a group of friends.
5: Firefox RSS feed of your own bookmarks = totally slick

And now, social bookmarking problems. (4, Informative)

IvyMike (178408) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086533)

Of course, it does have problems, too.
1: When the social bookmarking goes down, you've effectively got no bookmarks. (Foxylicious helps, but it can still be annoying when the site goes down.)
2: You can leak information about yourself, and if the URL contains any secret information, you're really screwed.
3: There's no way easy way save a hierarchy and have it integrate into the browser in a slick way.
4: It gets spammed every so often (people trying to get their links onto the popular page, for example)

woohoo! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086526)

this is great news! I hope to add some new functionality for wife sharing. Unfortunately, it will probably take some testing to iron out the bugs, so if you come home tomorrow night and find me dicking your wife (and/or daughter), rest assured that I'm doing it for the community.


Score one for FOSS!!!

Re:woohoo! (1)

Frodo Crockett (861942) | more than 9 years ago | (#12086577)

this is great news! I hope to add some new functionality for wife sharing. Unfortunately, it will probably take some testing to iron out the bugs, so if you come home tomorrow night and find me dicking your wife (and/or daughter), rest assured that I'm doing it for the community.

Score one for FOSS!!!


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foo bar baz quux (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086530)

maps+2@picosecond.org

quick recap of events (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12086548)

So this guy took code someone else wrote (Rubric), and set it up on a domain confusingly similar to del.icio.us [del.icio.us] ? Why, just to be a dick? Should I set up goolge, the open sourced competitor to google?
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